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How's This Build for Gaming? $1k Budget

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July 10, 2013 8:55:47 AM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1fcsR
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1fcsR/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1fcsR/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.98 @ Outlet PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.39 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($98.69 @ Mac Mall)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($259.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.73 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1017.72
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-10 12:24 EDT-0400)

No MicroCenter, please, unless it can be ordered online. Anyway, how's this build look? I'm buying build today and $1,050.00 is my max. budget.
I've been told EVGA 760 2G is better than MSI & I researched some charts and it appears to also get more FPS than the MSI GPU. Any suggestions?

Where some charts were: http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/57545-msi-geforc...

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a b 4 Gaming
July 10, 2013 9:17:27 AM

Drop the i5 4670k to an i5 3570k, save you some money and you'll get a better overclock.
I would recommend getting an extreme4 it's really the same price and makes things a bit less difficult.
The vengeance RAM is a bit expensive, you could look at this:
Memory: A-Data XPG Gaming Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg) , same performance better price.
As for your video card, I really don't like EVGA, they've been behind the curve for a while now, and really don't amaze me, while the MSI card performs a bit better, overclocks better, and you'll get a little bit more performance out of it.
Now at the bottom, this can be your decision but I would really not recommend you get Windows 8, it's a pain in the ass to use, and has no benefits from windows 7.

Otherwise everything checks out just fine, hope this helps.
July 10, 2013 9:24:19 AM

Ok, I switched the 4670k to the 3570k and I switched MOBO to the Extreme 4.

I looked up MSI vs EVGA & the EVGA was better in pretty much everything (FPS-wise).
Could you put up an argument, URL's, or something to show to me how it's better?
Thank-you!
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a b 4 Gaming
July 10, 2013 10:04:04 AM

The following pros and cons are there for 4670K -

1) It is of newer generation so it uses less energy. Pro
2) It is 10% faster overall in everything. Pro
3) It overclocks up to 4.4 GHz with minimal to no problems with Hyper 212 EVO. Pro
4) It costs $15 more. Con
5) It requires a newer socket so if you want to upgrade to 5th Gen in future you should have the chance to do so without changing motherboard as 5th Generation CPUs should also use LGA 1150 socket (Intel should not change sockets so often). Pro

The following are pros and cons of 3570K -

1) It uses more power. Con
2) It is of older generation. Con
3) It overclocks up to 4.8 GHz on air cooling. Pro
4) It costs $15 lesser. Pro
5) Vice versa of #5 above. Con
6) It is 10% slower in everything. Con

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So, the conclusion is that stock 4670K is 10% faster than stock 3570K. Suppose we overclock 3570K and it becomes equal of 4670K for $15 less. At that time we have to keep in mind that 4670K can also be overclocked to 4.4 GHz which gets it the lead again.

Both the CPUs are good enough for their prices. If you ask me, I would recommend shedding $15 more and getting 4670K.

Same goes for motherboard. Instead of getting ASRock Z77 Extreme4, get ASRock Z87 Extreme3 to save some money there.
Motherboard does not matter in gaming builds and Z87 Extreme3 is a fantastic board for a reasonable price.

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As far as video card matters, there are certain qualities of each video card -

EVGA - Relatively higher clock rates which means more FPS and performance. Con is that its not the quietest known.
Inno3D - Very good cooling. Con is that its not as fast as EVGA.
MSI - Good cooling and cheap price. Con is again that it is not as fast as EVGA.

Now for the sake of sanity let us leave out the noise and cooling thing here and focus on the power and clock speed of cards.
In that case, EVGA comes out on top and is the strongest of them all (Which is why you saw highest FPS for EVGA).

If you want a balance of cooling and performance, get MSI.
July 10, 2013 10:27:33 AM

My cooler will help with the heat, right?

Edited build:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1fdAR
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1fdAR/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1fdAR/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($225.49 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($137.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.39 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($96.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($259.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1024.78
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-10 13:27 EDT-0400)
a b 4 Gaming
July 10, 2013 10:31:23 AM

Your cooler would of course keep things very cool and would let you overclock that CPU to 4.4 GHz to its max. Don't be disappointed if you don't get past 4.2 GHz (Remember, 200 MHz difference does not mean anything) since Haswell is not a good overclocker but is already fast enough so it does not need overclocking. :) 
July 10, 2013 10:50:48 AM

Does this build look good enough to FINALLY buy, haha?
Is the Samsung SSD good?
& what about the case? Is the Corsair 300R or Antec One better/roomier/more air flow?
a b 4 Gaming
July 10, 2013 12:25:14 PM

Corsair 300R is better ... But I would not say Antec is terrible.
Corsair has better airflow.

Samsung 840 SSD is very good too. Best value for money.

And yes, its FINALLY good enough to buy ... I must say you are one heck of a researcher. :p 
July 10, 2013 1:09:45 PM

Will they both fit everything that I'm buying?
& thank-you, ha. I like to make sure I'm getting the best for the money I can spend.
I know I could get the Radeon, but it's over my budget on what I'd like to spend.
a b 4 Gaming
July 10, 2013 1:12:39 PM

They would fit everything that you are buying. :) 

And no problem with 7970. That is just your own decision and financial issues. GTX 760 is also a very awesome video card.
Sadly I do not have the money to buy either of these or I would have bought a better video card too.
July 10, 2013 1:17:02 PM

Can I ask what your build is?
a b 4 Gaming
July 10, 2013 1:28:03 PM

This is what I have -

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H77-DS3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($95.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($71.37 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 6850 1GB Video Card ($153.23 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 311 (Blue) ATX Mid Tower Case ($35.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Cooler Master eXtreme Power 600W ATX12V Power Supply ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $688.54
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-10 16:27 EDT-0400)

Nothing to be ashamed off ... But still I believe the system is very powerful. Just the video card is weak (I can not afford a better one so have to live with it for now haha) ... :) 

The fun thing is that this build crossed $1000 budget in India when I was buying stuff.
July 10, 2013 1:36:13 PM

Nice!

Question: Now, what's the best way to buy all of this stuff from like 4 different sites? I wish I could order it all at once.
& would you say the Fractal R4 has better air flow than Corsair 300r? Or how do they compare?

Edit: Ah, shoot. I need to take off $20. Any suggestions?
a b 4 Gaming
July 10, 2013 1:43:18 PM

Fractal Design R4 has the best airflow out of all Mid Tower Cases.
Its the most successful case so far due to its quietness and awesome airflow.

And you have to order them from the respective websites. If you order them all at the same time they would ship individual parts within 2-3 days and within a week you should have everything at your home.
July 10, 2013 1:45:46 PM

Ah, shoot. I need to take off $20. Any suggestions?
a b 4 Gaming
July 10, 2013 1:53:11 PM

Well nothing. We all already squeezed down everything to its bare minimum. Reducing price further would cause performance drops which we do not want.

You have to spend $20 more. :p 
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