FX6300+HD7790 vs 6800K+HD7750

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Hello everyone,
I am considering a entry gaming PC build. For now I have stopped at CPU/GPU vs APU/GPU combo choice. So, FX6300+HD7790(1GDDR5) vs 6800K+HD7750(1GDDR5). First is a faster CPU ang GPU, seccond is a slower CPU with GPU and another GPU with crossfire in mind. Mentioned APU/GPU combo is confimed to work here.

I have not made any FX6300 motherboard research; for the 6800K I am looking at Asus F2A85-V or Asus F2A85-V PRO. Later is more expensive, but has better (read more newbie friendly) OC features and some other features regarding bios flashing, etc. Is it worth the extra money?

Remaining components:
a couple of Crucial Ballistix 4GB DDR3 PC3-14900 CL10 BLS4G3D18ADS3CEU
case Cooler Master Elite 370 RC-370-KKP500 with 500W PSU inside
hdd Western Digital CAVIAR Blue 1TB SATA 7200RPM 64MB WD10EZEX

I would like not to go up with price. Mentioned build already is slightly above my budget even without the more expensive PRO mummy.

P.S. I know there are a lot of smart people here, and I am a newbie regarding PC building thus please excuse me if I am missing something or considering something completely wrong

Thanks in advance for your help!
Paul

 

[Rafeed Iqbal]

fx 6300 + 7790 is far better. remember to get a good cpu cooler and mobo so you can overclock. what's your budget?

 

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Even with crossfire running? I am unable to find any comparable tests of the two setups...
My budget is roughly USD650. 6800K+HD7750 setup is USD653 and FX6300+HD7790 is USD675 (estimate).

 

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Ok, I have found some stats, but don't know how they compare to real life performance.
The integrated GPU: 768GFlops
http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/8000/Pages/8670.aspx#2
7750 819Gflops:
http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/7000/7750/Pages/radeon-7750.aspx#2
total: 1587Gflops
7790 1790Gflops:
http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/7000/7790/Pages/radeon-7790.aspx#3

If that is representative, 7790 is actually faster than the combo. Am I on the right track?

 

[Rafeed Iqbal]

Even with crossfire running? I am unable to find any comparable tests of the two setups...
My budget is roughly USD650. 6800K+HD7750 setup is USD653 and FX6300+HD7790 is USD675 (estimate).

Ok, I have found some stats, but don't know how they compare to real life performance.
The integrated GPU: 768GFlops
http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/8000/Pages/8670.aspx#2
7750 819Gflops:
http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/7000/7750/Pages/radeon-7750.aspx#2
total: 1587Gflops
7790 1790Gflops:
http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/7000/7790/Pages/radeon-7790.aspx#3

If that is representative, 7790 is actually faster than the combo. Am I on the right track?

yep plus in the future you will want to upgrade, and when you do the fx6300 build will scale better as you won't be bottlenecked by the slow a10. the A10 is better used as a standalone cheapo solution, it's not meant to be paired with anything more than the lowest end GPUs.

 

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Thanks for replies.

I have came up with following setup:
Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0
AMD FX-Series FX-6300 SAM3+ BOX FD6300WMHKBOX
2x Crucial Ballistix 4GB DDR3 PC3-14900 CL10 BLS4G3D18ADS3CEU
Asus AMD/​ATI Radeon HD7790 1GB GDDR5 PCIE HD7790-DC2OC-1GD5
Cooler Master Elite 370 RC-370-KKP500
Western Digital CAVIAR Blue 1TB SATA 7200RPM 64MB WD10EZEX

Regarding MB, I was choosing from Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 and Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0.

over budget by USD90, but I would manage that.

Do I have a green light?

 

[Rafeed Iqbal]

Thanks for replies.

I have came up with following setup:
Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0
AMD FX-Series FX-6300 SAM3+ BOX FD6300WMHKBOX
2x Crucial Ballistix 4GB DDR3 PC3-14900 CL10 BLS4G3D18ADS3CEU
Asus AMD/​ATI Radeon HD7790 1GB GDDR5 PCIE HD7790-DC2OC-1GD5
Cooler Master Elite 370 RC-370-KKP500
Western Digital CAVIAR Blue 1TB SATA 7200RPM 64MB WD10EZEX

Regarding MB, I was choosing from Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 and Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0.

over budget by USD90, but I would manage that.

Do I have a green light?

get a cpu cooler! the fx 6300 is great overclocker and will be needed as amd's operations per clock (ipc) is lower than intel and it will alleviate any possible bottlenecks. a cheap, small, quality cooler is the Xigmatek LOKI. if you can't afford it now try and get a good cooler in the future. oh and if you can find some cheaper 1600mhz ram you could bring the cost down.

 

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Cheapest 1600mhz in local store is USD4 cheaper than Ballistix Sport TX
I would add another 2USD and get the CRUCIAL BALLISTIX Tactical 4GB DDR3 PC3-12800 CL8 if the CL8 instead of CL9 is worth it.

 

[Rafeed Iqbal]

Cheapest 1600mhz in local store is USD4 cheaper than Ballistix Sport TX
I would add another 2USD and get the CRUCIAL BALLISTIX Tactical 4GB DDR3 PC3-12800 CL8 if the CL8 instead of CL9 is worth it.

no it's not worth it. if that is the case then your good to go!

 

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Thanks for your input!

One last question...
Cooler Master Elite 370 RC-370-KKP500 with 500W inside vs
Nexus Tower Thrio 310 with Chieftec GPS ATX2.3 80+ 700W

Later is +35USD . It is just a recommendation of my college. It might be a futureproofness investment in case I would want to upgrade the system in a few years with another GPU for some crisscrossing.

Would like to hear some educated opinion. Thanks!

 

[Rafeed Iqbal]

Thanks for your input!

One last question...
Cooler Master Elite 370 RC-370-KKP500 with 500W inside vs
Nexus Tower Thrio 310 with Chieftec GPS ATX2.3 80+ 700W

Later is +35USD . It is just a recommendation of my college. It might be a futureproofness investment in case I would want to upgrade the system in a few years with another GPU for some crisscrossing.

Would like to hear some educated opinion. Thanks!

oh nonononononono. Do not, I repeat, don't get integrated PSUs, ESPECIALLY NOT CHIEFTEC ONES (unless ,of course, your on an extremely low budget) get the 20 dollar corsair cx 430 and the sub 50$ nzxt elite 210 or any case that fits your budget.

 

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Thanks for your input!

One last question...
Cooler Master Elite 370 RC-370-KKP500 with 500W inside vs
Nexus Tower Thrio 310 with Chieftec GPS ATX2.3 80+ 700W

Later is +35USD . It is just a recommendation of my college. It might be a futureproofness investment in case I would want to upgrade the system in a few years with another GPU for some crisscrossing.

Would like to hear some educated opinion. Thanks!

oh nonononononono. Do not, I repeat, don't get integrated PSUs, ESPECIALLY NOT CHIEFTEC ONES (unless ,of course, your on an extremely low budget) get the 20 dollar corsair cx 430 and the sub 50$ nzxt elite 210 or any case that fits your budget.

But how about power? AMD for HD7790 recommends 500W if single, 600W if double.
Today's PC building is a new territory to me.

 

[Rafeed Iqbal]

Thanks for your input!

One last question...
Cooler Master Elite 370 RC-370-KKP500 with 500W inside vs
Nexus Tower Thrio 310 with Chieftec GPS ATX2.3 80+ 700W

Later is +35USD . It is just a recommendation of my college. It might be a futureproofness investment in case I would want to upgrade the system in a few years with another GPU for some crisscrossing.

Would like to hear some educated opinion. Thanks!

oh nonononononono. Do not, I repeat, don't get integrated PSUs, ESPECIALLY NOT CHIEFTEC ONES (unless ,of course, your on an extremely low budget) get the 20 dollar corsair cx 430 and the sub 50$ nzxt elite 210 or any case that fits your budget.

But how about power? AMD for HD7790 recommends 500W if single, 600W if double.
Today's PC building is a new territory to me.

the 430 w model will work fine but when you'll upgrade in the future i'd get a better 600w unit, anyways if you can, try and get a 500- 600w unit from the following brands : Antec, Seasonic, Corsair, PC Power & Cooling and med-high models from EVGA, Rosewill, and XFX.

 

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Thanks for your input!

One last question...
Cooler Master Elite 370 RC-370-KKP500 with 500W inside vs
Nexus Tower Thrio 310 with Chieftec GPS ATX2.3 80+ 700W

Later is +35USD . It is just a recommendation of my college. It might be a futureproofness investment in case I would want to upgrade the system in a few years with another GPU for some crisscrossing.

Would like to hear some educated opinion. Thanks!

oh nonononononono. Do not, I repeat, don't get integrated PSUs, ESPECIALLY NOT CHIEFTEC ONES (unless ,of course, your on an extremely low budget) get the 20 dollar corsair cx 430 and the sub 50$ nzxt elite 210 or any case that fits your budget.

But how about power? AMD for HD7790 recommends 500W if single, 600W if double.
Today's PC building is a new territory to me.

the 430 w model will work fine but when you'll upgrade in the future i'd get a better 600w unit, anyways if you can, try and get a 500- 600w unit from the following brands : Antec, Seasonic, Corsair, PC Power & Cooling and med-high models from EVGA, Rosewill, and XFX.

I can get the CORSAIR BUILDER CX500 ATX2.3 80+ 500W or Corsair CX600 ATX2.3 80+ 600W

 

[opponentmule2]

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1qaHS
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1qaHS/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1qaHS/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($117.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Biostar TA970 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($63.75 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 500R Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $701.64
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-09 18:01 EDT-0400)

This is the build i'm doing for my dad. It should be a great budget PC with a POWERFUL GPU for gaming and video rendering.

 

[Rafeed Iqbal]

Thanks for your input!

One last question...
Cooler Master Elite 370 RC-370-KKP500 with 500W inside vs
Nexus Tower Thrio 310 with Chieftec GPS ATX2.3 80+ 700W

Later is +35USD . It is just a recommendation of my college. It might be a futureproofness investment in case I would want to upgrade the system in a few years with another GPU for some crisscrossing.

Would like to hear some educated opinion. Thanks!

oh nonononononono. Do not, I repeat, don't get integrated PSUs, ESPECIALLY NOT CHIEFTEC ONES (unless ,of course, your on an extremely low budget) get the 20 dollar corsair cx 430 and the sub 50$ nzxt elite 210 or any case that fits your budget.

But how about power? AMD for HD7790 recommends 500W if single, 600W if double.
Today's PC building is a new territory to me.

the 430 w model will work fine but when you'll upgrade in the future i'd get a better 600w unit, anyways if you can, try and get a 500- 600w unit from the following brands : Antec, Seasonic, Corsair, PC Power & Cooling and med-high models from EVGA, Rosewill, and XFX.

I can get the CORSAIR BUILDER CX500 ATX2.3 80+ 500W or Corsair CX600 ATX2.3 80+ 600W

get the 600w, since you won't want to push those units too much (they don't have long lasting capacitors), so your good!

 

[Rafeed Iqbal]

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1qaHS
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1qaHS/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1qaHS/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($117.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Biostar TA970 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($63.75 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 500R Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $701.64
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-09 18:01 EDT-0400)

This is the build i'm doing for my dad. It should be a great budget PC with a POWERFUL GPU for gaming and video rendering.

great build but i think op is buying locally.

 

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Ok, I have some more rumors regarding PSUs...
Gigabyte ATX 2.3 620W PFC/ACTIVE SUPERB GE-E620A-C3 vs Corsair CX600 ATX2.3 80+ 600W (hopefully this is final choice, no more jumping back and forth).
Here it is said that Gigabyte is preffered by AMD regarding Cool'n'Quiet support though I was unable to find an official source to confirm this. Besides, Gigabyte is cheaper by USD9.12. Both are more that enough for two GPUs in case of future upgrade.

 

[Rafeed Iqbal]

Ok, I have some more rumors regarding PSUs...
Gigabyte ATX 2.3 620W PFC/ACTIVE SUPERB GE-E620A-C3 vs Corsair CX600 ATX2.3 80+ 600W (hopefully this is final choice, no more jumping back and forth).
Here it is said that Gigabyte is preffered by AMD regarding Cool'n'Quiet support though I was unable to find an official source to confirm this. Besides, Gigabyte is cheaper by USD9.12. Both are more that enough for two GPUs in case of future upgrade.

i'd go for the corsair unit as i can't find any reviews for the gigabyte unit unit and because it's sibling psus are known to lie about their wattage.

 

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Final build.

MB Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 160 USD
CPU AMD FX-Series FX-6300 SAM3+ BOX FD6300WMHKBOX 137 USD
RAM 2x Crucial Ballistix 4GB DDR3 PC3-12800 CL8 BLT4G3D1608DT1TX0 93 USD
GPU Asus AMD/​ATI Radeon HD7790 1GB GDDR5 PCIE HD7790-DC2OC-1GD5 167 USD
Case Nexus Tower Thrio 310 48 USD
2x Nexus Case Fan 120mm D12SL-12 BLACK/​WHITE 11 USD
HDD Western Digital CAVIAR Blue 1TB SATA 7200RPM 64MB WD10EZEX 76 USD
LCD Philips 227E4QHAD 160 USD
PSU Corsair CX600 ATX2.3 80+ 600W 82 USD
Lite-On DVDRW 24X SATA Black IHAS124-04 20 USD
Total: 953 USD (with a LCD monitor)

Hopefully balanced, well ageing, very good performance/$ and with enough headroom for OC after fitting a decent CPU cooler some day later.

Thanks for your help! Special thanks goes to Rafeed Iqbal.

 

[Rafeed Iqbal]

Final build.

MB Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 160 USD
CPU AMD FX-Series FX-6300 SAM3+ BOX FD6300WMHKBOX 137 USD
RAM 2x Crucial Ballistix 4GB DDR3 PC3-12800 CL8 BLT4G3D1608DT1TX0 93 USD
GPU Asus AMD/​ATI Radeon HD7790 1GB GDDR5 PCIE HD7790-DC2OC-1GD5 167 USD
Case Nexus Tower Thrio 310 48 USD
2x Nexus Case Fan 120mm D12SL-12 BLACK/​WHITE 11 USD
HDD Western Digital CAVIAR Blue 1TB SATA 7200RPM 64MB WD10EZEX 76 USD
LCD Philips 227E4QHAD 160 USD
PSU Corsair CX600 ATX2.3 80+ 600W 82 USD
Lite-On DVDRW 24X SATA Black IHAS124-04 20 USD
Total: 953 USD (with a LCD monitor)

Hopefully balanced, well ageing, very good performance/$ and with enough headroom for OC after fitting a decent CPU cooler some day later.

Thanks for your help! Special thanks goes to Rafeed Iqbal.

nice build! your welcome! if you have any problems with the build you can always come back.