First time build (GAMING) choosing the right MoBo and best bang for buck

[Stormageddon]

So I am big console gamer and I love playing minecraft FTB. After the next gen consoles didn't look worth it and I can really only run minecraft at tiny render distance on my laptop, I thought it would be worth trying to build a gaming computer.

So I have been reading a lot of your forums here and you guys look very helpful but many of the questions asked are almost a year old. So i wanted to ask this question with all the newer motherboards and such out.

So I think I have decided the CPU will be an Intel i5 - 3570k, I looks like the best for a budget and I want to learn overclocking.

As far as motherboards go whats best for that kind of CPU?

Here a few i found
- ASRock Z77E-ITX
- ASRock Z77 Pro3 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s
- ASUS P8Z77-V ATX Intel Motherboard
- ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX Intel Motherboard

but are there better cost effective motherboard on the market?

 

[Madn3ss795]

Depends on how far do you want to push your 3570k to. If 4.5ghz is good enough then even the Z77 Pro3 would be sufficient. Beyond that I'd suggest the Z77 Extreme4. And don't get the Z77E-ITX unless you want to build a mini ITX system.

 

[MiniNinja6]

Why don't you try a haswell CPU?

For the 3570k I recommend a Gigabyte Z77 UD3H, UD4H or UD5H based on your budget

For a Haswell i would recommend a Gigabyte Z87 UD3H

 

[smeezekitty]

ASRock Z77 Pro3 inexpensive and still lets you overclock.

The next important piece to worry about is choosing a GPU.

 

[Stormageddon]

thanks guys,

so my friend recommended a ASUS P8Z77-V PRO LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard but is it worth the extra money?

and no I don't want to build a mini ITX system.

as for a haswell CPU i was reading about it and it want not that much bigger of an upgrade from the 3rd gen and i was figuring buying 3rd gen stuff would save me some money no?

also the ASRock Z77 Pro3 is inexpensive but what do i lose compared to the..

ASUS P8Z77-V PRO LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

or

ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX Intel Motherboard

and GPU's have me lost, can you use a AMD GPU on a Intel CPU ... i think you can but is there any restrictions to my CPU as far as GPU's go?

 

[smeezekitty]

and GPU's have me lost, can you use a AMD GPU on a Intel CPU ... i think you can but is there any restrictions to my CPU as far as GPU's go?

There are no issues.

 

[Stormageddon]

so then...

the ASRock Z77 Pro3 is inexpensive but what do i lose compared to the..

ASUS P8Z77-V PRO LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

or

ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX Intel Motherboard

 

[Madn3ss795]

Mostly SLI support, and some high-end connectors like esata or s-pdif/coaxial sound outputs.

 

[TheBigTroll]

if your build has a budget less than 1100 in total, you shouldnt even consider overclocking as you need to max out your GPU and include a SSD in your build.

id rather configure an entire build for you rather than just put out a board recommendation. makes things properly balanced

 

[Stormageddon]

thanks madn3ss

and could I consider Overlock in the future then?

and Ok I just want a Intel i5 - 3570k as the CPU

 

[Madn3ss795]

Yes, why not. Just spend 30$ more for a Hyper 212 EVO and you can push your 3570k to 4.5ghz in no time.

 

[TheBigTroll]

the hyper 212 evo tends to struggle beyond 4.3. most of the times it wont do it

 

[Madn3ss795]

the hyper 212 evo tends to struggle beyond 4.3. most of the times it wont do it

Sometimes it depends on your luck with the 3570k you got.

 

[smeezekitty]

the hyper 212 evo tends to struggle beyond 4.3. most of the times it wont do it

Sometimes it depends on your luck with the 3570k you got.

And the ambient temp.

 

[TheBigTroll]

its more like it really depends on your luck. ambient temps arent going to help much when your CPU is easily above 80c on a hyper 212 evo (assuming your ambient temps are around 20 and not 10c)

 

[Stormageddon]

thebigtroll you make a build yet because i'm curious and so is the hyper 212 evo good or bad?

 

[TheBigTroll]

its good but you can get better stuff. espeically with haswell having more heat, id make the upgrade to a tc12dx from phanteks

 

[Stormageddon]

id rather configure an entire build for you rather than just put out a board recommendation. makes things properly balanced

Did you configure a build?

 

[TheBigTroll]

no idea what is your budget but id get this
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/16kbS

 

[Stormageddon]

thanks

and oh a budget? I want to stay under 1 grand

why 2 hard drives? I see that 1 is SSD. Also why the Gigabyte board? and dam that is a nice gpu!

 

[Stormageddon]

and what is so great about haswell?

 

[TheBigTroll]

under a grand. you take out the overclocking and the higher end GPU
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/164AC

haswell is 10% faster.

 

[Stormageddon]

ok so i'm reading that for a new build haswell is worth it, so in the haswell direction

what about this board
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130693

 

[Stormageddon]

dam i liked your first ideal build I might wait for some of this stuff to go on sale lolz :3

 

[TheBigTroll]

msi snt great until you get to their mpower series board. their h87 boards however are fine since you cant overclock anyways