Amd Build Review

Whiteheadc37

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Hey this is just the first time i have built a computer and was just hoping you guys could take a quick review of the build I have to make sure everything is compatible with everything else. Thank you in advanced.

Processor: Amd Fx-8150
Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth 90FX R2
Ram: 8 GB (2x4gb) Corsair Vengeance (CMZ8GX3M2A1866C9R)
Hard Drive: Seagate 1 TB Hard drive 7200 RPM
Graphics Card: Sapphire Radeon 7870
Sound-card: Xonar D1
Case: NZXT Guardian (921RB-001-BL)
Power Supply: HEC 850W Power Supply (SYX-602752OH)



Purpose: I want this computer to be able to run like a normal PC without any lag or anything but also have the capabilities of running games smoothly without being a fully dedicated Gaming system. I do planning on playing games on the system and would like them to run at a somewhat reasonable speed but i am by no means making this a hardcore dedicated gaming PC. I do render videos but i am on a budget and would prefer to spend no more then $1100 for the main part of the computer (I am also paying an additional $350 in mouse + keyboard + monitor). I included the monitor information and such below and while that is up i am planning on plugging my xbox into the monitor so i don't have to buy a tv. I am debating between a lower quality asus 27" VE278Q ($250) and the well reviewed asus 24" VG248QE ($260)



UPDATED:

Processor: AMD FX-8350
MotherBoard: Asus SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard
GPU: Power Color Radeon 7970 3GB Video Card
RAM: 2x [Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory] = 16GB
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Case: Silverstone Redline Series RL03B-W-USB 3.0 ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: CoolMax 700W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V PSU
Cooling System: Cooler Master Hyper 212+ 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler

I plan on building this at the end of this week so a quick reply would be appreciated

To See the full Build (monitor, mouse, etc.) Go Here: http://us.pcpartpicker.com/user/Whiteheadc37/saved/1N5v
 

Whiteheadc37

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All information requested is added and i threw in the mouse, keyboard and monitor as a just in case sort of thing.

 

Marcopolo123

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This is way better:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus H87-PLUS ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($111.00 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($395.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($84.50 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1016.43
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-16 05:16 EDT-0400)
 

Whiteheadc37

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Thanks to the both of ya for the help. I just updated the build with some of your recommendations and here is what i am at so far:

Processor: Amd FX-8320
Motherboard: Asrock MB-970EX4 Socket AM3+/ AMD 970/ AMD Quad Crossfirex & NVidia SLI/ Sata & Usb 3.0/ A & GbE/ ATX Motherboard
Memory: 8GB G skill DDR3 PC3-170000 2133 MHz Ares Series Low Profile Dual Channel Kit
Power Supply: XFX 550 W 80 Plus Bronze Certified ATX 12V
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case (im a sucker for eye candy cases)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive

Now here are the two debates i am still going through:

1. Going with a Sapphire Radeon 7950 Graphics Card + Samsung 840 Series 120 GB SSD
OR
2. Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2gb Video Card.

Also if i could have your guy's input on which would be a better monitor i would appreciate that as well. The two monitor choices are the:

1. Asus 24" VG248QE

2. Asus 27" VE278Q

 

Whiteheadc37

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-Drop the memory. you will get no performance increase in 2133mhz ram. Grab a 1600mhz ram and save your money.
-I would prefer the 24" monitor. Has a much better stand, it will feel more solid. Also the 144hz is really nice.
 

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There's perfomance difference with higher speed memory and AMD CPUs. Also the price difference is like 10-15$. I'm a huge fan of big monitors and I would definitely go for the 27 inch one. Finally I would go for the 7970. Same perfomance, cheaper and I wouldn't combine an AMD system with an Nvidia GPU. It's kind of weird :p

Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 OC with Boost 3GB DDR5 DL-DVI-I/SL-DVI-D/HDMI/DP PCI-Express Graphics Card 11197-03-40GWhiteheadc37 check your message box!
 
Actually, the higher speed memory only works with APUs. If it's a regular AMD cpu like the FX series, it will only give negligible performance increase.
GTX 770 out-performs the 7970. However, if the OP likes the free games then the 7970 is still a viable option.
 

Marcopolo123

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Why amd cpu for gaming ?

Do you overclock?

If you plan to add a second gpu, get a gtx 770 and a 750w psu


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Asus H87-PLUS ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($111.00 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($57.11 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($57.11 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($65.63 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($329.99 @ NCIX US)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus USB-N13 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($18.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone Redline Series RL03B-W-USB 3.0 ATX Mid Tower Case ($55.90 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($75.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Microcenter)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Hannspree HL269DPB 26.0" Monitor ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Cooler Master SGM-2001-BLON1 Wired Optical Mouse ($26.85 @ Amazon)
Total: $1345.50
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-17 20:26 EDT-0400)
 
What's wrong with AMD? He's doing video rendering, so the 8cores will definitely help out.
As for the OP's build:
-I would recommend getting a 2x8gb kit instead of 2 1x8gb. If you get two single sticks separately and they won't work together for some reason, you can't RMA it or get a refund because they are not tested to work with each other.
-I would stay away from the CoolMax psu. It's very low quality and it may end up blowing up and taking out a few of your components with it. It's always smart to get a good/high quality psu no matter what. I would grab the XFX 550w because there is no point to crossfire the 7970. AMD has lots of issues with a two-way crossfire setup and you won't get the full performance due to micro-stuttering.
-Since a crossfire set-up is not recommended, you don't really need a 990FX board. The 990FX and 970 board are the same thing except the 990FX has more pcie slots so you can crossfire/sli.
-Add an extra $1 to upgrade the cpu cooler to the successor of the Hyper 212 plus, the Hyper 212 EVO.
-Case is always up to you, but I would recommend a different one.
-You can save some money by getting a 23" monitor. Personally, a 23" is already pretty big.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($194.29 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($94.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: A-Data XPG Gaming Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($65.63 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($329.99 @ NCIX US)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus USB-N13 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($18.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Microcenter)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VH238H 23.0" Monitor ($134.99 @ NCIX US)
Mouse: Cooler Master SGM-2001-BLON1 Wired Optical Mouse ($26.85 @ Amazon)
Total: $1222.65
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-17 21:29 EDT-0400)

Saves like $100 while keeping very similar performance.
 

Whiteheadc37

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Ok so adjustments to the build:

Monitor - I am open to suggestions just a few requirements are that is has a fairly fast response time, full hd, DVI + HDMI Inputs and will be good enough for me to plug my xbox into and still get a good picture from 5 or so feet away (hence the bigger size because i'l be about 5 feet away when playing xbox)

Ram: Changed this to the Corsair Dominator 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory


PSU: Changed to Cooler Master Silent Pro M2 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply
I want the power supply to have atleast 600 watts or so just in case i look to expand or something like that in the future like adding a SSD or something like that.


Changing the Hyper 212+ to the Hyper 212 Evo


Motherboard is changed to Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (about 80 bucks cheaper)

crossfire stuff is beyond me cause i have no clue about that yet though i could look into it, i am not planning on overclocking or anything like that. I have looked extensively on the processor and came to my decision to use an 8 core amd processor simply because there is no comparison to it when it comes to handling multi tasking. Both the Intel I5 and the Intel I7 are great great processors especially for gaming....but when that is all you are doing. If you are trying to game, record video and livestream, record audio, and maybe say talk on skype all at once the best bet is undoubtedly the amd which has been proven. (In single tasks Intel wins no doubt but when it comes to handling numerous things at once the 8 cores really shine).

Finally the case. The case itself really just has to be compatible with my parts and the major thing it must have is eye candy. I do not want a case that looks like a stupid block *cough Corsair 200R cough* I want it to look cool with something like an LED light or something like that to make it look friggin awesome, while having good airflow and being compatible of course. So if you have a suggestion on a case i am more than open to this as well.

EDIT: I swear i didn't mean to insult your suggestion of the 200R I seriously type my response before looking at your case recommandations so I apologize if it came out that way.

New Stuff: http://us.pcpartpicker.com/user/Whiteheadc37/saved/1N5v
 
I would first off like to mention that streaming, gaming and skyping can all be done better on an i5. Those things aren't that cpu heavy. However, you said you render videos, and that's where the 8cores shines. The i7 will actually render videos better, as it is an i5 with hyper threading, effectively having 8cores as well. But of course, AMD is cheaper and better for your budget build.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($194.29 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($99.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Corsair Dominator 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($87.63 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($395.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus USB-N13 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($18.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman ZM-Z9 U3 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($88.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Microcenter)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Hannspree HL272HPB 27.0" Monitor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Mouse: Cooler Master SGM-2001-BLON1 Wired Optical Mouse ($26.85 @ Amazon)
Total: $1379.65
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-18 02:21 EDT-0400)

-Removed cpu cooler since you're not overclocking. If you do plan to overclock, add it in before you do.
-Upgraded to a 2tb HDD for an extra $7.
-GTX 770 is stronger than the 7970. However, if you want the free games with the 7970 then grab that instead.
-Another case suggestion. The cable management on this case isn't too good but it should be better than the case you listed.'
-Higher quality psu.
-Slightly bigger monitor with faster response time.
 

Whiteheadc37

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Decided to go with your suggestion as far as PSU and monitor goes, looked into cases a bit and hopefully found a solid one with some extra cooling. I prefer to keep the cooling system in there just in case and i added in some fans. It is a bit more then I wanted but i want to be sure that everything stays cool, and it runs like i want it too.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/17FEh
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/17FEh/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/17FEh/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($99.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($112.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($395.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus USB-N13 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($18.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master R4-L2S-122B-GP 39.8 CFM 120mm Fans ($5.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master Megaflow 110.0 CFM 200mm Fan ($11.92 @ Outlet PC)
Case Fan: Cooler Master Megaflow 110.0 CFM 200mm Fan ($11.92 @ Outlet PC)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($88.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Microcenter)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Hannspree HL272HPB 27.0" Monitor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Mouse: Cooler Master SGM-2001-BLON1 Wired Optical Mouse ($26.85 @ Amazon)
Total: $1415.03
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-18 05:26 EDT-0400)


Reverted back to 1 TB to cut the cost a bit and because memory is really cheap. Other than that I am hoping this will be the final solid build I go with
 

Whiteheadc37

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Ok sounds good. Thank you for all the help and suggestions. Being my first build i was a little unsure about how everything worked together but I feel like this build will be really great and last me a few years so Thank you for all the helps and suggestions