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June 11, 2013 10:07:21 AM

So I am big console gamer and I love playing minecraft FTB. After the next gen consoles didn't look worth it and I can really only run minecraft at tiny render distance on my laptop, I thought it would be worth trying to build a gaming computer.

So I have been reading a lot of your forums here and you guys look very helpful but many of the questions asked are almost a year old. So i wanted to ask this question with all the newer motherboards and such out. :??: 

So I think I have decided the CPU will be an Intel i5 - 3570k, I looks like the best for a budget and I want to learn overclocking.

As far as motherboards go whats best for that kind of CPU?

Here a few i found
- ASRock Z77E-ITX
- ASRock Z77 Pro3 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s
- ASUS P8Z77-V ATX Intel Motherboard
- ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX Intel Motherboard

but are there better cost effective motherboard on the market? :??: 


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June 11, 2013 7:59:53 PM

Depends on how far do you want to push your 3570k to. If 4.5ghz is good enough then even the Z77 Pro3 would be sufficient. Beyond that I'd suggest the Z77 Extreme4. And don't get the Z77E-ITX unless you want to build a mini ITX system.
June 11, 2013 8:03:30 PM

Why don't you try a haswell CPU?

For the 3570k I recommend a Gigabyte Z77 UD3H, UD4H or UD5H based on your budget

For a Haswell i would recommend a Gigabyte Z87 UD3H
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June 11, 2013 8:49:45 PM

ASRock Z77 Pro3 inexpensive and still lets you overclock.

The next important piece to worry about is choosing a GPU.
June 12, 2013 10:43:05 AM

thanks guys,

so my friend recommended a ASUS P8Z77-V PRO LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard but is it worth the extra money?

and no I don't want to build a mini ITX system.

as for a haswell CPU i was reading about it and it want not that much bigger of an upgrade from the 3rd gen and i was figuring buying 3rd gen stuff would save me some money no?

also the ASRock Z77 Pro3 is inexpensive but what do i lose compared to the..

ASUS P8Z77-V PRO LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

or

ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX Intel Motherboard

and GPU's have me lost, can you use a AMD GPU on a Intel CPU ... i think you can but is there any restrictions to my CPU as far as GPU's go?
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June 12, 2013 11:18:13 AM

Quote:

and GPU's have me lost, can you use a AMD GPU on a Intel CPU ... i think you can but is there any restrictions to my CPU as far as GPU's go?

There are no issues.
June 13, 2013 7:36:13 AM

so then...

the ASRock Z77 Pro3 is inexpensive but what do i lose compared to the..

ASUS P8Z77-V PRO LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

or

ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX Intel Motherboard
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June 13, 2013 7:54:11 AM

Mostly SLI support, and some high-end connectors like esata or s-pdif/coaxial sound outputs.
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June 13, 2013 9:00:10 AM

if your build has a budget less than 1100 in total, you shouldnt even consider overclocking as you need to max out your GPU and include a SSD in your build.

id rather configure an entire build for you rather than just put out a board recommendation. makes things properly balanced
June 13, 2013 10:52:51 AM

thanks madn3ss

and could I consider Overlock in the future then?

and Ok I just want a Intel i5 - 3570k as the CPU
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June 13, 2013 5:52:49 PM

Yes, why not. Just spend 30$ more for a Hyper 212 EVO and you can push your 3570k to 4.5ghz in no time.
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June 13, 2013 5:58:57 PM

the hyper 212 evo tends to struggle beyond 4.3. most of the times it wont do it
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June 13, 2013 6:20:18 PM

TheBigTroll said:
the hyper 212 evo tends to struggle beyond 4.3. most of the times it wont do it


Sometimes it depends on your luck with the 3570k you got.
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June 13, 2013 6:34:39 PM

Madn3ss795 said:
TheBigTroll said:
the hyper 212 evo tends to struggle beyond 4.3. most of the times it wont do it


Sometimes it depends on your luck with the 3570k you got.


And the ambient temp.
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June 14, 2013 3:43:23 AM

its more like it really depends on your luck. ambient temps arent going to help much when your CPU is easily above 80c on a hyper 212 evo (assuming your ambient temps are around 20 and not 10c)
June 14, 2013 8:52:17 AM

thebigtroll you make a build yet because i'm curious and so is the hyper 212 evo good or bad?
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June 14, 2013 8:54:33 AM

its good but you can get better stuff. espeically with haswell having more heat, id make the upgrade to a tc12dx from phanteks
June 14, 2013 9:00:55 AM

TheBigTroll said:


id rather configure an entire build for you rather than just put out a board recommendation. makes things properly balanced


Did you configure a build?

June 14, 2013 9:56:06 AM

thanks

and oh a budget? I want to stay under 1 grand

why 2 hard drives? I see that 1 is SSD. Also why the Gigabyte board? and dam that is a nice gpu!
June 14, 2013 9:57:29 AM

and what is so great about haswell?
June 14, 2013 10:15:08 AM

dam i liked your first ideal build I might wait for some of this stuff to go on sale lolz :3
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June 14, 2013 10:19:34 AM

msi snt great until you get to their mpower series board. their h87 boards however are fine since you cant overclock anyways
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June 14, 2013 10:29:15 AM

The GTX770 has a stronger chip compared to the 7950.

But it is true NVidia seems to go a bit low on the VRAM - although 2GB virtually always enough unless you are running very high resolution or many monitors.
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June 14, 2013 10:35:32 AM

the 770 is contains a stronger chip but less vram. more vram is useful when running a ton of AA and higher res panels (1440+P)

the mpower is great but compare that price tag to the board i chose. and they are about as good compared to each other
June 14, 2013 10:47:04 AM

so would you say its worth the extra cash for: the optical cable, on board WiFi (I need), and then a lot of like gaming stuff (Idk what much of it is) other than words
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June 14, 2013 4:26:07 PM

you should probably buy a powerline kit instead. much less latency than wifi. they can be found for around the 40 bucks mark. basically how it works is that it sends internet through your wall electrical wiring. however, the drawback is that it will not work with a power brick so be cautious of that
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June 14, 2013 4:35:06 PM

Internet over powerline is a bad idea. Not so reliable and generates lots of RFI and EMI.

FWIW I don't have any issues using my desktop on wifi. I am using a PCI card I bought for $1.
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June 14, 2013 5:04:34 PM

it really depends on your house wiring. if you have a home well over 30 years old, then obviously you arent going to get a very good signal
June 18, 2013 12:10:39 PM

I would be using this rig at college for part of the year so I don't think the power line option would work. and as far as the killer Ethernet and Military Class 4: Top Quality & Stability do these things mean really anything?
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June 18, 2013 1:03:52 PM

what you just stated is marketing. the killer nic might help you but not in a huge way
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June 18, 2013 4:45:27 PM

no. its about as good as a z87x-ud3h board from gigabyte with less IO and a 60 dollar price hike
June 19, 2013 8:06:13 AM

Ok so how easy is it to overclock the gigabyte board? because my friend has a board like the asus and he says its very easy to modify, so is there a GUI build in like on the asus? and the DDR3 on the gigabyte board goes to DDR3 3000 O.C. while the asus only goes to 2800 O.C. is that why its better?
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June 19, 2013 10:32:25 AM

Stormageddon said:
Ok so how easy is it to overclock the gigabyte board? because my friend has a board like the asus and he says its very easy to modify, so is there a GUI build in like on the asus? and the DDR3 on the gigabyte board goes to DDR3 3000 O.C. while the asus only goes to 2800 O.C. is that why its better?


I don't know about a GUI but you don't need one to OC.

Even with a text mode BIOS, overclocking with multiplier isn't that hard.

And only benchmarkers will run RAM at those insane speeds. you probably won't go over 1600 or 1833.
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June 19, 2013 10:43:10 AM

overclocking memory is useless. forget it

as for the CPU overclocking, they are just as easy.
June 19, 2013 11:19:40 AM

oh thanks as for the OC GUI i mean the ASUS UEFI BIOS was getting a lot of praise also the asus has better sound no?
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June 19, 2013 11:24:53 AM

UEFI seems pretty pointless to me. But maybe I am stuck in the past to like navigating through textmode BIOSes
June 19, 2013 11:29:39 AM

i am new to the OC and the UEFI sounds good to me haha
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June 19, 2013 11:32:00 AM

you arent going to use easy mode anyways. it doesnt let you do crap. when you go to the advanced mode, they look about the same and run the same. the hero board is a ripoff
June 20, 2013 6:36:57 AM

ok so as far as GPU's go whats the current average priced leader?
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June 20, 2013 8:08:25 AM

id just grab the one i recommended
June 20, 2013 11:57:47 AM

how bout less than $300
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June 20, 2013 12:00:41 PM

The 7950 is currently the best GPU for < $300.
June 20, 2013 12:37:01 PM

so i was reading this article and it says the Tahiti-based Radeon HD 7870 is better, or does the fact that it consumes a lot of power not worth the money?
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