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April 24, 2013 6:28:45 PM

I've done some research considering I'm planning on soon to order all of the parts wanted to build the computer I have been wishing upon for the past, eh, like few years. Currently speaking, I'm going to dive right into the specs of the LOW BUDGET build I'm looking to throw together soon.
Why the low budget one? Well to be honest it's not to low budget, but considering if you wish to buy lets say, a i7 with a great motherboard it's going to most likely run over $1,000 right off the start; that's certainly not what I wish to spend all of my money on right now in life.

Here we go: (This list has been updated, thanks to realchaos)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($194.15 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Thermal Compound: Antec Formula 7 Nano Diamond 4g Thermal Paste ($11.68 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 3GB Video Card ($233.98 @ Newegg)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar Essence STX 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card ($184.99 @ Amazon)
Wireless Network Adapter: Linksys WMP600N 802.11a/b/g/n PCI Wi-Fi Adapter ($47.21 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Switch 810 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($146.47 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Xigmatek CLF-F1251 68.3 CFM 120mm Fan ($11.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: OCZ StealthXstream II 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.96 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($184.97 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus PB278Q 27.0" Monitor ($639.99 @ NCIX US)
Keyboard: Rosewill RK-9100BR Wired Slim Keyboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder Wired Optical Mouse ($43.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $2449.32
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-28 16:05 EDT-0400)

I am currently looking on advice for what to upgrade the CPU to? I feel as though I could find something better for the gaming and video editing I wish to actually do. I understand the Quad-core CPU is actually very good for the job of gaming, especially for the price of nearly 90 US-dollars. But what could I just upgrade it slightly to? I know the speed on it honestly is pretty low, I'm not looking to over-clock it, but I probably easily could.

If you're wondering why I have that type of case, I am buying that case for the fact that I won't need another case. I am looking to build a completely WAY more high grade computer, involving a Rampage IV Extreme Motherboard; it's going to be a water cooling build, which is the main reason for the type of case.

The soundcard is just for legitimate sound, I trust Creative Labs completely, they've certainly been a great company for high quality sound devices. I love music, that's actually going to be another main thing I wish to do, Music Production and editing. I also do programming, website design and code, along with many other things.

Continuing... (Sorry for the off subject babbling in some parts, I like to explain.)

Just give me some advice, it's appreciated. If you wish to give advice on anything at all, just shoot away, I'm all ears and discussion.

Thanks, in advance.



Sincerely,



- The Affiliated

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April 24, 2013 7:18:58 PM

May you please list the price of each component? Also, where will you be buying from?
Also by watercooling, do you mean closed loop water cooling or a complete custom water cooling?

Also, I hope you know that the Rampage IV Extreme motherboard isn't a regular ATX size, its an eATX size. Which means that you'll need to find a case that supports EATX. As the name suggests, it means extended ATX so you will need a bigger case. Most cases that support EATX are full towers.

You do not need a wireless AND wired adapter. Honestly, the wired adapter in the motherboard is good enough. If you do not plan on connecting it directly to your router, just buy a wireless adapter. If you can connect it directly, don't buy any wireless/wired adapter.
If you are completely serious with the music stuff, I would suggest getting a better sound card for some hard-core sound. Also, I'm not sure if you have good speakers so I just added them onto the list:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 12g Thermal Paste ($15.23 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($159.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($250.00 @ Newegg)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar Essence STX 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card ($184.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define XL R2 (Black Pearl) ATX Full Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($76.50 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.96 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($184.97 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus PB278Q 27.0" Monitor ($639.99 @ NCIX US)
Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Rapid Wired Gaming Keyboard ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Mouse: Logitech G500 Wired Laser Mouse ($47.86 @ Amazon)
Speakers: Corsair Gaming Audio Series SP2500 232W 2.1ch Speakers ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2489.41
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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-The 8cores from the FX-8350 will really help in programming, coding, designing, and all the other work you do.
-A better motherboard. Personally, I think this is the best 970 board, though that's only because I have only tried this one.
-Cheaper 16gb of ram.
-Cheaper SSD, still great quality
-Threw in a 2tb HDD. With all the work you'll be doing, I'm going to assume you need a lot of space.
-A 7950 at a really really good price.
-Some legit, hard-core sound card.
-A full tower that supports EATX boards, though I think this build is good enough.
-One of the best psu makers, modular, cheap.
-Cheaper 1440p monitor. Just as good if not better.
-Mechanical keyboard and laser mouse.
-No point of good sound if you have no good speakers to play it with right?
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April 25, 2013 1:20:36 AM

For me if u wanna blow that much on a 27" display might as well hit a 32" LED TV? Also for a gaming rig i would look to slot in a HD 7970 GHZ asap if within budget rather than bells of whistles of SSD/etc Also for that kind of dough you really could get an 80+ gold/plat PSU
April 25, 2013 8:00:40 AM

Rosewill Blackhawk Ultra is the actual case I'm looking to purchase, sorry for the mistake.
I did notice I had a wired card aswell, I took that off yesterday right when I spotted it.

I'm not looking to change the GPU, I really want the 660 for this build.

I don't really wish for cheaper memory, the Mushkin is trusting and high quality.

Your motherboard for that build looks great for what I need, ASUS is certainly a great company to get a motherboard from.
I'm honestly not even that familiar with MSI, I don't find it that good.

That Monitor is exactly what I need for the cheaper price, I honestly couldn't find a ASUS 27" when I looked, I appreciate your findings.

I'm wishing to use Windows 7 Ultimate for, well, the ability to use the operating system to the FULLEST.

I have been looking to buy a very high quality set of speakers and surround sound system from a friend of mine.

The OCZ SSD has amazing speeds, that's something I want for this computer.

I'm going to look up more on that 8-core, I've heard a lot about the AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor, if someone wishes to compare the AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor to the one I had chosen, that would be fantastic.
The CPU is the main thing I wanted to talk about for this build. Cause it's such a lower price than the GPU, it's bottlenecked, it's not close in price at all. I don't wish to over work the CPU because of the GPU or have anything happen to this build, I understand that I have the Corsair H100i cooler witch is actually a wonderful radiator cooler so I won't even have much of an issue. But I'm still concerned.

Thank you for the advice, I would appreciate keeping the conversation and advice going.
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April 25, 2013 5:13:50 PM

OCZ Vertex 3's aren't that great. Anyways, the plextor M5S offers amazing speed and reliability for a really cheap price. It would be a much better buy than the OCZ Vertex 3.

Ahh since you're buying high quality speakers from a friend, ditch the one I posted earlier.

Personally, the Rosewill Blackhawk doesn't look very well for the price (my opinion!). If you really like the looks, then it's fine. The case are always preferences. I'll just like to give a few other options for you to look at:
-NZXT Phantom: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/nzxt-case-phan001bk
-NZXT Switch 810: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/nzxt-case-casw810b1
-CoolerMaster HAF X: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-rc942kk...

The FX-8350 obviously beats the AMD Phenom II x4 965. The 8350 is AMD's top of the line processor. For your build, I would suggest either a FX-8350 or FX-6300. The Phenom x4 965 is a great processor, but in a build like this you should be aiming for a FX-8350. Since you will be overclocking, a FX-8320 is fine too.
April 25, 2013 5:28:48 PM

realchaos said:
OCZ Vertex 3's aren't that great. Anyways, the plextor M5S offers amazing speed and reliability for a really cheap price. It would be a much better buy than the OCZ Vertex 3.

Ahh since you're buying high quality speakers from a friend, ditch the one I posted earlier.

Personally, the Rosewill Blackhawk doesn't look very well for the price (my opinion!). If you really like the looks, then it's fine. The case are always preferences. I'll just like to give a few other options for you to look at:
-NZXT Phantom: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/nzxt-case-phan001bk
-NZXT Switch 810: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/nzxt-case-casw810b1
-CoolerMaster HAF X: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-rc942kk...

The FX-8350 obviously beats the AMD Phenom II x4 965. The 8350 is AMD's top of the line processor. For your build, I would suggest either a FX-8350 or FX-6300. The Phenom x4 965 is a great processor, but in a build like this you should be aiming for a FX-8350. Since you will be overclocking, a FX-8320 is fine too.


Thank you for that, I looked into the SSD's, I have decided to go in the direction of the M5S; certainly worth the dollar.

I just went with the NZXT Switch 810, that seems to be a extremely great case, I'm going to look up a case review for this. Seems to be the one that fits what I would like, it does have a nice look aswell, looking to be able to have great areas for fans. I certainly like that.

I've taken your word and obvious stating proof into strong consideration of the FX-8350. Thank you.

I'm however second guessing the video card?
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April 25, 2013 5:42:50 PM

Which video card are you talking about? The Radeon HD 7970 that I listed or the GTX660 that you listed?
April 25, 2013 5:52:25 PM

The GTX-660, I'm trying to figure out if that's what I should honestly use, or if there is something possibly even better and may be helpful in the dollar amount.
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April 25, 2013 6:12:45 PM

May I ask what programs and games you'll be using/playing?
April 25, 2013 6:26:02 PM

Games? Mostly things such ArmA 3 for games, that would be a great example.
Video Editing software, programs such as Cinema 4D, Adobe Photoshop, After Effects.
Music software for an example like Fruity Loops Studio.

Quite a few rendering type of programs that I will be using for Videos and many other things.
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April 25, 2013 7:05:36 PM

You should find out if you'll need CUDA for your programs. I honestly don't know much about rendering/programs so I can't help you there.
If you do need CUDA, grab the GTX670. Otherwise, grab the Radeon HD 7970.
May 10, 2013 8:10:03 AM

realchaos said:
You should find out if you'll need CUDA for your programs. I honestly don't know much about rendering/programs so I can't help you there.
If you do need CUDA, grab the GTX670. Otherwise, grab the Radeon HD 7970.


I have found that after some benchmarks, running a few things and doing some research; I'm heading towards using the ASUS Radeon HD 7870 graphics card.
Click link for NCIX website viewing of purchasing this graphics card.

Is this honestly a great idea?

I apologize in advance if I have broken any rule by posting in this slightly old thread.


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May 10, 2013 4:25:53 PM

The 7870 is a nice gpu. Since this is an old thread and I'm lazy to re-read this whole thing, what is the purpose of this build again?
I know you'll be doing a lot of work, but will there be any sort of gaming involved?

May 19, 2013 1:02:44 PM

realchaos said:
The 7870 is a nice gpu. Since this is an old thread and I'm lazy to re-read this whole thing, what is the purpose of this build again?
I know you'll be doing a lot of work, but will there be any sort of gaming involved?



There most certainly will be, along with recording and a lot of editing.

I'm currently looking at certain builds I've actually put together lately.

Here's some information on the builds I'm looking at:

"011111010"

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H80 92.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($122.13 @ TigerDirect)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Fatal1ty Professional ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Dominator GT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($90.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($164.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($269.99 @ Newegg)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar Essence STX 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card ($187.98 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT H2 Classic Silent (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($88.66 @ NCIX US)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition (2-Pack) 62.7 CFM 120mm Fans ($27.67 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition (2-Pack) 62.7 CFM 120mm Fans ($27.67 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: BitFenix Spectre Pro LED 56.2 CFM 120mm Fan ($11.98 @ Outlet PC)
Case Fan: BitFenix Spectre Pro LED 86.7 CFM 140mm Fan ($16.05 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Gaming 700W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($104.98 @ Outlet PC)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.96 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($134.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus MX279H 27.0" Monitor ($332.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K90 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($144.98 @ Newegg)
Mouse: Corsair Vengeance M95 Wired Laser Mouse ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Speakers: Audioengine A5+ White 100W 2ch Speakers ($399.00 @ Amazon)
Other: White 15 Inch Sound Activated Cold Cathode Kit (2) ($15.98)
Total: $2570.95
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-19 15:59 EDT-0400)



"Osiris"

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H80 92.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($122.13 @ TigerDirect)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 12g Thermal Paste ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock 990FX Extreme4 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Dominator GT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($90.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($164.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 650 Ti 2GB Video Card ($144.99 @ NCIX US)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar Essence STX 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card ($187.98 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master CM 690 II (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($86.97 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 37.9 CFM 120mm Fans ($27.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition (2-Pack) 62.7 CFM 120mm Fans ($27.67 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition (2-Pack) 62.7 CFM 120mm Fans ($27.67 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM 140mm Fan ($14.99 @ NCIX US)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-R8 PWM 31.4 CFM 80mm Fan ($12.99 @ NCIX US)
Case Fan: BitFenix Spectre LED 47.7 CFM 140mm Fan ($9.99 @ Microcenter)
Case Fan: BitFenix Spectre LED 47.7 CFM 140mm Fan ($9.99 @ Microcenter)
Case Fan: BitFenix Spectre LED 47.7 CFM 140mm Fan ($9.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts Green 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($72.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.96 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.94 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus MX279H 27.0" Monitor ($332.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K90 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($144.98 @ Newegg)
Mouse: Corsair Vengeance M95 Wired Laser Mouse ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Speakers: Corsair Gaming Audio Series SP2500 232W 2.1ch Speakers ($183.99 @ NCIX US)
Other: White 15 Inch Sound Activated Cold Cathode Kit (2) ($15.98)
Total: $2207.10
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-19 16:00 EDT-0400)



"TMB"

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H110 94.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 12g Thermal Paste ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V DELUXE ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($279.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($66.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 3GB Video Card ($245.66 @ Newegg)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar Essence STX 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card ($187.98 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Switch 810 (Gun Metal) ATX Full Tower Case ($152.94 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Performance Edition (2-Pack) 63.5 CFM 120mm Fans ($26.98 @ Outlet PC)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 37.9 CFM 120mm Fans ($27.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition (2-Pack) 62.7 CFM 120mm Fans ($27.67 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: BitFenix Spectre Pro LED 86.7 CFM 140mm Fan ($16.05 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-14D1XT Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($134.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus MX239H 23.0" Monitor ($237.58 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K90 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($144.98 @ Newegg)
Mouse: Corsair Vengeance M95 Wired Laser Mouse ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Speakers: Audioengine A5+ White 100W 2ch Speakers ($399.00 @ Amazon)
Other: White 15 Inch Sound Activated Cold Cathode Kit (2) ($15.98)
Total: $2716.69
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-19 16:01 EDT-0400)
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