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$1200-$1600 Gaming System Setup Suggestions?

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May 15, 2013 1:03:58 PM

Hello all,
My name is Wyatt aka the BigBrutal. I would like to take this time now and thank everyone who views, posts, comments, and recommends anything to me.
Now onward! I have built about 4-5 computer from scratch by now as well as "upgrade/fix" several others. However, that was quite some years ago. I do currently work IT in a hospital but im a new hire and it doesnt involve building pc's or having knowledge of the newer parts coming out. I built my precious pc in 2006 and only had to replace the CPU and GPU since then. But it is 7 years later and about that time that I get to have fun again. By fun I mean the fun of looking at all the parts, possibilities, builds, etc that come with building a new computer. The parts I will NOT need are a keyboard, mouse, monitors, headsets/speakers, those are already taken care of. As far as the OS, I got the license that allows it to be installed on up to 3 machines. So I will be using my Old windows 7 key.
Right now to the good stuff. I do not know too much about SLI and Crossfire ( only crossfire I know is the old school "table top" game and the paintball Nitrotank kit.) SO which would be best? Also for the set of cards I do not want to run more than $400 for both. I have a Radeon 550ti fermi in my system now but would prefer to keep that as a Guest/Server machine for lan parties.
*deep breath*.
NOW the age old question but I'm pretty sure i already know the answer to it.... AMD?? or INTEL??

Im digging the i5's possibly looking at the i7 that might be an upgrade in the future. Now...... Suggestions??

Current build, Fit Right into budget! ( was not including mouse, keyboard, moniters, or headset Tiamat's) in the original build. just over $1600
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1l3at
a b 4 Gaming
May 15, 2013 1:15:49 PM

Here is what I would do, btw that PSU is overkill. This one is enough for an OC and SLI 670s for down the road (Also is matches your case). This gives you a fast drive for OS/Apps, and plenty of storage. You can OC the CPU and should have a great gaming computer.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 670 4GB Video Card ($443.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill THOR V2-W ATX Full Tower Case ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer Mk III 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1417.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-15 16:17 EDT-0400)
May 15, 2013 1:28:57 PM

The PSU is only $20 more from newegg with the package deal. So I figure overkill will be fine. Plus I like the selectable colors. Any reason why the Munshkin 8g? Also I personally think that GPU is overkill. Any other that are about ~$100 cheaper that are just slightly less performance wise?
Also if i downgrade that I can up the ram to 16gb.
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a b 4 Gaming
May 15, 2013 2:03:29 PM

Yea but the PC Power & Cooling is a much better quality PSU, its up to you but I don't skimp on the PSU. RAM brand is really arbitrary, you do need one that is low profile so it fits under the CPU cooler, and that kit is black so it matches. If you want to spend less, you could look at the GTX660, but that 670 is not overkill. You won't need 16GB of RAM, that money is better spent on the GPU.
a b 4 Gaming
May 15, 2013 2:06:43 PM

If you have a microcenter near you, you can get an i5 3570k for $170 and a motherboard for around $40 off.

If not, i would build this

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD4H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($55.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($86.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($253.29 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1036.19
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-15 17:03 EDT-0400)

Rosewill not really my taste in products but you can go for it if you would so want too.

750W is all you really need and lets you upgrade to a second GPU when needed. I took the cheaper choice and went with price to performance and the 7870 XT is pretty much king and can overclock fairly easy.

16GB of ram is quite a lot, you don't really need that much. If you still want to go for it though, get these
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-memory-bls2kit8g3d...

a b 4 Gaming
May 15, 2013 2:09:38 PM

Transmaniacon said:
Yea but the PC Power & Cooling is a much better quality PSU, its up to you but I don't skimp on the PSU. RAM brand is really arbitrary, you do need one that is low profile so it fits under the CPU cooler, and that kit is black so it matches. If you want to spend less, you could look at the GTX660, but that 670 is not overkill. You won't need 16GB of RAM, that money is better spent on the GPU.


The 670 that you chose is overkill, with that kind of money you can get a 7970 which out performs it.

PC&P is a great brand for PSUs but there are many cheaper alternatives without skimping on quality like XFX.

The Ram you chose is pretty price, and something like the Viper 3 won't get in the of mounting a 212 evo. $30 more for 16GB of ram though from Crucial.
May 16, 2013 5:38:12 AM

boulbox would I not want a full tower? Also, I can see where Transmaniacon is coming from because essentially for a gaming machine you do want to focus on the cpu and gpu being the most expensive.
a b 4 Gaming
May 16, 2013 6:00:28 AM

A full tower offers a lot of space inside. If you were going with a multi-gpu setup, with watercooling, a full tower is often necessary. For an average build though you can save money and space with a mid-tower.

I would say give us a more specific budget. You mention $800-$1600, well do want to spend all of it, or keep it low?
May 16, 2013 11:12:44 AM

I Started the build with a full tower in mind, i can always change out the other stuff, my mid tower setup was ok but i do plan on running 2 cards instead of one so I was going to run cheaper cards but run SLI. I did want liquid cooling. I liked boul's suggestions the most with slight tweaks to the build and i liked maniacs as well. I really just needed a basis to go off of and i got mid range build and a higher end build which works out beautifully.
ALSO EDITED THE Price range to 900-1200 if that helps out. I don't mind going over if I have to because the video cards are more expansive. I can't blame anyone on builds because I did give a HUGE range of play.
a b 4 Gaming
May 16, 2013 12:44:14 PM

If it is for mostly gaming and i mean like you want the high shelf of potato salad, then you can get the 7970/GHz. If you do, grab an 850W and seriously, if you could wait for a month or two, you can just get the newer Haswell CPU and a newer GPU from Nvidia
May 16, 2013 1:19:15 PM

I mean it doesnt have to be NEW off the shelf infact I prefer waiting a few months from when a card is released so I get a better deal.
a b 4 Gaming
May 16, 2013 2:24:42 PM

Yea, then you should just wait for the Haswell CPU/wait for price drop for older items
May 16, 2013 9:13:34 PM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/XOHG
That is my current build, unfortunately i did go a little over but i think it will be worth it. I do not have an account on pcparts yet so just follow the link.
a b 4 Gaming
May 16, 2013 9:26:52 PM

Sound card is not needed, most Motherboards have decent sound cards on board already. the 750W is pretty expensive you can get a bronze one for $30 cheaper and they don't seriously save you a whole lot of money
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1750xxxb...

Also you are missing a case
May 17, 2013 5:18:18 AM

Yea I have to go through and look at all the cases and see which one I like.
As far as the sound card goes I am getting 7.1 surround system in the near future and would just prefer to have the sound card. I will be buying another 670 for SLI so I still want to keep the PSU.
a b 4 Gaming
May 17, 2013 12:33:03 PM

The PSU i put inside can run a 670 SLI fairly easy. heck a 650W PSU can run 2 670s fairly easy.
May 20, 2013 7:49:20 AM

Thank you all especially boulbox for your input I shall slowly be ordering, i will order the cpu and gpu last as those prices tend to drop. as well as the haswell psu coming out soon.
a b 4 Gaming
May 20, 2013 6:01:12 PM

it's Haswell CPU :)  but i recommend ordering all at once or if one thing is on a good sale, get it.
May 26, 2013 9:39:21 AM

Update I got 16gb Corsair Vengeance for $99, The reason I needed the Sound Card was for my 7.1 Tiamat's. I will be waiting on the Haswell, What im doing is looking on each site everyday for a deal on the next part I need. So far I got 2tb seagate barricuda for 79.99, 12.99 for Lite On Dvd drive/burner, 39.99 for the Asus DSX 7.1 sound card, and the Razer Tiamat's for 159.99.
May 31, 2013 9:38:20 AM

Right now there is a sale on newegg for samsung 840 120gb ssd's for 84.99 I was thinking of getting 2-3 and putting them into a Raid-5 formation for redundancy. Yay or Nay?
a b 4 Gaming
May 31, 2013 10:12:40 AM

I wouldn't. I would usually just get 1 big SSD instead of having a raid. Also that 840(non pro) uses TLC which is not that great for SSDs.
May 31, 2013 12:01:57 PM

boulbox said:
I wouldn't. I would usually just get 1 big SSD instead of having a raid. Also that 840(non pro) uses TLC which is not that great for SSDs.


That is good to know, thank you boulbox. This is the reason I ask questions.
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