Thoughts of New Build/Comments and If enough Power

[bigmike035]

Looking for some feedback and maybe suggestions towards a new build. Mainly for gaming, but also use some CAD and rendering/editing. Budget is around $1500-2000, no need for mouse/keyboard (have Logitech gaming components); OS I have (win 7 x64), have 1 EVGA GTX 760 SC (Looking to SLI them), possibly a new monitor (Currently Samsung 22" 2ms)

I live in Texas, so it can get pretty hot during the summer. Looking to avoid water cooling types but open for suggestions/thoughts. Overclocking, eventually yes, nothing to extreme more then likely but will boost it up there.

Also, is the 850W Seasonic enough to power this system?

CPU: i5 4670k or i7 4770k
CPU COOLER: Noctua NH-D14 120mm & 140mm SSO CPU Cooler
MB: ASUS MAXIMUS VI HERO LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-1866C9D-16GXM
GPU: GTX 760 SC in SLI (Own 1 already)
PSU: SeaSonic X Series X-850 (SS-850KM3 Active PFC F3) 850W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS 12V v2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD
SSD: SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD256BW 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
HDD: Seagate Barracuda ST2000DM001 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
OPTICAL: ASUS DVD Burner Black SATA Model DRW-24B3ST/BLK/G/AS
CASE:Rosewill BLACKHAWK-ULTRA Gaming Super Tower Computer Case, support up to HPTX, come with Eight Fans,Top HDD docking
FAN CNTLR: NZXT Sentry-2 5.25" Touch Screen Fan Controller
Extra Fans: COOLER MASTER R4-BMBS-20PK-R0 Blade Master 120mm Case Fan (Mount on the Side to add more air flow)
Roughly $1700 (All priced from newegg; will look at amazon/directron for price comparisons when buying)

Thoughts? Different routes? Thanks

 

[James Godsil]

By looking at the power recommendation for the GTX 760 off of the Nvidia website, it says that you need at least a 500W PSU. You only have 850, so you are really pushing it. I would suggest looking at a 1000W PSU. There are plenty out there that will fit your needs, and Seasonic is a good brand to start with. The rest of the build looks fine. I know CAD and rendering may take a lot of RAM, so don't be surprised if you need to get more RAM. Hope this helps

 

[bigmike035]

By looking at the power recommendation for the GTX 760 off of the Nvidia website, it says that you need at least a 500W PSU. You only have 850, so you are really pushing it. I would suggest looking at a 1000W PSU. There are plenty out there that will fit your needs, and Seasonic is a good brand to start with. The rest of the build looks fine. I know CAD and rendering may take a lot of RAM, so don't be surprised if you need to get more RAM. Hope this helps

I see seasonic has a 1050 and 1250W, you think the 1050 is plenty or be safe and go with the 1250?

 

[James Godsil]

By looking at the power recommendation for the GTX 760 off of the Nvidia website, it says that you need at least a 500W PSU. You only have 850, so you are really pushing it. I would suggest looking at a 1000W PSU. There are plenty out there that will fit your needs, and Seasonic is a good brand to start with. The rest of the build looks fine. I know CAD and rendering may take a lot of RAM, so don't be surprised if you need to get more RAM. Hope this helps

I see seasonic has a 1050 and 1250W, you think the 1050 is plenty or be safe and go with the 1250?

I would get the 1250W if it is not too much more expensive. With the 1250W, you will have enough room for some minor upgrades along the way. And it's always better to have more power than less.

 

[AMD Radeon]

@james, you are dead wrong

gtx 760 itself consumes under 200W. so dont use logic 2x 500W =1000W

even TX 750 V2 bronze can crossfire 2x 7970 GHZ edition....
corsair AX750 is more than enough.... 850W is plenty

 

[James Godsil]

@james, you are dead wrong

gtx 760 itself consumes under 200W. so dont use logic 2x 500W =1000W

even TX 750 V2 bronze can crossfire 2x 7970 GHZ edition....
corsair AX750 is more than enough.... 850W is plenty

An 850W would be close because of all the extra stuff that he has. I guess you are right that a true 1000W PSU is somewhat overkill, but I don't think that a 750W could run an SLI system with all the add-ons that he has. OP: Your 850W PSU should work, although don't expect to be able to upgrade later to some beefier graphics cards.

 

[bigmike035]

I did see the testing of the GTX 760 SC was about 250-350W fully loaded (Coming from review sites, seems to differ per site) So if we just say 300W, that would be about ~600W (prob less tho), CPU is roughly 90W which puts around 700W (worst case 775W) but prob less, everything else is pretty minimal, I figured a 850W would be good, I did think about the 1050W PSU just to be on the safe side (for overclocking purposes, more system stability)

I see Nvidia website says 170W total draw. So I have no clue how these review sites are doing it (most of them are testing on a overclocked platform tho)

 

[AMD Radeon]

^ what addons?

AX 850 can run gtx 770 in SLI
with 8 HDD
and
20+ fans

and still has plenty room left

 

[James Godsil]

I did see the testing of the GTX 760 SC was about 250-350W fully loaded (Coming from review sites, seems to differ per site) So if we just say 300W, that would be about ~600W (prob less tho), CPU is roughly 90W which puts around 700W (worst case 775W) but prob less, everything else is pretty minimal, I figured a 850W would be good, I did think about the 1050W PSU just to be on the safe side (for overclocking purposes, more system stability)

I see Nvidia website says 170W total draw. So I have no clue how these review sites are doing it (most of them are testing on a overclocked platform tho)

Exactly. A 1050W PSU will allow you to make some upgrades in 2 -3 years when you want to get top of the line hardware. Hope this has all helped.

 

[p4nz3rm4d]

The only way those cards will draw more than 200w each is if they are overclocked. Thats 400w + ±130w for everything else. Realistically, you will be looking at 500-550w. Get the 850, but you could go lower - not that you should for upgradability reasons. If you are using CAD, i would highly suggest the i7. Dont stress with the cooling as 8 fans are enough as it stands.

 

[bigmike035]

The only way those cards will draw more than 200w each is if they are overclocked. Thats 400w + ±130w for everything else. Realistically, you will be looking at 500-550w. Get the 850, but you could go lower - not that you should for upgradability reasons. If you are using CAD, i would highly suggest the i7. Dont stress with the cooling as 8 fans are enough as it stands.

That makes sense, would it be worth going to a 750W or stick with a 850W just in case, more power is never a bad thing. Yea I hoping with this case and maybe some extra fans, the nothca-14D will be a good choice and keep it cooler as I hear haswell runs kinda hot and i know HT adds a few extra C to the CPU

 

[James Godsil]

The only way those cards will draw more than 200w each is if they are overclocked. Thats 400w + ±130w for everything else. Realistically, you will be looking at 500-550w. Get the 850, but you could go lower - not that you should for upgradability reasons. If you are using CAD, i would highly suggest the i7. Dont stress with the cooling as 8 fans are enough as it stands.

OP said that he will overclock in the future, so there will be OC'ing involved. Also if he does go with the i7, [strike]then you will want a 1050W PSU[/strike]. Do not forget that the GPU's are EVGA GTX 760 SC, so they are overclocked to start with.

I would get the 850W then. Just be careful on the overclocking then.

 

[bigmike035]

So would a 850W possibly compromise a decent overclock? I aint looking for a 4.5+ clock, maybe just boost the multiplier by a few to achieve a ~3.7/8/9 stock clock then boost to 4.2/3/4. Test the waters on that and maybe get into moving the blck up pending on how the chip handles that

 

[p4nz3rm4d]

I really doubt you will ever max out your sli setup, as it is actually quite powerful, but you can definitely get away with a 750w. Think of all the cash you can put towards upgrades if you dont go for the excessive psu!
Your'e right in saying that there is no such thing as too mush, but it can be quite wasteful.
GPUs age far quicker than CPUs, so i doubt you will ever find overclocking them useful, especially as they are sli. When the time comes, simply buy a new upgraded one. Overclocking CPUs to squeeze every bit of usefullness out of them, however, is common practice. That is, what im guessing, he was referring to.

 

[James Godsil]

I say for a final solution, just stick with the 850W. By the time you upgrade, you will most likely have enough money to get new PSU if you need it. Mild overclocking won't push you past 850W, so you should be perfectly fine with it.