mobo selection help

[dylanthedude]

ASRock Z87
Extreme6
Asus
Z87 Pro
ECS Z87H3-A2X
Extreme
Gigabyte
Z87X-UD4H
MSI Z87-GD65
Gaming

First time build.
Would like to be able to improve the system further down the road. Running low on money so I will be buying piece by piece. So far I have haf x case with silent pro 800w gold and I will be getting i5 4670k. I won't be getting ssd or seperate GPU until way down the road and I would still like to run games like lol torchlight 2 diablo 3 and similar titles running just off my haswell integrated gpu. Will I need to get a mobo with on board GPU as well that integrates with CPU GPU in order to play high fps in games mentioned? Would like a good mobo recommendation I'm looking to spend no more than 250$ on a mobo. And like I say I want everything I get for this build to have room to be upgraded. The above mentioned mobo at the top of this thread were some seemingly nice sized for what I'm looking for. Need advice though.I won't be doing any water cooling or OC right off but possibly in the future. This is a strictly gaming PC build BTW.

I would also like to add that my case has no fan control so having a mobo with a good fan control would be nice. I will have 6 fans in my case I believe.

 

[sourodip]

the MSI-GD65 is the clear winner and seems to be the best.It's the best for gaming...

 

[younes-ea]

the MSI-GD65 is the clear winner and seems to be the best.It's the best for gaming...

indeed it's the best for the price

 

[sourodip]

yup and the best too for gaming

 

[younes-ea]

yup and the best too for gaming

Yup. I love the msi motherboards

 

[sourodip]

hmm,thanks

 

[dylanthedude]

And what about onboard GPUs that work with the haswell GPU? Will I get better performance from the combo?

 

[younes-ea]

If you want performance go with an amd or nvidia card. the onboard grapics is not the best on the haswell

 

[dylanthedude]

Will onboard work for diablo 3 torchlight 2 and lol? I won't have money for GPU until further down the road. Also, what the difference in the MSI Intel z77 and MSI Intel z87?

 

[dylanthedude]

How much room is there for upgrade on the MSI compared to the Asus pro for example?

 

[younes-ea]

The 87 is better in performance but i think you can play it but with a fps of 10 . Consider the amd grapics thay are cheap look at this one : http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/7000/7770/Pages/radeon-7770.aspx#2
What is you budget for a good grapics card

 

[sourodip]

a gpu onboard of i5-4670k would run those with low settings quite comfortably.otherwise go with something like hd7770 and better like hd7850 or hd7870 or gtx650ti boost/gtx760(upcoming)

 

[dylanthedude]

A good friend who motivated me to start my own build has a 3rd gen Ivy bridge i5 on a Asus mobo with 8g of ram and no separate gpu and he's getting 80+ fps in lol could I expect better with MSI?

 

[younes-ea]

A good friend who motivated me to start my own build has a 3rd gen Ivy bridge i5 on a Asus mobo with 8g of ram and no desperate gpu and he's getting 80+ fps in lol could I expect better with MSI?

You will get almost the same performance. But the asus is better. And how many monitors does he heave. And lol is an online game it needs a better cpu and not an gpu. That why he is getting 80+ fps

 

[dylanthedude]

If there was 1 company to give MSI a run for the their money in the category I need them for who would it be?
Also, does MSI have a decent fan control through the mobo interface?

 

[younes-ea]

If there was 1 company to give MSI a run for the their money in the category I need them for who would it be?
Also, does MSI have a decent fan control through the mobo interface?

Some msi mobo's have a fan control you need to check this on there website. My case has an inbuid fan control

 

[dylanthedude]

He only has one monitor. What makes Asus better? The motherboard is something I don't want to have to buy again. I need it to be high quality and future proof for some time to come. These new maximus mobos by Asus.. what do you know about them? Are they worth the 50$ extra bucks over MSI?

 

[sourodip]

well it's not only with the msi mobo,the max. cooperation is of his gpu's.get the msi mobo and a decent card like the gtx760 which would be releasing in 4-5 days,otherwise go for the hd7870

 

[younes-ea]

He only has one monitor. What makes Asus better? The motherboard is something I don't want to have to buy again. I need it to be high quality and future proof for some time to come. These new maximus mobos by Asus.. what do you know about them? Are they worth the 50$ extra bucks over MSI?

The msi and asus heve both good motherboards/ thay are both fureproof but if you want an even better motherboard then asus look at this one for msi: Z87-G45-GAMING.
And i'm playing at 3 screens that why he gets a 80+ fps

 

[dylanthedude]

I see I see. What's a comparable Asus mobo against that MSI you listed? Thx for all the help BTW guys

 

[younes-ea]

I see I see. What's a comparable Asus mobo against that MSI you listed? Thx for all the help BTW guys

Only the highest asus mobo will come close. All the others are much weaker then this one
highest asus mobo: MAXIMUS V FORMULA
But the asus has one thing in there maximus that msi does not have: water cooled heatsinks

 

[dylanthedude]

How big of a deal is water cooled heatsinks? Also, what is the difference in the MSI z87g45 and the MSI z87 gd65

 

[younes-ea]

How big of a deal is water cooled heatsinks? Also, what is the difference in the MSI z87g45 and the MSI z87 gd65

Well if you are overclocking you cpu by a lot then it a very big difference and the z87gd65 is slightly faster eith some more options.

 

[dylanthedude]

So it sounds like my best option is probably the MSI gd65 then? Because the performance bonus you may get from Asus mainly comes from crazy over clocking? OC isn't a big deal to me cause I've never done it and it probably won't be necessary with what I intend on doing.

 

[younes-ea]

So it sounds like my best option is probably the MSI gd65 then? Because the performance bonus you may get from Asus mainly comes from crazy over clocking? OC isn't a big deal to me cause I've never done it and it probably won't be necessary with what I intend on doing.

It totally depends on your preference