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dogman_1234 :
This whole thing is a clusterfuck!
Really, a slippery slope. We could go back to Bush, Clinton, Carter, Kennedy if you want. The blame really lies within us, the American people. We allow the government to scare us into surveilance programs. We allow high school drop-out look at our most peronal information. We allow guys like Snowden to go about their ways and tell the world what we do as a nation.
The blame lies within the American people. Who do you fear most? Terrorists of the Beureaucracy? Do we allow our fellow Americans to be put in harms way so we don't have an intrusive government, or do we allow things like the USA PATRIOT ACT, Homeland Security, TSA, and the NSA to happen so we can live peacfully?
Did you know that the vast majority of Microsoft and Google employees are high school drop outs? Did you know both companies also do not have drug testing policies?
I did not. However, I learned this Fall that Boeing has a technical training program for High School Gruaduates and GED's Heard it pays well more tham min wage.
If these kids are being paid more than I am, why am I pursuing a degree anyways? Seems like a waste of time. Thoughts?
Engineers are trained to think a certain way. It's more of an elite group of thinking than anything else. That's the the title engineer earns you. In IT, you have System Administrators and System Engineers. Big difference between being an administrator and an engineer. The thinking process is completely different.
You don't need a degree to be financially successful. That's the biggest lie being told to the younger generations. While places want degrees, it's more of an ideaology than anything else. My father worked in a nuclear power plant with a high school diploma. When he retired, they were bringing in people with college degrees and he had to spend his last few years training them. The degree was unnecessary as someone still had to train them.
What happened to being an apprentice in a job role and learning it that way? Now we cookie cut everyone through colleges and universities and expect them to perform. No one is there to really help them.
Look like exercising. You get a personal trainer who customizes a workout for you, not everyone. It works great because of the individual time spent.
Working in IT, you advance through the fields and have to put the time in. You don't leave college and make $100k a year with a degree. You have to work the trenches to get a real understanding before you can move up.
For your engineering degree (Which is it? mechanical, conrtols, civil, electrical, etc.) you'll be an intern, they'll give you work, and after a year or two of being an intern you might get hired on as an E1. In a year or two, you might advance up to an E2. By the time you're in your mid to late 30s, you might be an E5 or E6. My buddy is a control engineer and amazing at his job. He was an E6 in his late 30s, while in his 40s he has moved into project management. He has his run of the mill local college degree that he was able to pay off quickly. I think he knocked down $140k two years ago. Might break $100k this year. He's also seen a lot of his coworkers laid off because of the line of work. They don't tell you that engineers get laid off a lot, especially in this economy for the last 10 years or so.
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