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Windows RT Facing Same Fate as webOS?

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June 22, 2013 9:23:55 AM

A lot of us don't see the reason to use RT. The prices for Atom tablets have dropped to where some of them are cheaper than RT tablets, and those can run our Windows applications

I do see that Windows RT was a good idea overall because you have the OS ported over to another CPU. It would be good for an embedded OS, but as far as tablets go, x86 tablets might be better
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June 22, 2013 9:29:07 AM

was there ever any doubt? :lol: 
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June 22, 2013 9:59:57 AM

As expected
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June 22, 2013 10:59:47 AM

Windows 8 is only a symptom of arrogance within MS...
We saw it with Xbox too, but for some reason they were quick to fix that, why not win8 too?
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June 22, 2013 11:54:32 AM

Android runs on atom based smartphones without fuss. No application faces compatibility issues. How could be so different when it comes to windows?
I'm really interested on knowing this. It's known that google never made x86 version of android officially. So did Atom start reading ARM instruction set out of the blue?
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June 22, 2013 12:21:26 PM

I'm still trying to figure out how Steve Ballmer is still the CEO of Microsoft. Please fire this douche bag. He is clearly out of touch with the way things Should and have worked this day in age.
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June 22, 2013 12:28:18 PM

Windows 8 honestly is what Microsoft Deserves. It's what they get for not listening to their own in-house test engineers for all of those years, their own developers, etc. Their design engineers do NOT know better. They sometimes do have great ideas sure but as in this case; way left field. Might be great in strictly the RT standpoint but they pushed so many people out of it that they don't even wanna try it. Plus Android is so well established right now, I really wounder why they even want to try to compete in that water. I actually have an RT tablet. They gave them away as door prizes once at Best Buy I think it was, maybe some other store, for something... Cause they couldn't sell them. I booted it up. Ehh... Even my grandparents don't want it. Now that's bad. Eventually I'll get around to wiping it and putting some flavor of something else on it but... If I can.
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June 22, 2013 12:41:02 PM

I am surprised. NOT.

Windows RT is the ugly of windows, namely Metro, without the good, that is, the applications.
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June 22, 2013 12:58:08 PM

I'm so pissed at MS these days. I was one of their biggest supporters and after the crap Win8 and initial Xbox plans I just can't stand by them any longer. Yea, they changed their mind but DAMAGE done. Why the heck isn't there a fix out for Win8 start screen and start menu yet? Why are they dumbing things down to the point I don't even want to use the OS any more? I live to customize and enhance my system. They are brining computing to the idiots and throwing out the power users.....DONE with it.
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June 22, 2013 1:25:58 PM

Agreed with the above comments.
There is a perfect middle ground but instead they straddled it losing their strengths. I was excited that maybe they used some real talent and developed a true breakthrough that used one extremely well written and virtualized OS to span multiple hardware types. Instead of true innovation we got four ecosystems out of Win8. I think Canical's Ubuntu, a company with 1/1000th the budget is bridging this gap better.
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June 22, 2013 2:42:31 PM

This article is a blank invitation for the anti-ms trolls to come out. Maybe 1 in 10 responses will be well reasoned.
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June 22, 2013 3:46:01 PM

I've got an HP Touchpad & love WebOS. Sometimes the best OS doesn't win. Windows 8 has the best browser of any tablet platform & I would be sad to see it go.
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June 22, 2013 4:53:00 PM

@lockhrt999: Android apps in general don't use native code, they're Java-like. Only the OS needs to be compiled for a specific CPU architecture.
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June 22, 2013 5:51:26 PM

do i smell a fire sale coming?
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June 22, 2013 6:16:30 PM

I used an RT tablet for months - GREAT device seriously

i take it no one here has *EVER* used one
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June 22, 2013 6:48:05 PM

I also purchased a windows RT device (Lenovo Yoga 11) and i do have to say im extremely happy with it. Who the hell uses anything that cant be run within a web browser these days on a portable device anyways? Its battery life is unbeatable and the flexibility of a hybrid laptop-tablet is awesome to have. Im definitely in the upper echelon of power users which is why i have a monster rig to handle my heavy computing needs, but as for mobile and what most people use laptops/tablets for anyways (web/youtube, word processing, movie playback) they are great devices.
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June 22, 2013 7:09:55 PM

defender0802 said:
...but as for mobile and what most people use laptops/tablets for anyways (web/youtube, word processing, movie playback) they are great devices.


As long as the price is appropriate (oh, say, no more than $600...$700 at most...for such stated low-end uses....
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June 22, 2013 7:10:08 PM

memadmax said:
Windows 8 is only a symptom of arrogance within MS...
We saw it with Xbox too, but for some reason they were quick to fix that, why not win8 too?

I take it you didn't even see the title about Window RT and randomly put ssome hate comment about Windows 8 and Xbox one?

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June 22, 2013 7:53:15 PM

until MS Office is released on Android. NO.

Free MS Office on WIN RT , is the big factor of buying a WIN RT Tablet.

people who want to run "applications" should get a i5 ulv Tablet. Atoms are slow.
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June 22, 2013 8:09:26 PM

THG is just full of FUDD these days
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June 22, 2013 8:55:41 PM

memadmax said:
Windows 8 is only a symptom of arrogance within MS...
We saw it with Xbox too, but for some reason they were quick to fix that, why not win8 too?

Because its DRM scheme are ambiguous and more likely intended to test the water and see how the market and their competitor reacts.

Windows 8 is good at it is while not perfect. dumbed down Metro search irks me and Metro (dis)integration between Desktop and Metro apps are ugly.

Windows 8 sans Metro is just like Windows 7.1 and dumb from marketing perspective.
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June 22, 2013 9:47:32 PM

[I also purchased a windows RT device (Lenovo Yoga 11) and i do have to say im extremely happy with it. Who the hell uses anything that cant be run within a web browser these days on a portable device anyways? Its battery life is unbeatable and the flexibility of a hybrid laptop-tablet is awesome to have.]

Actually Atom based W8 tablet can do everything RT tablet does, has same or better battery life, extremely light (lighter than ipad2), has equal or better processing power than RT tablet, and has x86 compatibility. There is really no place for a RT tablet unless RT devices can do things a lot more better, or sells at a price a lot cheaper. MS should have offer RT OS for free so that RT devices sells at price range compatibile than the $200 segment Android tablets.
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June 22, 2013 10:00:49 PM

Microsoft should have executed their launch of RT and W8 like this:
(1) Launch x86 W8 tablet first in the market, let the customers have a more useful tablets that can run all existing applications, and then wait for the "Metro" apps to be developed.
(2) Create a Surface tablet based on Atom to address the battery life and weight concerns for the x86 W8 tablet. For those who wants ipad like battery life and weight, this is the model they can go for. Sell this at price comparable to iPad.
(3) When there are enough useful "Metro" apps already available (including MS own, such as Outlook), then launch the ARM based variant of Surface. This segment should target the $200 Android segment, which should be achievable as they use the same hardware. This will mean RT OS is likely to be free of charge.
You do not want your competitors to be able to entrenched in any price segment. Especially the low end if you want your OS to be the dominant OS, not a niche OS. I am sure some MS executive would have thought of this, but the leadership in MS must have thought otherwise. And this shows MS leadership is making huge business mistakes and there is still no sign of they will change their mind. As of now, the future of MS does not look so great.
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June 23, 2013 4:52:02 AM

its still doing better then chrome os lol. 500 000 units in 2 years compared to over a million surface rt's in 6 months.

just more media fluff. title should read chrome os heading same was as web os.
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June 23, 2013 4:58:24 AM

still its well known that kevin parrish is a apple fanboy so hes always keen to point out everyone else's faults while putting apple on a pedestal.

move along ppl nothing to read here.
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June 23, 2013 5:29:22 AM

still its well known that kevin parrish is a apple fanboy so hes always keen to point out everyone else's faults while putting apple on a pedestal.

move along ppl nothing to read here.
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June 23, 2013 6:05:03 AM

Well... new tablets is on their way, and the sales are wrong. Windows tablets and phones are upgoing still.
Tho I think that RT is unneeded, when we have Win8 Pro.
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June 23, 2013 4:38:36 PM

Well i'm using one for work, and so are a lot of my peers. I think the RT is great for a business tool. Easy to integrate compared with an iPad, and has all the tools i need to work effectively. It's not for everyone or every task, but does the job it was designed to do very well.
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June 23, 2013 4:39:16 PM

Don't see the point of Windows RT and Windows Phone as a separate OS. They rely on the same pool of hardware and software. Realistically there should have never been a Windows RT.
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June 23, 2013 5:57:08 PM

falchard said:
Don't see the point of Windows RT and Windows Phone as a separate OS. They rely on the same pool of hardware and software. Realistically there should have never been a Windows RT.


Why not? I am personally sick of Intel and want ARM to take its place ...

in few years , the ARM will start competing with Intel. and MS are smart having an OS that supports ARM

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June 23, 2013 9:06:40 PM

MS used to own the mobile platform (along with Symbian). After iPhone first released, MS took too long to respond and let the iOS and Android took over the market. After seeing the success of Apple, MS attempted (IMO) to copy Apple's business model including arrogant attitude of Apple. It turned out to be a major failure. Windows RT or WP may be the better devices (on its own), but the ecosystem still cannot compare to iOS or Android. The market is already saturated, unless MS can do something revolutionary, there won't be any chance for Windows RT or WP to succeed.
The only chance for MS is to expand x86 platform to mobile and stops being arrogant like Apple.
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June 23, 2013 9:21:28 PM

The day you fail is the day you stop listening to your customers. Microsoft has done that. They took the star button away when most said they wanted it. They tried to make the new Xbox require a connection and said if you don't like it buy a 360. And last, and the one I like the best, they try to make me pay for this gold crap just to watch my Netflix THAT I'M ALREADY PAYING FOR. Keep thinking you know better and keep watching your sales fall.
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June 24, 2013 4:31:05 AM

With the lower cost for Atom (x86) processors being able to run Windows 8 Pro, and the release of Intel's Haswell platform this year providing good performance/long battery life (x86) devices to run Windows 8 Pro laptops, tablets and hybrid devices there really is no need for the Windows RT platform.

The Windows RT platform was so that Microsoft could offer a comparable ARM platform device in the tablet market which would mirror iOS/Android devices for battery life knowing that the x86 hardware was not yet ready to compete.

We should see an increase of hybrid and tablet devices running Windows 8 Pro in the coming months that will be much more competitive with Android/iOS. Personally, I will be looking to drop my ASUS Infinity for a Surface Pro 2 if Microsoft releases that form factor with a Intel Haswell, thinner design and longer battery life.
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