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It's that time again! Time to update the Tom's Hardware BestConfigs! Once again, we are opening the field to user recommendations to get the best consensus for the absolute best of the best in each category. Post the best configuration you can put together for the following build category and our editorial team will pick 5 of the best to be put up to a public vote right here in the Systems forum. The top-ranking build will go on to become one of Tom's Hardware BestConfigs and you'll get the credit for having put together a brilliant build with a special credit in the feature article.
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Post your entries to this thread for the category of:
High-End Workstation
Stay within $4000 (without shipping) and no need to include OS, monitor, mouse/keyboard. To keep things fair and level the playing field, we ask that you restrict your product links to Newegg or Amazon. Please be sure to format your list of components as follows:
Joe's Uber-Compiler and Render Beast
Processor: Component Name and Component Price
Motherboard: Component Name and Component Price
RAM: Component Name and Component Price
Graphics Card: Component Name and Component Price
Hard Drive: Component Name and Component Price
Case: Component Name and Component Price
Power Supply: Component Name and Component Price
Cooling: Component Name and Component Price
DVD Burner: Component Name and Component Price
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bambiboom
August 5, 2013 11:10:33 AM
BestConfigs for the Coinfigs: High End Workstation_ 8.5.13
The central problem in specifying a workstation has to be the combination of a variety of tasks that are also the most demanding of hardware performance. Hardware is software driven < the first principal is to identify the software that will accomplish the task to the expected quality and then research the corresponding hardware that will produce that quality and at the expected speed.
And as applications become more capable > more specialized, the corresponding hardware becomes more specialized in order to perform it. A workstation system that is optimized for imaging has to be further considered in it's relative ability for rendering (=more cores, higher CPU clock speed, error correcting RAM), video editing (wide bandwidth, more video memory, animation (=polygon shifting, so high CPU clock speed) , 3D modeling (CPU and GPU intensive, single and double precision performance), graphic design (implications for CPU and GPU, error correcting RAM), mechanical, thermal, particle simulation and financial analysis (highly CPUcentric). Some mathematical, scientific, and financial analytics are also CUDA accelerated and some can use multiple cores. The error-correcting RAM is necessary in 3D modeling and rendering for the accurate placement of polygons and particles, such that shadows, lighting and color gradients are refined, the workstation drivers are configured and are enabled to produce high levels of anti-aliasing. Once you've had 128x, you'll never go back to 16x. Some applications using viewports that generate automatic views, sections, and details can only work with workstation drivers. There is then the dual consideration of a quality / precision priority but with a speed / performance time-is-money desirability.
The complications of optimization are complicated not only by specialized applications, but also by the variety of application architectures and the modes of optimization. While rendering- a central application in imaging as it represents the final product of 3D modeling / animation- can use all the available CPU cores / threads, there are also some GPU rendering applications. Further, some of the most common professional imaging applications such as Autodesk (AutoCad, Revit, Maya, Inventor), Adobe (CS), and Dessault (Solidworks, CATIA) , are now in varying degrees still mostly single-threaded, do not support SLI / Crossfire have been traditionally CUDA oriented, but are also moving towards more OpenCL, OpenGL, and DirectX optimization. But, the move towards, for example, OpenCL, is not even uniform within Autodesk and Adobe is using it mainly in Premier Pro (since CS5) while other CS 6 applications are still CUDA-esque. There are even more levels of complication since the important realm of CUDA-accelerated applications can benefit from GPU CUDA coprocessing (Tesla), but this requires the workstation drivers- Quadro, or, in the case of mathematical applications such as MATLAB, the custom algorithms and code that can run on multiple cores.
While all this may at first seem a head-spinning, vertigo-inducing nightmare, it will seem even worse on second, third, and seventy-fourth consideration. Of course, up to a fairly high level of quality expectation, content consumption hardware is useful in content creation, but for a "high-end" workstation, the quality intention is paramount, with reliability / reliability, and speed secondary. What is clear is that the emphasis of an optimized workstation applications depend on calculation precision to produce high quality > analytics (mathematics, scientific interpolation, data extraction, extrapolation, logistical) image quality, animation, image processing, and simulation, rather than image frame rates is consequential of hardware that necessarily different from applications optimized for image speed such as gaming.
The specification following is a best attempt to configure a system within the budget that is capable over the widest range of typical workstation tasks of the highest quality/ precision and best speed.
Motherboard > The Asus Z9PE-D16/2L dual LGA 2011 motherboard uses the Intel C602 chipset and is a very good performer with an excellent configuration of 16 RAM slots supporting 512GB ECC RAM, PCIe 3.0 slots, SATA 3, USB 3, and etc. A very important feature is that by having a dual CPU board, the system can be upgraded with two Xeon 8 core /16 thread or two 12-core/ 24 thread CPU's, and that will also double the potential RAM to a mximum of 512GB. A 24 core / 48 thread system would be astoundingly good at rendering. A dual CPU also provides more PCIe lanes, such that Tesla or Xeon Phi coprocessors may be added.
CPU > The recently released Xeon E5-1650 v2 has a high clock speed (3.5 / 3.9GHz) good cache (12MB) and importantly, six cores / twelve threads that may be employed for rendering or scientific / analytic applications that can use all the threads they can find. This excellent CPU is also economical at $600 and was chosen to lower system cost- and substitution costs that can be applied to a future upgrade to dual CPU's. In effect, the CPU is high performance but at the best price point to allow for lower costs if substituted with dual CPU's, bringing this system still comfortably under the budget.
RAM > 64GB ECC RAM for multi-tasking large files
GPU> The Quadro K4000 with 3GB and 768 CUDA cores is an excellent performer for 3D modeling, image processing, video editing, and high resolution display. A large, high quality case is essential in my view to allow for a large number of drives, good air flow / cooling, and very important- quiet.
DRIVES> This uses the astoundingly fast 512GB Samsung 840 pro for the OS and Applications and working files and which are saved to pair of Western Digital Black 2TB drives in RAID 1 for data protection. The optical drive is Blu-Ray to accommodate very large files and video processing intended for Blu-ray.
This is an excellent exercise as it stimulates a consideration and discussion of priorities (quality, speed, reliability, capacities, cost), and especially the relationship of hardware to software.
This system was revised 10.21.13 in response to the recent release of the Xeon E5-1650 V2 and the new Western Digital Black series having 1TB platters.
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Processor: Processor: Intel Xeon Six-Core Processor E5-1650 v2 3.5 / 3.9GHz 0GT/s 12MB LGA 2011 CPU, OEM > $600 (Not available Amazon or Newegg )
____ http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=E5-1650V2
____ http://ark.intel.com/products/75780/Intel-Xeon-Processo...
Motherboard: Asus Z9PE-D16/2L Server Motherboard - Intel C602-A Chipset -dual Socket R LGA-2011 > $380.
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM: Kingston 64GB (4 x 16GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM ECC Registered DDR3 1600 Server Memory DR x4 Model KVR16R11D4K4/64 > $656.
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Graphics Card: NVIDIA / HP Quadro K4000 3GB GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 Workstation Video Card > $754
____ http://www.amazon.com/HP-Quadro-K4000-Graphic-Card/dp/B...
Hard Drive 1: SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD512BW 2.5" 512GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) > $470. (OS , Applications, Working Files)
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Hard Drive 2: Western Digital 2 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive, Black, WD2003FZEX(RAID 1) > $168 (Files, Backup, System Image)
Hard Drive 3: Western Digital 2 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive, Black, WD2003FZEX (RAID 1) > $168 (Files, Backup, System Image)
____ http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Cache-Desktop-WD2...
Case: Corsair Obsidian Series 900D CC-9011022-WW Black Aluminum ATX Super Tower Computer Case $349.99
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Power Supply: SeaSonic G-750 SSR-750RM 750W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply $125.
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Cooling: Noctua NH-U12S 120x120x25 ( NF-F12 PWM) SSO2-Bearing ( Self-stabilizing oil-pressure bearing ) CPU Cooler $70
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD Burner: ASUS Black 16X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 5X DVD-RAM 12X BD-ROM SATA Blu-ray Burner BW-16D1HT > $109.99
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
TOTAL = $3,851.
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The task presented was to specify the best workstation within the $4,000 budget, but it seemed also useful to consider looking at ways that a similar level of quality and performance might be achieved for a noticeably smaller sum. This can be seen as a consideration of priority in terms of optimizing for particular uses, by adapting the hardware to the software. In consideration of the fact that most applications are single-threaded, so if rendering is a lesser or non-priority, there are two Xeon OEM CPU's that provide very high performance, but for much less money- the E5-1650 (3.2 / 3.8GHZ) six core and E5-1620 (3.6 / 3.9Ghz) four core. The E5-1620 has fewer threads, but keeping in mind that most uses are using only one core, the clock speed is usefully, actually higher than either the E5-1660 in the maximum build and the E5-1650. With substitutions of other components of similar cost/ performance perhaps with less quantity- such as storage capacity, the cost is substantially reduced without a great sacrifice in any parameter. The amount of RAM is kept the same at 32GB as running multiple, large applications is so prevalent. A benefit of the re-proportioning of costs allows suggesting the substitution of the Quadro K4000 with a Quadro 5000 for the E5-1650 version, which will noticeably outperform the K4000 in a number of 3D modeling applications, or the K5000 4GB, which has among the highest levels of performance for workstation cards- sometimes considered the Quadro version of the GTX Titan and capable of the highest level of mathematical, scientific, simulation, 3D modeling and large assembly work inclusing , CUDA, Open CL, Open GL, and DirectX. In the rare instances of GPU-based rendering, the Quadro K5000 should be among the best performers as well as video editing.
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Processor Opt 1: Intel Xeon Six-Core Processor E5-1650 3.2 / 3.8GHz 5.0GT/s 12MB 130W, LGA 2011 CPU, OEM > $579.99 (Passmark Rank = No. 13, CPU score= 11513) (Not available Amazon or Newegg )
____ http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?p=E5-1650&c=fr&pid=...
Processor Opt 2: Intel Xeon Quad-Core Processor E5-1620 3.6GHz 5.0GT/s 10MB 130W, LGA 2011 CPU, OEM > $289.99 (Passmark Rank = No. 39, CPU score= 9186) (Not available Amazon or Newegg )
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?p=E5-1620&c=fr&pid=...
Motherboard: ASUS Z9PA-U8 ATX Server Motherboard, C602 chipset, LGA 2011 > $289.99
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM: Kingston 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM ECC Unbuffered DDR3 1600 Server Memory w/TS Model KVR16E11K4/32 ) > $299.99
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Graphics Card: NVIDIA / HP Quadro K4000 3GB GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 Workstation Video Card > $789.00
____ http://www.amazon.com/HP-Quadro-K4000-Graphic-Card/dp/B...
____OPT'L > Graphics Card (with E5-1650): NVIDIA Quadro 5000 by PNY 2.5GB GDDR5 PCI Express Gen 2 x16 DVI-I DL Dual DisplayPort and Stereo OpenGL, DirectX, CUDA, and OpenCL Profesional Graphics Board, VCQ5000-PB
by PNY > $1,399
____ http://www.amazon.com/PNY-DisplayPort-Profesional-Graph...
____OPT'L > Graphics Card (with E5-1650): NVIDIA Quadro K5000 4GB GDDR5 Graphics card (PNY Part #: VCQK5000-PB) > $1,694.99
____http://www.amazon.com/NVIDIA-Quadro-K5000-Graphics-PNY/...
Hard Drive 1: SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD128BW 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) > $140. (OS , Applications, Working Files)
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
____OPT'L > Hard Drive 1: Samsung 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD256BW 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) > $240. (OS , Applications, Working Files)
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Hard Drive 2: Western Digital WD Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive (RAID 1) > $90 (Files, Backup, System Image)
Hard Drive 3: Western Digital WD Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive(RAID 1) > $90 (Files, Backup, System Image)
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
____OPT'L Hard Drive 2: Western Digital WD Black WD2002FAEX 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM (RAID 1) > $160 (Files, Backup, System Image)
____OPT'L Hard Drive 3: Western Digital WD Black WD2002FAEX 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM (RAID 1) > $160 (Files, Backup, System Image)
___ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case: LIAN LI PC-A75WX Black ATX Full Tower Computer Case > $209.99
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Power Supply: SeaSonic G-750 SSR-750RM 750W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply $125.
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Cooling: Noctua NH-U12S 120x120x25 ( NF-F12 PWM) SSO2-Bearing ( Self-stabilizing oil-pressure bearing ) CPU Cooler $70
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD Burner: LG Black 14X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 5X DVD-RAM 12X BD-ROM 4MB Cache SATA BDXL Blu-ray Burner, Bare Drive, 3D Play Back (WH14NS40) - OEM > $59.99
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
TOTAL = $2,744 with E5-1650, $3,354 with Quadro 5000, $3,599 with Quadro K5000,
TOTAL = $2,454 with E5-1620
Drive Options >
1/ OS /Applications Drive > Add > +$100 for 256GB Samsung 840 Pro
2/ Files, Backup, System Image Drives > Add > +$140 for 2X Western Digital 2TB
With all options, ( maximum build ) of E5-1650, C602, 32GB ECC RAM, Quadro K5000, 256MB SSD, 2X 2TB HD = $3,890
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Follows is the system that summarizes the process of maximizing cost / performance within the widest range of workstation tasks, keeping in mind there are components, especially the Quadro K5000 that may be unnecessarily high performance for non-3D image work.
I believe that the next step above such a system would be a specialist configuration requiring all available threads such as MATLAB, large, high resolution rendering animation, large to super-scale modeling, mathematical, and simulation (automotive, aircraft design, atmospheric, oceanic) particle, demographic / financial, microbiological need to be a dual Xeon six or eight core of at least 3GHz. The use of multiple, low speed Xeons is self-defeating except for some specific applications where the maximum threads are optimized as the CPU cost skews the other components into disproportionately lower performance. A balanced dual Xeon configuration with very high performance (2X E5-2687W, 64Gb RAM, Quadro K5000, and etc) would require the next BestConfigs to have a super-workstation category with an $8,000 budget. These kinds of systems are impossible to predict as the performance parameters shift with each kind of use and the costs have to be put into the most critical components. And, in the case of some scientific, mathematical, and financial tasks, the video card could be very modest, but the system may need 20GB of storage. In my view, unless there is a specific task, the idea of a "best" workstation should be thought of as an equation of the most versatile, highest performance, at the lowest cost.
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Summary > Xeon E5-1650 6-core > ASUS Z9PA-U8 (C602) > 32GB ECC > Noctua NH-U12S cooling > Quadro K5000 (4GB) > Samsung 840 Pro 256GB > 2X Western Digital Black 2TB, LG 14X Blu-ray > Seasonic 750W > Lian Li PC-A75WX Full Tower > $3,890
Processor: Intel Xeon Six-Core Processor E5-1650 3.2 / 3.8GHz 5.0GT/s, 12MB 130W, LGA 2011 CPU, OEM > $579.99 (Passmark Rank = No. 13, CPU score= 11513) (Not available Amazon or Newegg )
____ http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?p=E5-1650&c=fr&pid=...
Motherboard: ASUS Z9PA-U8 ATX Server Motherboard, C602 chipset, LGA 2011 > $289.99
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM: Kingston 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM ECC Unbuffered DDR3 1600 Server Memory w/TS Model KVR16E11K4/32 ) > $299.99
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Graphics Card: NVIDIA Quadro K5000 4GB GDDR5 Graphics card (PNY Part #: VCQK5000-PB) > $1,694.99
____http://www.amazon.com/NVIDIA-Quadro-K5000-Graphics-PNY/...
____ > Hard Drive 1: Samsung 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD256BW 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) > $240. (OS , Applications, Working Files)
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
____ Hard Drive 2: Western Digital WD Black WD2002FAEX 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM (RAID 1) > $160 (Files, Backup, System Image)
____ Hard Drive 3: Western Digital WD Black WD2002FAEX 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM (RAID 1) > $160 (Files, Backup, System Image)
___ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case: LIAN LI PC-A75WX Black ATX Full Tower Computer Case > $209.99
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Power Supply: SeaSonic G-750 SSR-750RM 750W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply $125.
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Cooling: Noctua NH-U12S 120x120x25 ( NF-F12 PWM) SSO2-Bearing ( Self-stabilizing oil-pressure bearing ) CPU Cooler $70
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD Burner: LG Black 14X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 5X DVD-RAM 12X BD-ROM 4MB Cache SATA BDXL Blu-ray Burner, Bare Drive, 3D Play Back (WH14NS40) - OEM > $59.99
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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Total = $3,890
Overbudget Option > In my view, the Corsair 900D would be worth going $30 over budget >
Case: Corsair Obsidian Series 900D CC-9011022-WW Black Aluminum ATX Super Tower Computer Case > $349.99
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Total = $4,030
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Bestconfigs > Budget Workstation
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The idea of a "best" workstation at a certain price is an interesting one as it forces consideration of cost/performance ratios. This is a CAD / graphics workstation for a future BestConfig category of “Budget Workstation > About $1,000”. A Budget Workstation category would be significantly expanded in possibilities if the budget were $1,400 as this would allow a faster Xeon- possibly an E5 LGA 2011, an SSD boot drive and / or backup drive, and a wider variety of Quadro or Firepro graphics cards.
The system is based on a quad core Xeon E3 -1230, ECC, error correcting RAM , multiple RAID configuration capable server /workstation Intel C216 motherboard supporting 32GB, dual LAN, USB 3.0, 6GB/s drives, and mounted in a case that can accommodate three 5.25" drives and six 3.5" drives. The E3-1230 was chosen as it is has a healthy clock speed (3.3 / 3.7GHz), is hyperthreading, as a V2 (Ivy Bridge) as it is 69W instead of the Haswell (V3) 80W. ( Compare to E3-1220 V2 which is not hyperthreading and is rated on Passmark at No. 128, score 6464.) Also, at the moment there are more server / workstation motherboard choices using LGA 1155 than 1150. The Firepro V4900 is very good value at $151, performing similarly to a Quadro 2000 ($382) and substantially better in 3D then the Quadro K600 ($170).
1. CPU > Intel Xeon E3-1230 V2 Ivy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1155, 69W Quad-Core Server Processor BX80637E31230V2 > $235 (As compared to the E3-1220, the 1230 is hyperthreading) ( On Passmark CPU benchmarks, this CPU is rated as No. 50, scoring 8880)
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
2. Motherboard > ASRock C216 WS ATX Server Motherboard LGA 1155 Intel C216 > $183
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
3. Memory > 16GB Kingston (2X 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 ECC Unbuffered Server Memory w/TS Model KVR16E11/8 > $154 ($77 each) (Using 2 X 8GB allows expansion to the full 32GB)
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
4. Graphics Card > AMD 100-505649 FirePro V4900 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 Workstation Video Card > $151
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
5. Storage > Western Digital Black 2 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Bulk/OEM Internal Desktop Hard Drive - WD2002FAEX > $140
____ http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Caviar-Internal-D...
6. Case > Antec Three Hundred Two Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case > $70 ( 3 external 5.25", 6 internal 3.5", USB 3.0)
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
7. Power Supply > SeaSonic S12II 620 Bronze 620W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply > $65 (This power supply is somewhat oversized to accommodate a future 150W graphics card)
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
8. DVD burner > ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM > $20
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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Total= $1,018
Cheers,
BambiBoom
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The central problem in specifying a workstation has to be the combination of a variety of tasks that are also the most demanding of hardware performance. Hardware is software driven < the first principal is to identify the software that will accomplish the task to the expected quality and then research the corresponding hardware that will produce that quality and at the expected speed.
And as applications become more capable > more specialized, the corresponding hardware becomes more specialized in order to perform it. A workstation system that is optimized for imaging has to be further considered in it's relative ability for rendering (=more cores, higher CPU clock speed, error correcting RAM), video editing (wide bandwidth, more video memory, animation (=polygon shifting, so high CPU clock speed) , 3D modeling (CPU and GPU intensive, single and double precision performance), graphic design (implications for CPU and GPU, error correcting RAM), mechanical, thermal, particle simulation and financial analysis (highly CPUcentric). Some mathematical, scientific, and financial analytics are also CUDA accelerated and some can use multiple cores. The error-correcting RAM is necessary in 3D modeling and rendering for the accurate placement of polygons and particles, such that shadows, lighting and color gradients are refined, the workstation drivers are configured and are enabled to produce high levels of anti-aliasing. Once you've had 128x, you'll never go back to 16x. Some applications using viewports that generate automatic views, sections, and details can only work with workstation drivers. There is then the dual consideration of a quality / precision priority but with a speed / performance time-is-money desirability.
The complications of optimization are complicated not only by specialized applications, but also by the variety of application architectures and the modes of optimization. While rendering- a central application in imaging as it represents the final product of 3D modeling / animation- can use all the available CPU cores / threads, there are also some GPU rendering applications. Further, some of the most common professional imaging applications such as Autodesk (AutoCad, Revit, Maya, Inventor), Adobe (CS), and Dessault (Solidworks, CATIA) , are now in varying degrees still mostly single-threaded, do not support SLI / Crossfire have been traditionally CUDA oriented, but are also moving towards more OpenCL, OpenGL, and DirectX optimization. But, the move towards, for example, OpenCL, is not even uniform within Autodesk and Adobe is using it mainly in Premier Pro (since CS5) while other CS 6 applications are still CUDA-esque. There are even more levels of complication since the important realm of CUDA-accelerated applications can benefit from GPU CUDA coprocessing (Tesla), but this requires the workstation drivers- Quadro, or, in the case of mathematical applications such as MATLAB, the custom algorithms and code that can run on multiple cores.
While all this may at first seem a head-spinning, vertigo-inducing nightmare, it will seem even worse on second, third, and seventy-fourth consideration. Of course, up to a fairly high level of quality expectation, content consumption hardware is useful in content creation, but for a "high-end" workstation, the quality intention is paramount, with reliability / reliability, and speed secondary. What is clear is that the emphasis of an optimized workstation applications depend on calculation precision to produce high quality > analytics (mathematics, scientific interpolation, data extraction, extrapolation, logistical) image quality, animation, image processing, and simulation, rather than image frame rates is consequential of hardware that necessarily different from applications optimized for image speed such as gaming.
The specification following is a best attempt to configure a system within the budget that is capable over the widest range of typical workstation tasks of the highest quality/ precision and best speed.
Motherboard > The Asus Z9PE-D16/2L dual LGA 2011 motherboard uses the Intel C602 chipset and is a very good performer with an excellent configuration of 16 RAM slots supporting 512GB ECC RAM, PCIe 3.0 slots, SATA 3, USB 3, and etc. A very important feature is that by having a dual CPU board, the system can be upgraded with two Xeon 8 core /16 thread or two 12-core/ 24 thread CPU's, and that will also double the potential RAM to a mximum of 512GB. A 24 core / 48 thread system would be astoundingly good at rendering. A dual CPU also provides more PCIe lanes, such that Tesla or Xeon Phi coprocessors may be added.
CPU > The recently released Xeon E5-1650 v2 has a high clock speed (3.5 / 3.9GHz) good cache (12MB) and importantly, six cores / twelve threads that may be employed for rendering or scientific / analytic applications that can use all the threads they can find. This excellent CPU is also economical at $600 and was chosen to lower system cost- and substitution costs that can be applied to a future upgrade to dual CPU's. In effect, the CPU is high performance but at the best price point to allow for lower costs if substituted with dual CPU's, bringing this system still comfortably under the budget.
RAM > 64GB ECC RAM for multi-tasking large files
GPU> The Quadro K4000 with 3GB and 768 CUDA cores is an excellent performer for 3D modeling, image processing, video editing, and high resolution display. A large, high quality case is essential in my view to allow for a large number of drives, good air flow / cooling, and very important- quiet.
DRIVES> This uses the astoundingly fast 512GB Samsung 840 pro for the OS and Applications and working files and which are saved to pair of Western Digital Black 2TB drives in RAID 1 for data protection. The optical drive is Blu-Ray to accommodate very large files and video processing intended for Blu-ray.
This is an excellent exercise as it stimulates a consideration and discussion of priorities (quality, speed, reliability, capacities, cost), and especially the relationship of hardware to software.
This system was revised 10.21.13 in response to the recent release of the Xeon E5-1650 V2 and the new Western Digital Black series having 1TB platters.
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Processor: Processor: Intel Xeon Six-Core Processor E5-1650 v2 3.5 / 3.9GHz 0GT/s 12MB LGA 2011 CPU, OEM > $600 (Not available Amazon or Newegg )
____ http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=E5-1650V2
____ http://ark.intel.com/products/75780/Intel-Xeon-Processo...
Motherboard: Asus Z9PE-D16/2L Server Motherboard - Intel C602-A Chipset -dual Socket R LGA-2011 > $380.
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM: Kingston 64GB (4 x 16GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM ECC Registered DDR3 1600 Server Memory DR x4 Model KVR16R11D4K4/64 > $656.
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Graphics Card: NVIDIA / HP Quadro K4000 3GB GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 Workstation Video Card > $754
____ http://www.amazon.com/HP-Quadro-K4000-Graphic-Card/dp/B...
Hard Drive 1: SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD512BW 2.5" 512GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) > $470. (OS , Applications, Working Files)
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Hard Drive 2: Western Digital 2 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive, Black, WD2003FZEX(RAID 1) > $168 (Files, Backup, System Image)
Hard Drive 3: Western Digital 2 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive, Black, WD2003FZEX (RAID 1) > $168 (Files, Backup, System Image)
____ http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Cache-Desktop-WD2...
Case: Corsair Obsidian Series 900D CC-9011022-WW Black Aluminum ATX Super Tower Computer Case $349.99
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Power Supply: SeaSonic G-750 SSR-750RM 750W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply $125.
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Cooling: Noctua NH-U12S 120x120x25 ( NF-F12 PWM) SSO2-Bearing ( Self-stabilizing oil-pressure bearing ) CPU Cooler $70
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD Burner: ASUS Black 16X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 5X DVD-RAM 12X BD-ROM SATA Blu-ray Burner BW-16D1HT > $109.99
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
TOTAL = $3,851.
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The task presented was to specify the best workstation within the $4,000 budget, but it seemed also useful to consider looking at ways that a similar level of quality and performance might be achieved for a noticeably smaller sum. This can be seen as a consideration of priority in terms of optimizing for particular uses, by adapting the hardware to the software. In consideration of the fact that most applications are single-threaded, so if rendering is a lesser or non-priority, there are two Xeon OEM CPU's that provide very high performance, but for much less money- the E5-1650 (3.2 / 3.8GHZ) six core and E5-1620 (3.6 / 3.9Ghz) four core. The E5-1620 has fewer threads, but keeping in mind that most uses are using only one core, the clock speed is usefully, actually higher than either the E5-1660 in the maximum build and the E5-1650. With substitutions of other components of similar cost/ performance perhaps with less quantity- such as storage capacity, the cost is substantially reduced without a great sacrifice in any parameter. The amount of RAM is kept the same at 32GB as running multiple, large applications is so prevalent. A benefit of the re-proportioning of costs allows suggesting the substitution of the Quadro K4000 with a Quadro 5000 for the E5-1650 version, which will noticeably outperform the K4000 in a number of 3D modeling applications, or the K5000 4GB, which has among the highest levels of performance for workstation cards- sometimes considered the Quadro version of the GTX Titan and capable of the highest level of mathematical, scientific, simulation, 3D modeling and large assembly work inclusing , CUDA, Open CL, Open GL, and DirectX. In the rare instances of GPU-based rendering, the Quadro K5000 should be among the best performers as well as video editing.
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Processor Opt 1: Intel Xeon Six-Core Processor E5-1650 3.2 / 3.8GHz 5.0GT/s 12MB 130W, LGA 2011 CPU, OEM > $579.99 (Passmark Rank = No. 13, CPU score= 11513) (Not available Amazon or Newegg )
____ http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?p=E5-1650&c=fr&pid=...
Processor Opt 2: Intel Xeon Quad-Core Processor E5-1620 3.6GHz 5.0GT/s 10MB 130W, LGA 2011 CPU, OEM > $289.99 (Passmark Rank = No. 39, CPU score= 9186) (Not available Amazon or Newegg )
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?p=E5-1620&c=fr&pid=...
Motherboard: ASUS Z9PA-U8 ATX Server Motherboard, C602 chipset, LGA 2011 > $289.99
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM: Kingston 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM ECC Unbuffered DDR3 1600 Server Memory w/TS Model KVR16E11K4/32 ) > $299.99
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Graphics Card: NVIDIA / HP Quadro K4000 3GB GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 Workstation Video Card > $789.00
____ http://www.amazon.com/HP-Quadro-K4000-Graphic-Card/dp/B...
____OPT'L > Graphics Card (with E5-1650): NVIDIA Quadro 5000 by PNY 2.5GB GDDR5 PCI Express Gen 2 x16 DVI-I DL Dual DisplayPort and Stereo OpenGL, DirectX, CUDA, and OpenCL Profesional Graphics Board, VCQ5000-PB
by PNY > $1,399
____ http://www.amazon.com/PNY-DisplayPort-Profesional-Graph...
____OPT'L > Graphics Card (with E5-1650): NVIDIA Quadro K5000 4GB GDDR5 Graphics card (PNY Part #: VCQK5000-PB) > $1,694.99
____http://www.amazon.com/NVIDIA-Quadro-K5000-Graphics-PNY/...
Hard Drive 1: SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD128BW 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) > $140. (OS , Applications, Working Files)
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
____OPT'L > Hard Drive 1: Samsung 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD256BW 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) > $240. (OS , Applications, Working Files)
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Hard Drive 2: Western Digital WD Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive (RAID 1) > $90 (Files, Backup, System Image)
Hard Drive 3: Western Digital WD Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive(RAID 1) > $90 (Files, Backup, System Image)
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
____OPT'L Hard Drive 2: Western Digital WD Black WD2002FAEX 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM (RAID 1) > $160 (Files, Backup, System Image)
____OPT'L Hard Drive 3: Western Digital WD Black WD2002FAEX 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM (RAID 1) > $160 (Files, Backup, System Image)
___ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case: LIAN LI PC-A75WX Black ATX Full Tower Computer Case > $209.99
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Power Supply: SeaSonic G-750 SSR-750RM 750W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply $125.
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Cooling: Noctua NH-U12S 120x120x25 ( NF-F12 PWM) SSO2-Bearing ( Self-stabilizing oil-pressure bearing ) CPU Cooler $70
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD Burner: LG Black 14X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 5X DVD-RAM 12X BD-ROM 4MB Cache SATA BDXL Blu-ray Burner, Bare Drive, 3D Play Back (WH14NS40) - OEM > $59.99
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
TOTAL = $2,744 with E5-1650, $3,354 with Quadro 5000, $3,599 with Quadro K5000,
TOTAL = $2,454 with E5-1620
Drive Options >
1/ OS /Applications Drive > Add > +$100 for 256GB Samsung 840 Pro
2/ Files, Backup, System Image Drives > Add > +$140 for 2X Western Digital 2TB
With all options, ( maximum build ) of E5-1650, C602, 32GB ECC RAM, Quadro K5000, 256MB SSD, 2X 2TB HD = $3,890
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Follows is the system that summarizes the process of maximizing cost / performance within the widest range of workstation tasks, keeping in mind there are components, especially the Quadro K5000 that may be unnecessarily high performance for non-3D image work.
I believe that the next step above such a system would be a specialist configuration requiring all available threads such as MATLAB, large, high resolution rendering animation, large to super-scale modeling, mathematical, and simulation (automotive, aircraft design, atmospheric, oceanic) particle, demographic / financial, microbiological need to be a dual Xeon six or eight core of at least 3GHz. The use of multiple, low speed Xeons is self-defeating except for some specific applications where the maximum threads are optimized as the CPU cost skews the other components into disproportionately lower performance. A balanced dual Xeon configuration with very high performance (2X E5-2687W, 64Gb RAM, Quadro K5000, and etc) would require the next BestConfigs to have a super-workstation category with an $8,000 budget. These kinds of systems are impossible to predict as the performance parameters shift with each kind of use and the costs have to be put into the most critical components. And, in the case of some scientific, mathematical, and financial tasks, the video card could be very modest, but the system may need 20GB of storage. In my view, unless there is a specific task, the idea of a "best" workstation should be thought of as an equation of the most versatile, highest performance, at the lowest cost.
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Summary > Xeon E5-1650 6-core > ASUS Z9PA-U8 (C602) > 32GB ECC > Noctua NH-U12S cooling > Quadro K5000 (4GB) > Samsung 840 Pro 256GB > 2X Western Digital Black 2TB, LG 14X Blu-ray > Seasonic 750W > Lian Li PC-A75WX Full Tower > $3,890
Processor: Intel Xeon Six-Core Processor E5-1650 3.2 / 3.8GHz 5.0GT/s, 12MB 130W, LGA 2011 CPU, OEM > $579.99 (Passmark Rank = No. 13, CPU score= 11513) (Not available Amazon or Newegg )
____ http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?p=E5-1650&c=fr&pid=...
Motherboard: ASUS Z9PA-U8 ATX Server Motherboard, C602 chipset, LGA 2011 > $289.99
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM: Kingston 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM ECC Unbuffered DDR3 1600 Server Memory w/TS Model KVR16E11K4/32 ) > $299.99
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Graphics Card: NVIDIA Quadro K5000 4GB GDDR5 Graphics card (PNY Part #: VCQK5000-PB) > $1,694.99
____http://www.amazon.com/NVIDIA-Quadro-K5000-Graphics-PNY/...
____ > Hard Drive 1: Samsung 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD256BW 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) > $240. (OS , Applications, Working Files)
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
____ Hard Drive 2: Western Digital WD Black WD2002FAEX 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM (RAID 1) > $160 (Files, Backup, System Image)
____ Hard Drive 3: Western Digital WD Black WD2002FAEX 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM (RAID 1) > $160 (Files, Backup, System Image)
___ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case: LIAN LI PC-A75WX Black ATX Full Tower Computer Case > $209.99
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Power Supply: SeaSonic G-750 SSR-750RM 750W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply $125.
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Cooling: Noctua NH-U12S 120x120x25 ( NF-F12 PWM) SSO2-Bearing ( Self-stabilizing oil-pressure bearing ) CPU Cooler $70
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD Burner: LG Black 14X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 5X DVD-RAM 12X BD-ROM 4MB Cache SATA BDXL Blu-ray Burner, Bare Drive, 3D Play Back (WH14NS40) - OEM > $59.99
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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Total = $3,890
Overbudget Option > In my view, the Corsair 900D would be worth going $30 over budget >
Case: Corsair Obsidian Series 900D CC-9011022-WW Black Aluminum ATX Super Tower Computer Case > $349.99
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Total = $4,030
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Bestconfigs > Budget Workstation
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The idea of a "best" workstation at a certain price is an interesting one as it forces consideration of cost/performance ratios. This is a CAD / graphics workstation for a future BestConfig category of “Budget Workstation > About $1,000”. A Budget Workstation category would be significantly expanded in possibilities if the budget were $1,400 as this would allow a faster Xeon- possibly an E5 LGA 2011, an SSD boot drive and / or backup drive, and a wider variety of Quadro or Firepro graphics cards.
The system is based on a quad core Xeon E3 -1230, ECC, error correcting RAM , multiple RAID configuration capable server /workstation Intel C216 motherboard supporting 32GB, dual LAN, USB 3.0, 6GB/s drives, and mounted in a case that can accommodate three 5.25" drives and six 3.5" drives. The E3-1230 was chosen as it is has a healthy clock speed (3.3 / 3.7GHz), is hyperthreading, as a V2 (Ivy Bridge) as it is 69W instead of the Haswell (V3) 80W. ( Compare to E3-1220 V2 which is not hyperthreading and is rated on Passmark at No. 128, score 6464.) Also, at the moment there are more server / workstation motherboard choices using LGA 1155 than 1150. The Firepro V4900 is very good value at $151, performing similarly to a Quadro 2000 ($382) and substantially better in 3D then the Quadro K600 ($170).
1. CPU > Intel Xeon E3-1230 V2 Ivy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1155, 69W Quad-Core Server Processor BX80637E31230V2 > $235 (As compared to the E3-1220, the 1230 is hyperthreading) ( On Passmark CPU benchmarks, this CPU is rated as No. 50, scoring 8880)
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
2. Motherboard > ASRock C216 WS ATX Server Motherboard LGA 1155 Intel C216 > $183
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
3. Memory > 16GB Kingston (2X 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 ECC Unbuffered Server Memory w/TS Model KVR16E11/8 > $154 ($77 each) (Using 2 X 8GB allows expansion to the full 32GB)
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
4. Graphics Card > AMD 100-505649 FirePro V4900 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 Workstation Video Card > $151
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
5. Storage > Western Digital Black 2 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Bulk/OEM Internal Desktop Hard Drive - WD2002FAEX > $140
____ http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Caviar-Internal-D...
6. Case > Antec Three Hundred Two Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case > $70 ( 3 external 5.25", 6 internal 3.5", USB 3.0)
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
7. Power Supply > SeaSonic S12II 620 Bronze 620W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply > $65 (This power supply is somewhat oversized to accommodate a future 150W graphics card)
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
8. DVD burner > ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM > $20
____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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Total= $1,018
Cheers,
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[ Dell Precision T5400 > 2X Xeon X5460 quad core @3.16GHz > 16GB ECC 667> Quadro FX 4800 (1.5GB) > WD RE4 / Segt Brcda 500GB > Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit > HP 2711x 27" 1920 x 1080 > AutoCad, Revit, Solidworks, Sketchup Pro, Corel Technical Designer, Adobe CS MC, WordP Office, MS Office > architecture, industrial design, graphic design, rendering, writing ]
[ HP z420 > Xeon E5-1620 quad core @3.6 / 3.8GHz > 24GB ECC 1600 > Quadro K4000 (3GB) > Samsung 840 250GB / Seagate Barracuda 500GB > Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit > HP 2711x 27" 1920 x 1080 > AutoCad, Revit, Solidworks, Sketchup Pro, Corel Technical Designer, Adobe CS MC, WordP Office, MS Office > architecture, industrial design, graphic design, rendering, writing ]
refllect
August 5, 2013 11:58:30 AM
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master RL-EB24-16FK-R1 60.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($185.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($309.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M4 512GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($383.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES.3 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($377.04 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital VelociRaptor 1TB 3.5" 10000RPM Internal Hard Drive ($211.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($689.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($689.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Silverstone FT04B-W ATX Full Tower Case ($217.47 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Pro Platinum 1000W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($254.36 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG BT30N Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($85.19 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $3865.97
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-05 14:58 EDT-0400)
CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master RL-EB24-16FK-R1 60.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($185.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($309.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M4 512GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($383.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES.3 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($377.04 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital VelociRaptor 1TB 3.5" 10000RPM Internal Hard Drive ($211.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($689.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($689.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Silverstone FT04B-W ATX Full Tower Case ($217.47 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Pro Platinum 1000W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($254.36 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG BT30N Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($85.19 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $3865.97
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-05 14:58 EDT-0400)
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Rafeed Iqbal
August 6, 2013 12:48:15 AM
Rafeed's why are WS GPUs so expensive ? build.
CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($569.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Swiftech H220 55.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($150.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P9X79-E WS SSI CEB LGA2011 Motherboard ($462.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 64GB (8 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($539.26 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial M500 960GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($599.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master Cosmos II (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($369.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic Platinum 1000W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($229.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($52.00 @ Newegg)
Other: AMD 100-505634 FirePro W7000 4GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 CrossFire Supported Workstation Video Card ($699.99)
Total: $3990.15
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-06 03:49 EDT-0400)
CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($569.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Swiftech H220 55.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($150.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P9X79-E WS SSI CEB LGA2011 Motherboard ($462.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 64GB (8 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($539.26 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial M500 960GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($599.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master Cosmos II (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($369.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic Platinum 1000W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($229.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($52.00 @ Newegg)
Other: AMD 100-505634 FirePro W7000 4GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 CrossFire Supported Workstation Video Card ($699.99)
Total: $3990.15
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-06 03:49 EDT-0400)
G-Unit's "Tower Of Power" Build:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($569.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Swiftech H220 55.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($150.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P9X79-E WS SSI CEB LGA2011 Motherboard ($508.94 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Redline 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($299.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vector Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($259.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: ATI FirePro V7900 2GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($630.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: ATI FirePro V7900 2GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($630.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone TJ11B-W ATX Full Tower Case ($599.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000G2 1000W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($207.04 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $3966.85
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-06 19:13 EDT-0400)
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($569.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Swiftech H220 55.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($150.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P9X79-E WS SSI CEB LGA2011 Motherboard ($508.94 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Redline 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($299.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vector Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($259.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: ATI FirePro V7900 2GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($630.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: ATI FirePro V7900 2GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($630.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone TJ11B-W ATX Full Tower Case ($599.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000G2 1000W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($207.04 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $3966.85
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-06 19:13 EDT-0400)
HEXiT
August 6, 2013 11:45:05 PM
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($499.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100 92.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($97.13 @ TigerDirect)
Motherboard: Asus P9X79 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($239.63 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($164.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($155.98 @ PCM)
Video Card: ATI FirePro V7900 2GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($629.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: ATI FirePro V7900 2GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($629.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Antec Eleven Hundred ATX Full Tower Case ($89.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic X Series 1050W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($205.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B3ST/BLK/G/AS DVD/CD Writer ($22.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2976.64
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-07 02:44 EDT-0400)
the rest of the budget would likely go on a 4k screen if i can find 1 good enough for the money...
CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($499.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100 92.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($97.13 @ TigerDirect)
Motherboard: Asus P9X79 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($239.63 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($164.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($155.98 @ PCM)
Video Card: ATI FirePro V7900 2GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($629.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: ATI FirePro V7900 2GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($629.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Antec Eleven Hundred ATX Full Tower Case ($89.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic X Series 1050W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($205.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B3ST/BLK/G/AS DVD/CD Writer ($22.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2976.64
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-07 02:44 EDT-0400)
the rest of the budget would likely go on a 4k screen if i can find 1 good enough for the money...
Rafeed Iqbal
August 7, 2013 12:17:47 AM
HEXiT, manofchalk and g-unit1111 : the V7900 is outdated and and based on the old cayman gpus while the modern equivalent (the W7000 ) is based on the much newer pitcairne gpus. you could add the new W models by listing it as a custom part through pcpartpicker.
a comparison of the old and new gpus
a comparison of the old and new gpus
Its a $1.66 over, but anyway.
All custom parts are priced according too (and are available at) Newegg.
Manofchalks "12-Cores of Fury" Workstation Build.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Gaming Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($259.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($191.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: ATI FirePro V7900 2GB Video Card ($630.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 900D ATX Full Tower Case ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($140.78 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Other: Motherboard: ASUS Z9PE-D8 WS ($580.00)
Other: Intel Xeon E5-2630 ($635.00)
Other: Intel Xeon E5-2630 ($635.00)
Other: Phanteks PH-TC14PE_BK ($80.00)
Total: $4001.66
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-07 03:31 EDT-0400)
EDIT: I cant count, only 12 cores...
All custom parts are priced according too (and are available at) Newegg.
Manofchalks "12-Cores of Fury" Workstation Build.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Gaming Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($259.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($191.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: ATI FirePro V7900 2GB Video Card ($630.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 900D ATX Full Tower Case ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($140.78 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Other: Motherboard: ASUS Z9PE-D8 WS ($580.00)
Other: Intel Xeon E5-2630 ($635.00)
Other: Intel Xeon E5-2630 ($635.00)
Other: Phanteks PH-TC14PE_BK ($80.00)
Total: $4001.66
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-07 03:31 EDT-0400)
EDIT: I cant count, only 12 cores...
HEXiT
August 7, 2013 1:17:49 AM
Rafeed Iqbal said:
HEXiT, manofchalk and g-unit1111 : the V7900 is outdated and and based on the old cayman gpus while the modern equivalent (the W7000 ) is based on the much newer pitcairne gpus. you could add the new W models by listing it as a custom part through pcpartpicker.unless it can match the opencl and compute perfomance of the gpus at a lower price im happy to go with a slightly older solution mate.
but il look at it and consider a change....
Rafeed Iqbal
August 7, 2013 2:40:07 AM
HEXiT said:
Rafeed Iqbal said:
HEXiT, manofchalk and g-unit1111 : the V7900 is outdated and and based on the old cayman gpus while the modern equivalent (the W7000 ) is based on the much newer pitcairne gpus. you could add the new W models by listing it as a custom part through pcpartpicker.unless it can match the opencl and compute perfomance of the gpus at a lower price im happy to go with a slightly older solution mate.
but il look at it and consider a change....
you have lots of money left over in your build so you could easily fit upto 3 firepro W7000s or a Quadro k4000 in it.
AMD 100-505634 FirePro W7000 4GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 CrossFire Supported Workstation Video Card
NVIDIA® Quadro® K4000 VCQK4000-PB 3GB GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 Workstation Video Card
HEXiT
August 7, 2013 3:58:05 AM
adam papas
August 7, 2013 5:19:59 AM
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Arctic Cooling UCACO-P0900-CSB01 Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler ($38.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($185.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($309.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($439.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES.3 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($367.18 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($659.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($659.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Antec P280 ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower Grand 1050W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-2208 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($77.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $3320.07
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-07 08:18 EDT-0400)
CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Arctic Cooling UCACO-P0900-CSB01 Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler ($38.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($185.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($309.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($439.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES.3 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($367.18 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($659.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($659.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Antec P280 ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower Grand 1050W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-2208 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($77.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $3320.07
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-07 08:18 EDT-0400)
dreamstation
August 7, 2013 7:02:50 AM
My Dreamstation PC:
CPU: 2 X Intel Xeon E5-2687W CPU's ($1935 each @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Intel S2600COE SSI EEB Server Motherboard ($600 at Newegg)
CPU Cooler: 2 X Noctua NH-U12S ($70 each @ Newegg)
Memory: 4 X Wintec Server Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) SDRAM ECC Registered DDR3 1600 RAM Modules ($560 each @ Newegg)
Main HDD: 2 X SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series 512GB in RAID 0 ($490 @ Newegg)
Backup HDD: Western Digital RE 4TB ($418 @ Newegg)
Media HDD: 6 X Seagate Cheetah 600GB 15000 RPM SAS 6Gb/s ($300 each @ Newegg)
RAID Card: Areca ARC-1882ix-24-4G RAID Adapter ($1350 @ Newegg)
Graphics Card: PNY NVIDIA Quadro K5000 ($1695 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Enermax Platimax 1350W PSU ($340 @ Newegg)
Computer Case: Lian Li PC-V2120X ($460 at Newegg)
Monitor: 2 X Eizo CG246-BK 24" IPS monitor ($2282 each @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Ducky Shine II DK9008 keyboard (White caps) ($143 @ Newegg)
Mice: SteelSeries Sensei Fnatic Edition Pro Grade Gaming Laser Mouse ($145 @ Newegg)
Pen Tablet: Wacom Cintiq 22HD Touch ($2500 at Newegg)
Speakers: Genelec 6010A monitors ($600 at Amazon)
Pro Audio: Avid Pro Tools HD Native + MADI Bundle ($7000 @ B&H)
Operating System: Windows 8 Pro ($140 @ Newegg)
Additional Software: Avid Symphony 6.5 with Dongle ($5820 @ B&H); Adobe Creative Suite 6 Master Collection ($2600); MS Office Professional 2013 ($410)
Total: $37815
The total price doesn't seem like a lot for a "dream." I decided to include everything because a workstation without the necessary accessories and software will not "work." Suffice to say, this workstation is destined for audio and video creation. And, I decided to choose high end components and software because this is just a dream list, after all, isn't it?
CPU: 2 X Intel Xeon E5-2687W CPU's ($1935 each @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Intel S2600COE SSI EEB Server Motherboard ($600 at Newegg)
CPU Cooler: 2 X Noctua NH-U12S ($70 each @ Newegg)
Memory: 4 X Wintec Server Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) SDRAM ECC Registered DDR3 1600 RAM Modules ($560 each @ Newegg)
Main HDD: 2 X SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series 512GB in RAID 0 ($490 @ Newegg)
Backup HDD: Western Digital RE 4TB ($418 @ Newegg)
Media HDD: 6 X Seagate Cheetah 600GB 15000 RPM SAS 6Gb/s ($300 each @ Newegg)
RAID Card: Areca ARC-1882ix-24-4G RAID Adapter ($1350 @ Newegg)
Graphics Card: PNY NVIDIA Quadro K5000 ($1695 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Enermax Platimax 1350W PSU ($340 @ Newegg)
Computer Case: Lian Li PC-V2120X ($460 at Newegg)
Monitor: 2 X Eizo CG246-BK 24" IPS monitor ($2282 each @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Ducky Shine II DK9008 keyboard (White caps) ($143 @ Newegg)
Mice: SteelSeries Sensei Fnatic Edition Pro Grade Gaming Laser Mouse ($145 @ Newegg)
Pen Tablet: Wacom Cintiq 22HD Touch ($2500 at Newegg)
Speakers: Genelec 6010A monitors ($600 at Amazon)
Pro Audio: Avid Pro Tools HD Native + MADI Bundle ($7000 @ B&H)
Operating System: Windows 8 Pro ($140 @ Newegg)
Additional Software: Avid Symphony 6.5 with Dongle ($5820 @ B&H); Adobe Creative Suite 6 Master Collection ($2600); MS Office Professional 2013 ($410)
Total: $37815
The total price doesn't seem like a lot for a "dream." I decided to include everything because a workstation without the necessary accessories and software will not "work." Suffice to say, this workstation is destined for audio and video creation. And, I decided to choose high end components and software because this is just a dream list, after all, isn't it?
jinayhvora
August 7, 2013 7:13:10 AM
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($569.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U14S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X79-UP4 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($248.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($311.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($223.68 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($223.68 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES.3 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($367.18 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PNY Quadro 5000 2.5GB Video Card ($1636.97 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Stryker (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional Gold 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($171.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $3990.93
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-07 10:28 EDT-0400)
CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($569.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U14S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X79-UP4 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($248.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($311.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($223.68 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($223.68 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES.3 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($367.18 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PNY Quadro 5000 2.5GB Video Card ($1636.97 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Stryker (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional Gold 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($171.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $3990.93
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-07 10:28 EDT-0400)
Cerunnos
August 7, 2013 7:21:19 AM
"Perpetual" Build Mk2
The workstation, the primary workhorse for professionals in anything from 3D design, video editing, to developing code. It requires the utmost reliability, performance, and when disaster strikes, the ease and speed of recovery. The build here is meant to do all of that, in a professional, quiet, and efficient package.
As there was no specified task that this workstation would be focused on, this is a general build that tries to support everything.
Little has changed since the last competition, hence only minor changes in selection.
Why the parts?
- While Sandy Bridge-E is not the latest in CPU technology, it represents one of the best choices for workstations due to its six cores, offering high performance while still being energy efficient and cool. This can easily be swapped with an Ivy Bridge-E 4930K when released, which supposedly has a MSRP of $555 (lower than 3930K) as well as a 200MHz bump in clock speed coupled with small IPC improvements. This LGA2011 system is still (unfortunately) the most suitable choice.
- Why not watercooling? Because it has the potential (regardless of how small) to cause a total system failure. Air cooling is reliable, and thanks to Noctua's staggeringly large (yet compatible), dual (reliable and high quality) fans, heatsink, this system can run at full load indefinitely without overheating.
- While this system is not meant to be overclocked, the overclocking-friendly motherboard was selected because of its high quality components, workstation orientation, and favorable reviews. Ample RAM is supplied for intensive tasks such as Premiere, Photoshop, 3D Design/Rendering Suites, and for virtualization. The Mushkin set has be selected due to its great performance, competitive pricing, and low profile heatspreaders.
- The FirePro card excels at most tasks, but a comparable Quadro card (K4000) can be switched in if the user requires performance where Nvidia Quadro cards are favored and/or CUDA support. The selected W7000 is an efficient, GCN based, professional card that offers great performance for its value.
- The ZXR was selected because of its RCA input and output support, high quality sound, and ASIO support. The card has replaced the Titanium HD from the last build and now supports 5.1 channels along with a high quality headphone amp.
- The 800D for, EATX support, the 4X hot swappable drives, accessible without opening the side panel, allow this system to be kept up fast. The ease of installation, high cooling performance, and professional look only make this an even better choice. The 900D loses one hot swap slot while also being poor on availability and price wise is much higher (over $150).
- The 4X Red drives are to be configured in a RAID10 through the high performance Adaptec RAID card. These will be installed as hot swappable in the case, offering high redundancy as well as performance. If a disk fails, it can be easily swapped out within minutes and does not require time consuming rebuild, unlike RAID5. The 2TB Seagate drive serves as a "scratch disk" that many applications require, or as a temporary storage area. The 2X SSDs are to be used in RAID1 on Intel's X79 chipset SATA III ports, serving as the primary OS and application drive. In the event of a single disk failure, the system will remain operational. They were selected for their "consistent performance... possible through a controller that prioritizes efficient and aggressive defragmentation" - Anandtech.
+ 240GB Protected Fast Boot/Application Drive
+ 4TB Protected Storage
+ 2TB Scratch Space
- The Seasonic based, AX860 PSU was picked for its top notch voltage regulation and high quality build to serve as a rock solid foundation for the system. Being 80 Plus Platinum, it is also very efficient, especially considering this build's sustained power usage under load.
Notes.
- This system build relies on (some which are only valid for a short period of time, but valid as of this posting date Aug/07/2013)...
Promo Discounts: -$17.99
Combo Discounts: -$25.00
Mail-in Rebates: -$70.00
in order to maintain <$4000
- A 2x2.5" to 3.5" bay converter is required and has been added. A Blu-Ray writer and high quality TIM are also included.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($569.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 CPU Cooler ($69.95 @ Amazon)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Cooling MX4 4g Thermal Paste ($9.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P9X79 WS SSI CEB LGA2011 Motherboard ($362.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($319.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Corsair Neutron Series GTX 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($219.99 @ Newegg) [ Boot - RAID1 on Intel X79 (SATA-III) ]
Storage: Corsair Neutron Series GTX 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($219.99 @ Newegg) [ Boot - RAID1 on Intel X79 (SATA-III) ]
Storage: Western Digital Red 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($104.99 @ Amazon) [ Storage - RAID10 on Adaptec in Hotswap Bay ]
Storage: Western Digital Red 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($104.99 @ Amazon) [ Storage - RAID10 on Adaptec in Hotswap Bay ]
Storage: Western Digital Red 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($104.99 @ Amazon) [ Storage - RAID10 on Adaptec in Hotswap Bay ]
Storage: Western Digital Red 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($104.99 @ Amazon) [ Storage - RAID10 on Adaptec in Hotswap Bay ]
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Newegg) [ Scratch Disk on Intel X79 (SATA-II) ]
Video Card: AMD FirePro W7000 4GB GDDR5 4DisplayPort PCI-Express Workstation Graphics Card 100-505634 ($678.27 @ Amazon)
Sound Card: Creative Labs ZXR 24-bit 192 Hz Sound Card ($209.98 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair Obsidian Series 800D ATX Full Tower Case ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 860W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($178.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($52.00 @ Newegg)
Other: Adaptec RAID 6405 2271100-R 6Gb/s SATA/SAS 4 internal ports w/512MB cache memory Controller Card, Kit ($389.99 @ Newegg)
Other: Rosewill RX-C200P 2.5" SSD / HDD Plastic Mounting Kit for 3.5" Drive Bay ($5.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $3993.03
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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The workstation, the primary workhorse for professionals in anything from 3D design, video editing, to developing code. It requires the utmost reliability, performance, and when disaster strikes, the ease and speed of recovery. The build here is meant to do all of that, in a professional, quiet, and efficient package.
As there was no specified task that this workstation would be focused on, this is a general build that tries to support everything.
Little has changed since the last competition, hence only minor changes in selection.
Why the parts?
- While Sandy Bridge-E is not the latest in CPU technology, it represents one of the best choices for workstations due to its six cores, offering high performance while still being energy efficient and cool. This can easily be swapped with an Ivy Bridge-E 4930K when released, which supposedly has a MSRP of $555 (lower than 3930K) as well as a 200MHz bump in clock speed coupled with small IPC improvements. This LGA2011 system is still (unfortunately) the most suitable choice.
- Why not watercooling? Because it has the potential (regardless of how small) to cause a total system failure. Air cooling is reliable, and thanks to Noctua's staggeringly large (yet compatible), dual (reliable and high quality) fans, heatsink, this system can run at full load indefinitely without overheating.
- While this system is not meant to be overclocked, the overclocking-friendly motherboard was selected because of its high quality components, workstation orientation, and favorable reviews. Ample RAM is supplied for intensive tasks such as Premiere, Photoshop, 3D Design/Rendering Suites, and for virtualization. The Mushkin set has be selected due to its great performance, competitive pricing, and low profile heatspreaders.
- The FirePro card excels at most tasks, but a comparable Quadro card (K4000) can be switched in if the user requires performance where Nvidia Quadro cards are favored and/or CUDA support. The selected W7000 is an efficient, GCN based, professional card that offers great performance for its value.
- The ZXR was selected because of its RCA input and output support, high quality sound, and ASIO support. The card has replaced the Titanium HD from the last build and now supports 5.1 channels along with a high quality headphone amp.
- The 800D for, EATX support, the 4X hot swappable drives, accessible without opening the side panel, allow this system to be kept up fast. The ease of installation, high cooling performance, and professional look only make this an even better choice. The 900D loses one hot swap slot while also being poor on availability and price wise is much higher (over $150).
- The 4X Red drives are to be configured in a RAID10 through the high performance Adaptec RAID card. These will be installed as hot swappable in the case, offering high redundancy as well as performance. If a disk fails, it can be easily swapped out within minutes and does not require time consuming rebuild, unlike RAID5. The 2TB Seagate drive serves as a "scratch disk" that many applications require, or as a temporary storage area. The 2X SSDs are to be used in RAID1 on Intel's X79 chipset SATA III ports, serving as the primary OS and application drive. In the event of a single disk failure, the system will remain operational. They were selected for their "consistent performance... possible through a controller that prioritizes efficient and aggressive defragmentation" - Anandtech.
+ 240GB Protected Fast Boot/Application Drive
+ 4TB Protected Storage
+ 2TB Scratch Space
- The Seasonic based, AX860 PSU was picked for its top notch voltage regulation and high quality build to serve as a rock solid foundation for the system. Being 80 Plus Platinum, it is also very efficient, especially considering this build's sustained power usage under load.
Notes.
- This system build relies on (some which are only valid for a short period of time, but valid as of this posting date Aug/07/2013)...
Promo Discounts: -$17.99
Combo Discounts: -$25.00
Mail-in Rebates: -$70.00
in order to maintain <$4000
- A 2x2.5" to 3.5" bay converter is required and has been added. A Blu-Ray writer and high quality TIM are also included.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($569.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 CPU Cooler ($69.95 @ Amazon)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Cooling MX4 4g Thermal Paste ($9.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P9X79 WS SSI CEB LGA2011 Motherboard ($362.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($319.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Corsair Neutron Series GTX 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($219.99 @ Newegg) [ Boot - RAID1 on Intel X79 (SATA-III) ]
Storage: Corsair Neutron Series GTX 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($219.99 @ Newegg) [ Boot - RAID1 on Intel X79 (SATA-III) ]
Storage: Western Digital Red 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($104.99 @ Amazon) [ Storage - RAID10 on Adaptec in Hotswap Bay ]
Storage: Western Digital Red 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($104.99 @ Amazon) [ Storage - RAID10 on Adaptec in Hotswap Bay ]
Storage: Western Digital Red 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($104.99 @ Amazon) [ Storage - RAID10 on Adaptec in Hotswap Bay ]
Storage: Western Digital Red 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($104.99 @ Amazon) [ Storage - RAID10 on Adaptec in Hotswap Bay ]
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Newegg) [ Scratch Disk on Intel X79 (SATA-II) ]
Video Card: AMD FirePro W7000 4GB GDDR5 4DisplayPort PCI-Express Workstation Graphics Card 100-505634 ($678.27 @ Amazon)
Sound Card: Creative Labs ZXR 24-bit 192 Hz Sound Card ($209.98 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair Obsidian Series 800D ATX Full Tower Case ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 860W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($178.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($52.00 @ Newegg)
Other: Adaptec RAID 6405 2271100-R 6Gb/s SATA/SAS 4 internal ports w/512MB cache memory Controller Card, Kit ($389.99 @ Newegg)
Other: Rosewill RX-C200P 2.5" SSD / HDD Plastic Mounting Kit for 3.5" Drive Bay ($5.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $3993.03
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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PatrickHardware
August 7, 2013 7:54:01 AM
Big Black Box
Processor: 2 x Intel Xeon E5-2609 $618.98 ($309.99 each)
Motherboard: SuperMicro X9DR&-LN4F $579.99
RAM: Kingston ValueRAM KVR16R11D4K4/64 $591.99
Graphics Card: EVGA GTX TITAN and $1019.99
Hard Drive: 2 x Samsung 840 Pro 128GB $273.28 (136.64 each)
Case: Lian Li PC-D8000 $359.99
Power Supply: Corsair AX1200i and $314.99
Cooling: 2 x Noctua NH-D14 163.98 ($81.99 each)
Total: 3924.19
Can be upgraded/customized as needed. Including 20 free HDD slots, 5 free 5.25 drives, 12 free DDR3 slots (256GB max using 16gb DIMMs), and 1 free 16x pcie gen3 slot. CPUs can be upgraded to Ivy Bridge EP when available. Also 12 fan slots to cool additional hardware, but should not be needed as spec'd.
There is not much storage in this build, but DAS does not address the needs of many reasonable use scenarios.
Processor: 2 x Intel Xeon E5-2609 $618.98 ($309.99 each)
Motherboard: SuperMicro X9DR&-LN4F $579.99
RAM: Kingston ValueRAM KVR16R11D4K4/64 $591.99
Graphics Card: EVGA GTX TITAN and $1019.99
Hard Drive: 2 x Samsung 840 Pro 128GB $273.28 (136.64 each)
Case: Lian Li PC-D8000 $359.99
Power Supply: Corsair AX1200i and $314.99
Cooling: 2 x Noctua NH-D14 163.98 ($81.99 each)
Total: 3924.19
Can be upgraded/customized as needed. Including 20 free HDD slots, 5 free 5.25 drives, 12 free DDR3 slots (256GB max using 16gb DIMMs), and 1 free 16x pcie gen3 slot. CPUs can be upgraded to Ivy Bridge EP when available. Also 12 fan slots to cool additional hardware, but should not be needed as spec'd.
There is not much storage in this build, but DAS does not address the needs of many reasonable use scenarios.
dreamstation
August 7, 2013 9:23:43 AM
manofchalk said:
There is a $4000 budget
Gotta say, love the keyboard choice.
Oops! Sorry. Didn't read the "fine print," I guess.
Well, here is my updated and within the budget "Realitystation PC:"
CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K ($570 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P9X79 WS ($380 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 32GB (4 x 8GB) 1866 ($310 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 ($85 @ Newegg)
Main HDD: Samsung 840 Pro 512GB SSD ($490 @ Newegg)
Backup HDD: Seagate Constellation 4TB 7200RPM HDD ($390 @ Newegg)
Media HDD: Western Digital VelociRaptor 1TB 10000RPM HDD ($230 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-208DBK Blu-Ray Burner ($70 @ Newegg)
Graphics Card: Nvidia Quadro K4000 ($760 @ Newegg)
Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Sound Card ($180 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic Platinum 1000W PSU ($230 @ Newegg)
Computer Case: SilverStone FT04S-W Silver ($230 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Windows 8 Pro ($140 @ Newegg)
Total: $3,955.59 w/ shipping & tax included
Rafeed Iqbal said:
HEXiT, manofchalk and g-unit1111 : the V7900 is outdated and and based on the old cayman gpus while the modern equivalent (the W7000 ) is based on the much newer pitcairne gpus. you could add the new W models by listing it as a custom part through pcpartpicker.a comparison of the old and new gpus
Yeah but then you add a couple of those in your rig and you're $1500 over budget.
Rafeed Iqbal
August 7, 2013 10:09:55 AM
g-unit1111 said:
Rafeed Iqbal said:
HEXiT, manofchalk and g-unit1111 : the V7900 is outdated and and based on the old cayman gpus while the modern equivalent (the W7000 ) is based on the much newer pitcairne gpus. you could add the new W models by listing it as a custom part through pcpartpicker.a comparison of the old and new gpus
Yeah but then you add a couple of those in your rig and you're $1500 over budget.
2 v7900s (630$ each) = 1260$
2 W7000s (699$ each) = 1400 $
your build has two v7900, you could fit two w7000 with a little scrimping elsewhere.
jinayhvora
August 7, 2013 11:12:38 AM
u cannot SLI Quaddros except on these boards
OK trying this again:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i7-3960X Extreme Edition 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($1069.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Swiftech H220 55.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($150.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asrock X79 Extreme 9 ($344.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($274.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Extreme II 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($229.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($140.04 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Switch 810 (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000G2 1000W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($207.04 @ Newegg)
Graphics Card: ATI Fire Pro W7000 ($699.99)
Graphics Card: ATI Fire Pro W7000 ($699.99)
Total: $3968.99
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i7-3960X Extreme Edition 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($1069.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Swiftech H220 55.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($150.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asrock X79 Extreme 9 ($344.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($274.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Extreme II 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($229.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($140.04 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Switch 810 (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000G2 1000W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($207.04 @ Newegg)
Graphics Card: ATI Fire Pro W7000 ($699.99)
Graphics Card: ATI Fire Pro W7000 ($699.99)
Total: $3968.99
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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mastrom101
August 7, 2013 1:53:20 PM
The 16 core Machine
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
Memory: Corsair XMS 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($214.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($85.98 @ Outlet PC)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Other: ASUS Z9PA-D8 ($369.99)
Other: Intel Xeon E5-2650 ($1119.99)
Other: Intel Xeon E5-2650 ($1119.99)
Other: SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD128BW 2.5" 128GB Bundled with AMD Firepro W7000 ($809.99)
Other: 2 X Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPu coolers ($64.98)
Total: $3972.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
Memory: Corsair XMS 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($214.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($85.98 @ Outlet PC)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Other: ASUS Z9PA-D8 ($369.99)
Other: Intel Xeon E5-2650 ($1119.99)
Other: Intel Xeon E5-2650 ($1119.99)
Other: SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD128BW 2.5" 128GB Bundled with AMD Firepro W7000 ($809.99)
Other: 2 X Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPu coolers ($64.98)
Total: $3972.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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jupiter optimus maximus
August 8, 2013 12:37:14 AM
Titain SLI: 5336 CUDA cores in a μ-atx workstation
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($329.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC14PE_BK 78.1 CFM CPU Cooler ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus GRYPHON Z87 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Stealth 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M500 960GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($599.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX Titan 6GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($1019.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX Titan 6GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($1019.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Silverstone TJ08B-E MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair 760W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $3989.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($329.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC14PE_BK 78.1 CFM CPU Cooler ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus GRYPHON Z87 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Stealth 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M500 960GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($599.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX Titan 6GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($1019.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX Titan 6GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($1019.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Silverstone TJ08B-E MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair 760W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $3989.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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lp231
August 8, 2013 11:25:39 AM
Processor:2x Intel XeonE5-2630 @2.3GHz 6C/12T <$1,269.98@Newegg> $634.99ea
Processor Cooler:2x Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo<$69.98@Newegg> $34.99ea
Motherboard:Asrock EP2C602-4L<$319.99@Newegg>
Memory:2x Kingston 32GB (4x8GB) ECC DDR3 1600<$599.98@Newegg> $299.99ea
Graphic Card:AMD FirePro W5000 2GB<$424.99@Newegg>
Solid State:Samsung 840 500GB<$369.99@Newegg>
Hard Drive:2x Western Digital Black 3TB <$419.98@Newegg> $209.99ea
Optical Drive:LG 24x DVD Writer<$17.99@Newegg>
Power Supply:Evga SuperNova 1300w 80Plus! Gold<$199.99@Newegg>
Case:SilverStone FT04S-W Silver<$229.99@Newegg>
Add on:Syba USB 3.0 PCIe x1 card<$14.99@Newegg>
Free item:2x Team 32GB USB3.0 flash drive Get this with the Hard drive. 1x flash drive per HDD.
Case uses internal USB 3 header, but motherboard does not have.
Connect the case's USB 3 header to the Syba USB 3 card. This will give you 4x USB 3. 2x from the case and 2x from the card itself.
$3,937.85
Processor Cooler:2x Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo<$69.98@Newegg> $34.99ea
Motherboard:Asrock EP2C602-4L<$319.99@Newegg>
Memory:2x Kingston 32GB (4x8GB) ECC DDR3 1600<$599.98@Newegg> $299.99ea
Graphic Card:AMD FirePro W5000 2GB<$424.99@Newegg>
Solid State:Samsung 840 500GB<$369.99@Newegg>
Hard Drive:2x Western Digital Black 3TB <$419.98@Newegg> $209.99ea
Optical Drive:LG 24x DVD Writer<$17.99@Newegg>
Power Supply:Evga SuperNova 1300w 80Plus! Gold<$199.99@Newegg>
Case:SilverStone FT04S-W Silver<$229.99@Newegg>
Add on:Syba USB 3.0 PCIe x1 card<$14.99@Newegg>
Free item:2x Team 32GB USB3.0 flash drive Get this with the Hard drive. 1x flash drive per HDD.
Case uses internal USB 3 header, but motherboard does not have.
Connect the case's USB 3 header to the Syba USB 3 card. This will give you 4x USB 3. 2x from the case and 2x from the card itself.
$3,937.85
mastrom101 said:
The 16 core MachinePCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
Memory: Corsair XMS 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($214.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($85.98 @ Outlet PC)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Other: ASUS Z9PA-D8 ($369.99)
Other: Intel Xeon E5-2650 ($1119.99)
Other: Intel Xeon E5-2650 ($1119.99)
Other: SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD128BW 2.5" 128GB Bundled with AMD Firepro W7000 ($809.99)
Other: 2 X Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPu coolers ($64.98)
Total: $3972.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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You'd need liquid cooling for that setup - there's no way that two heat sinks will fit that close together for a dual CPU motherboard.
TheN00bBuilder
August 10, 2013 8:08:58 PM
Giga Power;
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7990 6GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($594.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7990 6GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($594.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: LEPA G Series 1600W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($280.49 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Other: Intel Xeon E5620 ($394.99)
Other: Intel Xeon E5620 ($394.99)
Other: SUPERMICRO MBD-X8DAH+-F-O ($500.00)
Other: Wintec Server Series 48GB ($409.99)
Other: ARK PC Case ($79.99)
Other: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus ($19.99)
Total: $3515.37
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-10 23:08 EDT-0400)
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7990 6GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($594.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7990 6GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($594.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: LEPA G Series 1600W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($280.49 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Other: Intel Xeon E5620 ($394.99)
Other: Intel Xeon E5620 ($394.99)
Other: SUPERMICRO MBD-X8DAH+-F-O ($500.00)
Other: Wintec Server Series 48GB ($409.99)
Other: ARK PC Case ($79.99)
Other: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus ($19.99)
Total: $3515.37
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-10 23:08 EDT-0400)
OnePersonBandStudio
August 16, 2013 12:33:05 AM
Mr. B writes:
A balanced dual Xeon configuration with very high performance (2X E5-2687W, 64Gb RAM, Quadro K5000, and etc) would require the next BestConfigs to have a super-workstation category with an $8,000 budget.
Any idea what a config might look like for a Maya/Zbrush/CS6 film-making CPU/GPU rendering, particle simulation machine for a one-person-band film studio? Am looking at fast dual Xeons (E5-2670's or E5-2690's), Quadro K5000, 64gigs ECC RAM, (perhaps Maximus) in the $8k range. What acceleration technologies does Maya, AE6, and PP6 need? The idea is maximum creativity, rendering turnaround in this price-range.
A balanced dual Xeon configuration with very high performance (2X E5-2687W, 64Gb RAM, Quadro K5000, and etc) would require the next BestConfigs to have a super-workstation category with an $8,000 budget.
Any idea what a config might look like for a Maya/Zbrush/CS6 film-making CPU/GPU rendering, particle simulation machine for a one-person-band film studio? Am looking at fast dual Xeons (E5-2670's or E5-2690's), Quadro K5000, 64gigs ECC RAM, (perhaps Maximus) in the $8k range. What acceleration technologies does Maya, AE6, and PP6 need? The idea is maximum creativity, rendering turnaround in this price-range.
bambiboom
August 16, 2013 7:41:12 AM
OnePersonBandStudio said:
Mr. B writes:A balanced dual Xeon configuration with very high performance (2X E5-2687W, 64Gb RAM, Quadro K5000, and etc) would require the next BestConfigs to have a super-workstation category with an $8,000 budget.
Any idea what a config might look like for a Maya/Zbrush/CS6 film-making CPU/GPU rendering, particle simulation machine for a one-person-band film studio? Am looking at fast dual Xeons (E5-2670's or E5-2690's), Quadro K5000, 64gigs ECC RAM, (perhaps Maximus) in the $8k range. What acceleration technologies does Maya, AE6, and PP6 need? The idea is maximum creativity, rendering turnaround in this price-range.
OnePersonBandStudio,
To optimize a system for the applications you mention suggests a system with very high performance in all the subsystems > CPU, Memory, GPU, and disk. This is because the applications today are all over the map- and changing in terms of multi-threading, CUDA and OpenCL, OpenGL acceleration as well as becoming larger and increasingly resource hungry. Adobe CS Premiere Pro is becoming multi-theaded and OpenCL.
In general then, such a system having many cores for rendering, ECC RAM for error-correcting for lack of artifacts in both rendering and particle simulation- and by particle I don't mean only the bits they sweep off the floor at CERN , but including smoke, transparency, and reflections, because of precision at which these particles must be placed to make motion appear natural and without jumps and stuttering. A CPU clock speed as is practicable is desirable for effects processing on both sound and video as the processing of effects like reverb and room ambiance is an extremely complex algorithm of progressive waveform smoothing and repetition at varying frequencies and amplitudes. The GPU should have a high bandwidth and lots of memory and if it's Adobe CS and /or Autodesk, CUDA OpenGL, and Open CL capable. The more CUDA cores the better and it possible to see the positive effects on CPU performance benchmarks of CUDA co-processing when a high end GPU like a Quadro 6000 or K5000 is added.
As for choosing components, this is a complicated equation, but with your budget, very high performance is possible.
CPU> With CPU's there is a decrease in speed proportional to the increase in core count. A quad core E5-1620 will run on the first core at 3.8GHz and on all four cores at 3.6, so in single-threaded applications- which is most of Autodesk, Adobe, and Dessault, that $350 CPU will perform as well as a single E5-2687W that will run on it's first core at 3.8 and has the same memory bandwidth and cache per core as the E5-1620, except costing $2,000/ However, with rendering , as many cores as available may be employed so the dual E5-2687W's 16 cores / 32 threads become welcome if not necessary from a business perspective. Dual CPU's also offer much more memory and PCIe slots. I use a dual quad-core system at 3.16GHz and even simple, single renderings are far too time consuming. So, my vote would be for a dual E5-2687W.
Motherboard > I am increasingly fond of the Intel C602. There are a variety of likely boards and the choice is important as not all workstation dual CPU boards support 150W CPU's, though I've seen reports of many systems successfully using boards rated up to 135W. Still, there are a variety of motherboard possibilities and the choice would depend on the chipset and slots preferred.
Memory > As mentioned, ECC at the highest supported speed, currently 1600. The upcoming 12-core E5-2697 2.7 / 3.5GHz, about $3,200) will use 1866. My inclination, since the RAM is divided between the CPU's is to consider 128GB.
GPU > I am of two minds on this one, especially as I've not directly used either of my favorites and am relying on benchmarks and anecdotes. As you may know, workstation application -and as far as I know, Adobe, Dessault, and Autodesk don't support multiple GPU's, so having the highest bandwidth and most memory in a single GPU is desirable. And in this, I am divided between The Quadro K5000 and the Quadro 6000. The Quadro 6000 is 384-bit to the K5000's 256-bit and has 6GB memory and a 144GB's bandwidth while the K5000 has higher clock speeds, 1536 CUDA cores to the 6000's 448, and a bandwidth of 177. The 6000, 6GB is the successor to the FX 5800 which was 4GB and 512-bit and considered the video editing line at the time. My inclination is somewhat inclined towards the 6000, but then the K5000 is significantly less expensive and has all those CUDA cores,... I'm having a similar debate at the moment, one market notch down, which is whether to change from a Quadro FX 4800 (384-bit, 1.5GB) to a Quadro 5000 or K4000. The 5000 is 320-bit, 352 CUDA, 2.5GB and the K4000 is 192-bit. 768 CUDA. Interestingly, the Quadro 5000 in the right system has much higher 3D benchmarks and I keep returning to the 384-bit idea. In the consumer / gaming GeForce line, the GTX 580 (3GB) is supposed to be an excellent video editing, a graphics card "sleeper" better than a GTX 680- and the 580 is 384-bit to the 680's 256.
Drives > A PCIe RAID controller running an SSD for OS and application and a RAID 1+0 for performance- loading, transfer, backup.
Follows is a modification of a system I worked out for someone in the particle physics world and with several options >
BambiBoom PixelCannon Simucadarenderanimatica Supermodeler iWork OnePBandWalletScream II ™?™©®©$_ REV 8.16.13
The following configuration was done in consideration of the best cost /performance basis suitable for high calculation density requirements > Mathematical, Astrophysical, vector analysis, particle, fluid, gas flow, and thermal simulation, statistical analysis, molecular biology, static and dynamic structural, 2D/ 3D CAD modeling, video editing, sound processing, graphic design, rendering, architecture, industrial design, financial analysis. >
1. (2) Intel Xeon E5-2687W Sandy Bridge-EP 3.1GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) 20MB L3 Cache LGA 2011 150W 8-Core Server Processor > $3,868. ($1,934 each) On the Passmark CPU benchmark chart, this processor is the No.1 rated, score = 21491. In the top 100 systems on Passmark Performance test, this CPU is used in the 6th highest performing system.
2. (2) Thermaltake WATER2.0 Pro Closed-Loop All In One Liquid CPU Cooler Dual 120mm PWM Fans 120x49mm Radiator CLW0216 > $150 ($75 each) (I'm not confident in this choice and this component should be researched more carefully. Intel recommends liquid cooling for the 150W E5-2687W, and this one is among the quietest.)
3. INTEL S2600COESSI EEB Server Motherboard Dual LGA 2011 DDR3 1600 > $580 (Newegg). (Supports up to 512GB DDR3 ECC UDIMM/LV)
4. ASUS Z9PE-D16 SSI EEB Server Motherboard Dual LGA 2011 DDR3 1600 > $480 (See links above for information)
5. SUPERMICRO MBD-X9DAi-O Extended ATX Server Motherboard Dual LGA 2011 DDR3 > $490
a. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
b. http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/xeon/c60...
c. 16GB ECC registered 1600 compatible memory > http://www.supermicro.com/support/resources/memory/disp...
i. A 16GB Samsung module from the compatible list > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ($180 each X4= $770 for 64GB, 8X= $1,440 for 128GB)
6. 128GB (8 X 16GB) DDR3- 1600 ECC RAM for Intel S2600COESSI EEB > About $1,200 (compatibility to be researched)
7. 128GB (8 X 16GB) SAMSUNG M393B2G70BH0-CK0 1X 16GB for ASUS Z9PE-D16 > 128GB= $1,160 ($145 each, Server Direct)
8. LSI MegaRAID Internal Low-Power SATA/SAS 9260-8i 6Gb/s PCI-Express 2.0 w/ 512MB onboard memory RAID Controller Card, Single > $499
9. NVIDIA Quadro K5000 4GB 256-bit PCI Express 2.0 x 16 HDCP Ready Workstation video card > $1,800.
10. OPT'L > PNY VCQ6000-PB Quadro 6000 6GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 Workstation Video Card > $3,648. (I think the 6000 is so good that you might consider buying a good used Quadro 6000 which on Ebay can be had in the $1,300-1,500 range.)
11. SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD512BW 2.5" 512GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) > $520
12. (3) Western Digital WD Black WD2002FAEX 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM $480 ($160 each) (RAID 1+0) (Active files, backup, system image) (These may be more useful as 4TB each)
13. SeaSonic X-1250 1250W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply > $254.99
14. LIAN LI PC-D8000 Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case $331.99
15. ASUS DVD Burner 24X DVDDRW-24B3ST/BLK/G/AS > $28.
16. NZXT Sentry-2 5.25" Touch Screen Fan Controller > $28.
17. Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (Full Version) - OEM $140
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TOTAL = about $8,700-9,000 with Quadro K5000 > Add +$1,850 for new Quadro 6000 or subtract -$200 for used Quadro 6000. This could be well under $8,000 by using the onboard RAID controller (deleting the LSI = -$500) and going from 128 to 64GB RAM (= -$600).
Cheers,
BambiBoom
[ Dell Precision T5400 > 2X Xeon X5460 quad core @3.16GHz > 16 GB ECC 667> Quadro FX 4800 (1.5GB) > WD RE4 / Segt Brcda 500GB > Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit > HP 2711x 27" 1920 x 1080 > AutoCad, Revit, Solidworks, Sketchup Pro, Corel Technical Designer, Adobe CS MC, WordP Office, MS Office > architecture, industrial design, graphic design, rendering, writing ]
OnePersonBandStudio
August 16, 2013 10:40:15 AM
Wow. What a thoughtful response. I've been staying away from the E5-2687W because of the heat, but perhaps I should be looking at the ver2 chips when they come out in September. Was very interested to hear what you said about how single-threaded apps (like Maya, except when rendering) behave amidst a multi-cpu environment. Cooling will be everything on this machine--am thinking about a 4U rackmount for future growth, if things work that way.
I've also been considering the Asus Z9PE-D8 WS M/B because of its I/O connections. Any thoughts on this board?
...even simple, single renderings are far too time consuming.
There's the rub.
Thank you! IOU!
I've also been considering the Asus Z9PE-D8 WS M/B because of its I/O connections. Any thoughts on this board?
...even simple, single renderings are far too time consuming.
There's the rub.
Thank you! IOU!
realchaos
August 16, 2013 8:40:55 PM
Big Tower, Strong Power
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($569.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Swiftech H220 55.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($150.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Rampage IV Extreme EATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($415.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($239.63 @ Amazon)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 1050W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Other: W7000 ($699.99)
Other: W7000 ($699.99)
Total: $3326.52
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-16 23:39 EDT-0400)
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($569.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Swiftech H220 55.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($150.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Rampage IV Extreme EATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($415.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($239.63 @ Amazon)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 1050W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Other: W7000 ($699.99)
Other: W7000 ($699.99)
Total: $3326.52
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-16 23:39 EDT-0400)
bambiboom
August 17, 2013 5:35:53 AM
OnePersonBandStudio said:
Wow. What a thoughtful response. I've been staying away from the E5-2687W because of the heat, but perhaps I should be looking at the ver2 chips when they come out in September. Was very interested to hear what you said about how single-threaded apps (like Maya, except when rendering) behave amidst a multi-cpu environment. Cooling will be everything on this machine--am thinking about a 4U rackmount for future growth, if things work that way.I've also been considering the Asus Z9PE-D8 WS M/B because of its I/O connections. Any thoughts on this board?
...even simple, single renderings are far too time consuming.
There's the rub.
Thank you! IOU!
OnePersonBandStudio,
Given the complexity of tasks at your studio > animation, video, sound, your idea of a multiple system configuration is a good one as you could optimize one system for active files such as 3D modeling, one for animation processing, no. 3 for sound and video effects processing, and then have a dedicated animation rendering engine that could just stand in the corner on 24 / 7 slogs. This could also be effective with two systems, one active and other processing. That way you can always be generating content and editing while the other systems process and each system can be configured as required -CPU speed, amount of RAM, and very basic graphics cards. One way to do this effectively and with lower cost would be to have the super dual 8-core system and then have a row of networked, used Dell Precision T7500's with fast, single or dual 6-cores like the X5680 (3.33GHz)- $1,600-3,000 instead of $8,000- as they can in effect work while you do other things. There's also an advantage in buying such systems already assembled / configured, possibly only change drives and RAM.
Yes, the E5-2687W is 150W and a hot one, Intel more than recommends liquid cooling and a surprising number of dual CPU motherboards specifically specify "up to 135W". I expect the V2 would be 130W like the new E5-2697 V2.
While on the subject of cooling, an aspect that needs very careful consideration for your proposed system is the amount of noise it makes- air rush from the cooling and HD click can be very distracting. I have a modest dedicated sound computer, an HP Elite m9626f (Q6600 quad core @ 2.4GHz, EMU 0404), not a hot rod but just amazingly silent. And, a couple of weeks ago received a new HP z420 (Xeon E5-1620 quad core @ 3.6GHz, C602, 24GB ECC) and it's even quieter, and both are much quieter than the fairly quiet Dell Precision T5400 (2X Xeon X5460 @3.16, 16GB, Quadro FX 4800).
You mention the Asus Z9PE-D8 WS and that is a board I like for several reasons- it's C602, very good, open layout- looks like space for big heatsinks, dual LAN, and there's that amazing row of seven PCIe-x16 slots- thanks dual CPU's! Of course, not all seven are capable of running at x16 simultaneously. The one limitation of the Asus Z9PE-D8 WS is that there are only eight RAM slots- the same number as my lowly E5-1620 single quad core system. As each CPU is using separate RAM, to allow for future expansion, that for 32B per CPU (64GB total), it means starting out with 2X 2- 16GB modules- and 16GB are more expensive and high higher latency. For this reason- the the sixteen RAM slots (16X 8GB =128), the Asus Z9PE-D16 WS is my preference and by the way has 4X LAN and is $100 less expensive. The Asus Z9PE-D16 WS does have six instead of seven PCIe x16, but there is a PIKE slot, which is especially for a PIKE SAS / SATA controller. ASUS makes an 8-port SAS2/ SATA3 RAID controller for this slot that costs about $130 and this is likely to be a noticeable improvement to the onboard Marvell controller and 1/4 the price of the LSI PCIe controller.
By the way, I might restate an important aspect when thinking about such systems and more so if there's the option of adding separate system for dedicated tasks. And that is to understand very thoroughly the applications for multi-core use as it is more efficient and saves money if you can use a system with fewer CPU cores as it can be vastly cheaper and simultaneously have a higher clock speed. On single threaded applications, the $350 E5-1620 running on the first core at 3.8GHz would be comparable to dual, $3,900 E5-2687W's running on the first core at 3.8GHz. By the way, you didn't mention your applications, but Sonar X2 introduces what appears to be a good multi-core configuration and I'm glad to think we'll see more in that direction.
Rendering > Rendering is one of those interesting aspects of current computer applications as renderings are in effect the final product of all the other work and also have the highest hardware requirement- both in processing power and graphics power, establishing a severe "weakest link" curve in the hardware / software chain that no other uses seem to demand. Someone could have a surprisingly modest system and work out a whole city in 3D CAD, but if they had to do renderings of 1/10th of the kitchens, that adds $6,000.
A good discussion. Hypothetical systems are very useful in clarifying hardware / software priorities and relationships.
Cheers,
BambiBoom
OnePersonBandStudio
August 17, 2013 10:32:32 AM
I might restate an important aspect when thinking about such systems and more so if there's the option of adding separate system for dedicated tasks.
In my world, we’re speaking of pipeline workflow. My major apps are the CS6Master Collection and the Autodesk Entertainment suite. As a film-maker, I’m director, writer, producer, sound engineer, light technician, effects artist, editor, you name it. None of this is hypothetical ;-) –as I’m producing product on schedule. My concern about dedicating systems to various tasks is the increased management and networking issues. Version/asset/footage control is everything. In studios, you generally not only have dedicated systems, but dedicated people to manage these systems, with TD’s to keep it all straight. Even if such an environment were an option, I wouldn’t want it because business concerns tend to overwhelm creative quality, productivity, and freedom. Yet, in a one person studio, one person must balance creation, business, production, and tech all at once, which means striving for simplicity (as opposed to increased complexity) when possible.
…then have a row of networked … fast, single or dual 6-cores like the X5680 (3.33GHz)- …as they can in effect work while you do other things.
Space! Sound! Heat! Electricity! Complexity management! Fast, reliable networks are not trivial in cost, security, maintaining, and troubleshooting. I’ve been cutting my teeth in the last year with a four computer render farm on gigabit Ethernet, which does not have nearly enough bandwidth.
ASUS makes an 8-port SAS2/ SATA3 RAID controller for this slot that costs about $130 and this is likely to be a noticeable improvement to the onboard Marvell controller and 1/4 the price of the LSI PCIe controller.
This is good to know. I will look closely at the ASUS Z9PE-D16. I was also looking at the Supermicro X9DRH-7TF for it’s integrated LSI SAS2208 &Intel X540-t2 10GBase-T controllers, and 16 DDR3 slots, but it has only 1 PCI-E 3.0 x16 expansion slot.
…the amount of noise it makes- air rush from the cooling and HD click can be very distracting
A big concern. Have you heard how well the $2k server sound enclosures work in a small office environment? Should I look for a used one?
…understand very thoroughly the applications for multi-core use as it is more efficient and saves money if you can use a system with fewer CPU cores as it can be vastly cheaper and simultaneously have a higher clock speed.
Very glad you keep bringing this up as it’s causing me to try to think of solutions how this might work in my environment—something along the lines of two rackmounts—(but how to network and manage them adequately so they work as seamlessly as possible?) As you know, there will never be enough rendering cores, which is why I’m willing to spend money to increase simplicity in a complex pipeline workflow--and then tailor output to resources.
To optimize a system for the applications you mention suggests a system with very high performance in all the subsystems > CPU, Memory, GPU, and disk.
Have you heard anything about how well the Fuison-io technology is working in people’s machines? I’ve been looking at the ioFX, but not finding much about it.
Glad you enjoy the discussion too! Thank you!
In my world, we’re speaking of pipeline workflow. My major apps are the CS6Master Collection and the Autodesk Entertainment suite. As a film-maker, I’m director, writer, producer, sound engineer, light technician, effects artist, editor, you name it. None of this is hypothetical ;-) –as I’m producing product on schedule. My concern about dedicating systems to various tasks is the increased management and networking issues. Version/asset/footage control is everything. In studios, you generally not only have dedicated systems, but dedicated people to manage these systems, with TD’s to keep it all straight. Even if such an environment were an option, I wouldn’t want it because business concerns tend to overwhelm creative quality, productivity, and freedom. Yet, in a one person studio, one person must balance creation, business, production, and tech all at once, which means striving for simplicity (as opposed to increased complexity) when possible.
…then have a row of networked … fast, single or dual 6-cores like the X5680 (3.33GHz)- …as they can in effect work while you do other things.
Space! Sound! Heat! Electricity! Complexity management! Fast, reliable networks are not trivial in cost, security, maintaining, and troubleshooting. I’ve been cutting my teeth in the last year with a four computer render farm on gigabit Ethernet, which does not have nearly enough bandwidth.
ASUS makes an 8-port SAS2/ SATA3 RAID controller for this slot that costs about $130 and this is likely to be a noticeable improvement to the onboard Marvell controller and 1/4 the price of the LSI PCIe controller.
This is good to know. I will look closely at the ASUS Z9PE-D16. I was also looking at the Supermicro X9DRH-7TF for it’s integrated LSI SAS2208 &Intel X540-t2 10GBase-T controllers, and 16 DDR3 slots, but it has only 1 PCI-E 3.0 x16 expansion slot.
…the amount of noise it makes- air rush from the cooling and HD click can be very distracting
A big concern. Have you heard how well the $2k server sound enclosures work in a small office environment? Should I look for a used one?
…understand very thoroughly the applications for multi-core use as it is more efficient and saves money if you can use a system with fewer CPU cores as it can be vastly cheaper and simultaneously have a higher clock speed.
Very glad you keep bringing this up as it’s causing me to try to think of solutions how this might work in my environment—something along the lines of two rackmounts—(but how to network and manage them adequately so they work as seamlessly as possible?) As you know, there will never be enough rendering cores, which is why I’m willing to spend money to increase simplicity in a complex pipeline workflow--and then tailor output to resources.
To optimize a system for the applications you mention suggests a system with very high performance in all the subsystems > CPU, Memory, GPU, and disk.
Have you heard anything about how well the Fuison-io technology is working in people’s machines? I’ve been looking at the ioFX, but not finding much about it.
Glad you enjoy the discussion too! Thank you!
bambiboom
August 17, 2013 4:27:38 PM
OnePersonBandStudio,
Regarding the multiple systems, my idea to use a series of used Dells was a low cost concept in response to your idea of having four rack mount units. Given your explanation of working method / sequence, though I understand the striving for for hardware simplicity. I also put on a one person show and being network shy and backup obsessed, my technique has always to maintain two independent computers with identical software and archived files, ready to plug in at a moment's notice. I prefer short hardware chains- really amounting to independent systems as the longer the chain- the more parts, and the greater the chance it breaks somewhere. So, yes if a single system is preferable, I'm all for it, it will only need to be highly capable in disparate ways, but that will still be less expensive and much easier to manage than several systems on a network.
Motherboard > The Supermicro X9DRH-7TF > Though I like Supermicro workstations boards in general, I don't see advantages to that board as it does have only the one PCIe X16 slot. Of course, your system is never likely to have more than one graphics card, RAID devices are x8, and interfaces like MOTU, Apogee, AVID, and RME are often x1, but if you have all x16 slots, the x16 x8, x4, and x1 devices can go anywhere. The Supermicro X9DRH-7TF also has only 2X SATA III 6Gb/S ports while the ASUS has 6X. Of course, that's a moot point if there is to be a PCIe RAID controller, but the limited x16 slots and few SATA III ports are to me a sign of possibly being earlier generation. The highest quality boards I've seen have been Intel and I'm quite interested in a closer look at the S2600COESSI EEB
Given the server orientation of your system, the RAID controller seems a good idea. I have an LSI 3080 SAS /SATA controller for the T5400 (there are 2X PCI-X slots) that id supposed to double transfer speeds, but I never installed these as, again, I enjoy simplicity and don't have RAID configured. Plus, my files, except for the sound files on the recording system- are never very large.
Noise > As for system noise, this is one of my other obsession- both in having a quiet recording / processing system and also a good monitoring system. I also use isolation headphones almost constantly (old Sennheiser 580). There is vacuum tube gear about (Peavey VMP2, Audio Research SP8 and D115), so heat is a problem.
I had a look at several noise reduction enclosures and can't make a specific recommendation as I would want to hear these in their native habitat running. Because of the emphasis on air flow- they're very open, I'm not sure how quiet they can be, but servers are put in separate rooms for a reason. Plus, everyone has their own threshold of distraction. I have a friend in Los Angeles that records and produces his own CD's (Classical Piano and synthesized orchestral compositions) and he uses a MOTU 828, Mac Pro and a rack of effects processors, DAT's, synthesizer modules, and CD duplicator, and so on and claims there's not a noise problem, but he also uses headphones. I think the air rush is terrible. So, a difficult question to answer. Are you using surround sound and monitoring on speakers?
I think though that if you went to rack mounted systems, that a cork-lined, insulated MDF cabinet around the rack with a low front intake with a short duct to an intake fan and a high mounted exhaust fan on a short duct could be done at less than $2,000.
One other detail. You may be aware of these but if not, have a look on Ebay for "isolation power conditioners" like Powervar and OneAC with at least 10A output. These are made for hospital equipment and filter RF, stabilize voltage, and have very effective surge protection. These have very high quality transformers and are very expensive new- often $1,200+, but when they come off lease, they are inexpensive- $150-200, and last forever. I use these in my audio and computer systems (except power amplifiers) and the noise floor goes to nothing.
It's surprising at what level a single person can accomplish complex production tasks at home. I had an architectural client who was a director that wrote and then after photography and CGI, edited several major features at home (AVID) and the composer, some guy named Horn-something, worked out the score on a piano brought into the living room.
Cheers,
BambiBoom
Regarding the multiple systems, my idea to use a series of used Dells was a low cost concept in response to your idea of having four rack mount units. Given your explanation of working method / sequence, though I understand the striving for for hardware simplicity. I also put on a one person show and being network shy and backup obsessed, my technique has always to maintain two independent computers with identical software and archived files, ready to plug in at a moment's notice. I prefer short hardware chains- really amounting to independent systems as the longer the chain- the more parts, and the greater the chance it breaks somewhere. So, yes if a single system is preferable, I'm all for it, it will only need to be highly capable in disparate ways, but that will still be less expensive and much easier to manage than several systems on a network.
Motherboard > The Supermicro X9DRH-7TF > Though I like Supermicro workstations boards in general, I don't see advantages to that board as it does have only the one PCIe X16 slot. Of course, your system is never likely to have more than one graphics card, RAID devices are x8, and interfaces like MOTU, Apogee, AVID, and RME are often x1, but if you have all x16 slots, the x16 x8, x4, and x1 devices can go anywhere. The Supermicro X9DRH-7TF also has only 2X SATA III 6Gb/S ports while the ASUS has 6X. Of course, that's a moot point if there is to be a PCIe RAID controller, but the limited x16 slots and few SATA III ports are to me a sign of possibly being earlier generation. The highest quality boards I've seen have been Intel and I'm quite interested in a closer look at the S2600COESSI EEB
Given the server orientation of your system, the RAID controller seems a good idea. I have an LSI 3080 SAS /SATA controller for the T5400 (there are 2X PCI-X slots) that id supposed to double transfer speeds, but I never installed these as, again, I enjoy simplicity and don't have RAID configured. Plus, my files, except for the sound files on the recording system- are never very large.
Noise > As for system noise, this is one of my other obsession- both in having a quiet recording / processing system and also a good monitoring system. I also use isolation headphones almost constantly (old Sennheiser 580). There is vacuum tube gear about (Peavey VMP2, Audio Research SP8 and D115), so heat is a problem.
I had a look at several noise reduction enclosures and can't make a specific recommendation as I would want to hear these in their native habitat running. Because of the emphasis on air flow- they're very open, I'm not sure how quiet they can be, but servers are put in separate rooms for a reason. Plus, everyone has their own threshold of distraction. I have a friend in Los Angeles that records and produces his own CD's (Classical Piano and synthesized orchestral compositions) and he uses a MOTU 828, Mac Pro and a rack of effects processors, DAT's, synthesizer modules, and CD duplicator, and so on and claims there's not a noise problem, but he also uses headphones. I think the air rush is terrible. So, a difficult question to answer. Are you using surround sound and monitoring on speakers?
I think though that if you went to rack mounted systems, that a cork-lined, insulated MDF cabinet around the rack with a low front intake with a short duct to an intake fan and a high mounted exhaust fan on a short duct could be done at less than $2,000.
One other detail. You may be aware of these but if not, have a look on Ebay for "isolation power conditioners" like Powervar and OneAC with at least 10A output. These are made for hospital equipment and filter RF, stabilize voltage, and have very effective surge protection. These have very high quality transformers and are very expensive new- often $1,200+, but when they come off lease, they are inexpensive- $150-200, and last forever. I use these in my audio and computer systems (except power amplifiers) and the noise floor goes to nothing.
It's surprising at what level a single person can accomplish complex production tasks at home. I had an architectural client who was a director that wrote and then after photography and CGI, edited several major features at home (AVID) and the composer, some guy named Horn-something, worked out the score on a piano brought into the living room.
Cheers,
BambiBoom
OnePersonBandStudio
August 18, 2013 1:51:00 AM
LOL, it sure helps to roll this around with someone. When you mentioned that there is a decrease in speed proportional to the increase in core count—(and that it would not be efficient to have a render tie up the entire workstation)--it set me thinking about CPU management on a system that had twenty CPU’s. I didn’t know this, but looking around a little, I found the Windows 7 Task Manager has an Affinity option that allows you to select what specific cores one wants running on a particular process. CS6, also, provides control how many processors can be used for the whole suite. So, theoretically, I could divide 20 CPUs between OS, Maya, CS6, and anything else. (Maya also has a render option where you can specify how many cores should be used for rendering--but not for running dynamics.) With the Task Manager, continual rendering may not have to interfere with productivity. I’ll test it this week on my next renders. It might also solve the overhead problem of having Maya process data divided between so many cores.
It never occurred to me I might be able to use 128gigs of RAM. I’ve heard CS6 works best with around 24 to 32 gigs—and Maya generally uses less than that. But then, looking into it, I’ve learned that RAM drives are back. We used them back in the 80’s on old DOS machines, but it seems cheap RAM and 64-bit OS’s have made them relevant again. So, this evening, I installed a 2 gig RAM drive and will test it with data files this week. RAM drives would also be useful for scratch disks—potentially taking a load off the SSD’s. 128gigs are starting to look like an important element.
Are you using surround sound and monitoring on speakers?
Headphones. I wear them most the time. My wife is a librarian. :-) I’m more concerned about the noise for her than me. I use monitors for the Roland Fantom X8, when I can—but for my wife’s sake it’s mostly headphones there too. I'm not a musician, though--messing with it is simply relaxing.
I think though that if you went to rack mounted systems, that a cork-lined, insulated MDF cabinet around the rack with a low front intake with a short duct to an intake fan and a high mounted exhaust fan on a short duct could be done at less than $2,000.
Excellent!
You may be aware of these but if not, have a look on Ebay for "isolation power conditioners" like Powervar and OneAC with at least 10A output.
I use APC H15 power conditioners—it never occurred to me to look ebay for used ones. I know little about electricity. Can you recommend specific products suitable for this workstation build? I was just over at the Powervar site and didn’t know what I was looking at.
Horn-something… that’s funny! Scoring is my weakest link.
It's surprising at what level a single person can accomplish complex production tasks at home.
Never in history has there been such powerful tools for so relatively little money. It almost makes up for the economic realities…almost. Instead, we just have to work smarter. I live not too far from LA. If you ever want a free lunch, let me know. I owe you.
Ric
It never occurred to me I might be able to use 128gigs of RAM. I’ve heard CS6 works best with around 24 to 32 gigs—and Maya generally uses less than that. But then, looking into it, I’ve learned that RAM drives are back. We used them back in the 80’s on old DOS machines, but it seems cheap RAM and 64-bit OS’s have made them relevant again. So, this evening, I installed a 2 gig RAM drive and will test it with data files this week. RAM drives would also be useful for scratch disks—potentially taking a load off the SSD’s. 128gigs are starting to look like an important element.
Are you using surround sound and monitoring on speakers?
Headphones. I wear them most the time. My wife is a librarian. :-) I’m more concerned about the noise for her than me. I use monitors for the Roland Fantom X8, when I can—but for my wife’s sake it’s mostly headphones there too. I'm not a musician, though--messing with it is simply relaxing.
I think though that if you went to rack mounted systems, that a cork-lined, insulated MDF cabinet around the rack with a low front intake with a short duct to an intake fan and a high mounted exhaust fan on a short duct could be done at less than $2,000.
Excellent!
You may be aware of these but if not, have a look on Ebay for "isolation power conditioners" like Powervar and OneAC with at least 10A output.
I use APC H15 power conditioners—it never occurred to me to look ebay for used ones. I know little about electricity. Can you recommend specific products suitable for this workstation build? I was just over at the Powervar site and didn’t know what I was looking at.
Horn-something… that’s funny! Scoring is my weakest link.
It's surprising at what level a single person can accomplish complex production tasks at home.
Never in history has there been such powerful tools for so relatively little money. It almost makes up for the economic realities…almost. Instead, we just have to work smarter. I live not too far from LA. If you ever want a free lunch, let me know. I owe you.
Ric
bambiboom
August 18, 2013 4:52:29 AM
Ric,
You mention the value of these kind of discussions and I agree completely. I've had a long-time interest in instrument making and audio and realized after posting about audio that while playing about, I was teaching myself how to write more clearly on technical subjects. When I shifted towards industrial design and also changed to 3D CAD, I needed to become more sophisticated about computers and participating on this forum has not only saved a lot of frustration by increasing my understanding of the performance relationship between hardware to software , but also find I am improving the quality of Patent applications.
Multi-Core > One of the encouraging trends in PC's is the increasing ability to use multiple cores and I found that the ability to select the cores assignment a revelation- that's why my current computer added a second CPU. And I do just what you describe, I often assign 10 of the 16 threads to rendering and use the rest otherwise. This is where the amount of RAM comes into play. A multi-CPU system uses RAM symmetrically between the CPU's, so a dual CPU system with a total of 32GB is the equivalent of a single CPU system with 16GB or rather each core is the total RAm divided by the number of cores. I often run 5 or more applications at once - 2D CAD, 3D CAD/ modeling, viewer, PDF converter, graphic design / photo editing, Internet, Windows Explorer is almost permanently running, plus there is of course the OS, so the RAM is thinly disributed over eight cores.. In my current 16 GB dual Xeon system, that means that in reality I have 8GB per CPU and my old formula of 2GB for the OS, and 2GB for each application and the open files, means that at 2GB per core, I am running quite close to the bone. And the RAM does work for a living. When I run renderings, the hot-blooded DDR2 can reach 92C. Given the division of RAM between the CPU's, if Maya and CS6 are using 16- 24GB each, that does suggest the 128GB is not over doing it.
RAM Disk > By coincidence I am planning a quite different configuration, separating into a modeling and rendering system. In the new modeling system (HP z420), I'm going to try ram disks in combination with an SSD and keep the dual Xeon system as a rendering engine. For the new modeling system I have a single quad core CPU (Xeon E5-1620), chosen because the fewer the cores, the higher the base speed, in this example- 3.6GHz, plus 24GB RAM. The SSD is a 250GB (Samsung 840) and I'm going to have the OS, applications and all the current files in one partition, the archive and backup files on a 500GB mechanical drive, and run a ram disk for the bigger projects. I'm working on a Sketchup model that is 48MB, and while this doesn't seem large, it has millions of polygons-( 300+ 3D trees) and textures everywhere such that it takes three minutes to open and the timed saves are consuming about 10 minutes per hour. I'm having to go back and put everything on 30 or 40 layers so I can turn off everything off except one component. I'm in a panic at the moment as I can't extract renderings as it crashes the program after 20-25 minutes export. The penalties of casual planning.
HD Size > I amazed myself- and actually a bit disappointed when I calculated that all the files I've made since 1993- excepting sound, which occupy about 300 GB on a dedicated system, amount to only 92GB. There's another 70GB for the system image. That's 22,300 architectural files, 3,800 documents from one to 250 pages, 23,000 images, 800 graphic design files, about 1,200 scanned files and so on. That means that I can have the OS and all the files of twenty years' work on a 250GB drive. I wonder how many people really need 4TB?
Other adjustment in thinking > I find that I am doing less rendering than I imagined- only about 5-10% of my time, and going to try fewer and faster cores. My largest project ever- architectural- had a total of 35 renderings while the industrial design projects have three or four. This may shift into a larger proportion when I settle on a rendering program- I waste a lot of time by trying and using different ones.
Power conditioners> The isolation transformer conditioner vary in amperage output and number of sockets. Audio equipment can have large current draws and so I use 10-12A units to supply the turntable, CDP, preamp, tuner but power amplifiers have to be plugged into the wall directly- and vacuum tube amplifiers have horrific power requirements- the Audio Research D250 draws 600W at idle and uses 1,600W at full power so it has to occupy an entire outlet on it's own. Another detail > it is very useful if you can to rewire so that the system room has a dedicated circuit. The noise floor can also be significantly reduced by not only the power conditioner, but also by using hospital grade outlets such as Hubbell and Leviton. There are very good outlets at around $10-20. These are a fetish in high-end end audio and there are extremely expensive Rhodium sockets, but the problem is that they really do make a difference- as do IEC power cords, interconnects, and speaker cables. I went to a demonstration years ago near LAX of Ray Kimber's IsoMike recording system and the recording / playback system cost $297,000 without microphones- the four Beryllium speaker cables alone were $24,000. Have a look at the Wattgate 381 outlet >
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WATTGATE-381-RH-blue-star-audio...
The power conditioners on the other hand are bargains >
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Powervar-10-Power-Conditioner-A...
> a 10A Powervar with 6 outlets for $75.00 These have very heavy transformers and probably cost $50-60 to ship. Still a great a bargain- that unit was probably $1,100 new and I've used an 8.3A Powervar bought for almost that exact amount that's been running 24/7 for seven years. I have six of these from 6 to 11A and on sound gear, noise disappears that I didn't previously realize existed.
The good old Days are Now Dept. > Yes, the digital realm presents quite amazing performance improves at ever less cost. One odd feature is that the as the hardware becomes cheaper, the software becomes much more expensive. In 1993 I bought n IBM 486 running at 50MHz for $2,100 with an 85MB HD. I added 2MB of RAM for $180 and six month later a 540MB HD - the largest one made then for $570. and everything was proprietary and compatibility was narrow. The RAM would only fit that series of IBM and the prices were astoundingly higher. The 24GB of RAM in the new HP would cost in 1993 (@$90/MB)> $2,211,840 and a 1993 2TB HD (@ $1.07 / MB) = $2,243,952. On the other hand, AutoCAD (R10 DOS) was $560 and today about $5,400 but of course with capabilities impossible in 1993. That google can give away Sketchup to me is equally amazing to the $2.2Million HD idea.
Just when the reports of it's demise abound, the golden age of the PC is now!
Cheers,
BambiBoom
You mention the value of these kind of discussions and I agree completely. I've had a long-time interest in instrument making and audio and realized after posting about audio that while playing about, I was teaching myself how to write more clearly on technical subjects. When I shifted towards industrial design and also changed to 3D CAD, I needed to become more sophisticated about computers and participating on this forum has not only saved a lot of frustration by increasing my understanding of the performance relationship between hardware to software , but also find I am improving the quality of Patent applications.
Multi-Core > One of the encouraging trends in PC's is the increasing ability to use multiple cores and I found that the ability to select the cores assignment a revelation- that's why my current computer added a second CPU. And I do just what you describe, I often assign 10 of the 16 threads to rendering and use the rest otherwise. This is where the amount of RAM comes into play. A multi-CPU system uses RAM symmetrically between the CPU's, so a dual CPU system with a total of 32GB is the equivalent of a single CPU system with 16GB or rather each core is the total RAm divided by the number of cores. I often run 5 or more applications at once - 2D CAD, 3D CAD/ modeling, viewer, PDF converter, graphic design / photo editing, Internet, Windows Explorer is almost permanently running, plus there is of course the OS, so the RAM is thinly disributed over eight cores.. In my current 16 GB dual Xeon system, that means that in reality I have 8GB per CPU and my old formula of 2GB for the OS, and 2GB for each application and the open files, means that at 2GB per core, I am running quite close to the bone. And the RAM does work for a living. When I run renderings, the hot-blooded DDR2 can reach 92C. Given the division of RAM between the CPU's, if Maya and CS6 are using 16- 24GB each, that does suggest the 128GB is not over doing it.
RAM Disk > By coincidence I am planning a quite different configuration, separating into a modeling and rendering system. In the new modeling system (HP z420), I'm going to try ram disks in combination with an SSD and keep the dual Xeon system as a rendering engine. For the new modeling system I have a single quad core CPU (Xeon E5-1620), chosen because the fewer the cores, the higher the base speed, in this example- 3.6GHz, plus 24GB RAM. The SSD is a 250GB (Samsung 840) and I'm going to have the OS, applications and all the current files in one partition, the archive and backup files on a 500GB mechanical drive, and run a ram disk for the bigger projects. I'm working on a Sketchup model that is 48MB, and while this doesn't seem large, it has millions of polygons-( 300+ 3D trees) and textures everywhere such that it takes three minutes to open and the timed saves are consuming about 10 minutes per hour. I'm having to go back and put everything on 30 or 40 layers so I can turn off everything off except one component. I'm in a panic at the moment as I can't extract renderings as it crashes the program after 20-25 minutes export. The penalties of casual planning.
HD Size > I amazed myself- and actually a bit disappointed when I calculated that all the files I've made since 1993- excepting sound, which occupy about 300 GB on a dedicated system, amount to only 92GB. There's another 70GB for the system image. That's 22,300 architectural files, 3,800 documents from one to 250 pages, 23,000 images, 800 graphic design files, about 1,200 scanned files and so on. That means that I can have the OS and all the files of twenty years' work on a 250GB drive. I wonder how many people really need 4TB?
Other adjustment in thinking > I find that I am doing less rendering than I imagined- only about 5-10% of my time, and going to try fewer and faster cores. My largest project ever- architectural- had a total of 35 renderings while the industrial design projects have three or four. This may shift into a larger proportion when I settle on a rendering program- I waste a lot of time by trying and using different ones.
Power conditioners> The isolation transformer conditioner vary in amperage output and number of sockets. Audio equipment can have large current draws and so I use 10-12A units to supply the turntable, CDP, preamp, tuner but power amplifiers have to be plugged into the wall directly- and vacuum tube amplifiers have horrific power requirements- the Audio Research D250 draws 600W at idle and uses 1,600W at full power so it has to occupy an entire outlet on it's own. Another detail > it is very useful if you can to rewire so that the system room has a dedicated circuit. The noise floor can also be significantly reduced by not only the power conditioner, but also by using hospital grade outlets such as Hubbell and Leviton. There are very good outlets at around $10-20. These are a fetish in high-end end audio and there are extremely expensive Rhodium sockets, but the problem is that they really do make a difference- as do IEC power cords, interconnects, and speaker cables. I went to a demonstration years ago near LAX of Ray Kimber's IsoMike recording system and the recording / playback system cost $297,000 without microphones- the four Beryllium speaker cables alone were $24,000. Have a look at the Wattgate 381 outlet >
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WATTGATE-381-RH-blue-star-audio...
The power conditioners on the other hand are bargains >
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Powervar-10-Power-Conditioner-A...
> a 10A Powervar with 6 outlets for $75.00 These have very heavy transformers and probably cost $50-60 to ship. Still a great a bargain- that unit was probably $1,100 new and I've used an 8.3A Powervar bought for almost that exact amount that's been running 24/7 for seven years. I have six of these from 6 to 11A and on sound gear, noise disappears that I didn't previously realize existed.
The good old Days are Now Dept. > Yes, the digital realm presents quite amazing performance improves at ever less cost. One odd feature is that the as the hardware becomes cheaper, the software becomes much more expensive. In 1993 I bought n IBM 486 running at 50MHz for $2,100 with an 85MB HD. I added 2MB of RAM for $180 and six month later a 540MB HD - the largest one made then for $570. and everything was proprietary and compatibility was narrow. The RAM would only fit that series of IBM and the prices were astoundingly higher. The 24GB of RAM in the new HP would cost in 1993 (@$90/MB)> $2,211,840 and a 1993 2TB HD (@ $1.07 / MB) = $2,243,952. On the other hand, AutoCAD (R10 DOS) was $560 and today about $5,400 but of course with capabilities impossible in 1993. That google can give away Sketchup to me is equally amazing to the $2.2Million HD idea.
Just when the reports of it's demise abound, the golden age of the PC is now!
Cheers,
BambiBoom
OnePersonBandStudio
August 18, 2013 2:05:24 PM
...but also find I am improving the quality of Patent applications.
That explains your articulateness :-) Out of college, I supported myself writing college textbooks for McGraw Hill, Southwestern, and Wiley. The discipline proved invaluable. It seems, people don't accept new ideas as being real unless they see them on paper. While we evaluate a person by watching and listening, we evaluate a mind by reading.
For the new modeling system I have a single quad core CPU (Xeon E5-1620), chosen because the fewer the cores, the higher the base speed, in this example- 3.6GHz, plus 24GB RAM.
A $300 Romley chip with 3.8GHz turboboost. Nice.
I wonder how many people really need 4TB?
Rendering a single day's work fills 20 gigs. I've become obsessed with version control, but determining what should be archived is hard because not everything can be saved. The drafts are a nightmare to manage; it
may be years before realizing something done earlier is needed.
I find that I am doing less rendering than I imagined- only about 5-10% of my time, and going to try fewer and faster cores.
Good workstations are tailored to the task and user--yet the user often doesn't know the task until encountering the first failures and opportunities. Workstations evolve, which is why I generally overdesign rather than simply meet requirements. I define a workstation as a production system that makes money. I feel for people coming out of colleges trained in technique, but not how to make money with the technique.
Rendering has now become everything. Each night, I stop at a place where it's productive to start again in the morning, which means I have to organize things based on what can be rendered overnight. During the day, each decision has to be rendered or playblasted to be evaluated. The longer it takes to render, the more likely a decision will not be fruitful. We're always limited by hardware and have to design workflow around it.
I have six of these from 6 to 11A and on sound gear, noise disappears that I didn't previously realize existed.
I've run into two that have cut external wires. Is there a reason for this?
One odd feature is that the as the hardware becomes cheaper, the software becomes much more expensive.
I see this as systemic weakness and don't see the trend lasting more than few more years. The software is so expensive because the support infrastructure has grown immense and they are trying to maintain quality. In general, as hardware becomes cheaper, the business incentive to replace people with technology grows, so high end software gets more expensive as the user base gets smaller. I expect Autodesk to go the direction of Adobe, eventually offering software on a solely subscription basis; after that, they go after a broader customer base, which is why I keep telling myself to spend more time with other packages, but haven't gotten around to it.
Just thoughts!
Ric
That explains your articulateness :-) Out of college, I supported myself writing college textbooks for McGraw Hill, Southwestern, and Wiley. The discipline proved invaluable. It seems, people don't accept new ideas as being real unless they see them on paper. While we evaluate a person by watching and listening, we evaluate a mind by reading.
For the new modeling system I have a single quad core CPU (Xeon E5-1620), chosen because the fewer the cores, the higher the base speed, in this example- 3.6GHz, plus 24GB RAM.
A $300 Romley chip with 3.8GHz turboboost. Nice.
I wonder how many people really need 4TB?
Rendering a single day's work fills 20 gigs. I've become obsessed with version control, but determining what should be archived is hard because not everything can be saved. The drafts are a nightmare to manage; it
may be years before realizing something done earlier is needed.
I find that I am doing less rendering than I imagined- only about 5-10% of my time, and going to try fewer and faster cores.
Good workstations are tailored to the task and user--yet the user often doesn't know the task until encountering the first failures and opportunities. Workstations evolve, which is why I generally overdesign rather than simply meet requirements. I define a workstation as a production system that makes money. I feel for people coming out of colleges trained in technique, but not how to make money with the technique.
Rendering has now become everything. Each night, I stop at a place where it's productive to start again in the morning, which means I have to organize things based on what can be rendered overnight. During the day, each decision has to be rendered or playblasted to be evaluated. The longer it takes to render, the more likely a decision will not be fruitful. We're always limited by hardware and have to design workflow around it.
I have six of these from 6 to 11A and on sound gear, noise disappears that I didn't previously realize existed.
I've run into two that have cut external wires. Is there a reason for this?
One odd feature is that the as the hardware becomes cheaper, the software becomes much more expensive.
I see this as systemic weakness and don't see the trend lasting more than few more years. The software is so expensive because the support infrastructure has grown immense and they are trying to maintain quality. In general, as hardware becomes cheaper, the business incentive to replace people with technology grows, so high end software gets more expensive as the user base gets smaller. I expect Autodesk to go the direction of Adobe, eventually offering software on a solely subscription basis; after that, they go after a broader customer base, which is why I keep telling myself to spend more time with other packages, but haven't gotten around to it.
Just thoughts!
Ric
OnePersonBandStudio
August 26, 2013 3:10:05 PM
Supermicro is now offering the MBD-X9DA7-O for the version 2 E5 2600 chips:
http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon/C60...
By combining USB headers with SAS, it's a hybrid workstation/server board.
1) I wouldn't have to sacrifice expansion slots to get good I/O.
2) It supports 128gb of UDIMM for the RAM drives.
3) It's BIOS is prepared for version 2.
Am very interested in this board. Any thoughts on it?
http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon/C60...
By combining USB headers with SAS, it's a hybrid workstation/server board.
1) I wouldn't have to sacrifice expansion slots to get good I/O.
2) It supports 128gb of UDIMM for the RAM drives.
3) It's BIOS is prepared for version 2.
Am very interested in this board. Any thoughts on it?
burritobob
August 28, 2013 5:39:27 PM
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guchaochen
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Sound Card: Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium HD 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Lian-Li PC-A75 ATX Full Tower Case ($184.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold 1200W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($207.90 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-208DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($57.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-208DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($57.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $3997.75
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-04 17:40 EDT-0400)
slsPCs
October 6, 2013 4:44:09 AM
To configure a workstation first of all you have to know what the workstation is for. As mostly workstations in the forums are ment to be used for video-editing and rendering, I will assume that the following worstation is for this regard.
If my english ist not perfect I would like to appoligize.
One of the biggest mistakes made with workstations, especially for videoediting, is the balance of the components. You can throw in as much CPU and GPU-power as you want - if the storage is not fast enough it will not matter - you'll run into problems and have wasted your money.
A well balanced single-socket system (2011) could look as follows:
CPU, Mobo, Memory: 30%
VideoCard: 10%
Disks, HHD & SSDs: 28%
RAID Controller: 16%
Case, PSU & Drive Cages: 11%
Other components: 5%
This may be a rough guide.
You will find more about this within the follwoing link:
http://ppbm7.com/index.php/tweakers-page
Now lets do a system. As I'm not from USA I will do European prices right now and edit this post later on to fullfil the specs (Norwegg or Amazon). But prices are not the point, but the idea.
5 x Seagate Constellation ES.3 1TB, SATA 6Gb/s (ST1000NM0033)
@ RAID5, you can add 3 more to increase performance and size
1 x HighPoint RocketRAID 2720SGL, low profile, PCIe 2.0 x8
2 x LSI 3ware mini SAS x4 (SFF-8087) auf 4x SATA Kabel mit Seitenband, 1m (CBL-SFF8087-SATASB-10M/LSI00258)
1 x Samsung SSD 840 Evo Series 120GB, 2.5", SATA 6Gb/s (MZ-7TE120BW)
If hybernation is off, this is enough for OS and software.
1 x Intel Core i7-4930K, 6x 3.40GHz, boxed (BX80633I74930K)
@ a moderate OC, youst a few steps
4 x Kingston ValueRAM DIMM 8GB, DDR3-1600, CL11 (KVR16N11/8)
You can add another 32GB if needed
1 x MSI N760 TF 4GD5/OC Twin Frozr Gaming, GeForce GTX 760, 4GB GDDR5, 2x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort (V282-073R)
1 x Gigabyte GA-X79-UP4
1 x Thermalright HR-02 Macho Rev. A (BW)
1 x Fractal Design Define XL R2 schwarz, schallgedämmt (FD-CA-DEF-XL-R2-BL)
1 x be quiet! Straight Power E9 600W ATX 2.31 (E9-600W/BN193)
This would be around 2100€.
This is a balanced workstation that will do pretty fast as there are no bottlenecks. And you can speed up by adding more drives and more memory.
But oooops - there is a lot of money left, what shall we do?
Either one workstation is busy with rendering and you have a problem to do other workloads, or you do need another worksation for other reasons, maybe you are not alone?
You do also have a strong storage-system that is not used the whole time and capable to serve other stations as well. You just have to transfer datas fast enough - and therefore I recommend to add up to two other workstations by using 10GBase in daisy-chaining. All you need:
1 x ASUS PEB-10G/SFP PLUS/DUAL, 2x 10GBase SFP+ Direct Attach, PCIe x8, low profile (90-C1SEWA-00UAN0YZ)
2 x ASUS PEB-10G/SFP PLUS/SINGLE, 1x 10GBase SFP+ Direct Attach, PCIe x8, low profile
This would be around 500 €, altogether nearly 2600€ - so enough money for even two other balanced workstations:
1 x Samsung SSD 840 Evo Series 120GB, 2.5", SATA 6Gb/s (MZ-7TE120BW)
1 x Intel Xeon E3-1230 v3, 4x 3.30GHz, Sockel-1150, boxed (BX80646E31230V3)
2 x Kingston ValueRAM DIMM 8GB, DDR3-1600, CL11 (KVR16N11/8)
just throw another 2 dimms in as soon as you've earned the money and already upgraded the system above ;-)
1 x MSI N650Ti-PE-1GD5/OC GeForce GTX 650 Ti, 1GB GDDR5, 2x DVI, Mini HDMI (V280-025R)
1 x Gigabyte GA-H87-HD3
1 x Scythe Katana 4 (SCKTN-4000)
1 x Cooler Master Silencio 550 schwarz glänzend, schallgedämmt (RC-550-KKN1)
1 x be quiet! Pure Power L8 300W ATX 2.4 (BN220)
This would be 4000€ - OK, the limit was 4000$, but for example you could do this with only one bigger second workstation and a fully upgraded main-workstation - then you still have money left.
EDIT:
As promised here are configs within the specs of this "battle". I took the chance to show two other configs, assuming that only two workstations are needed:
Main WS:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($559.99 @ Amazon)
@ a very moderate OC, maybe only a few steps of Turbo-OC.
CPU Cooler: Scythe SCMG-3100 88.1 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X79-UD3 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($214.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ Amazon)
@ hybernation off
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES.3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.07 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES.3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.07 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES.3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.07 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES.3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.07 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES.3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.07 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES.3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.07 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES.3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.07 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES.3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.07 @ Amazon)
@ RAID5
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($255.91 @ Newegg)
At Amazon and Noregg the 4GB-version is unfortunately far too expensive, but would be a better card, otherwise even a GTX770 would be fine, especially with 4GB. A GTX680 would be fine as well - maybe you get it very cheap at the moment.
Case: Fractal Design Define XL R2 (Black Pearl) ATX Full Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts Platinum 650W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($100.00 @ Amazon)
Other: HighPoint RocketRAID 2720SGL 8-Port PCI-Express 2.0 x8 SAS/SATA RAID Controller ($155.00 @ Amazon)
Other: 3WARE Cable Multi-lane Internal Cable (SFF-8087) ($14.00 @ Amazon)
Other: 3WARE Cable Multi-lane Internal Cable (SFF-8087) ($14.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $2616.39
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-06 09:35 EDT-0400)
Secondary WS:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
@ high but reasonable OC, depending on the silicon lottery
CPU Cooler: Corsair H80i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ Amazon)
@ hybernation off
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 660 Ti 3GB Video Card ($234.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 450W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1257.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-06 09:36 EDT-0400)
And of course the 10GBase-cards - grab the cheapest one you find in your area as well as the much cheaper copper-cables. As infrustructure and periphery is not part of the "battle" I do not need to take this into consideration within the price-range ;-)
EDIT:
If this system is only used by one person, you only need to use the 2nd workstation with remote control. Also Caselabs has cases, which enables you to build both systems in one case. You should see the configuration of two or three workstation as one system - regardless if its used by one, two or even three persons.
If 10bit colour is needed within your workflow and you have a monitor that can handle it, you could, for example, add a Quadro easily, even a small/cheaper one, into the 2011-workstation. Normally you would have at least two monitors, one a 10bit-one, this monitor gets two cables, one from the GTX, one from the Quadro. You just have to switch if you have to do colour-work. In another forum we've already set up a system with two smaller workstations and a big one for two people, who normally work on the smaller stations. As both need sometimes to do colour-work, they just switch their monitors and mouse/keybord and have 10bit. For a small additional price. They also both have the full capacity of the storage via 10GBase, and if someone has big rendering or other jobs like this (what happens quite often), the 2011-workstation (which has no own periphals) does it while both guys continue to work on other jobs. Within the smaller workstations there is also a couple of WD Reds for archiv/backup of the big RAID-array. Call it invesment-density.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu6jlA7hPj8
EDIT out of topic:
For all those guys who need a much faster workstation:
14 x Samsung SSD 840 Evo Series 250GB, 2.5", SATA 6Gb/s (MZ-7TE250BW)
12 of them as RAID50 on ARECA
2 x Intel Xeon E5-2697 v2, 12x 2.70GHz, Sockel-2011, boxed (BX80635E52697V2)
2 x Corsair Vengeance schwarz DIMM Kit 32GB, DDR3-1866, CL10-11-10-30 (CMZ32GX3M4X1866C10)
1 x Areca ARC-1882ix-12, PCIe 3.0 x8
1 x Gigabyte GeForce GTX Titan WindForce 3X OC, 6GB GDDR5, 2x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort (GV-NTITANOC-6GD-B)
1 x ASUS Z9PE-D8 WS (dual Sockel-2011) (90-MSVDY0-G0EAY00T)
1 x ASUS PEB-10G/SFP PLUS/DUAL, 2x 10GBase SFP+ Direct Attach, PCIe x8, low profile (90-C1SEWA-00UAN0YZ)
3 x LSI 3ware mini SAS x4 (SFF-8087) auf 4x SATA Kabel, 0.5m (CBL-SFF8087OCF-05M)
1 x SilverStone SST-FF123, Staubfilter 120x120mm quadratisch
1 x DEMCiflex Staubfilter 200mm quadratisch schwarz/schwarz
8 x be quiet! Silent Wings 2 PWM 120mm (BL030)
rear fan as intake, three front fans as intake - others for H80i
1 x Corsair Carbide Series Air 540 mit Sichtfenster (CC-9011030-WW)
1 x Jou Jye JJ-1080M-SS schwarz, SAS/SATA 6Gb/s Wechselrahmen
just put away the fan - its not needed
2 x Corsair Hydro Series H80i (Sockel 1150/1155/1156/1366/2011/AM2/AM2+/AM3/AM3+/FM1/FM2) (CW-9060008-WW)
both in the top, push-pull, blowing out, with the fans mentioned above
1 x Corsair Professional Series Platinum AX860i 860W ATX 2.31 (CP-9020037-EU) (semi-passiv)
If my english ist not perfect I would like to appoligize.
One of the biggest mistakes made with workstations, especially for videoediting, is the balance of the components. You can throw in as much CPU and GPU-power as you want - if the storage is not fast enough it will not matter - you'll run into problems and have wasted your money.
A well balanced single-socket system (2011) could look as follows:
CPU, Mobo, Memory: 30%
VideoCard: 10%
Disks, HHD & SSDs: 28%
RAID Controller: 16%
Case, PSU & Drive Cages: 11%
Other components: 5%
This may be a rough guide.
You will find more about this within the follwoing link:
http://ppbm7.com/index.php/tweakers-page
Now lets do a system. As I'm not from USA I will do European prices right now and edit this post later on to fullfil the specs (Norwegg or Amazon). But prices are not the point, but the idea.
5 x Seagate Constellation ES.3 1TB, SATA 6Gb/s (ST1000NM0033)
@ RAID5, you can add 3 more to increase performance and size
1 x HighPoint RocketRAID 2720SGL, low profile, PCIe 2.0 x8
2 x LSI 3ware mini SAS x4 (SFF-8087) auf 4x SATA Kabel mit Seitenband, 1m (CBL-SFF8087-SATASB-10M/LSI00258)
1 x Samsung SSD 840 Evo Series 120GB, 2.5", SATA 6Gb/s (MZ-7TE120BW)
If hybernation is off, this is enough for OS and software.
1 x Intel Core i7-4930K, 6x 3.40GHz, boxed (BX80633I74930K)
@ a moderate OC, youst a few steps
4 x Kingston ValueRAM DIMM 8GB, DDR3-1600, CL11 (KVR16N11/8)
You can add another 32GB if needed
1 x MSI N760 TF 4GD5/OC Twin Frozr Gaming, GeForce GTX 760, 4GB GDDR5, 2x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort (V282-073R)
1 x Gigabyte GA-X79-UP4
1 x Thermalright HR-02 Macho Rev. A (BW)
1 x Fractal Design Define XL R2 schwarz, schallgedämmt (FD-CA-DEF-XL-R2-BL)
1 x be quiet! Straight Power E9 600W ATX 2.31 (E9-600W/BN193)
This would be around 2100€.
This is a balanced workstation that will do pretty fast as there are no bottlenecks. And you can speed up by adding more drives and more memory.
But oooops - there is a lot of money left, what shall we do?
Either one workstation is busy with rendering and you have a problem to do other workloads, or you do need another worksation for other reasons, maybe you are not alone?
You do also have a strong storage-system that is not used the whole time and capable to serve other stations as well. You just have to transfer datas fast enough - and therefore I recommend to add up to two other workstations by using 10GBase in daisy-chaining. All you need:
1 x ASUS PEB-10G/SFP PLUS/DUAL, 2x 10GBase SFP+ Direct Attach, PCIe x8, low profile (90-C1SEWA-00UAN0YZ)
2 x ASUS PEB-10G/SFP PLUS/SINGLE, 1x 10GBase SFP+ Direct Attach, PCIe x8, low profile
This would be around 500 €, altogether nearly 2600€ - so enough money for even two other balanced workstations:
1 x Samsung SSD 840 Evo Series 120GB, 2.5", SATA 6Gb/s (MZ-7TE120BW)
1 x Intel Xeon E3-1230 v3, 4x 3.30GHz, Sockel-1150, boxed (BX80646E31230V3)
2 x Kingston ValueRAM DIMM 8GB, DDR3-1600, CL11 (KVR16N11/8)
just throw another 2 dimms in as soon as you've earned the money and already upgraded the system above ;-)
1 x MSI N650Ti-PE-1GD5/OC GeForce GTX 650 Ti, 1GB GDDR5, 2x DVI, Mini HDMI (V280-025R)
1 x Gigabyte GA-H87-HD3
1 x Scythe Katana 4 (SCKTN-4000)
1 x Cooler Master Silencio 550 schwarz glänzend, schallgedämmt (RC-550-KKN1)
1 x be quiet! Pure Power L8 300W ATX 2.4 (BN220)
This would be 4000€ - OK, the limit was 4000$, but for example you could do this with only one bigger second workstation and a fully upgraded main-workstation - then you still have money left.
EDIT:
As promised here are configs within the specs of this "battle". I took the chance to show two other configs, assuming that only two workstations are needed:
Main WS:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($559.99 @ Amazon)
@ a very moderate OC, maybe only a few steps of Turbo-OC.
CPU Cooler: Scythe SCMG-3100 88.1 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X79-UD3 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($214.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ Amazon)
@ hybernation off
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES.3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.07 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES.3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.07 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES.3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.07 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES.3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.07 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES.3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.07 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES.3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.07 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES.3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.07 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES.3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.07 @ Amazon)
@ RAID5
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($255.91 @ Newegg)
At Amazon and Noregg the 4GB-version is unfortunately far too expensive, but would be a better card, otherwise even a GTX770 would be fine, especially with 4GB. A GTX680 would be fine as well - maybe you get it very cheap at the moment.
Case: Fractal Design Define XL R2 (Black Pearl) ATX Full Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts Platinum 650W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($100.00 @ Amazon)
Other: HighPoint RocketRAID 2720SGL 8-Port PCI-Express 2.0 x8 SAS/SATA RAID Controller ($155.00 @ Amazon)
Other: 3WARE Cable Multi-lane Internal Cable (SFF-8087) ($14.00 @ Amazon)
Other: 3WARE Cable Multi-lane Internal Cable (SFF-8087) ($14.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $2616.39
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-06 09:35 EDT-0400)
Secondary WS:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
@ high but reasonable OC, depending on the silicon lottery
CPU Cooler: Corsair H80i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ Amazon)
@ hybernation off
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 660 Ti 3GB Video Card ($234.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 450W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1257.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-06 09:36 EDT-0400)
And of course the 10GBase-cards - grab the cheapest one you find in your area as well as the much cheaper copper-cables. As infrustructure and periphery is not part of the "battle" I do not need to take this into consideration within the price-range ;-)
EDIT:
If this system is only used by one person, you only need to use the 2nd workstation with remote control. Also Caselabs has cases, which enables you to build both systems in one case. You should see the configuration of two or three workstation as one system - regardless if its used by one, two or even three persons.
If 10bit colour is needed within your workflow and you have a monitor that can handle it, you could, for example, add a Quadro easily, even a small/cheaper one, into the 2011-workstation. Normally you would have at least two monitors, one a 10bit-one, this monitor gets two cables, one from the GTX, one from the Quadro. You just have to switch if you have to do colour-work. In another forum we've already set up a system with two smaller workstations and a big one for two people, who normally work on the smaller stations. As both need sometimes to do colour-work, they just switch their monitors and mouse/keybord and have 10bit. For a small additional price. They also both have the full capacity of the storage via 10GBase, and if someone has big rendering or other jobs like this (what happens quite often), the 2011-workstation (which has no own periphals) does it while both guys continue to work on other jobs. Within the smaller workstations there is also a couple of WD Reds for archiv/backup of the big RAID-array. Call it invesment-density.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu6jlA7hPj8
EDIT out of topic:
For all those guys who need a much faster workstation:
14 x Samsung SSD 840 Evo Series 250GB, 2.5", SATA 6Gb/s (MZ-7TE250BW)
12 of them as RAID50 on ARECA
2 x Intel Xeon E5-2697 v2, 12x 2.70GHz, Sockel-2011, boxed (BX80635E52697V2)
2 x Corsair Vengeance schwarz DIMM Kit 32GB, DDR3-1866, CL10-11-10-30 (CMZ32GX3M4X1866C10)
1 x Areca ARC-1882ix-12, PCIe 3.0 x8
1 x Gigabyte GeForce GTX Titan WindForce 3X OC, 6GB GDDR5, 2x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort (GV-NTITANOC-6GD-B)
1 x ASUS Z9PE-D8 WS (dual Sockel-2011) (90-MSVDY0-G0EAY00T)
1 x ASUS PEB-10G/SFP PLUS/DUAL, 2x 10GBase SFP+ Direct Attach, PCIe x8, low profile (90-C1SEWA-00UAN0YZ)
3 x LSI 3ware mini SAS x4 (SFF-8087) auf 4x SATA Kabel, 0.5m (CBL-SFF8087OCF-05M)
1 x SilverStone SST-FF123, Staubfilter 120x120mm quadratisch
1 x DEMCiflex Staubfilter 200mm quadratisch schwarz/schwarz
8 x be quiet! Silent Wings 2 PWM 120mm (BL030)
rear fan as intake, three front fans as intake - others for H80i
1 x Corsair Carbide Series Air 540 mit Sichtfenster (CC-9011030-WW)
1 x Jou Jye JJ-1080M-SS schwarz, SAS/SATA 6Gb/s Wechselrahmen
just put away the fan - its not needed
2 x Corsair Hydro Series H80i (Sockel 1150/1155/1156/1366/2011/AM2/AM2+/AM3/AM3+/FM1/FM2) (CW-9060008-WW)
both in the top, push-pull, blowing out, with the fans mentioned above
1 x Corsair Professional Series Platinum AX860i 860W ATX 2.31 (CP-9020037-EU) (semi-passiv)
sadams04
October 15, 2013 7:20:21 AM
Seth's "Bring It" Processing Rig
Processor: 2 x Xeon E5-2630 v2 Ivy Bridge-EP - $650 / $1300
Motherboard: SUPERMICRO MBD-X9DR3-F-O Dual LGA 2011 - $450
CPU Coolers: 2 x Dynatron R25 80mm Narrow Type - $35 / $75
RAM: 4 x Crucial 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1600 ECC CL9 1.5v - $106 / $424
Graphics Card: AMD FirePro W7000 4GB - $680
Boot / OS: 2 x Samsung 840 Pro 256GB - $247 / $494
Hard Drive: 2 x Seagate 2TB 7200RPM - $100 / $200
Optical: LG 16x BD-RW - $80
Case: NZXT Phantom Full Tower - $120
Power Supply: Seasonic SS-760XP2 Platinum - $170
Total: $3993
Processor: 2 x Xeon E5-2630 v2 Ivy Bridge-EP - $650 / $1300
Motherboard: SUPERMICRO MBD-X9DR3-F-O Dual LGA 2011 - $450
CPU Coolers: 2 x Dynatron R25 80mm Narrow Type - $35 / $75
RAM: 4 x Crucial 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1600 ECC CL9 1.5v - $106 / $424
Graphics Card: AMD FirePro W7000 4GB - $680
Boot / OS: 2 x Samsung 840 Pro 256GB - $247 / $494
Hard Drive: 2 x Seagate 2TB 7200RPM - $100 / $200
Optical: LG 16x BD-RW - $80
Case: NZXT Phantom Full Tower - $120
Power Supply: Seasonic SS-760XP2 Platinum - $170
Total: $3993
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