opinions needed for a first time pc build

[Michael Shunsby]

Hello,
i am very interested in doing a home built pc for playing high end games.
i was looking at tiger direct and found this combo diy kit

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8147876&sku=B69-0893

and the graphics card


http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4501133&sku=E145-0667

and windows 8 os.

would this setup be any good? any insight will be appreciated

 

[Michael Shunsby]

No need for a b-ray.
neither a windows 8.
Nor do I prefer a fx8350 AMD.

GPU chipset selection is ok.
ASUS is preferred regarding cooling and performance wise.

So your budget is like 650 Dollars. right?
I suggest you to make a PC and not to buy one.

This kit comes with all the individual parts to build it. its not pre built.

the total for all this plus a cpu cooler and some cables (forgot to mention above)
is $1227 with tax and shipping.

 

[Michael Shunsby]

i really want somthing top notch that will be able to handle almost anything

 

[Michael Shunsby]

i really want somthing top notch that will be able to handle almost anything

Did you go through my previous post?
i5 4670k is way over "top-notch".
Dont think having a frigging 8 core will help you.
NEVER!!.
Gaming relies on single core performance which an i5 has it sufficiently(more than enough)
And the main thing is the GPU.
770 was released on may2013 and newer cards and drivers affect gaming a lot.
and 770 is a top notch card right now. its Like the 4th best out here.
So, close your eyes and buy the above setup.

yeah i did, but if i can get 8 cores for the same price as 4, im gonna get 8

 

[Michael Shunsby]

You seem to be an amateur regarding CPUs i see.
Have you ever wondered why the prices are same?
There is no short cut to anything in this world.
8 cores will have a bad experience in gaming while compared to i5's 4 cores.
Its like the net power is 100% and its divided into 8 parts(in case of amd into 12.5 each) and into 4 parts(25 each in case of i5).

Gaming relies on single core maximum performance. And amd FX 8350 has a lot of issues i am telling.
I wont make you buy a i5 but if you dont realise it now then later it will be too late.

Sorry i doubted you, i researched it more and it is true that i5 is better for games

 

[Michael Shunsby]

how about this one

hhttp://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8237599&CatId=4910

 

[Michael Shunsby]

i keep finding ones that i think are better. this one here has the sli capable, plus it has a 1tb hdd and 8gb of ram


http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8238111&sku=B69-1688

 

[Zynch]

i really want somthing top notch that will be able to handle almost anything

Did you go through my previous post?
i5 4670k is way over "top-notch".
Dont think having a frigging 8 core will help you.
NEVER!!.
Gaming relies on single core performance which an i5 has it sufficiently(more than enough)
And the main thing is the GPU.
770 was released on may2013 and newer cards and drivers affect gaming a lot.
and 770 is a top notch card right now. its Like the 4th best out here.
So, close your eyes and buy the above setup.

yeah i did, but if i can get 8 cores for the same price as 4, im gonna get 8

Idiots like you break screens;
my screen as i smash my head off it in shear disbelief.

 

[Michael Shunsby]

i really want somthing top notch that will be able to handle almost anything

Did you go through my previous post?
i5 4670k is way over "top-notch".
Dont think having a frigging 8 core will help you.
NEVER!!.
Gaming relies on single core performance which an i5 has it sufficiently(more than enough)
And the main thing is the GPU.
770 was released on may2013 and newer cards and drivers affect gaming a lot.
and 770 is a top notch card right now. its Like the 4th best out here.
So, close your eyes and buy the above setup.

yeah i did, but if i can get 8 cores for the same price as 4, im gonna get 8

Idiots like you break screens;
my screen as i smash my head off it in shear disbelief.

idiots like you cant understand a new pc builders thoughts that more cores is better

 

[Michael Shunsby]

ok no fight

looks like im going to have to keep looking around

 

[Michael Shunsby]

ok i compiled your list into my shopping cart at newegg
with the exception of your psu because it is discontinued, so alternatively i added
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341041

and the total price of everything with tax and shipping is $1361.65

 

[Michael Shunsby]

O.O why so much
??..where do you stay?

Anyways, Can you please post the final list again?

I am in Canada. and im on newegg.ca

that price i gave you.. i forgot to add windows software DOH! its more now :/

now when you said i could get core i7, i am weighing the option on that price wise.

the list is:

LITE-ON DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM

COOLER MASTER Storm Enforcer SGC-1000-KWN1 Black SECC / ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ATX PS2 / EPS 12V

ASUS GTX770-DC2OC-2GD5 GeForce GTX 770 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

- Haswell certified PSU- EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B 750W BRONZE ATX12V/EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular PSU New 4th Gen

Intel Core i7-4770K Haswell 3.5GHz LGA 1150 84W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics BX80646I74770K

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM

CORSAIR Vengeance 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ4GX3M1A1600C9B

GIGABYTE GA-G1.Sniper M5 LGA 1150 Intel Z87 SATA 6Gb/s uATX Intel Motherboard

COOLER MASTER RR-H101-22FK-RI 80mm Long life sleeve bearing CPU Cooler

and thats all

 

[Zynch]

i really want somthing top notch that will be able to handle almost anything

Did you go through my previous post?
i5 4670k is way over "top-notch".
Dont think having a frigging 8 core will help you.
NEVER!!.
Gaming relies on single core performance which an i5 has it sufficiently(more than enough)
And the main thing is the GPU.
770 was released on may2013 and newer cards and drivers affect gaming a lot.
and 770 is a top notch card right now. its Like the 4th best out here.
So, close your eyes and buy the above setup.

yeah i did, but if i can get 8 cores for the same price as 4, im gonna get 8

Idiots like you break screens;
my screen as i smash my head off it in shear disbelief.

idiots like you cant understand a new pc builders thoughts that more cores is better

It doesn't take a genius to work out that 4/8 is less than 3.5/4
It also doesn't take a genius to listen to advice though it was nice to see you did actually go research the comment rather than just throwing it in his face. - Something i've seen many a time on various forums.

 

[Zynch]

O.O why so much
??..where do you stay?

Anyways, Can you please post the final list again?

I am in Canada. and im on newegg.ca

that price i gave you.. i forgot to add windows software DOH! its more now :/

now when you said i could get core i7, i am weighing the option on that price wise.

the list is:

LITE-ON DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM

COOLER MASTER Storm Enforcer SGC-1000-KWN1 Black SECC / ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ATX PS2 / EPS 12V

ASUS GTX770-DC2OC-2GD5 GeForce GTX 770 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

- Haswell certified PSU- EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B 750W BRONZE ATX12V/EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular PSU New 4th Gen

Intel Core i7-4770K Haswell 3.5GHz LGA 1150 84W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics BX80646I74770K

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM

CORSAIR Vengeance 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ4GX3M1A1600C9B

GIGABYTE GA-G1.Sniper M5 LGA 1150 Intel Z87 SATA 6Gb/s uATX Intel Motherboard

COOLER MASTER RR-H101-22FK-RI 80mm Long life sleeve bearing CPU Cooler

and thats all

How about something more like this:

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1fDXO
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1fDXO/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1fDXO/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£179.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£89.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Asus GRYPHON Z87 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£123.59 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£41.77 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Sandisk 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£66.98 @ Novatech)
Storage: Seagate Momentus 750GB 2.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.40 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (£317.99 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Corsair 350D Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£87.78 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: Corsair GS Series 800W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£82.97 @ Dabs)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£13.15 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1043.61
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-11 22:17 BST+0100)

(1649.90 Canadian Dollars)

 

[Michael Shunsby]

O.O why so much
??..where do you stay?

Anyways, Can you please post the final list again?

I am in Canada. and im on newegg.ca

that price i gave you.. i forgot to add windows software DOH! its more now :/

now when you said i could get core i7, i am weighing the option on that price wise.

the list is:

LITE-ON DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM

COOLER MASTER Storm Enforcer SGC-1000-KWN1 Black SECC / ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ATX PS2 / EPS 12V

ASUS GTX770-DC2OC-2GD5 GeForce GTX 770 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

- Haswell certified PSU- EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B 750W BRONZE ATX12V/EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular PSU New 4th Gen

Intel Core i7-4770K Haswell 3.5GHz LGA 1150 84W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics BX80646I74770K

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM

CORSAIR Vengeance 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ4GX3M1A1600C9B

GIGABYTE GA-G1.Sniper M5 LGA 1150 Intel Z87 SATA 6Gb/s uATX Intel Motherboard

COOLER MASTER RR-H101-22FK-RI 80mm Long life sleeve bearing CPU Cooler

and thats all

O.
nice,the mobo is good too.
And the choice of the gpu is great.Just as i suggested.
I think it would have been better if u stuck wid Corsair PSU or XFX.
But since its haswell certified then ok...Better if you get a haswell certified PSU.
Other things are great.
Wished if you could have get 8gigs of ram but still 4 would suffice your need quite easily.

What monitor are you having?
Get atleast 24" screen for the kick ass rig u r getting.
AOC/Samsung/Asus/Acer/Dell are great

oh sorry i missed your reply.

but i have been hard at work researching and researching and have came up with a couple more revisions.

only things different are these:

a full ATX mobo because i realized that i can not add a secondary nic to the Uatx board. i need a second nic for connecting my xbox so i can play on XBConnect.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130693

and an XFX psu just like you said,

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207016

and 8 gigs of ram.

and a corsair h60 water cooler

and im gonna just get the i5-4570k to fit in my budget.

i do have one question, should i run 32 bit or 64 bit windows 7?

i will use the monitor i have now which is a 24 inch dell S2409W

all fits in my budget at under $1600 total
yes i do know that is alot. but look how much a mac is for example. which macs cant do anything like this

 

[Michael Shunsby]

i found this site can find all the parts at the cheapest price

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1gnEb

 

[Zynch]

i found this site can find all the parts at the cheapest price

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1gnEb

LOL..everyone knows this site...
any ways...you wont need the cpu cooler unless you plan on OCing.

Why did u change ur mobo?? gigabyte sniper was cool...and if not then ASRock Extreme 4 lga 1150 would also be a good choice and would cost even less than msi.

PSU-ok
Drive-ok
OS-ok(ultimate would be better but it costs a frigging ton)
CPU/GPU- Smoking!

there's no particular need of a 64 bit unless u r doing some professional editing or programming.
Some softwares like Adobe AE(after effects cs 6), maya..etc need 64 bit systems..but too...they all have an alternative 32 (X86) versions of them...not compulsory to have a 64 bit.
I am recently seeing that win8 might have some potential for gaming cuz it uses less resources than win7 which might actually help later on.
and win 8/xbox r introducing d new dx11.2 versions which will definitely be a help for games built on newer platforms.
And win 8 64bit comes at a lower price too.

Send me the feedback

Then again, why pay for windows when it; on certain websites; is free.

 

[Michael Shunsby]

i found this site can find all the parts at the cheapest price

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1gnEb

LOL..everyone knows this site...
any ways...you wont need the cpu cooler unless you plan on OCing.

Why did u change ur mobo?? gigabyte sniper was cool...and if not then ASRock Extreme 4 lga 1150 would also be a good choice and would cost even less than msi.

PSU-ok
Drive-ok
OS-ok(ultimate would be better but it costs a frigging ton)
CPU/GPU- Smoking!

there's no particular need of a 64 bit unless u r doing some professional editing or programming.
Some softwares like Adobe AE(after effects cs 6), maya..etc need 64 bit systems..but too...they all have an alternative 32 (X86) versions of them...not compulsory to have a 64 bit.
I am recently seeing that win8 might have some potential for gaming cuz it uses less resources than win7 which might actually help later on.
and win 8/xbox r introducing d new dx11.2 versions which will definitely be a help for games built on newer platforms.
And win 8 64bit comes at a lower price too.

Send me the feedback

I didnt know about that site..

i said in my last post why i changed the mobo.. i need more expansion slots.
ill just get the 32 bit win 7. doesnt the kit come with both versions? ive seen that they do in some youtube videos ive been watching.

as for the water cooler, i may not actually need it , but it sure would look cool! building a pc is all about making it look amazing (and perform amazing too)

 

[Michael Shunsby]

ok i will