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How's this ~£550 gaming build (budget ~£550)?

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April 16, 2013 2:39:05 PM

My cousin has been saving up for a new computer for a while and he's asked me to find a pre-built one for him, but I've gone the route of build-your-own and I'm going to walk him through it. I'm sure he'll be pleasantly surprised by how simple it is. His budget is around ~£550 and the parts I've picked out for it are:

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PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/R8tG
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/R8tG/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/R8tG/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i3-2120 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor (£88.74 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS7000C-Cu Ball Bearing CPU Cooler (£15.18 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: MSI H61M-P31 (G3) Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£34.06 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£32.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 320GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£32.82 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card (£88.00 @ Ebuyer)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus USB-N10 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter (£9.49 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£29.38 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: XFX 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£34.99 @ Maplin Electronics)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£11.13 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£68.39 @ Aria PC)
Monitor: Hannspree HE225DPB 21.5" Monitor (£89.00 @ Amazon UK)
Keyboard: Logitech K120 Wired Standard Keyboard (£14.99 @ Amazon UK)
Mouse: Gigabyte GM-M6800 Wired Optical Mouse (£8.74 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £557.90


Can I get anything with equal or better performance to replace anything on here and is this going to give my cousin medium-high performance on most games? He plays everything from intensive shooters like Battlefield to humble indies like VVVVV. Are there any incompatibilities that PCPartPicker missed?

Edit: I changed the country filter at the top to US out of curiosity and the total comes to almost £100 cheaper. A bit confusing, I wish I could just tell it to look absolutely anywhere and pick things that can be delivered. Should I be doing my search with the US country filter and then ordering from wherever I find that's cheapest? The US country filter seems to have quite a few more parts in its parts bank as well.
a b 4 Gaming
April 17, 2013 5:41:49 AM

No need for the cooler
Board with Wifi or use Ethernet
More storage less ram
i3 3220 + H77
Windows 8
Logitech wired combo
April 17, 2013 5:47:12 AM

Thanks for the response :)  I'll check them all out. I'd like some confirmation from someone else that this is the way to go, especially with the Windows 8 on a gaming system as I have absolutely no experience with it.
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a b 4 Gaming
April 17, 2013 5:58:11 AM

If you want a bit more performance at a slightly higher price

Then go for a GTX 660 Ti SLI confguration. They'll easily power through those games.

Plus, you'll perhaps get a free game with it: Metro Last Light.

There's some really good deals on various AMD cards though, where you can get multiple

Titles, along with the GPU.



For added future-proofing, add a Core i5 to the mix as well. A K-series, because then it's overclockable.

A good power supply now, will also add some easy upgradeability for later.


You could well also forfeit the optical drive, in favor of just relying on USB.

Unless of course he needs it and doesn't rely on buying games digitally.



Finally, if he has access to a wired, as opposed to a wireless connection

You can also forfeit the Wi-Fi card. He's a gamer and that usually entails

Playing online. Well, even with good Wi-Fi, you won't achieve the same kind of

Speed and reliability, as you do with wired.



EDIT: Windows 8 isn't required, but it works fine for games. It supports Directx 11

While I believe Windows 7 doesn't. It isn't that big of an issue however.

Windows 7 will however "only" be supported by MS until 2020.

Then, just like with Windows XP on April 8th 2014, they'll stop providing updates

as well as technical support.
April 17, 2013 6:20:40 AM

Ok here's my build for you:

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/RgEz
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/RgEz/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/RgEz/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (£101.94 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£24.49 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£32.91 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£32.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Hitachi 500GB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card (£156.50 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£29.38 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£11.13 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£68.39 @ Aria PC)
Monitor: AOC E2243FW 21.5" Monitor (£104.94 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £602.66
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-17 14:15 BST+0100)

Key Points:

-got you a much better gpu

-Don't get a 660ti, far too over priced (£200ish), if you actually have spare cash, get the 7870XT, they are beastly cards (perform nearly as well as 7950s/670s).

-swapped the processor for a better one (you really should be using an i3 for gaming, those 2 cores are going to become a huge bottleneck over the coming days)

-ditch the cooler if you want it cheaper, get smaller storage also..

-if you still need it cheaper (bump the processor down to a FX 4000 series processor)

-got you a better monitor

-ditched a few of the extra's like wifi card, e.t.c add them on if you really need them (im just giving a basic build)

-won't be able to overclock, but you guys don't sound like your that keen on that anyways
April 17, 2013 6:34:39 AM

@allanitomwesh
Got rid of the cooler, boards with wifi seem to be too expensive, changed down to 4GB with 1TB HDD (is 4GB enough memory? Will that get outdated pretty fast?), I've changed to the i3-3220 and have been told I'll need to update BIOS on the mobo which is fine, but I assume by H77 you mean a H77 mobo and all the ones I can find are too pricey, sticking with Windows 7 and I've changed the keyboard/mouse combo.

@X79
Honestly adding more expense to this would be nice but it isn't really an option. Going for better GPU, CPU and PSU like that adds a bit too much I think, although I'll up the PSU to a 500W because that seems like a good idea. No access to wired internet.

New parts list:
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PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/RgKw
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/RgKw/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/RgKw/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor (£89.94 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI H61M-P31 (G3) Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£34.06 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Crucial 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£20.03 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£44.14 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card (£88.00 @ Ebuyer)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus USB-N10 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter (£9.49 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£29.38 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£49.99 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£11.13 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£68.39 @ Aria PC)
Monitor: Hannspree HE225DPB 21.5" Monitor (£89.00 @ Amazon UK)
Keyboard: Logitech MK120 Wired Slim Keyboard w/Optical Mouse (£17.70 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £551.25


This seems inferior to me for pretty much the same price but maybe I'm wrong.

@krthush V2
Thanks, I'll look at it and reply to you later. Got some uni work I should really be doing instead of this.
April 17, 2013 6:51:05 AM

go with krthush V2 build fx 6300 will be better than i3-3220 and 7770 at 1080p is not a good choice at least get a 7790
April 17, 2013 7:10:19 AM

looks good, might go with an SSD though
April 17, 2013 7:11:42 AM

That is a pretty impressive build. It's really surprising seeing a 6-core 3.5Ghz CPU and that GPU for not a whole lot more than what I had. I might just buy him one of these parts myself to take the load off his budget a bit.
I'll work with that build a bit more budget-wise and if nobody's got anything else to add then I guess that's what I'm going for, thanks :) 
And nah, I don't do it and he probably hasn't event heard of OCing.
April 17, 2013 7:14:43 AM

ssd will affect loading and booting time but not the gaming performance(2-3fps max)
a b 4 Gaming
April 17, 2013 8:06:10 AM

Very good AMD build by krthush V2 .
If priority is gaming I'd go with that and change a few things.
Put the 450W/550W version of the XFX in it.Beastly and better.
I insist on a 7200 hard disk like WD Blue or Seagate Barracuda.
There's savings to be made in 1GB 7850. Only hit is tripple monitor gaming.
It is a good monitor
Don't game wirelessly,meaning no wireless mice/keyboards, no wifi if avoidable. Reason is simple,middle of a game,connection drops. Middle of a game, no charge. Do it old school.
Be aware the board only supports one graphics card,you might want to spend more there
...
I don't recommend the motherboard update path either,if you can't get a H77 or B75 mATX best leave it at that.
April 17, 2013 8:41:11 AM

Okay so with all the advice it's turned into this:
Quote:

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/RhJI
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/RhJI/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/RhJI/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (£101.94 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£32.91 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£32.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card (£124.98 @ Ebuyer)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN781ND 802.11b/g/n PCI Wi-Fi Adapter (£8.08 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£29.38 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: XFX 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£34.99 @ Maplin Electronics)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£11.13 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£68.39 @ Aria PC)
Monitor: Hannspree HL249DPB 23.6" Monitor (£104.50 @ Ebuyer)
Keyboard: Logitech MK120 Wired Slim Keyboard w/Optical Mouse (£17.70 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £566.99


I realised I already have more than one spare HDD he can have, got the lower memory GPU and got the XFX 450W PSU. I changed the monitor for in-built speakers and bigger size as well, hopefully it's still alright.
April 17, 2013 8:42:17 AM

Glad that people like the build :D .

Most of a stuff people have said is correct. I'll list a few more points:

-Yes mobo only support one graphics card, if you wanna upgrade later on its best to stick a mobo with more PCI-E ports, but be aware that will increase the price. So if its just a one time budget build stick to the current one.

-Technically speaking it is not 6-core, its 4ish cores (complicated) but its still a better CPU than i3s.

-Yeah its probably better to go with XFX psu's (550W is safer, since AMD stuff usually draws a lot of power, yet you will still be fine with a 450W if budget is constricting). n.b. I didn't list the XFX psu I sort of have a personal grudge against them after buying a graphics card from them >.>..

-Probs best to get the seagate 1tb barracuda if you want a better HDD its a very solid one.

-If you have money (around £80 extra) an ssd will be very good, you will get good boots and programs will load faster. (you can get Sandisk and Adata budget ssds)

-You can get a 1gb 7850, its safer to stick to 2gb though after view newer games vram usage. Here's a link to one:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/crysis_3_graphics_...
But again, if budget restricts you can bump down to a 1gb. I wouldn't advice on the 7790s atm, slightly too over priced, try sticking to the 7850s as much as pos.

-Ye I prefer my stuff to wireless, especially the mouse (fuk me when the mouse runs out of battery and its wireless >.>). If you insist, get a wireless keyboard, they last for ages on battery, but wired is just better imo for gaming DESKTOPS.

-Probably scrap the cooler if you live in fairly cool country

-you will need to add a wifi card methinks if you wanna use wireless internet-> bad idea, wired is better again :S, but if you have no option, get a wifi card then.
April 17, 2013 9:04:10 AM

Thanks, you've been super helpful. I'll get a better mobo then so he can have more room for upgrade and let him know about future stuff like SSDs he might want to think about. Unfortunately I'm told there's no way around wireless internet but he's not too bothered.
April 17, 2013 10:59:34 AM
a b 4 Gaming
April 17, 2013 11:46:59 AM

Best cases on a budget for me remain Antec One and Corsair 200R and perhaps Bitfenix Merc Alpha (requires you buy fans making it not so budget after all but is otherwise awesome,more mid high end with missing parts.Buying them slowly solves this) and for abit more the Xigmatek Midgard 2. I am biased to simpler looking more classic designs,you can reuse them longer.Don't let that stop you buying the CM HAF 912 +
MSI also have very feature rich AMD boards.
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