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Need help choosing parts (motherboard, PSU, case, cooler) for gaming build (~$1000)

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Which motherboard should I get?

Total: 2 votes

  • MSI Z87-G41
  • 0 %
  • ASRock Z87 Pro4
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  • Gigabyte GA-Z87-D3HP
  • 100 %
  • MSI Z87-G45
  • 0 %
  • ASRock Z87-Extreme4
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  • ASUS Z87-A
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July 11, 2013 7:10:09 PM

I want to build my first computer, and I want it to be a very long-lasting machine with durable and sturdy parts. I want it to last me until at least the generation after Skymont.

Approximate Purchase Date: soon, because some nice sales are expiring at the end of the month

Budget Range: $1000, but the closer to $800 the better

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, day to day productivity, Adobe Creative Suite

Are you buying a monitor: No

Parts to Upgrade: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/turtlefu/saved/1Mml
The HDD I am re-using is a Seagate 500 GB 7200 SATA II, and there is a 1 TB Samsung 7200 rpm SATA II storage drive as well

Do you need to buy OS: No, I have an old hard drive with Windows 7 Retail installed that SHOULD work if I bring it into the new system

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: I prefer Newegg and MicroCenter

Location: Northeast USA

Parts Preferences: This is a Haswell build, I prefer Nvidia graphics because they run cooler and use less energy, and I prefer SeaSonic brand or manufactured PSUs

Overclocking: Yes, to about 4.5 GHz hopefully

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe, I was thinking by the time the 800/900 series comes out I could buy a second 760 for cheap and use it to increase performance

Your Monitor Resolution: 1440x900, but I have a 1080p HDTV I would like to try hooking it up to as well.

Why Are You Upgrading: I can't run many games well that I already bought (ie The Witcher, Alan Wake, Bioshock Infinite, Assassin's Creed) I would also like to play the PCSX2 and Dolphin emulators

Parts I need help on:
Cooler - CM Hyper 212 EVO is $30 after MIR, Seidon 120M is $35 after MIR. Reviews say Seidon has better cooling than Hyper 212 EVO by about 4-6 degrees. Since I want to overclock, is the AIO watercooling system worth it? Or are there risks and is the Hyper 212 EVO good enough?

Motherboards - following motherboards are on sale at my local MicroCenter
MSI Z87-G41 for $60
ASRock Z87 Pro4 for $75
Gigabyte GA-Z87-D3HP for $90
MSI Z87-G45 for $100
ASRock Z87-Extreme4 for $105
ASUS Z87-A for $110
Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H for $140
ASUS Z87 Sabertooth for $220
Which is the best deal and value? I may or may not SLI and if there is poor on-chip audio I may buy a sound card. Above all else, I want high-quality, durable, long-lasting motherboard. I have doubts about MSI because I have one of their AM3 motherboards and it is buggy. Sabertooth seems overpriced, and the Extreme4 has poor reviews due to a BIOS issue. I'm drawn towards the G45 except it's an MSI and I like the UD4H because it seems sturdy and long-lasting but it's more expensive than I wanted to spend.

Cases - choice is between Corsair 500R, Fractal Design Define R4, or Enermax Ostrog GT. Corsair seems to have best cooling but Define R4 has better noise suppression. Ostrog GT is in the middle. Thoughts?

PSU: XFX Bronze 750W Modular is SeaSonic-made and is on sale for $55. SeaSonic 750W Bronze Modular is $87. I want 750W in case I SLI, but if I decide to not SLI then I could go for SeaSonic 550W Gold PSU for $80.

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a c 287 4 Gaming
July 12, 2013 1:18:25 AM

Wow. You have a nice part list. Seems like you did your research.

1. I would just go for the ASRock Z87 Extreme4. Great board for the price, I haven't heard anything about bios issue. Can you link me?
2. I prefer the Define R4. It still provides great airflow, given you don't block it with horrid cable management.
3. Out of all of those psu, the XFX 750w semi-modular one for $55 is still the best deal. Seasonic made, semi-modular and 750w at $55 is a great deal. The only real con I see to that psu is that its only 80+ bronze, which isn't a big deal for the price.

I tend to stay away from single-rad AOI watercoolers because the Hyper 212 EVO can perform practically similarly.

This build won't last 4years, maybe 3 at max before it can't handle any more games.
July 12, 2013 7:47:44 PM

Hey, thanks! I did do a lot of research, reading a lot of reviews and getting advice. I'm pretty confident about the selection, but my brain has been consumed by computers for the past month :p 

1. Reviews on NewEgg show that there is a BIOS issue. ASROck issued a fix but there are still some issues and it makes me wary.
2. The Corsair cases do seem best, but I'm just worried about the less temperature efficient R4 combined with the Hyper 212 EVO and not the better cooling of the Seidon could make me worry about temperatures if I am overclocking (especially because Haswell is going to run hot). Is cooling something I should be worried about?

Really? 3 Years? Since many people are still happily playing games on their Sandy Bridge chips right now, Broadwell has been delayed to 2015 (which means Skymont should come out in 2017, and then whatever chip comes out after that in 2018). Broadwell is not expected to be a significant performance boost over Haswell, so using a Haswell processor during the Skymont generation would be like using a Sandy Bridge processor during this generation, kind of. Or is my thinking flawed? I don't need to play games on Ultra or anything, I'm sure the 4670K will meet the minimum, if not recommended, requirements of games for the next several years.
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a c 287 4 Gaming
July 12, 2013 7:59:03 PM

1. The Gigabyte motherboard is a solid choice then.
2. The R4 and Hyper 212 EVO should be enough to let you OC to about 4.3-4.5 atleast.

Sure, the processor may be able to still run games decently. However, the gpu will be extremely out-dated. It's like using a Radeon HD 4650 right now. The gpu will be under-performing in 3-4years, and you're asking for 5.
July 12, 2013 8:34:51 PM

Oh, right. I haven't actually decided on the GTX 760 and it's a lot easier to replace a GPU than a processor/motherboard.

I was thinking that about the time the GTX 760 starts to lag (probably around the 800/900 series?), I could get a second GTX 760 (by then the price should go down a little), and run it in the SLI. Or is that not a good idea? Would it be better to get say, a 660 now and get a completely new card later when the 800/900 series comes out or maybe even wait for the Radeon HD 8000 series? What makes the most sense, value-wise?

Of course if I SLI I would have to get the Extreme4 or Gigabyte UD4H instead of the D3HP.
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