680 OC vs 7970 OC

[GMPoisoN]

I've read so much about how the 7970 outperforms the 680, then I come across this. Am I reading these wrong?

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2012-vga-gpgpu/13-Battlefield-3-DirectX-11-C-Extreme,Prix_fpricex350b99999,2969.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2012-vga-gpgpu/04-Metro-2033-DirectX-11-C-Extreme,Prix_fpricex350b99999,2942.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2012-vga-gpgpu/12-Starcraft-2-DirectX-11-C-Extreme,Prix_fpricex350b99999,2966.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2012-vga-gpgpu/11-DiRT-3-DirectX-11-C-Extreme,Prix_fpricex350b99999,2963.html

The 680 smacks the 7970 every time, is this information not the actual FPS or the game, or am I going crazy after all that I've read about the 7970 being superior!?!

Edit: Now I'm finding all of these benchmarks of BF3 (game I will mostly be playing) and the GTX 680 OC beats it every time! I'm only so surprised because for month up until now I was told the 7970 was better.

 

[ASHISH65]

actually hd 7970 ghz edition beats gtx 680

 

[GMPoisoN]

This one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125437

Heres another benchmark of a game I play a lot

http://hothardware.com/Reviews/Gigabyte-GeForce-GTX-680-Super-OverClock/?page=8

 

[GMPoisoN]

actually hd 7970 ghz edition beats gtx 680

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Even here, http://hothardware.com/Reviews/Gigabyte-GeForce-GTX-680-Super-OverClock/?page=8
the GTX 680 Super OC even beats the 7970 Matrix Plat in another popular game I play a lot.

 

[GMPoisoN]

actually hd 7970 ghz edition beats gtx 680

Even here, http://hothardware.com/Reviews/Gigabyte-GeForce-GTX-680-Super-OverClock/?page=8
the GTX 680 Super OC even beats the 7970 Matrix Plat in another popular game I play a lot.

 

[GMPoisoN]

If most of the benchmarks Im seeing where the GTX 680 wins, does that mean the extra power in your picture is coming grime something not gaming related, making it irrelevant? I'm not an Nvidea or radeon fanboy, I just want to know which is best haha

 

[bystander]

You also have to factor in a few things into those reviews.
-Resolution effects the outcome. Higher resolutions favor AMD, unless you crossfire, then its the opposite if factoring in runt frames.
-AA effects results. High levels of AA favor AMD, but if you stick with 4x MSAA, what most people use, Nvidia compares a lot better.
-Multi-GPU effects microstutter. This doesn't show up in most charts, you have to look at FCAT results to see AMD has a lot microstutter issues.
-Different games favor AMD and Nvidia.

One thing that I don't like about review sites is that they almost always choose the highest settings possible for playable results, rather than for ideal results. Of course what is ideal is different for different people, but when you do use what I'd consider ideal (80+ FPS, or at least 60+ FPS), then you use the best compromise of settings and Nvidia cards compare better.

 

[ASHISH65]

donot compare oc gtx 680 with hd 7970ghz.hd 7970ghz > gtx 680 @stock

 

[GMPoisoN]

You also have to factor in a few things into those reviews.
-Resolution effects the outcome. Higher resolutions favor AMD, unless you crossfire, then its the opposite if factoring in runt frames.
-AA effects results. High levels of AA favor AMD, but if you stick with 4x MSAA, what most people use, Nvidia compares a lot better.
-Multi-GPU effects microstutter. This doesn't show up in most charts, you have to look at FCAT results to see AMD has a lot microstutter issues.

-Different games favor AMD and Nvidia.
One thing that I don't like about review sites is that they almost always choose the highest settings possible for playable results, rather than for ideal results. Of course what is ideal is different for different people, but when you do use what I'd consider ideal (80+ FPS, or at least 60+ FPS), then you use the best compromise of settings and Nvidia cards compare better.

Right. I play 1 monitor, 1920 x 1080, 1 GPU, pretty standard, so I try and find benchmarks using those. The 7970 comes with 3 free games and the 680 only one. I've still got a month to decide, any other input would be appreciated!

 

[GMPoisoN]

donot compare oc gtx 680 with hd 7970ghz.hd 7970ghz > gtx 680 @stock

Well they're both around the same price range and performance. I plan on overclocking, so Im not comparing them at stock. Which OCs higher, I know on some 7970s not that high depending in the card, but on the 680 OC it says you can OC easily to 1200

 

[bystander]

You also have to factor in a few things into those reviews.
-Resolution effects the outcome. Higher resolutions favor AMD, unless you crossfire, then its the opposite if factoring in runt frames.
-AA effects results. High levels of AA favor AMD, but if you stick with 4x MSAA, what most people use, Nvidia compares a lot better.
-Multi-GPU effects microstutter. This doesn't show up in most charts, you have to look at FCAT results to see AMD has a lot microstutter issues.

-Different games favor AMD and Nvidia.
One thing that I don't like about review sites is that they almost always choose the highest settings possible for playable results, rather than for ideal results. Of course what is ideal is different for different people, but when you do use what I'd consider ideal (80+ FPS, or at least 60+ FPS), then you use the best compromise of settings and Nvidia cards compare better.

Right. I play 1 monitor, 1920 x 1080, 1 GPU, pretty standard, so I try and find benchmarks using those. The 7970 comes with 3 free games and the 680 only one. I've still got a month to decide, any other input would be appreciated!

If you do not plan to add a 2nd card down the road or plan to play in 3D, the 7970 is a good choice.

 

[GMPoisoN]

You also have to factor in a few things into those reviews.
-Resolution effects the outcome. Higher resolutions favor AMD, unless you crossfire, then its the opposite if factoring in runt frames.
-AA effects results. High levels of AA favor AMD, but if you stick with 4x MSAA, what most people use, Nvidia compares a lot better.
-Multi-GPU effects microstutter. This doesn't show up in most charts, you have to look at FCAT results to see AMD has a lot microstutter issues.

-Different games favor AMD and Nvidia.
One thing that I don't like about review sites is that they almost always choose the highest settings possible for playable results, rather than for ideal results. Of course what is ideal is different for different people, but when you do use what I'd consider ideal (80+ FPS, or at least 60+ FPS), then you use the best compromise of settings and Nvidia cards compare better.

Right. I play 1 monitor, 1920 x 1080, 1 GPU, pretty standard, so I try and find benchmarks using those. The 7970 comes with 3 free games and the 680 only one. I've still got a month to decide, any other input would be appreciated!

If you do not plan to add a 2nd card down the road or plan to play in 3D, the 7970 is a good choice.

What does the 7970 have to make it a better card if you just running one and not using 3D?

 

[bystander]

What does the 7970 have to make it a better card if you just running one and not using 3D?

Price. The 7970 Ghz edition is a little faster too.

 

[GMPoisoN]

What does the 7970 have to make it a better card if you just running one and not using 3D?

Price. The 7970 Ghz edition is a little faster too.

Thanks for the information.

 

[shinte122]

Beyond the price being cheaper on the 7970 me and my brother have both cards i got the 7970 from asus he got the 680 ftw edition from evga we both play everything at max 60fps no issues at 1080p. The 7970 is benchmarks and games does get higher frames i usually get a few frames higher than my brother at same clocks we both run them at 1200 ghz but than again we play everything at 60 frames so it doesnt really matter lol just go for any of them i say get the 7970 more performance and cheaper and just to say my card runs at 1.189 volts at 1200 core and 1650 memory been running it at that for close to a year now under water and my temps never go over 42 celcius its a great card i love it.

 

[GMPoisoN]

Beyond the price being cheaper on the 7970 me and my brother have both cards i got the 7970 from asus he got the 680 ftw edition from evga we both play everything at max 60fps no issues at 1080p. The 7970 is benchmarks and games does get higher frames i usually get a few frames higher than my brother at same clocks we both run them at 1200 ghz but than again we play everything at 60 frames so it doesnt really matter lol just go for any of them i say get the 7970 more performance and cheaper and just to say my card runs at 1.189 volts at 1200 core and 1650 memory been running it at that for close to a year now under water and my temps never go over 42 celcius its a great card i love it.

Thanks, thin I've decided with the 7970 vapor x since the card come with 3 free games. Do you have the Matrix?