Has Tom's Officially sided with Ivy Bridge over Haswell? Is it Justified?

[hasky620]

Between the June edition of "Best Gaming CPU's For the Money" choosing the i5-3570K over the i5-4570K and the lack-luster review given in "The Core i7-4770K Review: Haswell Is Faster; Desktop Enthusiasts Yawn" it seems clear that Tom's isn't going to be siding with Haswell anytime soon.

My question is to the people who have a Haswell CPU, do you think that they judged too soon? Do the new Haswell features make up for lower "overclockability?"

 

[ingtar33]

i think the problem is price. Tom's cpu guide is "best cpu for the money"... Haswell is more expensive for almost 0% gain in gaming performance (seriously, there is like a 1fps difference in almost every game benched). Its hard to advise anyone pay more for a platform which shows almost no gain in gaming performance.

 

[MajinCry]

i think the problem is price. Tom's cpu guide is "best cpu for the money"... Haswell is more expensive for almost 0% gain in gaming performance (seriously, there is like a 1fps difference in almost every game benched). Its hard to advise anyone pay more for a platform which shows almost no gain in gaming performance.

It may be hard, but there sure are droves of people who do so.

*Sigh*

 

[ingtar33]

i think the problem is price. Tom's cpu guide is "best cpu for the money"... Haswell is more expensive for almost 0% gain in gaming performance (seriously, there is like a 1fps difference in almost every game benched). Its hard to advise anyone pay more for a platform which shows almost no gain in gaming performance.

It may be hard, but there sure are droves of people who do so.

*Sigh*

frankly the only reason they stopped recommending the i5-2500k is because the i5-3570k was released at the same MSRP. And the only reason they went to the 3570k was because they don't count overclocking in that list (the 2500k overclocks better then the 3570k, so much so, that any performance gain from IB was basically wiped out by the higher overclocked on the SB)... and at stock the IB was slightly faster then the SB. Since they were the same price that made the change in recommendation easy. Its not so easy this time... as at stock there is almost no difference... and the 4670k is almost $40 more expensive. dealbreaker.

 

[jaguarskx]

Generally speaking, the i5-4670k offers on average a 5% increase in performance over the i5-3570k. Based on prices over at Newegg.com, the i5-3570k is $220. From the perspective of the just performance increase (excluding overclocking and other new features in Haswell), a 5% increase in price to reflect that performance gain means that the i5-4670k should be selling for $231. However, the i5-4670k is selling for $240 after a $10 instant rebate. That means while the performance increased by 5%, the price increased by 9% or $11. Without the $10 instant rebate, the price increase is about 13.6% or $30.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116899


Of course, there are deals out there that can sweeten the deal for Haswell. For example, purchasing the following Asus Z87-PLUS for $180 give you 8GB (2 x 4GB) of free Crucial DDR3 1600MHz RAM ($70 value). However, not everyone wants that motherboard, and there are cheaper Z87 chipset motherboards as well. The cheapest one listed on Newegg is the MSI Z87-G41 for $109. Add in the cost of the Crucial RAM and you are back up to $180.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131980

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130695

Naturally, the Asus mobo is better than the MSI mobo and in the end if you are paying the same price, you might as well go with the Asus mobo combo. Of course, there are also less expensive 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM as well.

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If you are fortunate enough to live near a MicroCenter, then you can pickup an i5-4670k for $200 at the store. That's a savings of almost 9% or $20 vs the i5-3570k from Newegg. Of course, that is before taxes. Since I know of no city off the top of head that charges more than 9% sales tax, at worse that means the i5-4670k from MicroCenter + tax will equal the price of the i5-3570k from Newegg.

http://www.microcenter.com/site/brands/intel-processor-bundles.aspx

 

[hasky620]

Thank you very much for your detailed answer. I love Asus motherboards so I will definitely keep those combo options in mind when it comes time to purchase

I planned on getting a i7 3770K for my gaming/CAD crossover computer and then overclock it with the DH-14 to as near to 4.5 GHz as I can get stable. Do you think that this is wise or should I plan on using the i7 4770K if overclock-ability not price is the major factor?( I will have access to MicroCenter just for reference. )

 

[Intel God]

There's no point in buying ivy over Haswell. None at all.