New CPU or another Graphicscard?

[Zerratastic]

Hi

I have the AMD FX 8350 processor with Asus Sabertooth 3gen limited edition and I have had it for like a month and I just dont think the cpu is good enough. So my question is if i should by the Intel i7 4770k or another graphicscard and go SLI with GTX 770. It can handel bf3 on ultra with little lag but other games it is bad FPS. Like on Euro Truck Simulator 2 it cant handel Ultra in the citys but on the higway it is a little bit laggy, and on ABP also bad fps, CS:GO like on bf3, and on minecraft it stands that i have betwen 150 and 400 fps but it lags any way. So dont know what to do? Help pleas!

Sorry for my bad English im from Sweden

Thanks

 

[hiporc]

I do believe it is your possessor acting as your bottleneck, because the 770 is an absolute amazing card.

I wish i knew more about AMD processors. There is no benifit getting a i7 over a i5. The only difference is hyper threading, which will only benefit you if you do rendering. Also I would go Ivy bridge instead of Haswell. The performance boost from Haswell is not worth the money as it is very pathetic. I would go a i5 - 3570k or a i7 - 3770k if you really want a i7. With the money you save from going that way you can buy a decent cooler and overclock your processor. Both those processors i listed can run Battlefield on Ultra perfectly even without being overclocked.

If you decide to add a second graphics card instead it will not fix your problem as your processor is still your bottle neck.

I hoped this helped!

 

[Zerratastic]

I do believe it is your possessor acting as your bottleneck, because the 770 is an absolute amazing card.

I wish i knew more about AMD processors. There is no benifit getting a i7 over a i5. The only difference is hyper threading, which will only benefit you if you do rendering. Also I would go Ivy bridge instead of Haswell. The performance boost from Haswell is not worth the money as it is very pathetic. I would go a i5 - 3570k or a i7 - 3770k if you really want a i7. With the money you save from going that way you can buy a decent cooler and overclock your processor. Both those processors i listed can run Battlefield on Ultra perfectly even without being overclocked.

If you decide to add a second graphics card instead it will not fix your problem as your processor is still your bottle neck.

I hoped this helped!

Thanks man it helped me a lot . But what is the real difference betwen the 3770k and 3570k, would they last long enough for gaming so i dont need to by a new one after one or two years. Or should i just by the 4770k, it is a hard choice. But the 4770 seems realy good so i dont know. But i think i want a i7 but i dont know which one. The money difference betwen 4770k and 3770k are 1,5 US $, 1,1 Euros, 10 Swedish kr in Sweden. The socket isn't the same the 4770k are socket 1150 and 3770k are 1155, is it a big difference?

 

[hiporc]

I do believe it is your possessor acting as your bottleneck, because the 770 is an absolute amazing card.

I wish i knew more about AMD processors. There is no benifit getting a i7 over a i5. The only difference is hyper threading, which will only benefit you if you do rendering. Also I would go Ivy bridge instead of Haswell. The performance boost from Haswell is not worth the money as it is very pathetic. I would go a i5 - 3570k or a i7 - 3770k if you really want a i7. With the money you save from going that way you can buy a decent cooler and overclock your processor. Both those processors i listed can run Battlefield on Ultra perfectly even without being overclocked.

If you decide to add a second graphics card instead it will not fix your problem as your processor is still your bottle neck.

I hoped this helped!

Thanks man it helped me a lot . But what is the real difference betwen the 3770k and 3570k, would they last long enough for gaming so i dont need to by a new one after one or two years. Or should i just by the 4770k, it is a hard choice. But the 4770 seems realy good so i dont know. But i think i want a i7 but i dont know which one. The money difference betwen 4770k and 3770k are 1,5 US $, 1,1 Euros, 10 Swedish kr in Sweden. The socket isn't the same the 4770k are socket 1150 and 3770k are 1155, is it a big difference?

3770k has hyper threading which means it has 8 virtual cores. It does not benefit anything but rendering.

The 4770k motherboards cost alot more.

The socket does not make a difference. Its basically the plug it uses. You need to have the mobo with the right plug to fit the cpu you have... If that makes sense.

All in all it all comes down to opinion. Yes the 4770k is better, but not much better at all. The 3770k is able to be overclocked higher there fore is faster that way. When this all comes down to your games, it will make no noticeable difference at all.

If you are not interested in overlcocking go for a 4770k, if you think you would like to overclock, go for a 3770k.

 

[Gam3r01]

The 8350 is one of the best amd cpus on the market, and has one of the longest future proof lifespans on cpus at the moment. That processor wont bottleneck a 770, it wont even bottleneck a sli 770 set up. The 8350 will last for years to come so that should not be the issue here.

 

[hiporc]

The 8350 is one of the best amd cpus on the market, and has one of the longest future proof lifespans on cpus at the moment. That processor wont bottleneck a 770, it wont even bottleneck a sli 770 set up. The 8350 will last for years to come so that should not be the issue here.

I stand corrected then. Although i highly disagree that it is the 770, because i have a 670 that runs everything at 60Fps no dips.

Zerratastic what kind of hard drive are you using?

 

[hiporc]

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-core-i7-3770k-gaming-bottleneck,3407-9.html

Take a look at this, the 3770k wins buy a long shot! (the top black line to the third from the top...(blackline is performance))

 

[Gam3r01]

It should not be the 770 by any means I agree, but it also should not be the cpu. My best guess is it lies somewhere in the motherboard, specifically the pcie x16 slot.

 

[hiporc]

It should not be the 770 by any means I agree, but it also should not be the cpu. My best guess is it lies somewhere in the motherboard, specifically the pcie x16 slot.

Im thinking more of software maybe? Is all you divers installed correctly and all up to date?

 

[Zerratastic]

I run Windows 7 on a Samsung 840 basic SSD. Al drivers a correctly installed and up to date. But Gam3r01 said that it could be the pcie x16 slot so could it be that the graphicscard isn't realy in place? It was my brother that helped me to build because he had build a lot of computers but never a AMD one so it was kinda new to him aswell. So i dont know what processor i should by if I need one, I dont think I am going to overclock but maybe in the future so still dont know if I should choose the 4770k or 3770k.

 

[Gam3r01]

You wont need a new processor any time soon, so that isnt an issue. By the time that needs to be replaced there will be much better cpus on the market. Do you know your motherboard model?

 

[hiporc]

The Graphics card should be in the top pci-e slot. Make sure your SSD is pluged into the 6gb/s port, and make sure your ssd never goes above 80% full or it will be a snail. If all those things are correct, then the only thing i see is a plausible virus or programs conflicting. Nothing we can help you with over the internet, sorry bud.

 

[hiporc]

You don't need a new CPU by any means.

Yes we have gone over that already, do you know what could be causing the lag?

 

[Zerratastic]

Okay thanks to all of you. The motherboard is Asus Sabertooth 990FX/GEN3 R2.0 and the SSD is in the 6gb/s and the graphicscard is in the top slot. Could it be that the CPU is to hot? it is at 45-50 C when im gaming the CPU Fan is a Noctua NH-L12 low profile and Im only using the big fan/the top one because I could not get the tiny one in. The case is a CoolerMaster Storm Stryker - White and the front fans is faceing to the side. But will another GTX 770 and have it SLI make it better or do I still going to get that lag and just wasting my money? Or i maybe think i know what it is now, the ram? I have Corsair Vengeance 16GB DDR3 PC3-12800 1600MHz (CMZ16GX3M2A1600C10) (2x8GB) they are maybe to crappy?

 

[hiporc]

Okay thanks to all of you. The motherboard is Asus Sabertooth 990FX/GEN3 R2.0 and the SSD is in the 6gb/s and the graphicscard is in the top slot. Could it be that the CPU is to hot? it is at 45-50 C when im gaming the CPU Fan is a Noctua NH-L12 low profile and Im only using the big fan/the top one because I could not get the tiny one in. The case is a CoolerMaster Storm Stryker - White and the front fans is faceing to the side. But will another GTX 770 and have it SLI make it better or do I still going to get that lag and just wasting my money? Or i maybe think i know what it is now, the ram? I have Corsair Vengeance 16GB DDR3 PC3-12800 1600MHz (CMZ16GX3M2A1600C10) (2x8GB) they are maybe to crappy?

your temperatures are good (quite low), the ram is the same as mine (its not the ram) , i have the cm storm trooper (basically the same case). Getting a second video card is 95% not going to solve your problem. How full is your ssd?

 

[Zerratastic]

Okay thanks to all of you. The motherboard is Asus Sabertooth 990FX/GEN3 R2.0 and the SSD is in the 6gb/s and the graphicscard is in the top slot. Could it be that the CPU is to hot? it is at 45-50 C when im gaming the CPU Fan is a Noctua NH-L12 low profile and Im only using the big fan/the top one because I could not get the tiny one in. The case is a CoolerMaster Storm Stryker - White and the front fans is faceing to the side. But will another GTX 770 and have it SLI make it better or do I still going to get that lag and just wasting my money? Or i maybe think i know what it is now, the ram? I have Corsair Vengeance 16GB DDR3 PC3-12800 1600MHz (CMZ16GX3M2A1600C10) (2x8GB) they are maybe to crappy?

your temperatures are good (quite low), the ram is the same as mine (its not the ram) , i have the cm storm trooper (basically the same case). Getting a second video card is 95% not going to solve your problem. How full is your ssd?

It is a 250 Gb and i have 139 gb left of 232 it stands

 

[hiporc]

Okay thanks to all of you. The motherboard is Asus Sabertooth 990FX/GEN3 R2.0 and the SSD is in the 6gb/s and the graphicscard is in the top slot. Could it be that the CPU is to hot? it is at 45-50 C when im gaming the CPU Fan is a Noctua NH-L12 low profile and Im only using the big fan/the top one because I could not get the tiny one in. The case is a CoolerMaster Storm Stryker - White and the front fans is faceing to the side. But will another GTX 770 and have it SLI make it better or do I still going to get that lag and just wasting my money? Or i maybe think i know what it is now, the ram? I have Corsair Vengeance 16GB DDR3 PC3-12800 1600MHz (CMZ16GX3M2A1600C10) (2x8GB) they are maybe to crappy?

your temperatures are good (quite low), the ram is the same as mine (its not the ram) , i have the cm storm trooper (basically the same case). Getting a second video card is 95% not going to solve your problem. How full is your ssd?

It is a 250 Gb and i have 139 gb left of 232 it stands

:/ well that eliminates that possibility...

 

[hiporc]

What kind of lagging? (input lag, frame lag, ping lag)? I honestly have gone through every possibility twice in my head... The absolute last thing i can imagine is that there is a program in the background that is eating up all your processing power.

 

[Zerratastic]

Okay thanks to all of you. The motherboard is Asus Sabertooth 990FX/GEN3 R2.0 and the SSD is in the 6gb/s and the graphicscard is in the top slot. Could it be that the CPU is to hot? it is at 45-50 C when im gaming the CPU Fan is a Noctua NH-L12 low profile and Im only using the big fan/the top one because I could not get the tiny one in. The case is a CoolerMaster Storm Stryker - White and the front fans is faceing to the side. But will another GTX 770 and have it SLI make it better or do I still going to get that lag and just wasting my money? Or i maybe think i know what it is now, the ram? I have Corsair Vengeance 16GB DDR3 PC3-12800 1600MHz (CMZ16GX3M2A1600C10) (2x8GB) they are maybe to crappy?

your temperatures are good (quite low), the ram is the same as mine (its not the ram) , i have the cm storm trooper (basically the same case). Getting a second video card is 95% not going to solve your problem. How full is your ssd?

It is a 250 Gb and i have 139 gb left of 232 it stands

:/ well that eliminates that possibility...

So it is basically to much memory on the SSD?

 

[Zerratastic]

What kind of lagging? (input lag, frame lag, ping lag)? I honestly have gone through every possibility twice in my head... The absolute last thing i can imagine is that there is a program in the background that is eating up all your processing power.

It is definitely not ping lag because i have around 10 to 15 ping on the servers i play on bf3. And I dont think it is frame lag either because i have around 150 to 350 FPS on minecraft all the time (mostly on 220 fps). And I have installed NVIDIA GeForce Experience just because I wanted to check wat it was and i think that is running in the background because it is down in that field down to the right when you click on that arrow.

 

[hiporc]

Okay thanks to all of you. The motherboard is Asus Sabertooth 990FX/GEN3 R2.0 and the SSD is in the 6gb/s and the graphicscard is in the top slot. Could it be that the CPU is to hot? it is at 45-50 C when im gaming the CPU Fan is a Noctua NH-L12 low profile and Im only using the big fan/the top one because I could not get the tiny one in. The case is a CoolerMaster Storm Stryker - White and the front fans is faceing to the side. But will another GTX 770 and have it SLI make it better or do I still going to get that lag and just wasting my money? Or i maybe think i know what it is now, the ram? I have Corsair Vengeance 16GB DDR3 PC3-12800 1600MHz (CMZ16GX3M2A1600C10) (2x8GB) they are maybe to crappy?

your temperatures are good (quite low), the ram is the same as mine (its not the ram) , i have the cm storm trooper (basically the same case). Getting a second video card is 95% not going to solve your problem. How full is your ssd?

It is a 250 Gb and i have 139 gb left of 232 it stands

:/ well that eliminates that possibility...

So it is basically to much memory on the SSD?

No, Just making sure that the ssd is not too full. keep the ssd below 80% full, your ssd is fine

 

[hiporc]

What kind of lagging? (input lag, frame lag, ping lag)? I honestly have gone through every possibility twice in my head... The absolute last thing i can imagine is that there is a program in the background that is eating up all your processing power.

It is definitely not ping lag because i have around 10 to 15 ping on the servers i play on bf3. And I dont think it is frame lag either because i have around 150 to 350 FPS on minecraft all the time (mostly on 220 fps). And I have installed NVIDIA GeForce Experience just because I wanted to check wat it was and i think that is running in the background because it is down in that field down to the right when you click on that arrow.

If you press "Ctrl + Alt + Delete" at the same time then click "Task Manager" It will bring up a window. Click the "Processes" tab, then click the "CPU" sub tab till the arrow faces down. That will show the programs running from highest usage to least. Tell me the top 5 at idle, and also play some bf3 and apb, tell me the top 5-7 during that.

 

[Zerratastic]

Okay thanks to all of you. The motherboard is Asus Sabertooth 990FX/GEN3 R2.0 and the SSD is in the 6gb/s and the graphicscard is in the top slot. Could it be that the CPU is to hot? it is at 45-50 C when im gaming the CPU Fan is a Noctua NH-L12 low profile and Im only using the big fan/the top one because I could not get the tiny one in. The case is a CoolerMaster Storm Stryker - White and the front fans is faceing to the side. But will another GTX 770 and have it SLI make it better or do I still going to get that lag and just wasting my money? Or i maybe think i know what it is now, the ram? I have Corsair Vengeance 16GB DDR3 PC3-12800 1600MHz (CMZ16GX3M2A1600C10) (2x8GB) they are maybe to crappy?

your temperatures are good (quite low), the ram is the same as mine (its not the ram) , i have the cm storm trooper (basically the same case). Getting a second video card is 95% not going to solve your problem. How full is your ssd?

It is a 250 Gb and i have 139 gb left of 232 it stands

:/ well that eliminates that possibility...

So it is basically to much memory on the SSD?

No, Just making sure that the ssd is not too full. keep the ssd below 80% full, your ssd is fine

Yeah

 

[Zerratastic]

What kind of lagging? (input lag, frame lag, ping lag)? I honestly have gone through every possibility twice in my head... The absolute last thing i can imagine is that there is a program in the background that is eating up all your processing power.

It is definitely not ping lag because i have around 10 to 15 ping on the servers i play on bf3. And I dont think it is frame lag either because i have around 150 to 350 FPS on minecraft all the time (mostly on 220 fps). And I have installed NVIDIA GeForce Experience just because I wanted to check wat it was and i think that is running in the background because it is down in that field down to the right when you click on that arrow.

If you press "Ctrl + Alt + Delete" at the same time then click "Task Manager" It will bring up a window. Click the "Processes" tab, then click the "CPU" sub tab till the arrow faces down. That will show the programs running from highest usage to least. Tell me the top 5 at idle, and also play some bf3 and apb, tell me the top 5-7 during that.

chrome.exe is the top 5 ones but some times some thing like dwm.something and some times origin. But if i dont count the chrome ones it is conhost.exe , nvstreamsvc..... , egui.exe , chrome.exe and origin, but Im only having chrome and origin when i play Bf3 just because the battlelog and when i play CS, ABP or TF2 onley steam up obviusly. so chrome should not effekt the lag because I dont have it running when Im gaming, just on bf3. And I had Origin runing now because I did just play some bf3. But all of those had 00 on the cpu exept those that were coming and go had 01

 

[Zerratastic]

Should I go in to Task Maneger when I play bf3?