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EA: PS4, XBox One Are a 'Generation Ahead' of Gaming PCs

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May 25, 2013 9:04:35 AM

hahaha
oh wait you're serious let me laugh even harder
BWAHAHAHAHA
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May 25, 2013 9:09:29 AM

It's a real shame that the industry of video games has become so corrupted that it's no better than any other US corporate entity. Just spew some trash, customers are just marks for you to trick into buying your product, not someone you need to actually please, right EA? Can't wait until it collapses on itself and the indies can resurrect the industry.
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May 25, 2013 9:13:07 AM

Best joke i've heard for some time now.. If gaming consoles are so far ahead, then why use hardware and architecture of a pc then? XBOX1 and PS4 ARE gaming PC's with innate limitations...
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May 25, 2013 9:14:00 AM

what a load of rubbish.....
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May 25, 2013 9:15:06 AM

Hahaha seriously? Haven't had a good laugh for a while, can't wait for those console die hards to start acting tough and superior.
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May 25, 2013 9:16:49 AM

LOL
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May 25, 2013 9:16:51 AM

Insert foot to mouth, wow
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May 25, 2013 9:24:44 AM

I have a hard time seeing this. Maybe a generation ahead on performance to watt or performance to cycle but even if some genius some how removed all wasted clock cycles for bad code, cache misses, and HW to SW inter-layer overhead and latencies... I can still not imagine this is possible.
He must be trying to create a push for the lucrative console market over the PC.

Update. It is possible he is referring to the new consoles in combination with the cloud computing back-end. If so, I wonder if this is the 'Radeon Sky' that AMD was working on. To my knowlege no consumer GPUs are making use of this feature yet.
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May 25, 2013 9:24:51 AM

As far as I see the conoles only have kaveri features (Gddr5, Huma.. iirc) as something that is "ahead" of todays computer hardware.
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May 25, 2013 9:29:01 AM

What a stupid thing to say. EA is just trying to generate hype. Anyone that knows anything about the hardware and gaming potential of PC's knows this is just blantantly wrong.
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May 25, 2013 9:29:22 AM

Yeah my old 1366 i7 with 2 5850s will slap that console upside the head...
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May 25, 2013 9:31:23 AM

i almost drop my balls to the ground reading this article.. Are they serious?
My i7 3770k oc to 4.7ghz, 32gig Dual Channel DD3 2133mhz RAM, with SLI Geforce GTX 680 is a generation behind the Xbox One and PS4? That EA dude should unhero himself..
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May 25, 2013 9:31:28 AM

Ea is as full of shit as microsoft
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May 25, 2013 9:32:40 AM

I stopped reading at "He claims that both the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One are somehow five years ahead of the most extravagant PCs..."
While the next gen consoles will definitely bring a lot of improvement to console gaming, they are in no way ahead of PC gaming.
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May 25, 2013 9:35:37 AM

I wouldn't completely agree, but at the same time, don't be surprised if some games designed for next gen consoles run slower on your high-end $3,000 gaming machine, despite it having significantly more theoretical horsepower.

There are several reasons for this. Both of the new consoles use a Unified Memory Architecture (UMA). That means that the same memory is accessible to both the CPU and GPU. That means that techniques involving the use of both processors on the same data could be significantly faster on the consoles than they are on your PC. It also means that game developers can use a large portion of the available system memory for storing high-res models and textures if they choose. Even high-end PC graphics cards don't usually have more than 3GB of memory today. So there could be issues with running out of video memory in the PC versions of games.

The second factor is resolution and image quality expectations. A lot of people who buy an expensive gaming PC don't want to play at 1080p, and they want to run with higher levels of AA and other settings to enhance the image quality. That doesn't apply to 1080p TVs however that are significantly further away from the player. So while it's not an apples-to-apples comparison, you may need more graphical horsepower to drive your PC display that's 30 inches away than your TV that's 10 feet away.

And then finally of course there's the oft-stated issue of overhead. Because PC hardware can be combined in a variety of configurations, access to the graphics is provided through a compatibility layer like DirectX or OpenGL, which in turn interfaces with the drivers for the videocard, before finally getting to the hardware. That allows the game code to - for the most part - not have to worry about exactly what hardware the game is going to run on. You can play most games regardless of what CPU or GPU you happen to have. However, the existence of those layers also introduces overhead, reducing performance.

On a side note, why doesn't the comments section on the article page itself support paragraphs? It removes all of the line spacing, making long posts look like a wall of text. You have to go to the forum-type interface if you want line spacing.
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May 25, 2013 9:36:52 AM

You know what isn't a generation ahead? SimCity.
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May 25, 2013 9:37:28 AM

they should check the air for drugs over at EA headquarters.
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May 25, 2013 9:38:42 AM

People like Rajat Taneja are still trying to carry off a snow job in a world where that is increasingly impossible to carry off, because world communication and the ability to find facts is so much better than it used to be. All he does with his statement here is show either his ignorance or his desire to manipulate people with incorrect information, or both.
EA certainly doesn't need any more bad press; Taneja did his company no favors here.
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May 25, 2013 9:39:31 AM

AHHAHAHHAA. Have fun with that cable box. I highly doubt it can even compare to my $2,500 machine.
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May 25, 2013 9:40:31 AM

What an idiotic man. Sure consoles may be cheaper but really? PC's ARE SO MUCH better. And this is coming from an XBOX 360 and a WII U owner plus a high end build.
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May 25, 2013 9:42:23 AM

If you are saying these consoles with current gen AMD architecture are "These architectures are a generation ahead of the highest end PC on the market and their unique design of the hardware, the underlying operating system and the live service layer create one of the most compelling platforms to reimagine game mechanics,"...
Then seriously, I really want to see you hardware configuration...
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May 25, 2013 9:42:27 AM

As far as I see the conoles only have kaveri features (Gddr5, Huma.. iirc) as something that is "ahead" of todays computer hardware.
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May 25, 2013 9:44:14 AM

This guy doesn't know what he's talking about. Give me an i7-3970x, quad sli titans, 6 512gb samsung 840 pros, and 32gb of dd3 2800. This will destroy any xbox ps or wii.
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May 25, 2013 9:47:06 AM

I'm used to this ignorant drivel from uneducated idiots, but coming from EA it just reaks of self pandering and lies. God; please smite EA.
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May 25, 2013 9:51:14 AM

If he's referring specifically to APU's and integrated graphics, then yes the APU in both the PS4 and XBox One are probably more than a generation ahead of what's currently available for PC's. Unfortunately for Taneja there's a LOT more graphics performance available out there in the form of dGPU's, which is what the vast majority of people who game on PC use. Basically if you have something that's at or above an ~HD7850, you probably have more raw GPU compute performance than the PS4, and certainly more than the Xbox One.
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May 25, 2013 9:53:09 AM

Yeah it's going to take PC's along time to recover from this, but I'm sure there are going to be a number of Suckers who try to out perform it by buying $ 1000.00 Graphic cards and buy water cooling for Overclocking and what not. Those People just have to try, but failure is their Destiny. LOL
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May 25, 2013 9:54:35 AM

Yeah it's going to take PC's along time to recover from this, but I'm sure there are going to be a number of Suckers who try to out perform it by buying $ 1000.00 Graphic cards and buy water cooling for Overclocking and what not. Those People just have to try, but failure is their Destiny. LOL
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May 25, 2013 9:57:35 AM

Isn't that because they hold stuff back on the PC releases to try and push people towards the console games? Like how they did a straight console port of Dead Space 3 and found it strange that people didn't want the same experience across all platforms, or how they're using an outmoded engine for the PC version of their sports games.
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May 25, 2013 10:00:18 AM

thank you ea, this made my day hahaha. yup, generation ahead? benchmarks? really? lol
this made it special since it came from EA. i know its just for hype but come on, make it more realistic
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May 25, 2013 10:02:48 AM

really ???!!!! for instance Xbox one has of 5 billion transistors , but gtx 780 alone has 7.1 billion not even counting other components such as CPU rams etc..... my rig contains intel 3930 k, GTX 680 2-way SLI , asus rampage iv extreme , 64gb g-skill 2400 mhz ..... can both consoles combined beat this rig , not to mention that there are more advanced pcs than this one .....he must be joking or something ..right
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May 25, 2013 10:02:59 AM

Is this some kind of joke? The only reason it will run games well is due to optimization for static hardware.
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May 25, 2013 10:03:29 AM

This may be true, but it doesn't matter anyways. Within a year or two, the consoles will go without an update and PC's will be two generations ahead in terms of components.
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May 25, 2013 10:11:15 AM

Rajat Taneja i want what u had to get that high, jeez you work for one of the biggest corporation , you just look like a poor guy selling potatoes in sunday market and yeling that his potatoes are the best.Well i guess this article will "catch" 90 years old boys and 5 years childs(seniles and those who can barely speak..)
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May 25, 2013 10:11:45 AM

"These architectures are a generation ahead of the highest end PC on the market"
EA - 2013
And to think this company is buying up all the good PC game designers - I wonder if they will get socially engineered to focus on console over PC and ruin the gaming industry. I really want EA to just stop existing as soon as possible, I hate that company with a fiery passion.
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May 25, 2013 10:13:22 AM

dragonsqrrl said:
If he's referring specifically to APU's and integrated graphics, then yes the APU in both the PS4 and XBox One are probably more than a generation ahead of what's currently available for PC's. Unfortunately for Taneja there's a LOT more graphics performance available out there in the form of dGPU's, which is what the vast majority of people who game on PC use. Basically if you have something that's at or above an ~HD7850, you probably have more raw GPU compute performance than the PS4, and certainly more than the Xbox One.


Yup. If he'd couched it as a general statement -- "new consoles are ahead of the average gaming PC" -- then I'd even agree with him. You gotta figure that most people are running on the low end of the hardware spectrum, after all. And the new tech in PS4/XBOX1 is quite impressive.

And the hardware in the new consoles will likely be very cost-effective from the consumer's point of view -- equal to, or possibly even better than, what any system builder can cram into a DIY gaming rig at a similar price point.

On the eve of a new console release, console gamers have reason to be excited. But EA has to take it about twelve steps too far, by claiming that the new consoles are better than even "extravagant PCs." Leaving aside for a moment that the statement is inaccurate, it bespeaks a wantonly dishonest, marketing-trumps-all, insult-customers'-intelligence attitude that's frankly repellant.

EA's statement is akin to claiming that Sony and Microsoft will sell the public a ~$2000 machine for one quarter of its value. No one in his right mind would believe that claim; just at face value it's totally absurd, bordering on fraud. But by phrasing the claim in vague terms, EA can imply that impossible value proposition without actually saying it.
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May 25, 2013 10:14:26 AM

Ok the PS4 uses DDR5, and the One uses DDR3. While both have 8GB memory it would seem the PS4 has an advantage over the One but to say they are both 5 years ahead of the best gaming PC doesn't fit - they both use lower end graphics cards than what is available to PC gamers. The consoles may both be a lot better than current gen consoles but they DO NOT trump a gaming PC.
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May 25, 2013 10:15:50 AM

yep. EA isnt just the worst company
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May 25, 2013 10:16:16 AM

From what Ive read, The architecture AMD has developed is pretty damn awesome. But I would not call the Next Gen Systems ahead of Current Gaming PCs.
EA needs to keep their noses out of everything.
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May 25, 2013 10:17:12 AM

Rajat Taneja i want what u had to get that high, jeez you work for one of the biggest corporation , you just look like a poor guy selling potatoes in sunday market and yeling that his potatoes are the best.Well i guess this article will "catch" 90 years old boys and 5 years childs(seniles and those who can barely speak..)
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May 25, 2013 10:20:25 AM

*grabs popcorn*
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May 25, 2013 10:20:58 AM

Lol. They're just trying to make sure you buy the more expensive console games. Yes, in many ways consoles are ahead. But I think because it helps shift down development costs and the architecture is different. But gaming PCs are typically built for now instead of 7 years in the future.
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May 25, 2013 10:22:17 AM

ya that is offensive the Xbox one and PS4 if what I read is right both use teck that's 1 or 2 years old already as far as PC's go
they are a MAJOR upgrade vs the old consoles but they are FAR from being 5 years more advanced then a good uptodate PC
let see them put a PC game like Wow on one of those consoles and compare its FPS to up to date pc I would bet a simple GTX 660 or even 650 would stomp it in to the ground ..... but then consoles are setup to run 30 fps (witch is 1/2 of what I want all the time)
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May 25, 2013 10:22:20 AM

OH NO HE DIDN'T.
DID HE JUST?
I THINK HE FUCKING DID.
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May 25, 2013 10:25:20 AM

Lol.
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May 25, 2013 10:25:40 AM

There are already benchmarks up on this "better" architecture. It performs worse than an i3 with integrated GPU. Thing is.. these things are not gaming machines anymore. (Especially the Xbox One.) They target TV... sports.. TV. Did I mention Television?
A low-mid range curren PC can easily beat them both. Now.
Welp, it's EA.
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May 25, 2013 10:27:03 AM

just moddability of PC games alone will ALWAYS put PC gaming "generation ahead" of console gaming...
no console will ever have that much creativity and effort to bring out the best in gaming by the fans for the fans...
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