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a b ) Power supply
July 3, 2014 1:02:10 PM

Could you use a different size or colour font for the 'Tier. . .' ?
It views as one long list currently.
Thanks.
a b ) Power supply
July 3, 2014 3:08:34 PM

tea urchin said:
Could you use a different size or colour font for the 'Tier. . .' ?
It views as one long list currently.
Thanks.


Since the functionality is now working for me, i'll get right on it.
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a c 2488 ) Power supply
July 10, 2014 9:53:30 PM

It's a tier one for sure.
a b ) Power supply
July 11, 2014 12:26:13 AM

Upped to tier one.
July 11, 2014 6:47:44 AM

Which is best from:

Corsair RM 650W Fully Modular 80+ Gold Power Supply
or
Coolermaster VS-Series 650W Semi Modular 80+ Gold Power Supply

For a build with:
. Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
. Asus Z97-PRO(Wi-Fi ac) ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
. Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
a b ) Power supply
July 11, 2014 10:50:06 AM

Nuklearpuppy said:
Which is best from:

Corsair RM 650W Fully Modular 80+ Gold Power Supply
or
Coolermaster VS-Series 650W Semi Modular 80+ Gold Power Supply

For a build with:
. Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
. Asus Z97-PRO(Wi-Fi ac) ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
. Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory


Either one is great. The Corsair one is just as silent as the Cooler Master model.
a b ) Power supply
July 11, 2014 10:50:07 AM

Nuklearpuppy said:
Which is best from:

Corsair RM 650W Fully Modular 80+ Gold Power Supply
or
Coolermaster VS-Series 650W Semi Modular 80+ Gold Power Supply

For a build with:
. Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
. Asus Z97-PRO(Wi-Fi ac) ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
. Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory


Either one is great. The Corsair one is just as silent as the Cooler Master model.
a c 1218 ) Power supply
July 11, 2014 1:37:40 PM

Nuklearpuppy said:
Which is best from:

Corsair RM 650W Fully Modular 80+ Gold Power Supply
or
Coolermaster VS-Series 650W Semi Modular 80+ Gold Power Supply

For a build with:
. Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
. Asus Z97-PRO(Wi-Fi ac) ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
. Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory


The Cooler Master V650 Semi-Modular (RS-650-AMAA-G1) has tighter voltage regulation, better electrical noise and ripple suppression, better hold-up time than the Corsair RM650.
July 15, 2014 4:49:45 AM

this psu is missing from ur tier list
thermaltake smart se 630w psu!
a b ) Power supply
July 15, 2014 4:53:21 AM

gamingmaniac said:
this psu is missing from ur tier list
thermaltake smart se 630w psu!


There's no review yet. Therefore I cannot confirm if its a good unit, an average unit or a "get away from it" unit.
a b ) Power supply
July 17, 2014 11:55:57 PM

They're moved.
July 19, 2014 6:44:45 AM

I love this thread. it is a great resource. However I don't like the prices of the Tier one units. Could you do something about that? :D 
a b ) Power supply
July 19, 2014 6:55:50 AM

DHFF said:
I love this thread. it is a great resource. However I don't like the prices of the Tier one units. Could you do something about that? :D 


Tier 2 Class A. There almost as good as the Tier 1 units at lower prices.
July 19, 2014 7:20:52 AM

I was surprised to find the Kingwin Lazer Platinum as a Tier one. I have had bad luck with other Kingwin products. Are their power supplies really that reliable?? Its just inside my budget and I was already looking at a Corsair CSM Series CS650M 650W. Would the Kingwin be that much better?
a c 1218 ) Power supply
July 19, 2014 10:03:11 AM

DHFF said:
I was surprised to find the Kingwin Lazer Platinum as a Tier one. I have had bad luck with other Kingwin products. Are their power supplies really that reliable?? Its just inside my budget and I was already looking at a Corsair CSM Series CS650M 650W. Would the Kingwin be that much better?


Which Kingwin PSU model specifically?
July 19, 2014 10:32:05 AM

KINGWIN Lazer Platinum Series LZP-550 550W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

that is the one I was looking at. the list here says all Platinum Kingwins are Tier one. my experience with the company has been with fans and hard drive docks. both were extremely poor quality.
a c 273 ) Power supply
July 19, 2014 11:09:49 AM

DHFF said:
KINGWIN Lazer Platinum Series LZP-550 550W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

that is the one I was looking at. the list here says all Platinum Kingwins are Tier one. my experience with the company has been with fans and hard drive docks. both were extremely poor quality.


They don't actually make power supplies they have them made to their specs. They use Super Flower as their OEM exclusively and that is generally a good thing. The Lazer Platinum 550 you are looking at is an excellent unit. 9/10 from jonnyguru overall and the most important part of the scoring is performance where it scores a 10/10.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

At $99 it's a unit worth considering for sure.
July 19, 2014 11:21:41 AM

thanks for the info. I will put it on my short list. :) 
a c 1218 ) Power supply
July 19, 2014 12:29:18 PM

DHFF said:
KINGWIN Lazer Platinum Series LZP-550 550W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

that is the one I was looking at. the list here says all Platinum Kingwins are Tier one. my experience with the company has been with fans and hard drive docks. both were extremely poor quality.


It's exactly the same as the Super Flower Golden King 550W (SF-550P14PE) on which it is based:

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
a c 273 ) Power supply
July 19, 2014 1:53:29 PM

DHFF said:
thanks for the info. I will put it on my short list. :) 


If you are in the US and looking for a ~550w unit for a good price then this Seasonic G 550w for $79 is the best deal I see. Saves you $20.

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=PS-SSR550R&c=C...

The G series is supposed to be a step down from the X series but in reality it's every bit as good with maybe a slightly lower end fan. Either way it gets a 9.2/10 from jonnyguru and that might have been a fluke since the 650w version scored a 9.8/10.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

650w review.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
July 19, 2014 2:45:32 PM

yes thank you. I was looking at the Seasonic G earlier, I have that unit along with the Kingwin and a few others from the Tier One and Two lists sorted on my New Egg wish list. I really appreciate all the information and endorsements.
July 22, 2014 11:57:48 PM

Hello. For an fx4300 and an hd7770, full specs in signature. Upgrading to an r9 280 or maxwell series gtx 860 later on. I am slowly upgrading and working towards a high end pc. For perspective I started with onboard graphics on a core 2 duo and a foxconn mobo. Right now have a cx430.

Which is best?

http://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-S12II-520-BRONZE-SS-520G...

http://www.amazon.com/XFX-ATX-550-Power-Supply/dp/B004R...

http://www.amazon.com/Antec-Neo-Echo-ATX12V-620-Watt/dp...
a c 152 ) Power supply
July 23, 2014 7:14:48 AM

All three are made by Seasonic and good quality. I'd pick the one with the best deal.
a c 2488 ) Power supply
July 24, 2014 6:16:57 AM

It's made by HEC who produce poor power supplies.

a b ) Power supply
July 24, 2014 2:11:25 PM

HEC is like Channel Well. They specialize in cost cutting mass production.
a c 2488 ) Power supply
July 24, 2014 2:19:49 PM

Here it is Damric: P2 1000w installed.

a c 1218 ) Power supply
July 24, 2014 2:37:00 PM

damric said:
HEC is like Channel Well. They specialize in cost cutting mass production.


HEC is not like CWT (Channel Well Technology). HEC's PSU designs are generally inferior resulting in poorer electrical performance and hence the reputation that it has earned.

CWT has some excellent PSU designs on their high end series models. Corsair is going to be using CWT on their new HXi Series 80 PLUS PLATINUM models.

HEC/Cougar doesn't have any 80 PLUS PLATINUM models.
a c 2488 ) Power supply
July 24, 2014 2:38:52 PM

HEC= Garbage , better used as a paperweight.
July 24, 2014 3:03:33 PM

Blackbird, you have to tell me...how did you ever manage to convince that pilot to park his jumbo jet inside you case? :D 
a c 2488 ) Power supply
July 24, 2014 3:09:09 PM

Bribes.
a b ) Power supply
July 24, 2014 11:29:54 PM

ko888 said:
damric said:
HEC is like Channel Well. They specialize in cost cutting mass production.


HEC is not like CWT (Channel Well Technology). HEC's PSU designs are generally inferior resulting in poorer electrical performance and hence the reputation that it has earned.

CWT has some excellent PSU designs on their high end series models. Corsair is going to be using CWT on their new HXi Series 80 PLUS PLATINUM models.

HEC/Cougar doesn't have any 80 PLUS PLATINUM models.


I've yet to see a high end CWT unit yet. You may be right, but all I have seen is junkers. I gave them the benefit of the doubt when I bought a CTW made OCZ 700W PSU that had a curiously large rebate. Ripple filtration was inferior and it ran hot. It bypassed my case flow and still exhausted enormous amount of heat when any load was put on the GPU. Running hot like that is a sign of cheap inductors.

I'd rate ATNG much higher than CWT for budget PSUs.
a b ) Power supply
July 24, 2014 11:30:53 PM

SR-71 Blackbird said:
Here it is Damric: P2 1000w installed.



My SF Golden Green is jealous.

July 25, 2014 5:26:24 AM

Confused how the Antec HGC PSUs are in tier two while the Seasonic M12II they're based on is in tier one.

This is a quote from someone I know.
a c 1218 ) Power supply
July 25, 2014 9:09:03 AM

Taafe said:
Confused how the Antec HGC PSUs are in tier two while the Seasonic M12II they're based on is in tier one.

This is a quote from someone I know.


The Antec HCG-400, HCG-520 and HCG-620, that are made by Seasonic, are discontinued models. The Antec HCG-750 and HCG-900, that are made by Delta Electronics, are still available.
July 25, 2014 5:39:28 PM

I have a question... I have a Corsair CS450 which is tier three...


"Corsair
CS series (High inrush current and +12V ripple levels, only on high levels of load)"

That freaks me out. I have a pretty low wattage system with an i3 and an R9 270 coming in the mail. Is this anything I should worry about?

Will this "High Inrush Current" damage my components?

Thank you!
July 25, 2014 6:21:27 PM

@Zircoben: I have lots of personal experience with this model, I use it in many of the systems I have built, probably about 12 currently in use with many iffernt builds an configurations. some very low powered and none of them have ever had an issue.
July 25, 2014 6:52:42 PM

DHFF said:
@Zircoben: I have lots of personal experience with this model, I use it in many of the systems I have built, probably about 12 currently in use with many different builds an configurations. some very low powered and none of them have ever had an issue.


Cool, thank you! That "Inrush Current" thing sounds scary, but I guess it's okay!

a c 1218 ) Power supply
July 25, 2014 7:15:50 PM

Inrush current, or switch-on surge, refers to the maximum instantaneous input-current drawn by an electrical device when it is first turned on. Because of the charging current of the APFC capacitor(s), PSUs produce a large inrush-current right as they are turned on. If the inrush current is large enough it can cause the tripping of circuit breakers and fuses and may also damage switches, relays, and bridge rectifiers; as a result, the lower the inrush current of a PSU, right as it is turned on, the better.
July 25, 2014 8:20:35 PM

ko888 said:
Inrush current, or switch-on surge, refers to the maximum instantaneous input-current drawn by an electrical device when it is first turned on. Because of the charging current of the APFC capacitor(s), PSUs produce a large inrush-current right as they are turned on. If the inrush current is large enough it can cause the tripping of circuit breakers and fuses and may also damage switches, relays, and bridge rectifiers; as a result, the lower the inrush current of a PSU, right as it is turned on, the better.


Awesome, thank you for that explanation. Is there any way I can monitor this on my power supply to see if it is getting anywhere that could damage my components?
a c 1218 ) Power supply
July 25, 2014 9:30:19 PM

Zircoben said:
Awesome, thank you for that explanation. Is there any way I can monitor this on my power supply to see if it is getting anywhere that could damage my components?


Do you have an oscilloscope?
July 25, 2014 10:10:54 PM

ko888 said:
Zircoben said:
Awesome, thank you for that explanation. Is there any way I can monitor this on my power supply to see if it is getting anywhere that could damage my components?


Do you have an oscilloscope?


No, and crap, those are expensive.

But in general, do I have anything I should worry about? I will never go above 50% of the power supplies load, I just wish there was some tool to monitor how bad it is.
a c 273 ) Power supply
July 25, 2014 11:16:07 PM

There are lists like this to help you buy a quality unit to begin with so you don't have to worry. ;) 

Can anyone say nothing will ever go wrong? No. But I would say it's pretty unlikely. The truth is the unit is decent but it's not as good as what most people expected from a new 80 Plus Gold certified Corsair line. You could have done better and likely for cheaper.
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