Sign in with
Sign up | Sign in
Your question

H80i vs Hyper 212 Evo

Tags:
  • Water Cooling
  • CPUs
  • Evo
Last response: in CPUs
Share
July 23, 2013 4:14:37 PM

Which is going to cool my FX 8350 CPU better? I've got it oc'd at 4200MHz right now, and want to go farther but it's getting too hot for my liking right now. I've got the hyper 212, but am considering going to the H80i (build won't support the 100i) if it'll cool better.

More about : h80i hyper 212 evo

July 23, 2013 4:19:12 PM

Eliposin said:
Which is going to cool my FX 8350 CPU better? I've got it oc'd at 4200MHz right now, and want to go farther but it's getting too hot for my liking right now. I've got the hyper 212, but am considering going to the H80i (build won't support the 100i) if it'll cool better.


I would say invest in the h80, and maybe even get stronger fans for it. The 212 is great for minor OCing, but when you get that high on clock, it just gets too hot. Plus, even though AMD does have a higher clock usually, they can't overclock as much as Intel CPUs due to heat problems.

So yeah, go all ahead with the h80. ^_^
August 2, 2013 9:09:52 AM

In my personal experience, I would say stick with the Hyper 212. Recently I purchased a H80i to replace my 212 Evo, but returned it because I saw almost no increase in cooling performance. I do have a 4770k CPU so the scenario isnt exactly the same, however I still believe the cost is not justified. Under full load (Prime95) my system was hitting upwards of 70-75 degrees C with the H80i, which in my opinion is too high for something considered "water cooling".

I say stick with the Hyper 212 and put some good fans on it. I run mine in Push/Pull with SP120s and get 30-35C idle, and at most 55C while gaming.
Related resources
a b à CPUs
August 2, 2013 12:25:56 PM

H80i should get you a few degrees lower than Hyper212 EVO, but may be you should consider some of the other alternatives to H80i, such as Kraken X40 or Zalman HQ320. I am personally using Zalman cooler, and the results are about 5C lower than EVO.
a c 95 à CPUs
August 2, 2013 2:50:39 PM

The Hyper Evo 212 performs well for the price you pay and beats the H60 water cooler. The H80i is a good CPU cooler as it is the newer (2013 edition) water cooler to be sold by Corsair.

Double thick 120mm radiator for increased cooling and compatibility
Integrated Corsair Link™ functionality allows you to adjust fan speed profiles and lighting, and monitor coolant temp via the free Corsair Link Dashboard software download.
Two SP120L High Performance fans ( get the quiet edition if you want a quiet cooler) optimize static pressure at a reduced noise level for good performance.
Large-diameter, low permeability tubing ensures long life and improves flexibility for an easier installation.
Quick and easy magnetic installation brackets make it easier than ever to upgrade to watercooling

The H80i performs better than the Evo 212 and takes up less space. However its been described as quiet loud so different fans may be wanted. If you wanted an air cooler CPU which is as good as the H80i then you would want to have a look at the Noctua NH-D14. The H80i will almost definitely allow for more overclocking if you ever wish to do so.
August 3, 2013 7:21:55 PM

Completely agree ^^

It's totally worth the money, especially when put in push pull. I'm going to be getting an H100i, and hopefully getting 4 SP 2400 RPM fans that I will run at least 70% all the time if not more and/or will make a curve. I'm doing this because, frankly, I don't think it'll get through 7.1 surround headsets that are usually blasting ^_^. I'm pretty sure that if you get the CFM on it enough, and have good airflow through the case, it will totally be worth it to get the h80i. Plus those huge double sided coolers with the huge fans can break much easier when you transport them, but the only thing on, really any water system, that's loose is the water cables, which obviously won't break just from bumping into something lightly. ^_^

Ganbatte!

-Ledo
a b à CPUs
August 3, 2013 7:43:03 PM

GOM3RPLY3R said:
Eliposin said:
Which is going to cool my FX 8350 CPU better? I've got it oc'd at 4200MHz right now, and want to go farther but it's getting too hot for my liking right now. I've got the hyper 212, but am considering going to the H80i (build won't support the 100i) if it'll cool better.


I would say invest in the h80, and maybe even get stronger fans for it. The 212 is great for minor OCing, but when you get that high on clock, it just gets too hot. Plus, even though AMD does have a higher clock usually, they can't overclock as much as Intel CPUs due to heat problems.

So yeah, go all ahead with the h80. ^_^


+1

FX-6300 @ 4.5GHz with Hyper212 Evo:
September 21, 2013 5:30:28 PM

I was using an H80i on my i7 3930K, idle temps were 38 to 40C running at 4170MHz, full load it would reach about 52C. I've had nothing but problems with the H80i Link software, and I'm switching to the Hyper 212 Evo. I first had problems with the Link software conflicting with the Intel RSTe driver, had to down grade the driver to avoid BSOD errors. Next the software was conflicting with my Asus Sabertooth X79 BIOS monitor software. Now finally after 9 months of use the pump has died. The H80i is a real nice hardware system but the software sucks, other forums report the same issues with the software. Maybe these issues are only with Intel systems, and I was looking forward to trying the AX860i power supply. But these issues have placed a hold on these plans because of the software.
September 24, 2014 2:06:34 PM

I have a FX 8350 as well with the hyper 212 and i looked into the h80i and it wasn't enough of a temperature difference to sway me toward it. mine runs turbo at 4.3ghz and it never gets above 45 degrees Celsius. i also have 3 fans in the general area not counting the fan on the 212
September 24, 2014 3:32:05 PM

uoducks2110 said:
I have a FX 8350 as well with the hyper 212 and i looked into the h80i and it wasn't enough of a temperature difference to sway me toward it. mine runs turbo at 4.3ghz and it never gets above 45 degrees Celsius. i also have 3 fans in the general area not counting the fan on the 212


That's pretty interesting considering my friend ran a h100i on his 8350 and stock idled at about 35 and loaded to about 75. Also interesting is that my overclocked i5-3570k idles at 45 with the h100i. So either my hardware is poop or there is some falsehood in your statement. I believe the latter is true. :/ 
a b à CPUs
September 24, 2014 4:19:33 PM

I have the h80i but I switched back to my hyper t4 (slightly higher temps than the 212 would yield). The h80i did stay cooler but temps were much less consistent and I would have strange spikes during stress testing. I would definitely go with the 212 if I were you. Air is more reliable and the 212 is phenomenal for the price.
September 24, 2014 8:53:06 PM

GOM3RPLY3R said:
uoducks2110 said:
I have a FX 8350 as well with the hyper 212 and i looked into the h80i and it wasn't enough of a temperature difference to sway me toward it. mine runs turbo at 4.3ghz and it never gets above 45 degrees Celsius. i also have 3 fans in the general area not counting the fan on the 212


That's pretty interesting considering my friend ran a h100i on his 8350 and stock idled at about 35 and loaded to about 75. Also interesting is that my overclocked i5-3570k idles at 45 with the h100i. So either my hardware is poop or there is some falsehood in your statement. I believe the latter is true. :/ 

How many case fans did he have in his build though?
October 6, 2014 5:25:46 PM

uoducks2110 said:
Spoiler
GOM3RPLY3R said:
uoducks2110 said:
I have a FX 8350 as well with the hyper 212 and i looked into the h80i and it wasn't enough of a temperature difference to sway me toward it. mine runs turbo at 4.3ghz and it never gets above 45 degrees Celsius. i also have 3 fans in the general area not counting the fan on the 212


That's pretty interesting considering my friend ran a h100i on his 8350 and stock idled at about 35 and loaded to about 75. Also interesting is that my overclocked i5-3570k idles at 45 with the h100i. So either my hardware is poop or there is some falsehood in your statement. I believe the latter is true. :/ 

How many case fans did he have in his build though?


He had 6 fans (1 120mm rear, 4 120mms in push/pull on top for h100i [modified], 1 140mm in the front):NZXT Phantom

He was lacking the intake a bit, but had great cooling otherwise. Other than that, considering that even my GTX 770, which definitely has less heat output, runs at a minimum of 28ºC idle and a max of 57ºC load with the Kraken G10 and Corsair H50, makes it honestly unbelievable that the 8350 ran at a max of 45ºC with a 212 EVO Air Cooler.
October 6, 2014 6:17:14 PM

Azrael47 said:
The Hyper Evo 212 performs well for the price you pay and beats the H60 water cooler. The H80i is a good CPU cooler as it is the newer (2013 edition) water cooler to be sold by Corsair.

Double thick 120mm radiator for increased cooling and compatibility
Integrated Corsair Link™ functionality allows you to adjust fan speed profiles and lighting, and monitor coolant temp via the free Corsair Link Dashboard software download.
Two SP120L High Performance fans ( get the quiet edition if you want a quiet cooler) optimize static pressure at a reduced noise level for good performance.
Large-diameter, low permeability tubing ensures long life and improves flexibility for an easier installation.
Quick and easy magnetic installation brackets make it easier than ever to upgrade to watercooling

The H80i performs better than the Evo 212 and takes up less space. However its been described as quiet loud so different fans may be wanted. If you wanted an air cooler CPU which is as good as the H80i then you would want to have a look at the Noctua NH-D14. The H80i will almost definitely allow for more overclocking if you ever wish to do so.


Nice copy and paste job. Better to link to unbiased tests than take post obvious advertising copy from the Corsair web site.
October 6, 2014 6:41:08 PM

christopherjames said:
Spoiler
Azrael47 said:
The Hyper Evo 212 performs well for the price you pay and beats the H60 water cooler. The H80i is a good CPU cooler as it is the newer (2013 edition) water cooler to be sold by Corsair.

Double thick 120mm radiator for increased cooling and compatibility
Integrated Corsair Link™ functionality allows you to adjust fan speed profiles and lighting, and monitor coolant temp via the free Corsair Link Dashboard software download.
Two SP120L High Performance fans ( get the quiet edition if you want a quiet cooler) optimize static pressure at a reduced noise level for good performance.
Large-diameter, low permeability tubing ensures long life and improves flexibility for an easier installation.
Quick and easy magnetic installation brackets make it easier than ever to upgrade to watercooling

The H80i performs better than the Evo 212 and takes up less space. However its been described as quiet loud so different fans may be wanted. If you wanted an air cooler CPU which is as good as the H80i then you would want to have a look at the Noctua NH-D14. The H80i will almost definitely allow for more overclocking if you ever wish to do so.


Nice copy and paste job. Better to link to unbiased tests than take post obvious advertising copy from the Corsair web site.


Lol +1
October 8, 2014 6:37:37 AM

GOM3RPLY3R said:
uoducks2110 said:
Spoiler
GOM3RPLY3R said:
uoducks2110 said:
I have a FX 8350 as well with the hyper 212 and i looked into the h80i and it wasn't enough of a temperature difference to sway me toward it. mine runs turbo at 4.3ghz and it never gets above 45 degrees Celsius. i also have 3 fans in the general area not counting the fan on the 212


That's pretty interesting considering my friend ran a h100i on his 8350 and stock idled at about 35 and loaded to about 75. Also interesting is that my overclocked i5-3570k idles at 45 with the h100i. So either my hardware is poop or there is some falsehood in your statement. I believe the latter is true. :/ 

How many case fans did he have in his build though?


He had 6 fans (1 120mm rear, 4 120mms in push/pull on top for h100i [modified], 1 140mm in the front):NZXT Phantom

He was lacking the intake a bit, but had great cooling otherwise. Other than that, considering that even my GTX 770, which definitely has less heat output, runs at a minimum of 28ºC idle and a max of 57ºC load with the Kraken G10 and Corsair H50, makes it honestly unbelievable that the 8350 ran at a max of 45ºC with a 212 EVO Air Cooler.


When it doesn't fully turbo it doesn't get over 50 degrees, but when it doest it goes up to about 4.6ghz and runs around 55-60 degrees so I wasn't completely honest with you but it is very cool for these speeds. My case is a Corsair Carbide series which comes with a 140mm intake on the front and a 120mm exaust on the back, I then added two corsair sp120 high performance fans on the top of the case with one blowing directly onto the 212 evo and one taking air out so that might also be helping alot with my temps.
October 8, 2014 10:07:45 AM

uoducks2110 said:
Spoiler
GOM3RPLY3R said:
uoducks2110 said:
Spoiler
GOM3RPLY3R said:
uoducks2110 said:
I have a FX 8350 as well with the hyper 212 and i looked into the h80i and it wasn't enough of a temperature difference to sway me toward it. mine runs turbo at 4.3ghz and it never gets above 45 degrees Celsius. i also have 3 fans in the general area not counting the fan on the 212


That's pretty interesting considering my friend ran a h100i on his 8350 and stock idled at about 35 and loaded to about 75. Also interesting is that my overclocked i5-3570k idles at 45 with the h100i. So either my hardware is poop or there is some falsehood in your statement. I believe the latter is true. :/ 

How many case fans did he have in his build though?


He had 6 fans (1 120mm rear, 4 120mms in push/pull on top for h100i [modified], 1 140mm in the front):NZXT Phantom

He was lacking the intake a bit, but had great cooling otherwise. Other than that, considering that even my GTX 770, which definitely has less heat output, runs at a minimum of 28ºC idle and a max of 57ºC load with the Kraken G10 and Corsair H50, makes it honestly unbelievable that the 8350 ran at a max of 45ºC with a 212 EVO Air Cooler.


When it doesn't fully turbo it doesn't get over 50 degrees, but when it doest it goes up to about 4.6ghz and runs around 55-60 degrees so I wasn't completely honest with you but it is very cool for these speeds. My case is a Corsair Carbide series which comes with a 140mm intake on the front and a 120mm exaust on the back, I then added two corsair sp120 high performance fans on the top of the case with one blowing directly onto the 212 evo and one taking air out so that might also be helping alot with my temps.


Okay that makes a bit more sense, thanks for the clarification. I've always heard that for air coolers they were amazing, however I didn't think they could really be "that" good compared to a liquid cooling system. I guess that it makes sense that if you have more metal to conduct the heat to, it should dissipate much better. :p 
a b à CPUs
October 8, 2014 11:56:49 AM

Couple of things to think about based on previous biased answers:

1. Push/pull on an EVO is pointless. Granted it will drop cpu temps by roughly 2°C but that comes with a cost. The additional components surrounding the cpu cooler, especially the VRM's rely on 'bleed' air, which is air that escapes from the sides of the cooler. Adding a pull fan eliminates that bleed, raising VRM temps, which kills OC.

2. Huge difference between a 6 core 95w fx6300 and a 125w 8 core fx8350' heat output at OC speeds. Of course you'll get more speed out of the 6300 for the same temp as a lower clocked 8350. Even if you figure the 180w capable hyper212, the room available for OC is much greater in the 6300.

3. Has anyone even given consideration to ambient temps? Coolers work on temp deltas, in other words, the difference between cpu and ambient temps. The nh-d14 / h80i are good for 10° or less over ambient, so if it's 35°C by pc, at stock speeds you are going to see idle temps around 45°C. Idle temps, not load. It's not unheard of to see load temps at stock speeds in the 80s with a h100i, simply because of ambient temps.

4. Case airflow. Way more important than the amount of fans or even type of fans used. Cool air in, hot air out, and done expeditiously in a smooth flow is what is needed. Disrupt that with fans creating turbulence, hdd cages impeding flow, bad wire routing etc and case temps go up, air through the cpu cooler is warmer and less efficient, cpu temps go up etc etc etc.

5. Fans work on a vacuum. The byproduct is air blown out the rear of the fan. Having a top mounted intake right next to an exhaust is nuts. The vacuum created (draw) of the intake is sucking warm air from the exhaust and blowing it back into the case. While this may seem beneficial to be blowing air across the cooler, over an extended period of time, when that exhaust air really starts to get warm, so will that intake, and instead of pushing cooler air from the lower intake across the cooler, you end up pushing hot air from the exhaust across the cooler, raising the apparent ambient temp across the top of the case. Like I said, nuts.

6. Cpu coolers work on potential, commonly thought of, if incorrectly, as TDP. Any stock cooler will have @ 5° or so higher TDP than the cpu it's designed for. So stock speeds at load are OK. Good luck with any OC unless you get lucky with a good cpu that will clock high with lower than stock voltages. TDP of the hyper212 is 180w, or for most cpus, this is @ 4.3-4.5. TDP of the h80i is 200+. All that means is the potential is greater. You may or may not see the same temps as the hyper212, the h80i may run only a few °C cooler, but beyond 180w the hyper212 just won't cool any more and the temps skyrocket very quickly, whereas the h80i will still be under 70ish when the hyper212 is beyond 90ish.

7. That's all that matters. Keeping the cpu under TDP, cus it honestly doesn't care, or make a hill of beans difference if it's running at 45° or 69° when under load.
October 8, 2014 12:39:06 PM

Just to add some reference, here is my current I5-3570k Ivy-Bridge setup with the Corsair h100i:

BCLK Freq. : 100Mhz
Multiplier: 48x
Core: 4.8 Ghz / 4800 Mhz

Stock Vcore: 1.25
Voltage Offset: +0.215
OC Vcore: 1.465

Usual Case Temp: 25ºC
Max Observed CPU Temp: 85ºC
ºC/W rating: 0.4027

According to eXtreme's calculator: 149 watts


An extra reference: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7738/closed-loop-aio-liqu...
!