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Rumor: Apple Buys Taiwan Fab to Build Its Own Chips

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July 13, 2013 9:20:16 AM

Well they have the cash to pull this off.
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July 13, 2013 11:23:48 AM

Honestly, I saw them doing this years ago. I'm surprised it took this long.
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July 13, 2013 11:32:14 AM

I can't wait for Apple PC Processors. Socket name ideas;
Granny Smith
Yellow
Red
Gaia
...Get it????
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July 13, 2013 11:47:10 AM

Yeah, if Apple start making PC processors, expect them to announce them an magical and innovative - followed by a massive lawsuit against Intel when they find a way to patent the concept of a 'CPU'
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July 13, 2013 12:58:07 PM

back_by_demand said:
Yeah, if Apple start making PC processors, expect them to announce them an magical and innovative - followed by a massive lawsuit against Intel when they find a way to patent the concept of a 'CPU'


And expect to pay more for the white one :D 
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July 13, 2013 1:13:29 PM

Sir, I've bashed Apple a lot because I think they're a company that releases vastly overpriced products, but... The reality is, producing a major product line in the US is likely a quick ticket to a small profit margin or a failed product.

We all know that the cost of labor in the US would either drive up the cost of the product significantly, making labor one of the most expensive factors in production, or cut the profit margin to ribbons. What they would be banking on is that Americans would see the higher price and buy because of a "Made in the USA" sticker with a *much* cheaper Samsung or other branded phone staring them in the face right next to them. It's true that a number would, but, you mentioned "stingy, greedy mofos" about the corporations, and you give the common American *far* too much credit. They are every bit as stingy and greedy, and if you don't believe it, just look at the success of vendors who market things almost exclusively made by cheap foreign labour. Made in the USA goods were always there, but people gladly bought Walmart crap to save a few bucks and watched local vendors selling American goods go down in flames. Now those made in the USA goods are gone and people are pretending like it's all the evil corporations' fault for giving the consumer what the consumer voted for with their wallets.

The reality is, the patriotism market is saturated, and it was never that big to begin with. When people vote with their wallets, they would rather wave around an extra few dollar bills they saved than an American flag. These corporations are greedy, yes, but they aren't stupid - and they know what you either don't know or aren't admitting - that the common American will gladly buy Chinese when no-one is looking, even if they wave a flag when someone is, and they are every bit as greedy as the corporations.

You pair all this with the fact that there are a half dozen companies lying in wait for the big dogs to do something as stupid as expecting patriotism to sell products in the face of better prices and Apple knows that the epic blunder of large scale American production is one they can't afford if they want to stay in the top spot.

Besides, those sweatshop workers work a heck of a lot harder than Americans while expecting far fewer benefits. Frankly, the modern western world worker is an entitled brat, and you don't pull a profit trying to sell goods made by people who expect the world given to them on a platter made by people who expect the world given to them on a platter.
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July 13, 2013 1:16:32 PM

Why would they sign a three year contract with another foundry if they planned on buying UMC?! Could of have been just a one year contract or they could have signed with UMC to begin with.
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July 13, 2013 2:17:37 PM

Stevejnb, nicely put. Nicely put. Thanks for taking the time.
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July 13, 2013 3:23:10 PM

macpeteo said:
Why would they sign a three year contract with another foundry if they planned on buying UMC?! Could of have been just a one year contract or they could have signed with UMC to begin with.


Most propably because it takes time to get everything right with production... It would be a disaster to Apple if their own production would not be enough to full fill all needs. It is better to them to play safe and buy enough production capasity and even over produce prosessors untill they have stable income of own prosessors. They can afford it easily...


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July 13, 2013 4:29:08 PM

stevejnb said:
... The reality is, producing a major product line in the US is likely a quick ticket to a small profit margin or a failed product.


I would also like to add that the US government, and even state governments are increasingly hostile to businesses, especially large ones, at this point. The red tape including screwy tax laws and environmental concerns, are a big turn off to businesses trying to set up shop. Having to hire a staff of people just to keep you out of trouble with government agencies does not make for better products or lower costs.

While I like the idea of creating jobs in the United States, I at least can feel a bit of understanding why companies might not want to set up shop here. The companies that go into business for benevolent reasons are usually called charities, and that is hardly something I would consider Apple to be.
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July 13, 2013 4:34:48 PM

Completely unrelated to this article, could the writers please stop saying "That said" in every third paragraph? The phrase has lost all meaning through over use. I love this website, I visit it every day and it is my number one source of tech news as well as in-depth hardware reviews but I cringe every time I read "That said".
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July 13, 2013 5:28:19 PM

Intel makes there CPU's in the USA. Global Foundries(GF) open up a plant in New York. GF are the main supplier to AMD. So, why can't Apple?
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July 13, 2013 5:58:41 PM

UMC was never mentioned in the original article intro when I read it.

I should also note people over at S|A forums have one thing to say: http://semiaccurate.com/forums/showpost.php?p=188908&po...

or, for those who do not want a link:
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http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/07/12/rumor-apple-b...

Oh noes, they are putting words in the Semi-Accurate mouth! (and they ain't wrapped in bacon)

It's time to unleash the granny!
Even the paywall they got partially wrong - Student Level is enough for most to know how wrong UMC is.
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July 13, 2013 9:40:01 PM

What does "capable of processing 50,000 wafers" mean? 50,000 wafers at once? Per day? Per Year?
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July 13, 2013 11:52:12 PM

melvar said:
What does "capable of processing 50,000 wafers" mean? 50,000 wafers at once? Per day? Per Year?


Typically the number of wafers processed means in a month. So 50,000 wafers a month.

Just gonna do some quick math on Apple's SoC (let call next one 100mm*2 (probably much larger than it really is) + perfectly square (probably not true).

That nets a max of 600 SoC's, which means provided Apple is using 100% of TSMC capacity, they could have upwards of 30 million SoC's per month (of course, that implies no flaws in any of them, and a lot of other stuff).

cheers!
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July 14, 2013 6:18:38 PM

Yeah, they should pack up the factory and ship it over here. Sorry, but there is a recession going on, so the shareholders can bite the bullet just like the rest of us. The markets are well over '09 levels so it's time to let the rest of us get some increase. There is a Intel fab in Albuquerque also. If wall street doing well meant the US economy was doing well, we would have our well paying jobs back.
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July 15, 2013 8:01:46 AM

lol good luck with that, apple. I don't know if "Think Different" works in chip architecture.
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July 15, 2013 8:30:53 AM

Source: ISeeWhatYouDidThere
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July 15, 2013 7:56:20 PM

rwinches said:
Yeah, they should pack up the factory and ship it over here. Sorry, but there is a recession going on, so the shareholders can bite the bullet just like the rest of us. The markets are well over '09 levels so it's time to let the rest of us get some increase. There is a Intel fab in Albuquerque also. If wall street doing well meant the US economy was doing well, we would have our well paying jobs back.

What are you even talking about? When did shipping a fab over here mean anything?

There are multiple fabs (Intel, GloFo, Samsung) that would all fit what Apple is planning to buy.

Please understand the situation before making idiotic comments like this...

Thanks!

~cheers!
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