Asrock X79 Extreme4 RAM Compatibility

[gustafangus]

Hi, my 12gb of Silicon Power ram died, although it barely ever worked. BSODS on every corner. Anyway i have the Asrcok X79 Extreme4 and was wondering, what ram could i get, that would be compatible.

This is one option and i like it. It's 1.5V and would get 2 of these (16gb). Anyway will it work? Reason being, i went to the Asrock MOBO-RAM compatibility list and here is what i got:

This ram is called G.skill F3-17000CL11D-8GBXL
http://www.dinokomp.si/produkt/g-skill-ripjaws-x-8gb-2133mhz-cl11-kit-1-50v/

The closes thing on the Mobo list (http://www.asrock.com/mb/memory.asp?Model=X79%20Extreme4) is: F3-17000CL9D-8GBXLD

What's the difference and will it work?

And no, there is no way i can test any ram. Also, if it won't work, could you tell me some options of what ram to get?

Thanks!

 

[Legohouse]

Hello,

The one of the main difference b/w them is the CAS latency. "F3-17000CL9D-8GBXLD" has a CAS latency of 9 while the other one has a CAS latency of 11. The slower the CAS latency faster the speed, so I would prefer the former memory than the latter one. Also the former memory has an additional fan while the latter doesn't have one.

If you are looking to upgrade your motherboard's memory at a reasonable budget then this is the site you would want to look for - http://www.memorystock.com/memory/ASRockX79Extreme4.html

Note: "Intel® Workstation 1S Xeon® processors E5 16xx/26xx/46xx series" processors support ECC memory while the rest support Non-ECC memory.

Regards.

 

[gustafangus]

Hello,

The one of the main difference b/w them is the CAS latency. "F3-17000CL9D-8GBXLD" has a CAS latency of 9 while the other one has a CAS latency of 11. The slower the CAS latency faster the speed, so I would prefer the former memory than the latter one. Also the former memory has an additional fan while the latter doesn't have one.

If you are looking to upgrade your motherboard's memory at a reasonable budget then this is the site you would want to look for - http://www.memorystock.com/memory/ASRockX79Extreme4.html

Note: "Intel® Workstation 1S Xeon® processors E5 16xx/26xx/46xx series" processors support ECC memory while the rest support Non-ECC memory.

Regards.

Thank You for the reply, but what do you mean by "former" and "latter"? So about the CAS latency. Is it better to go with 1600mhz CL9 or 1866 cl9 or 2133 cl11?

Overall, do you think it would work together?

 

[Legohouse]

"Also the former memory has an additional fan while the latter doesn't have one." Well, what I actually meant was that 'F3-17000CL9D-8GBXLD has an additional fan while F3-17000CL11D-8GBXL doesn't have one'.

When it comes to speed 2133MHz is faster compared to 1866MHz or 1600MHz, but when you compare the CAS latency 9 is better than 11. Overall 2133MHz CL11 is better than the other two.

Yes, they should work together. Good luck with the upgrade!

 

[gustafangus]

Now that I finished the school year, i finnaly decided to buy the ram. But since I'm ordering some stuff from the USA, I was worndering if you could give me some feedback on this.

http://www.amazon.com/G-Skill-PC3-12800-RipjawsZ-10-10-10-30-Channel/dp/B0066VXNH4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1371260031&sr=8-1&keywords=PC3-12800+G.SKILL+32gb

I know 32gb is overkill, although when I was using Adobe A. Affects i went up to 14.8gb when rendering and only 49€ the price difference.

It says it's X79 compatible or it says it IS for x79 so does this mean it will work? What do you think?

 

[Legohouse]

Now that I finished the school year, i finnaly decided to buy the ram. But since I'm ordering some stuff from the USA, I was worndering if you could give me some feedback on this.

http://www.amazon.com/G-Skill-PC3-12800-RipjawsZ-10-10-10-30-Channel/dp/B0066VXNH4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1371260031&sr=8-1&keywords=PC3-12800+G.SKILL+32gb

I know 32gb is overkill, although when I was using Adobe A. Affects i went up to 14.8gb when rendering and only 49€ the price difference.

It says it's X79 compatible or it says it IS for x79 so does this mean it will work? What do you think?

Yes, the memory will work. Your motherboard supports this speed and the memory kit, if you are referring to what GSKILL (Or Amazon) is saying regarding the chipset you should know that it is just a way of marketing and probably they would tested the memory with this chipset motherboards but it is not exclusively for X79 Chipset, other chipset motherboards also support this kit. (Anyway soon they will updating that this memory is for X87 Chipset as well). Well, if you are working with large files then 16GB -32GB will come in handy. 32GB is kinda future proof, anyway if you have the budget then I do not see why you do not have to upgrade. Good luck with the upgrade. Drop a line on how things work out. Cheers!! Adios!!

 

[Tradesman1]

Actually, the Z series was aimed at the X79 chipset and true quad core DRAM, in the advanced timings, it's slightly tweaked towards quad core, will of course run fine on any platform, just shines a little more than say the Ripjaws X, Snipers or Ares with comparable sets when on the X79. Not sure if I would look at the 1600/CL10 1600/CL9 is considered entry level, ignoring the bandwidth increase, this equates to about a 2133/CL12 set...where on a basic stairstep look at DRAM performance wise most will look at 1600/7, 1866/8, 2133/9, 2400/10, etc

 

[gustafangus]

So, because of the fee, ordering from the US to EU, I was unable to buy the 32gb kit as it would be more than a 64gb kit in Europe . Anyway I saw this kit from Germany, and only 20€more money than the 32gb from the USA with 1866mhz instead of 1600. Here it is:

http://www.hoh.de/hardware/arbeitsspeicher/desktop/ddr3/1600-2000/hersteller/g.skill/817411/g.skill-16gb-kit-pc3-14900-ddr3-1866-cl10-sniper-2x8gb

It's the G.skill Sniper. Now it doesn't matter if I order 1 or 2 of these, as long as it works with my Asrock x79 extreme4 motherboard.

Thoughts?

PS. sorry for asking so many questions

 

[Legohouse]

So, because of the fee, ordering from the US to EU, I was unable to buy the 32gb kit as it would be more than a 64gb kit in Europe . Anyway I saw this kit from Germany, and only 20€more money than the 32gb from the USA with 1866mhz instead of 1600. Here it is:

http://www.hoh.de/hardware/arbeitsspeicher/desktop/ddr3/1600-2000/hersteller/g.skill/817411/g.skill-16gb-kit-pc3-14900-ddr3-1866-cl10-sniper-2x8gb

It's the G.skill Sniper. Now it doesn't matter if I order 1 or 2 of these, as long as it works with my Asrock x79 extreme4 motherboard.

Thoughts?

PS. sorry for asking so many questions

Yes, the memory is compatible and it is a great kit. I think you would like 'em.

 

[Tradesman1]

The set your link goes to is a 16GB set, if you want 32 GB, it's best to get a single 32GB set, so the sticks are tested to work together, and also that XMP will work. XMP is programmed by the packaged set a 2 stick set will have different advanced timings than a 4 stick set.

DRAM fans are a nice little add on - you pay for them, but for most all sets are not needed, I run 32GB of 2133 on a P67 and 32GB of 2400 sticks on a Z77 and they never get more than warm, might want them in an extemelely ill ventilated case, but even then a couple of case fans would be cheaper

Legohouse: Pls get facts straight, the Z series of Ripjaws was in fact designed with the X79 chipset in mind and programmed towards the chipset and Quad channel, just as the previous Ripjaws line, the X series was towards 1155 and Dual channel, of course they will work with any chipset but the Zs will have a little extra when running in a quad channel system....

 

[gustafangus]

Hi again, so i decided to go with 4x4gb 2133mhz ram g.skill ofcourse, and PROBABLY spend some more money on the Samsung 840 Pro 256 SSD.

But now i just want to ask whether i go with this ram:

http://www.hoh.de/hardware/arbeitsspeicher/desktop/ddr3/ueber-2000/hersteller/g.skill/463941/g.skill-16gb-kit-ripjaws-x-pc3-17066-ddr3-2133-cl11-4x4gb

or this ram:

http://www.hoh.de/hardware/arbeitsspeicher/desktop/ddr3/ueber-2000/hersteller/g.skill/647481/g.skill-16gb-kit-pc3-19200-ddr3-2400-cl10-tridentx-4x4gb

 

[Tradesman1]

Both are great sets, the 2400s are far and away the better performing to give a more realistic idea of the difference, you always want the lowest CL you can get in like greq, the Tridents are 2400 with a CL 0f 10, if downclocked to 2133 you'd likely run the CL at 9 as opposed to the Ripjaws X 2133 set that is a native CL11 at 2133...plus at 2400 you also gain a lot of bandwidth in MB per seconds processing

 

[gustafangus]

Both are great sets, the 2400s are far and away the better performing to give a more realistic idea of the difference, you always want the lowest CL you can get in like greq, the Tridents are 2400 with a CL 0f 10, if downclocked to 2133 you'd likely run the CL at 9 as opposed to the Ripjaws X 2133 set that is a native CL11 at 2133...plus at 2400 you also gain a lot of bandwidth in MB per seconds processing

Oh man, i feel SO stupid constantly having to ask you this but, it turns out the 2400mhz is 1.65v but i'm looking for 1.5v so now i'm back at these 2 again:

This is 1866mhz with cl9

http://www.hoh.de/hardware/arbeitsspeicher/desktop/ddr3/1600-2000/hersteller/g.skill/463931/g.skill-16gb-kit-ripjawsz-pc3-14900-ddr3-1866-cl9-4x4gb

and this is 2133mhz with cl11

http://www.hoh.de/hardware/arbeitsspeicher/desktop/ddr3/ueber-2000/hersteller/g.skill/463941/g.skill-16gb-kit-ripjaws-x-pc3-17066-ddr3-2133-cl11-4x4gb

They're 100% exact same price so what do you reccomend as a final thing?

 

[Tradesman1]

For full out performance in this case I'd go the 1866 Ripjaws X, at CL9 they equate to a 2133 CL10 set and would probably OC to just that. However there is no problem with the 1.65, as mentioned, that's what I run, you often need more voltage for high freq/high performance DRAM, it also brings up the MC voltage so the balance between DRAM and MC stays at safe levels

 

[gustafangus]

For full out performance in this case I'd go the 1866 Ripjaws X, at CL9 they equate to a 2133 CL10 set and would probably OC to just that. However there is no problem with the 1.65, as mentioned, that's what I run, you often need more voltage for high freq/high performance DRAM, it also brings up the MC voltage so the balance between DRAM and MC stays at safe levels

Hurrah! I got the 2133mhz ram and installed it today. I was really shaking when installing it, as i am prone to fail... Anyway, i put it in and turned it on and it boot up normally! Also i went to system and it does see all 16gb of ram.

I will still run memtest86 to see if everything is ok, but for now, it looks solid!

Thanks so much man, and it looks insane too!

 

[Tradesman1]

Great! Can prob close this thread w/ best answer, if any comes up drop me a line