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UK Man in Jail for Threatening School Shooting on Facebook

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July 10, 2013 4:06:23 AM

Good for the UK! That guy should have been locked up, and they did the right thing.
One question though.... what's this doing on a tech site?
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July 10, 2013 4:09:52 AM

SO basicly, if you use facebook, the FBI knows everything. Nice, it dosent even seem like they try to hide it anymore.
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July 10, 2013 5:10:24 AM

Certainly cats__Paw. The likely the scenario here is that the FBI was monitoring this facebook page, not that someone associated with a school of 3000 kids saw the posts and contacted the local authorities.
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July 10, 2013 5:38:42 AM

Sad to hear folks making statements like that to our future generation. Not sure how the FBI heard about it but guessing this kinda stuff is reported on a blotter somewhere that is up channeled. Or local authorities/citizen reported it and thus making it a federal offense? Either way good to have the FBI & Metropolitan Police Service taking positive reaction.
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July 10, 2013 6:47:35 AM

What's more disturbing than the arrest itself, is the citizens' support of it, as witness the comments above mine.
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July 10, 2013 7:19:20 AM

What ever happened to free speech or the Bill of Rights, I don't condone what this person has done, but when people type something on a blog or facebook message, its called free speech. If he had acted on his words, then that is something entirely different.
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July 10, 2013 7:43:07 AM

buzzrattie said:
What ever happened to free speech or the Bill of Rights, I don't condone what this person has done, but when people type something on a blog or facebook message, its called free speech. If he had acted on his words, then that is something entirely different.


Not if it breaks the ToS of the website or blog site and certainly not if it breaks the law of the land. You might want to check out the legals of that before you reply.
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July 10, 2013 9:14:22 AM

This proves two things:

1) Nothing on Facebook is private. If you even think it is, you're an idiot. They will find out, track it, etc. That's why I got off Facebook when they changed their privacy policy a few years back. Don't need it. And yes, the FBI, etc. has sniffers to find this type of stuff specifically. This, political threats, national threats, etc. And not just on Facebook...
2) Some idiots really deserve to get busted. Seriously?!? Let's just threaten a bunch of kids. In what universe is that ever cool?!? Ever?!? Anywhere?!? You double-dumb-@$#... Sit and rot... Turning yourself in should just possibly prevent the needle, but you should still sit for more then 2 years IMHO.
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July 10, 2013 9:17:00 AM

Mousemonkey said:
buzzrattie said:
What ever happened to free speech or the Bill of Rights, I don't condone what this person has done, but when people type something on a blog or facebook message, its called free speech. If he had acted on his words, then that is something entirely different.


Not if it breaks the ToS of the website or blog site and certainly not if it breaks the law of the land. You might want to check out the legals of that before you reply.


And not only that; but the UK doesn't have a bill of rights or a constitution as the US does that I am aware of; so that's about the dumbest argument I've ever heard TBH...
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July 10, 2013 10:28:28 AM

The legality isn't in question, what he did was illegal. But does anyone honestly believe he was planning to do it? He was trolling. This happens all the time; people capitalize on the tragedy of others to get a laugh.

Being robotic about the law and interpreting by the letter is irrational. There are extenuating circumstances that no written law could ever hope to cover for any given situation. So yeah, the kid is an idiot, but he doesn't deserve two years in prison for being an idiot. That will probably make him into a criminal, if not embitter him. Kneejerk reactions ftw I guess.
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July 10, 2013 10:34:01 AM

This guy would be free if he lived in the US. Since there was no way for him to carry out the threat making it a simple statement and would mean that it falls under free speech.
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July 10, 2013 11:23:07 AM

buzzrattie said:
What ever happened to free speech or the Bill of Rights, I don't condone what this person has done, but when people type something on a blog or facebook message, its called free speech. If he had acted on his words, then that is something entirely different.


Just like the freedom of speech doesnt cover yelling "fire" in a crowded theater, Im pretty sure it also doesnt cover threats to murder a bunch of kids at school.
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July 10, 2013 12:10:59 PM

People need to learn that their statements carry consequences and that they cannot hide just because the people you are talking about are not standing face to face with you. And trying to say he should have been able to hide behind Freedom of Speech in the US just tells me that the people saying this have no real clue what that freedom actually means. I would guess that was a failure of the US school systems because I doubt those same people will take responsibility for their mistaken belief.
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July 10, 2013 12:27:02 PM

but did he say 'jk lol' afterward because if so the case is bullshit it was onlly a joke.
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July 10, 2013 12:28:24 PM

Seems the american's influenced this quite a lot. If you do GPH (Grievous Bodily Harm) then most only get 2 years.
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July 10, 2013 1:16:28 PM

“Freedom of speech does not protect you from the consequences of saying stupid shit.”
― Jim C. Hines
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