Gaming PC for $600-800 (First Build) Help needed

Brizzl

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Hey all. I plan on buying a gaming PC in the next 3 months.

Budget is 600-800; not trying to push that too hard. If there is something that is necessary and would go over budget I can pay for that. Not buying a monitor, keyboard, mouse or headset. Would prefer to buy from newegg. I live in North Carolina near Charlotte. Going to be using Windows 7 and playing games like Minecraft, DOTA 2, Battlefield, CoD and others.

I really have zero experience in computer hardware, though my dad is IT and can help build. I was wondering would it be worth it just to buy a prebuilt PC, like an Ironside or Alienware?

Thanks everyone,
Brennan
 

Lemonjelleaux

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Here's my gaming build from about a week ago. Runs very well, and I've been happy with it so far. Prices have shifted just a bit even in the time since I put it together, especially as far as GPU's go, but something like this should be a good place to start for you.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($117.98 @ Outlet PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 EXTREME4 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($61.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($108.99 @ Dell Small Business)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Thermaltake Commander MS/I Snow Edition (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($31.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $787.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-11 20:18 EDT-0400)
 

Brizzl

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Looks like a solid build. Is there any way I can bring the price down? I don't really want to hit the exact limit and I forgot to mention, I still need to buy Windows 7.. ahh
 

Lemonjelleaux

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CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($117.98 @ Outlet PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 EXTREME4 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 750GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.73 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Microcenter)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $704.63
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-11 21:04 EDT-0400)

Pick out a case and you're good to go. Need to knock off a few more bucks? Go for something like a 7870 instead of the 760.
 

Din65

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CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock B75M-DGS R2.0 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($54.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($64.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($255.66 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone PS08B (Black) MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: OCZ Fatal1ty 550W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($29.50 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $816.99
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-11 22:24 EDT-0400)

[strike]Sits right in the middle of your budget. Only thing I'd add would be a SSD but that would bring you over $800. SSDs save you a perceptible amount of time every single time you perform an action on your PC. I couldn't live without anymore.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock B75M-DGS R2.0 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($54.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($112.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($255.66 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone PS08B (Black) MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: OCZ Fatal1ty 550W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($29.50 @ Newegg)
Total: $718.10
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-11 21:03 EDT-0400)[/strike]
 

Brizzl

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Current build sits good in my price range.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 EXTREME4 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($61.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($194.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: Thermaltake Commander MS/I Snow Edition (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($31.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $710.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-11 21:37 EDT-0400)

Critique, please.
 

Brizzl

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Din, I noticed that you didn't include a CPU cooler. Are those unnecessary?

Also I did some research and I don't think I need 16gb of RAM. More like 8 sounds good.
 

Din65

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All mainstream CPUs are going to come with a cooler. You don't really need to upgrade unless you have a special need such as overclocking or restricted space. And I guess you could do with less ram. 8GB is enough for gaming agreed. [strike]I will update my post.[/strike] Post updated, drop the SSD to stay within the budget. After that I'd drop the gpu to a 660 ti. That would bring the system cost (including OS) back under $700.

Alt Build:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock B75M-DGS R2.0 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($54.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($198.70 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone PS08B (Black) MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: OCZ Fatal1ty 550W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($29.50 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $695.04
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-11 22:29 EDT-0400)
 

Brizzl

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Ok din. Thank you. This is probably one of my final builds and I'm really happy with it. Is there anyway to make this better?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 EXTREME4 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Thermaltake Commander MS/I Snow Edition (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($31.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($71.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $745.93
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-11 22:33 EDT-0400)

I found a way for me to not have to pay for the OS (some relatives said they'll buy it). I took all of suggestions and did what I thought would work the best. I think this will work very well. Thanks!
Brennan
 

Din65

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If you prefer to go AMD then that's the way to go. The i5-3350P just sits so nicely in the performance/price that I can't help but recommend it instead. If you are going to overclock (to bring the best out of the 6300 and the 970 board) you will want to throw in a better cooler. You were right about the ram, it was an oversight from another build. Get an SSD and 8GB instead, much snappier computer overall.
 

Brizzl

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I tried to switch out to the i-5 but the system didn't think it was compatible. Fine by me.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 EXTREME4 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Agility 3 60GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($259.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake Commander MS/I Snow Edition (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($31.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: OCZ ZT 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $701.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-11 23:11 EDT-0400)

Man, this is fun, isn't it?
 

Din65

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AMD/Intel CPUs are different sockets. That means they won't fit in each other's motherboards. Also the one minor thing, I've always been told to buy memory in multiples of the channels (2 for all the cpus you are looking at). In truth I don't know if that is necessary.
 

Brizzl

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Final build:
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CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 EXTREME4 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Blu 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($58.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Agility 3 60GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($259.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake Commander MS/I Snow Edition (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($31.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: OCZ ZT 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $737.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-12 12:50 EDT-0400)

Thank you guys so much for the help! I can tell this will be an awesome build.
 

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Hey man I will probably be going with the 16 gb build, but do you know of an i7 processor that would work with this build and don't they require an optical drive?

 

Din65

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Go for this instead. This particular Xeon is an Ivy Bridge i7-p essentially (locked multiplier, no iGPU) for a lot cheaper than even the lowest clocked Sandy Bridge i7. Optical drive only if you need it. I just install from USB drives these days, haven't used a disk for years.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V2 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($64.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Gaming Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($110.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($259.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Silverstone PS08B (Black) MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($34.90 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: OCZ Fatal1ty 550W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($29.50 @ Newegg)
Total: $759.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-17 05:19 EDT-0400)
 

Aspiring

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Man you do not realize how happy you just made me. Thank you so much and have a great day/night depending where you are at the moment :)

EDIT: Would the Thermaltake Commander MS/I Snow Edition case be able to fit all these parts in it and would it be compatible with the build as well? (Total noob here sorry to be a bother) It's slightly cheaper than the one you recommended and I only ask because if I can be frank it looks quite badass in my opinion lol.

The case:http://pcpartpicker.com/part/thermaltake-case-vn40006w2n

 

Din65

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Unless you need a certain feature from a case, just go with whatever you like. I just happen to trust Silverstone but a majority of cases just aren't going to hinder performance at all, especially if you are running stock speeds.
 

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Both of the recommended cases are perfectly adequate in terms of features. Things to consider (besides looks) in choosing a case:

- Size: The Silverstone is a micro-ATX case, while the Thermaltake is full ATX. The Thermaltake is 5 inches taller, 1 inch deeper, 1.4 inches wider, and 2.3 pounds heavier than the Silverstone.

- Quality: Cheap cases are never amazing quality, but some are better than others. I personally have sworn never to buy anything made by Thermaltake ever again after a horrible experience with one of their budget cases (and then discovering that practically everyone who owned that case had the same issue, and the case had been in production for several years without changes). Your mileage may vary.

Of the sub-$50 micro-ATX cases I've been looking at lately, the Silverstone PS08 seems to be the best-made and least likely to explode. I think there are several $50ish ATX cases that beat it, but nothing under $40.

- Builder-friendliness: If you're not an experienced builder, it helps a lot to have a case that makes things easy for you. You're unfortunately not in the price range of the really easy cases, but there's better and worse even in low-end cases. Now, ease of building is *not* one of Silverstone's strong points (to say the least), so the PS08 is probably not your best choice on this point. The Thermaltake should be pretty easy as long as parts don't start snapping off or something.

For cases that balance quality and builder-friendliness on a budget, take a look at this lineup: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=Property&Subcategory=7&Description=&Type=&N=100007583&IsNodeId=1&IsPowerSearch=1&srchInDesc=&MinPrice=30&MaxPrice=60&Manufactory=1516&Manufactory=14581&Manufactory=72745&Manufactory=1333&Manufactory=1459&Manufactory=2120&PropertyCodeValue=548%3A8478&PropertyCodeValue=548%3A8288&PropertyCodeValue=548%3A8292&PropertyCodeValue=548%3A8289&PropertyCodeValue=548%3A8290&PropertyCodeValue=548%3A8287&PropertyCodeValue=548%3A8291&PropertyCodeValue=562%3A289196&PropertyCodeValue=562%3A289194&PropertyCodeValue=562%3A289195&PropertyCodeValue=562%3A292971&PropertyCodeValue=562%3A289189&PropertyCodeValue=562%3A289192&PropertyCodeValue=562%3A289193&PropertyCodeValue=562%3A289190

Pretty much everything on that list should be both well-made and fairly easy to build in. I'm a particular fan of the NZXT Source 210 for balancing both of those factors on a budget. And it comes in white - I think it looks pretty slick. The Source 220 and Merc Alpha are at least equally good, but they're both pretty standard black boxes. All of those are unfortunately full ATX cases...the only cheap micro-ATX I'd recommend to a new builder is the Fractal Design Core 1000, and I'm not 100% on that.

Also keep in mind that the price you're looking at on the Thermaltake is from Microcenter, which doesn't sell online and only exists in limited locations. If you aren't near a Microcenter, the Thermaltake will run you in the $45+ range.
 

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Thanks a ton for all of that I could have gone down a very bad road had you not haha, and I am fortunate enough to live like 30-40 minutes from a Microcenter :) so although I may not pick up a case from there it's just a good thing to have for parts here and there. Thanks again for the list
 

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CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($117.96 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI 990FXA-GD65V2 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($132.97 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (4 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($99.12 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card ($199.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair Vengeance C70 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $776.99
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-30 02:46 EST-0500)