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Building Decent 500$ Gaming Computer, Please Help!

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May 18, 2013 8:40:22 PM

Hello everyone! Since birth I've been stuck with a pretty garbage machine. If I close all other programs, and end all the processes I can, and then set League of Legends to high priority, I can get 10 frames at best on lowest settings. For those who don't know, LoL is not a system intensive game. Anyways, I recently ran into a bit of money, and I'm looking to build the best possible computer with 500$. I'm going to be playing games that aren't too intense, such as League of Legends, Gary's Mod, or Minecraft. I'd also like to be able to run Skype and possibly even my browser at the same time (that would be godly). I'd also really like to get 60 fps on high settings, but I've accepted on this budget it won't be likely (or even possible), so I guess medium or even low settings are fine if need be. I'm not too sure how this works, but I live in Canada (Ontario) if that makes any difference. I'd really like to thank anyone who'd spend any time to help me in advance, as I know this isn't something you'd have to do, but would sure as heck improve the quality of my life. Thanks again,

Jared
May 18, 2013 8:55:59 PM

Kareshnaka said:
Intel Core i3-3220 CPU: http://goo.gl/VRJio

MSI B75MA-P45 Motherboard: http://goo.gl/0UxgT

EVGA GTX 650 Ti Graphics Card: http://goo.gl/kpPCv

4GB Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz RAM: http://goo.gl/k6MHj

500GB Western Digital Caviar Blue Hard Drive: http://goo.gl/42nno

430W Corsair CX430 Power Supply: http://goo.gl/aT957

NZXT Source 220 Case: http://goo.gl/cEDdu

this is a pretty good setup :) 


Just looked over everything and it looks really solid! Just as a precaution, if I were to go ahead and order all these parts, is that everything I would need (besides keyboard, mouse, monitor and OS) to get up and running? Also, would you say this machine would be upgradable in the future? Thanks a lot for your help!
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May 18, 2013 9:09:40 PM

WarJar said:
Kareshnaka said:
Intel Core i3-3220 CPU: http://goo.gl/VRJio

MSI B75MA-P45 Motherboard: http://goo.gl/0UxgT

EVGA GTX 650 Ti Graphics Card: http://goo.gl/kpPCv

4GB Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz RAM: http://goo.gl/k6MHj

500GB Western Digital Caviar Blue Hard Drive: http://goo.gl/42nno

430W Corsair CX430 Power Supply: http://goo.gl/aT957

NZXT Source 220 Case: http://goo.gl/cEDdu

this is a pretty good setup :) 


Just looked over everything and it looks really solid! Just as a precaution, if I were to go ahead and order all these parts, is that everything I would need (besides keyboard, mouse, monitor and OS) to get up and running? Also, would you say this machine would be upgradable in the future? Thanks a lot for your help!



yes, this is all you need, the cables and screws etc. will be included. yes, you can upgrade this pc i would recommend getting two sticks of ram asap. 4gb is good, but 8 is optimal for gaming
May 18, 2013 9:15:38 PM

Kareshnaka said:
or,
msi twin frozrII 7850 http://goo.gl/WsYZU

4bg corsair vengence 1600ram http://goo.gl/ptYNr

Amd phenomII x4 965 black edition http://goo.gl/SViwc

gigabyte ga-970a-d3 motherboard http://goo.gl/4Slsv

1tb 7200rpm hard drive http://goo.gl/xZA3a

rosewill case with 500watt power supply http://goo.gl/1rycK

This one is a little better...


Okay, so which of the two builds, the first or second one, is the better choice of the two? Is the second one just all around more powerful? I assume these are machines you've built or recommended before, so these parts work together (and the power supply is big enough), correct? Thanks again for all of your help, I really appreciate it!
May 18, 2013 9:18:50 PM

also what is the specs of your current pc? I'm curious.
May 18, 2013 9:23:34 PM

Kareshnaka said:
also what is the specs of your current pc? I'm curious.


Specs:
Microsoft Windows XP 2002 SP3
AMD Sempron Processor 3200+ (1.8 Ghz)
2 GBs of Ram (I upgraded this)
and the NVIDIA GeForce 6150 LE Graphics Card

Also, just in case you missed the post above (I think we posted one after another):
"
Intel Core i3-3220 CPU: http://goo.gl/VRJio

MSI B75MA-P45 Motherboard: http://goo.gl/0UxgT

EVGA GTX 650 Ti Graphics Card: http://goo.gl/kpPCv

4GB Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz RAM: http://goo.gl/k6MHj

500GB Western Digital Caviar Blue Hard Drive: http://goo.gl/42nno

430W Corsair CX430 Power Supply: http://goo.gl/aT957

NZXT Source 220 Case: http://goo.gl/cEDdu
Okay, so which of the two builds, the first or second one, is the better choice of the two? Is the second one just all around more powerful? I assume these are machines you've built or recommended before, so these parts work together (and the power supply is big enough), correct? Thanks again for all of your help, I really appreciate it!"
May 18, 2013 9:39:32 PM

WarJar said:
Kareshnaka said:
or,
msi twin frozrII 7850 http://goo.gl/WsYZU

4bg corsair vengence 1600ram http://goo.gl/ptYNr

Amd phenomII x4 965 black edition http://goo.gl/SViwc

gigabyte ga-970a-d3 motherboard http://goo.gl/4Slsv

1tb 7200rpm hard drive http://goo.gl/xZA3a

rosewill case with 500watt power supply http://goo.gl/1rycK

This one is a little better...


Okay, so which of the two builds, the first or second one, is the better choice of the two? Is the second one just all around more powerful? I assume these are machines you've built or recommended before, so these parts work together (and the power supply is big enough), correct? Thanks again for all of your help, I really appreciate it!


I have built the intel one for a friend and is well rounded. the amd one is hypothetical; I haven't built it but since the amd phenom is so cheap nowadays i had to include it in my recommendations
May 18, 2013 10:02:15 PM

Kareshnaka said:
WarJar said:
Kareshnaka said:
or,
msi twin frozrII 7850 http://goo.gl/WsYZU

4bg corsair vengence 1600ram http://goo.gl/ptYNr

Amd phenomII x4 965 black edition http://goo.gl/SViwc

gigabyte ga-970a-d3 motherboard http://goo.gl/4Slsv

1tb 7200rpm hard drive http://goo.gl/xZA3a

rosewill case with 500watt power supply http://goo.gl/1rycK

This one is a little better...


Okay, so which of the two builds, the first or second one, is the better choice of the two? Is the second one just all around more powerful? I assume these are machines you've built or recommended before, so these parts work together (and the power supply is big enough), correct? Thanks again for all of your help, I really appreciate it!


I have built the intel one for a friend and is well rounded. the amd one is hypothetical; I haven't built it but since the amd phenom is so cheap nowadays i had to include it in my recommendations


Okay then, I think I'm going to go with the first one, as it looks like a solid choice. Do you think I'll be able to play games (not like Farcry or Battlefield) on high at 60 fps, or will I have to drop it down to medium/low?
May 18, 2013 10:21:12 PM

you should be able to max out a lot of games;minecraft,L o L,and garry's mod should be 60+ fps. youll be able to play crysis 3, skyrim, sim city, and far cry with reasonable graphics quality(medium-high) at great fps.
May 18, 2013 10:24:23 PM

you could also wait on the graphics card until the 700series nvidia cards(end of may). things should be much more cheaper then.
May 18, 2013 11:17:05 PM

Just to give you an idea of your recommended builds, I have the Phenom II X4 965 and the HD7770 and I am able to max out many games including things like skyrim with hd mods and sleeping dogs. The 7850 and 650ti are both superior so they should easily dominate the majority of games let alone things like LoL and Minecraft.

(note, I am the kind of person who is used to relatively choppy frame rates coming from a pretty weak laptop so 30fps feels very smooth to me :p )
May 20, 2013 12:21:30 PM

thesuperguy said:
Just to give you an idea of your recommended builds, I have the Phenom II X4 965 and the HD7770 and I am able to max out many games including things like skyrim with hd mods and sleeping dogs. The 7850 and 650ti are both superior so they should easily dominate the majority of games let alone things like LoL and Minecraft.

(note, I am the kind of person who is used to relatively choppy frame rates coming from a pretty weak laptop so 30fps feels very smooth to me :p )


So would you recommend the Phenom Build over the Intel one?
May 20, 2013 12:27:23 PM

I am not recommending either of them. I'm merely giving you an idea of the capabilities of the Phenom which is quite significantly cheaper than the Intel i3-3220. However, in terms of most games, the i3 does provide better performance but that may well change in the future because more and more games are becoming capable of using more than only 2 cores. That is when the Phenom with its 2 extra cores will surpass the i3.
May 20, 2013 2:09:39 PM

thesuperguy said:
I am not recommending either of them. I'm merely giving you an idea of the capabilities of the Phenom which is quite significantly cheaper than the Intel i3-3220. However, in terms of most games, the i3 does provide better performance but that may well change in the future because more and more games are becoming capable of using more than only 2 cores. That is when the Phenom with its 2 extra cores will surpass the i3.


Ok, thanks to both of you for helping. I've decided I like everything about the second build, except I'm not 100% on the processor. From what I've researched, people are saying the Phenom is going out of date, which isn't something that makes me want to spend 100$ on it in a brand new machine. I'm going to think it over for a bit (or if anyone else has an opinion on Phenom vs i3) and hopefully come to decision soon. Thanks again!
May 20, 2013 2:56:21 PM

For your purposes, the Phenom really is sufficient. The extra money is better spent on the graphics card.
May 20, 2013 3:54:29 PM

I think it all matters on rather you'd like to overclock. amd support their processors and sockets for a long time(it will be unsupported in 2015!) and this processors is more-than-capable for gaming a great for other things as well. and you can overclock the phemon to 4.0ghz+ with a good cooler. The i3 is newer, but you cant overclock, and after the haswell chips are out, the socket type changes and you are kind of stuck with the iX-3XXX series unless you upgrade your motherboard. this isn't bad because haswell wont become mainstream for a while, but intel is almost always the more expensive way to go.
May 21, 2013 9:40:27 AM

Kareshnaka said:
I think it all matters on rather you'd like to overclock. amd support their processors and sockets for a long time(it will be unsupported in 2015!) and this processors is more-than-capable for gaming a great for other things as well. and you can overclock the phemon to 4.0ghz+ with a good cooler. The i3 is newer, but you cant overclock, and after the haswell chips are out, the socket type changes and you are kind of stuck with the iX-3XXX series unless you upgrade your motherboard. this isn't bad because haswell wont become mainstream for a while, but intel is almost always the more expensive way to go.


I guess that settles it! I'm going to go with the Phenom build you posted, as it meets everything I'd want in the computer. Thanks to both of you for your help! Cheers!
May 23, 2013 11:51:14 PM

You are welcome and happy gaming!!!!
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