Help me with deciding on what graphics card I should go with
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Adin Gill
July 19, 2013 12:56:23 AM
I have a simple question... Out of all the 600 and 700 series cards, which one will give me the best bang for my buck?
I know that the 680/780 are some of the best single GPU solutions out there but be reasonable with your suggestions.. I don't need 100s of frames per second, I just want a bit more than my ATI 6800HD.. SLI is a possibility because I am going to be getting a new motherboard and CPU in the near future
I know that the 680/780 are some of the best single GPU solutions out there but be reasonable with your suggestions.. I don't need 100s of frames per second, I just want a bit more than my ATI 6800HD.. SLI is a possibility because I am going to be getting a new motherboard and CPU in the near future
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Adin Gill
July 19, 2013 1:30:30 AM
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Gtx 760 sli worth 740$ would outperform gtx titan worth $1299 aus dollars
Heres the evga superclocked gtx 760 2gb-314$ each
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...
If goin 40$ up is not possible
Then go with a 660ti sli
It has more power consumption but comparitively low performance to 760 sli
Here msi660ti o.c. Versio for 299$ each
http://www.mwave.com.au/product/sku-aa77688-msi_geforce...
Dont forget to close the post by selecting the best answer
Heres the evga superclocked gtx 760 2gb-314$ each
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...
If goin 40$ up is not possible
Then go with a 660ti sli
It has more power consumption but comparitively low performance to 760 sli
Here msi660ti o.c. Versio for 299$ each
http://www.mwave.com.au/product/sku-aa77688-msi_geforce...
Dont forget to close the post by selecting the best answer
Adin Gill
July 19, 2013 4:13:07 AM
frascht
July 19, 2013 4:15:34 AM
If you want to keep a steady 70-100 fps on any game on the market, SLI is a ridiculous waste of money. An EVGA GTX 770 is an absolutely beautiful card, with a top-rated manufacturer. It is more than enough for ANY game on a 1080p monitor. Do not be temped to buy a 780.. for a 10-15% increase in performance, it's $250 more. I've had a GTX 670 for about seven months now and I still crush everything I play. CRUSH.
I just upgraded from a 670 to a 780 and the real world performance difference is huge if you want to max out games like Metro last light, Bioshock infinite, and max payne 3, with fluid gameplay. The extra memory and faster architecture warrants the difference in price if you play demanding games. I recommend the Gtx 780 if you're willing to spend the money because the 770 is not that much faster than the 670 and has the same amount of memory unless you go with the 4gb model that will be significantly more expensive.
If you are planning to play demanding games with a 1440p you will need a gtx 780, Titan or a SLI configuration unless you want to turn down the settings. Also a SLI configuration will require a costly power supply and case upgrades in many cases and have more compatibly problems.
GTX 780 or Titan is the way it's meant to be played however spending $650+ on a video card is not for everybody.
If you are planning to play demanding games with a 1440p you will need a gtx 780, Titan or a SLI configuration unless you want to turn down the settings. Also a SLI configuration will require a costly power supply and case upgrades in many cases and have more compatibly problems.
GTX 780 or Titan is the way it's meant to be played however spending $650+ on a video card is not for everybody.
Adin Gill said:
$500 is pushing the limit, $600 is probably my max, like I will be feeling VERY uncomfortable with paying $600 if it shows not much more performance than SLI with 2 cheaper cardsJust a kinda important note... I am living in Australia, so my prices will be higher than America
I would suggest the GTX770 then. SLI adds extra hassle and more heat and noise.
Adin Gill
July 19, 2013 1:34:36 PM
Adin Gill
July 19, 2013 1:47:58 PM
Adin Gill
July 19, 2013 2:26:06 PM
@byogamingpc: yea, I am thinking 2 Asus DCU2 760s with an 850w power supply (I like having overhead for extra fans/drives) and it gets pretty hot in my room
Thanks eveyone for their input, I will probably go with a pair of the Asus-es stated above, yes, a single 770 is cheaper than a SLI 760s but its a tough choice, trying to balance performance with cost, power usage and heat dissipation and finally looks
Thanks eveyone for their input, I will probably go with a pair of the Asus-es stated above, yes, a single 770 is cheaper than a SLI 760s but its a tough choice, trying to balance performance with cost, power usage and heat dissipation and finally looks
Adin Gill
July 19, 2013 2:37:53 PM
Adin Gill
July 19, 2013 7:59:40 PM
Adin Gill
July 19, 2013 9:12:55 PM
I am planning to go with a i5 4670K with an H100i (I'm a corsair fan) on an MSI z87-GD45/GD65 or maybe a lower end ASUS ROG board with 8 to 16 Gigs of Corsair or Kingston ram. I'll probably put it all in a Corsair Vengance C70 case (cause I go to the occasional lan party or move it to a friends place AND I'm a corsair fan
) .... so its not gonna be a slow system by any means
But since I dont have all the money I need at the moment and I kinda want to play my games at a higher resolution than 720p on normal...
I have just done a fair bit of reading and both the 760s and 770s scale well at 1080p (up to and over 80% in some cases) and both the 760 and 770 both run last generation cores (GK104)... I'm kind of swaying towards the 770 to start off with, then getting a 2nd one when I need it
I got my information here:
http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/4632/geforce-gtx-700-se...
) .... so its not gonna be a slow system by any meansBut since I dont have all the money I need at the moment and I kinda want to play my games at a higher resolution than 720p on normal...
I have just done a fair bit of reading and both the 760s and 770s scale well at 1080p (up to and over 80% in some cases) and both the 760 and 770 both run last generation cores (GK104)... I'm kind of swaying towards the 770 to start off with, then getting a 2nd one when I need it
I got my information here:
http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/4632/geforce-gtx-700-se...
Adin Gill
July 19, 2013 10:12:45 PM
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/MSI-GTX-770-Gaming-4GB...
Check this Article the MSI 770 4gb looks good.
Check this Article the MSI 770 4gb looks good.
I suggest you get a 770 Classified with 4gb of Ram or the 780.
I checked out your article that you posted and it's not accurate, I find that
Toms hardware is more reliable and informative... For example your article
made a mistake and wasn't clear with Tomb raider indicating that the Anti
Aliasing was 4x ssaa, which I doubt because that is a very taxing setting that didn't reflect the numbers accurately as well as other numbers that didn't make sense... My comment is based on my experience with the 780 and 670 with tomb raider and other reliable sources such as Toms Hardware.
CPU
I recommend you get a 3550 or 3570 non k processer and not buy the
expensive 100i closed loop cooler and put that money into your graphics
budget if you are planning to use the system primarily for gaming.
As per Toms Hardware there will not be a major increase in gaming performance over the 3570 or even 3550 when you buy a high end processor and overclock it, the added performance will seen in other applications and operating system functions...
Reference to the article http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-o...
Next Year I heard that the NVidia cards will make better use of the RAM resources... The rumored Hanswell E processors coming next year with 8 cores and DDR 4 and next Generation graphics cards will probably be a great combination, looking forward to the Toms Hardware article when both items come out...
Mother Board
I suggest you have a look at the Toms Hardware Review and pick a Motherboard that has the features that you are looking for.
Power Supply,
I suggest you get a power supply that will accommodate a SLI setup if you plan to upgrade in the future.
I checked out your article that you posted and it's not accurate, I find that
Toms hardware is more reliable and informative... For example your article
made a mistake and wasn't clear with Tomb raider indicating that the Anti
Aliasing was 4x ssaa, which I doubt because that is a very taxing setting that didn't reflect the numbers accurately as well as other numbers that didn't make sense... My comment is based on my experience with the 780 and 670 with tomb raider and other reliable sources such as Toms Hardware.
CPU
I recommend you get a 3550 or 3570 non k processer and not buy the
expensive 100i closed loop cooler and put that money into your graphics
budget if you are planning to use the system primarily for gaming.
As per Toms Hardware there will not be a major increase in gaming performance over the 3570 or even 3550 when you buy a high end processor and overclock it, the added performance will seen in other applications and operating system functions...
Reference to the article http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-o...
Next Year I heard that the NVidia cards will make better use of the RAM resources... The rumored Hanswell E processors coming next year with 8 cores and DDR 4 and next Generation graphics cards will probably be a great combination, looking forward to the Toms Hardware article when both items come out...
Mother Board
I suggest you have a look at the Toms Hardware Review and pick a Motherboard that has the features that you are looking for.
Power Supply,
I suggest you get a power supply that will accommodate a SLI setup if you plan to upgrade in the future.
I agree however the 840 pro is much more expensive and the 830 is not readily
Available and also more expensive. I have both drives and although I like the slightly faster boot times,
Significantly faster data transfer and peace of mind of the more durable mlc nand memory,
The 120 gb 840 is great value at $99.99 and a great option for a gamer on a budget.
I enjoy my 256 gb 840 pro however at $250 its not for everybody.
I would suggest putting the extra money in the gpu.
Available and also more expensive. I have both drives and although I like the slightly faster boot times,
Significantly faster data transfer and peace of mind of the more durable mlc nand memory,
The 120 gb 840 is great value at $99.99 and a great option for a gamer on a budget.
I enjoy my 256 gb 840 pro however at $250 its not for everybody.
I would suggest putting the extra money in the gpu.
Adin Gill
July 20, 2013 3:29:39 PM
@Mr91 so your telling me to get a graphics card that $150 (or even over $300) over my budget when I'm only saving $40 on downgrade from my 4670K (with the headroom for overclocking if I need it) to a locked 3570 which doesn't have the new low power C states that I get from a Haswell? also with me moving it around a lot to lan parties and friends houses.. A heavy air cooler has the potential to damage the motherboard.
If you read further up the page... if the SLI setup DOESN'T perform better than a single card, I will go with a single card. I'm honestly sick of todays generation caring about graphics... I just want to get a better framerate than my ATI 6800HD that I brought 2 years ago because I just needed a better card.. I want to get out of having to play 720p on my 1080p screen, etc, etc, etc... so the MSI (or any brand) GTX770 2GB will do... the 4GB of ram will only help if I play on multi-monitor (which I don't).
I will probably get a normal HDD because an SSD will only affect load times not actual frame rates, and if I get annoyed with load times, I'll just make a temporary RamDisk with the 16Gigs of ram just for that game.
Not only will I be gaming on this PC I do to streaming and I do plan on loading up to youtube. I also encode movies and down-sample (change my movies from 1080p to 720p) for a smaller filesize on my phone.. I might even be doing 2 of those things at the same time and I do make use of Virtual PCs on my computer. I do plan on trying to get a windows 98/ME VirtualBox going so I can play all these old games I have laying around.
My full/total limit is $1500, and my outright limit (as in I'm not EVER going over it) is $2000 for the whole computer.
I'm not trying to sound rude (If I do I apologize), but I am not a quality whore... I would prefer better frame rates and gameplay over quality, but my poor little I5 2500 is a few years old now and I want to upgrade to a better PC, games are getting more and more demanding on computers, using multiple cores, Higher AA passes, higher resolutions etc... and I want it to be able to last just as long as my current computer has
YES an SSD is nice to have but its not necessary the same goes to a high end GTX770 or a GTX780 (or even a Titan) and with more support coming for SLI (because more people are doing it more) it seems like a nice upgrade path if my games start to lag in the graphics department
This is an Epic post so I decided to end it here, Thank you for all you input but I'll probably go with 2x MSI GTX770s Gamings, I'll get one now and one later on..
Thank you all
If you read further up the page... if the SLI setup DOESN'T perform better than a single card, I will go with a single card. I'm honestly sick of todays generation caring about graphics... I just want to get a better framerate than my ATI 6800HD that I brought 2 years ago because I just needed a better card.. I want to get out of having to play 720p on my 1080p screen, etc, etc, etc... so the MSI (or any brand) GTX770 2GB will do... the 4GB of ram will only help if I play on multi-monitor (which I don't).
I will probably get a normal HDD because an SSD will only affect load times not actual frame rates, and if I get annoyed with load times, I'll just make a temporary RamDisk with the 16Gigs of ram just for that game.
Not only will I be gaming on this PC I do to streaming and I do plan on loading up to youtube. I also encode movies and down-sample (change my movies from 1080p to 720p) for a smaller filesize on my phone.. I might even be doing 2 of those things at the same time and I do make use of Virtual PCs on my computer. I do plan on trying to get a windows 98/ME VirtualBox going so I can play all these old games I have laying around.
My full/total limit is $1500, and my outright limit (as in I'm not EVER going over it) is $2000 for the whole computer.
I'm not trying to sound rude (If I do I apologize), but I am not a quality whore... I would prefer better frame rates and gameplay over quality, but my poor little I5 2500 is a few years old now and I want to upgrade to a better PC, games are getting more and more demanding on computers, using multiple cores, Higher AA passes, higher resolutions etc... and I want it to be able to last just as long as my current computer has
YES an SSD is nice to have but its not necessary the same goes to a high end GTX770 or a GTX780 (or even a Titan) and with more support coming for SLI (because more people are doing it more) it seems like a nice upgrade path if my games start to lag in the graphics department
This is an Epic post so I decided to end it here, Thank you for all you input but I'll probably go with 2x MSI GTX770s Gamings, I'll get one now and one later on..
Thank you all
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