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Report: AMD's Volcanic Islands to be Called Radeon R-200

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September 6, 2013 7:10:17 PM

Sure would be nice if both AMD and Nvidia would find a naming scheme they like and stick to it. It's getting confusing when they use each others past model names for new cards!
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September 6, 2013 7:12:19 PM

This sound reasonable as there are only two digits left to mark new series (8xxx-9xxx)
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September 6, 2013 7:18:06 PM

Don't forget they both have gone through the 9xxx naming before.
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September 6, 2013 7:24:35 PM

Don't forget they both have gone through the 9xxx naming before.
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September 6, 2013 7:27:11 PM

I was kind of looking forward to the 4' long Radeon 39990.
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a b U Graphics card
September 6, 2013 7:30:21 PM

Oh, man... There goes my "it's over 9000" joke 8(

WELL, THANK YOU AMD.

Cheers!
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September 6, 2013 7:38:22 PM

They could just remove the R9/R8, since model numbers 270-390 seems self-explanatory.
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September 6, 2013 7:40:08 PM

A prefix comes before the root word/term. A suffix comes after. The 9 is a suffix.

I'm not sure I like the new convention. Too similar to nVidia's, and yet complicated in its own right.
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September 6, 2013 7:40:58 PM

I Don't like this new naming scheme, how will I know if this is the current generation or a previous generation model?
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September 6, 2013 7:46:35 PM

016ive said:
This sound reasonable as there are only two digits left to mark new series (8xxx-9xxx)


They already had popular Radeon 8000 and 9000 series cards. They've been off the shelf for more than a decade but I can see why they would want to avoid confusion.

Oddly enough, the internal codename for the Radeon 8000 and 9000 series GPUs made from 2001 to 2003 was "R200". It looks to me like they've decided to go full circle on the naming conventions.
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September 6, 2013 7:53:41 PM

I will definitely buy it if they call it the Arrrrrgh -390.

I wonder what would happen if they use a sane naming convention like G1M9, for Generation 1, Model 9
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September 6, 2013 8:12:33 PM

This is more confusing than before...
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September 6, 2013 8:15:24 PM

Why cant they just use the 9000 series first b4 deciding to change the name.

Besides why start @ 200? not 100?
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a b U Graphics card
September 6, 2013 8:41:40 PM

Why not start with R8/9-1XX and go from there for future naming headroom?
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September 6, 2013 8:43:22 PM

I think the RADEON HD name was good marketing, now it becomes quite confusing.
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September 6, 2013 8:50:33 PM

A few generations ago I ran a Radeon 7000 video card in my main machine. A few months ago I upgraded my machine to a Radeon 7790. Unless they radically change things I might be getting another Radeon 7xxx series video card in another 10 years.
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a b U Graphics card
September 6, 2013 9:32:58 PM

How about this for a naming scheme? Nouns for the card's targeted market segment which is preceded by adjectives for its performance within its segment.
Enthusiast: Behemoth
Mainstream: Brute
Entry: Fiend
And within the segment are adjectives such as Agile, Titanic, Turbulent. So when MSi makes a card, they would have a HAWK Titanic Behemoth or an Agile Fiend Power Edition. I know it's a mouthful but AMD's proposed naming scheme is already is, so I don't really care. :) )
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a b U Graphics card
September 6, 2013 9:35:15 PM

How about this for a naming scheme? Nouns for the card's targeted market segment which is preceded by adjectives for its performance within its segment.
Enthusiast: Behemoth
Mainstream: Brute
Entry: Fiend
And within the segment are adjectives such as Agile, Titanic, Turbulent. So when MSi makes a card, they would have a HAWK Titanic Behemoth or an Agile Fiend Power Edition. I know it's a mouthful but AMD's proposed naming scheme is already is, so I don't really care. :) )
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a b U Graphics card
September 6, 2013 9:36:50 PM

How about this for a naming scheme? Nouns for the card's targeted market segment which is preceded by adjectives for its performance within its segment.
Enthusiast: Behemoth
Mainstream: Brute
Entry: Fiend
And within the segment are adjectives such as Agile, Titanic, Turbulent. So when MSi makes a card, they would have a HAWK Titanic Behemoth or an Agile Fiend Power Edition. I know it's a mouthful but AMD's proposed naming scheme is already is, so I don't really care. :) )
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September 6, 2013 9:40:41 PM

I saw that the Volcanic Islands wikipedia page had been updated with this naming scheme a few days ago, with no source, makes me wonder if this rumor actually originated from some troll messing with wikipedia.

I guess this naming scheme is ok, but it does seem kind of complicated compared to the previous naming scheme. I can't wait for the new cards though, I really hope that AMD does a good job on price/performance, and I really hope they go in all guns blazing with some major Fall game releases added to the Never Settle bundle.
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a b U Graphics card
September 6, 2013 10:07:33 PM

Confusing. I mean why don't just stick with AMD Radeon HD9xxx series, if everybody is already used to it since the ATI Radeon HD3xxx serires (some even before). Why change something that is alright? Don't fix what is not even broken.
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a b U Graphics card
September 6, 2013 10:44:32 PM

But I wanted an HD 9990 :( 
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September 6, 2013 11:53:59 PM

If I wait just a bit longer with the upgrade I will skip the entire HD family, as I currently have X1650. I personally think the prediction table is wrong - if such dense numbering is chosen - that will mean that interim products(say some cards with 30 at the end) wont have proper number, or if the marketing already know about the existence of such card - they should reserve space for it , which will drive speculation like crazy. I feel there will be multiple cards with 270 and 250 numbering , and the prefix will be used to separate them in performance groups(otherwise the prefix will serve no purpose)
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a b U Graphics card
September 7, 2013 12:14:39 AM

r9 399 get ready
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September 7, 2013 12:19:33 AM

It is right to drop "HD", it will no longer identified them with pathetic Intel HD graphics.

Although AMD got the "HD" naming ahead of Intel, Intel hijack it and also named their pathetic graphics "HD".
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September 7, 2013 12:26:06 AM

Hmmm, I wonder, couldn't it also be a hommage to the arcade classic R-type? (Anyone remember that game:-) ?) The main ship was also called R9 but there were also R8's, R7's and R6's. Wouldn't be the first time AMD used a name that also has a connection to the arcade. So was the AM series also an advanced type of arcadeboard from Sega. Hmmm.
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September 7, 2013 12:48:27 AM

I truly could not care about the name, all I want is a reasonable price and for it to pump pixels - call it the SH1T as long as we get great performance
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a b U Graphics card
September 7, 2013 1:00:26 AM

Not bad. Makes sense. After all, there are only so many number combinations you can use without making it ridiculous.
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September 7, 2013 1:24:36 AM

Why not go with a year based naming scheme, 2013: 97, 2014: 85
and so on.
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a b U Graphics card
September 7, 2013 2:30:04 AM

omiting "0" from current naming scheme sounds better
example, instead of hd7970, they can have hd797,

this R9-xxx thing is confusing
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September 7, 2013 5:25:25 AM

alphabetic letter + two digit model number. You are set With naming scheme for 50 years amd.
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a b U Graphics card
September 7, 2013 8:46:57 AM

phatboe said:
I Don't like this new naming scheme, how will I know if this is the current generation or a previous generation model?


Are you being serious? It's the same as Intel's Core i naming scheme...
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a b U Graphics card
September 7, 2013 8:49:54 AM

This new naming is confusing, they should have just name it
R100 = mid range
R200 = mid/high end
R300 = high end
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September 7, 2013 9:21:51 AM

Let's face it; there is not a "perfect" naming scheme. Nouns get stale and are much more easily confused over time compared to noun/number combinations. But over time number sequences reach a point where they become too lengthy and lose their meaning or significance. The closest to a permanent solution would be to add an actual identifier for the year (Radeon 7000-2013), but everyone will start calling it shorthand anyway... no perfect answer.
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September 7, 2013 10:27:41 AM

AMD's naming scheme is too confusing. I'm sticking to my Nvidia GTX 670. "6th" generation, "70" power.
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September 7, 2013 10:41:36 AM

lp231 said:
This new naming is confusing, they should have just name it
R100 = mid range
R200 = mid/high end
R300 = high end


Ok, well what about the generation after this one? Are you going to name it the
R400=midrange
R500=mid/highend
R600=highend
???

So we get a total of 3 generations before we hit the 9xx issue again? It's just like Soda 88 said, this is exactly the same as the Intel naming scheme. i3=R7, i5=R8, i7=R9............2700k=290, 3770k=390, 4770k=490... and so on. The only difference is that AMD has more products per R# than Intel has per i#

With that said, I do think in AMD's case that the R# is a bit redundant. Just by looking at numbers 270,275,280,285,290 we can easily determine what is the highend, mid range, and low end. So maybe an R290, R285... would be a cleaner naming scheme. Either way, they are going to look like they stole Intel's or NVidia's naming style. (I do realize ATi used the R200 style in the past as well, but that was an internal name)

Why not just stick with the current naming config and replace the HD with R and start back at the R2970?
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September 7, 2013 11:06:13 AM

Similar to 1st gen Core CPUs: i3 xxx, i5 xxx, i7 xxx
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September 7, 2013 12:21:22 PM

I have no idea what power cards are going to hold now.....
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September 7, 2013 1:03:25 PM

Well for normal user this may be easier. If you want to get the best buy r9, in the upper middle range r8 and middle range r7, and low end r6 (or even smaller) . I personally find it guite easy. Easier than saying if the 8770 is better or worse than 7850? Well we all know that the later is better even it has lower total number, but for mrs Smith it may be easier to remember that r9 is allways better than r8 and so on...
I personally would like to have some thing to separete one and multi core chips apart... It seems to be that x90 series is going to be multi GPU and x85 the best single GPU card, but that is not so easy to to normal mr. Smith... Otherwise this is much easier that previous naming sheme... until everything goes wrong and we will see several generation of GPU cores in the same production series...

Lets see...
r9-285 vs r9-385 vs r8-375: it is easy to tell them apart. First two are the best you can get (for single GPU). The one in the midle is the new generation same as the last (3xx). But the last is only from the middle range series, so not as poverfull as the first one and one in the middle. So if they don't mess up, this is easier than the old system!
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September 7, 2013 1:03:54 PM

Should I get a Geforce 290 or a Radeon 290? I need to thing about it.
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a b U Graphics card
September 7, 2013 2:28:02 PM

universal remonster said:
lp231 said:
This new naming is confusing, they should have just name it
R100 = mid range
R200 = mid/high end
R300 = high end


Ok, well what about the generation after this one? Are you going to name it the
R400=midrange
R500=mid/highend
R600=highend
???

They can just go R125, R127, R129
1st # = Class
2nd # = Generation
3rd # = Good, Better, Best
AMD is copying Intel's numbering, but the way they do it, makes it difficult for each card to stand out from one another.
Suppose this new naming is out and you're planning to get a AMD graphic card.
We have AMD R8 275 and AMD R9 280, price difference is $150 (not actual price difference). We know R9 is better than R8, but what is the difference between 275 and 280? Is the performance of 280 really worth the extra $150 or should we just save the $150 and just get the 275?
Intel's numbering makes sense because it's backed up by the number of cores/HT and clock speed.
AMD on the other hand don't have cores and clock speed to back theirs up.

@ doct3rphil
Intel 1st gen core cpus are, Core i3 500 Core i5 600 and Core i7 800. Their numbering are far apart, making it easier to see Core i7 is better than Core i3.
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September 7, 2013 2:29:08 PM

aggroboy said:
They could just remove the R9/R8, since model numbers 270-390 seems self-explanatory.


the R9/R8 seem to be the level of card that it is. I suspect R9 = high end, R8 = Mid Range, etc. the 2xx/3xx seems to be the gen. it makes sense, but I also understand how people will be confused by this. its like people saying "im going to wait to buy the new r8/r9 series cards" instead of saying "Im going to wait to buy the new 78xx/79xx".
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September 7, 2013 4:13:37 PM

Pinhedd said:
016ive said:
This sound reasonable as there are only two digits left to mark new series (8xxx-9xxx)


They already had popular Radeon 8000 and 9000 series cards. They've been off the shelf for more than a decade but I can see why they would want to avoid confusion.

Oddly enough, the internal codename for the Radeon 8000 and 9000 series GPUs made from 2001 to 2003 was "R200". It looks to me like they've decided to go full circle on the naming conventions.


Thanks,I didn't know that.I'm too young to know what AMD had more than a decade ago :) 
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a b U Graphics card
September 7, 2013 7:49:28 PM

Why don't they just go: Big, medium, small?
lol
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September 7, 2013 8:54:00 PM

I can't wait for the future 4xx cards. R9-420 specifically.
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September 7, 2013 10:41:32 PM

FINALLY. Someone is paying attention to what the consumer demands! Listen up NVidia, your naming schemes are the WORST!
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a b U Graphics card
September 8, 2013 6:58:33 AM

my god, you want to make it simple? name it 1, 2, 3, etc where the high the number the more powerful the card. ALWAYS. subchanges can 2.5 or 2.75, but the bigger the number the more powerful the card. Is it really so hard?
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