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July 26, 2014 3:25:27 AM

As Anort3 says, there is no way to say never. I had good branded items go bad on day one and I have had "replace immediately" power supplies going strong for years before I became the tech at my job.

Personally I dont have issues, but if its something that's troubling, It might be worth it to spend $100 and get a Kingwin laser platinum. Then you can keep the other supply as an emergency backup or use it if you build a test rig.
July 26, 2014 11:49:59 AM

Hey, I am about to buy a PSU tomorrow and was looking in a local store, yet all i see are things that aren't on the list, nor can I find many reviews for them online. Does anyone have opinions or information about the 'Raidmax Cobra' series? Or is the list saying that ALL Raidmax PSU's are trashy?

For reference: 600watt Raidmax Cobra 80+ Gold RX-600AE
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a c 273 ) Power supply
July 26, 2014 11:54:10 AM

kawaiikea said:
Hey, I am about to buy a PSU tomorrow and was looking in a local store, yet all i see are things that aren't on the list, nor can I find many reviews for them online. Does anyone have opinions or information about the 'Raidmax Cobra' series? Or is the list saying that ALL Raidmax PSU's are trashy?

For reference: 600watt Raidmax Cobra 80+ Gold RX-600AE


You should avoid any Raidmax.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014/03/18/raidmax_cobra...

You can't buy online?
July 26, 2014 11:59:30 AM

Well I don't really have a lot of options.
http://www.techtoniccomputers.co.nz/Products/index.php/;focus=ICONZP_cm4all_com_widgets_Shop_222752&path=show?subAction=showCategory&categoryId=1311#ICONZP_cm4all_com_widgets_Shop_222752

This is the only local shop that sells PSU's. I am trying to run a r9280X, what would you recommend?
(I also need this thing within the next 8+ hours)
a c 2488 ) Power supply
July 26, 2014 12:05:28 PM

700watt Antec VP-700P V2
July 26, 2014 12:07:15 PM

May I ask what leads you to that one?
a c 2488 ) Power supply
July 26, 2014 12:08:48 PM

Antec makes quality supplies.

Very low failure rate.
a c 273 ) Power supply
July 26, 2014 12:24:08 PM

^ I agree. Antec is one of the few brands you can recommend by name. The entire lineup is quite good.

The FSP Aurum units are not bad either. The Enermax as well.
July 26, 2014 1:06:27 PM

I have never tried Raidmax's power supplies but I tried their cases and they were terrible, I dint think you could screw up a case but wow, I would have had better luck using a cardboard box. mind you Raidmax probably shops out to other manufactures and the PSUs an Cases are likely made by different people but the cases show me that Raidmax is NOT concerned with their company's reputation for quality.
a c 2488 ) Power supply
July 26, 2014 1:09:28 PM

I agree , I received a free Raidmax Cobra case , it was a flimsy piece of junk.
July 26, 2014 1:17:31 PM

Unfortunately local shops are not the best place to get your stuff. its sad, i like brick and mortar shops for a lot of things but when it comes to computer hardware its almost imposible for a physical store to keep up with e-stores. Goliaths like Tigerdirect and Newegg can offer thousands of choices where as computer shops have if you are lucky, maybe two different brands of each of the major components. Usually those choices are governed by the best deal a company Rep can make them. like the shop two doors down from me sells a lot of Zonenet equipment, Which I find funny because he wont touch it for any of his builds or repairs. If you drop your computer off he orders parts online.

Wish I had a better solution. maybe look online to see if there is a shop with a better selection in the next town over from you?
a b ) Power supply
July 26, 2014 3:29:36 PM

Back in 2005 when I built my first rig totally from scratch from parts I could find at the local Fry's Warehouse. I didn't know much back then about who was who as far as quality and I ended up buying a curiously low priced Raidmax case that came with a 450W PSU. Well the case absoultely sucked and had really sharp edges that cut me while installing the hardware, and the LED on the front panel stopped working after a few days and that was its only feature that made it attractive at all. The PSU shot fireballs out the backside everytime it turned on and eventually died within about six months.

To be fair, I see they now have some ATNG made PSUs which might be ok since ATNG has made some good PSUs for other companies.
July 26, 2014 4:47:54 PM

damric said:
Back in 2005 when I built my first rig totally from scratch from parts I could find at the local Fry's Warehouse. I didn't know much back then about who was who as far as quality and I ended up buying a curiously low priced Raidmax case that came with a 450W PSU. Well the case absoultely sucked and had really sharp edges that cut me while installing the hardware, and the LED on the front panel stopped working after a few days and that was its only feature that made it attractive at all. The PSU shot fireballs out the backside everytime it turned on and eventually died within about six months.

To be fair, I see they now have some ATNG made PSUs which might be ok since ATNG has made some good PSUs for other companies.


somehow I doubt it. considering how low buget they are on everything, I bet ATNG makes the PSUs for Raidmax out of the cheapest leftover scraps possible.

I am glad to see that razor sharp hand cutting goodness was not my treat alone. seems to be a trademark of Raidmax cases.
a c 273 ) Power supply
July 26, 2014 4:55:38 PM

Quote:
To be fair, I see they now have some ATNG made PSUs which might be ok since ATNG has made some good PSUs for other companies.



Where you see that? RealhardtechX shows Andyson and Sun Pro Electronics. Neither inspires confidence.
a b ) Power supply
July 27, 2014 12:05:46 AM

anort3 said:
Quote:
To be fair, I see they now have some ATNG made PSUs which might be ok since ATNG has made some good PSUs for other companies.



Where you see that? RealhardtechX shows Andyson and Sun Pro Electronics. Neither inspires confidence.


Just the A series, according to the updated Tom's guide to who's who. Are those products active?

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supply-psu-br...

a c 273 ) Power supply
July 27, 2014 12:14:40 AM

That's interesting. I usually hold the RealhardtechX site as the most comprehensive list available. It's possible that Raidmax is so low end they didn't bother updating it but there is a new series listed there.

http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page6337.ht...

I don't usually even look at the Tom's list unless a unit or brand is not listed in the RealhardtechX database. Just goes to show you there is no one perfect list!

RealhardtechX lists all units including discontinued models.
a c 1218 ) Power supply
July 28, 2014 9:44:14 AM

damric said:
anort3 said:
Quote:
To be fair, I see they now have some ATNG made PSUs which might be ok since ATNG has made some good PSUs for other companies.



Where you see that? RealhardtechX shows Andyson and Sun Pro Electronics. Neither inspires confidence.


Just the A series, according to the updated Tom's guide to who's who. Are those products active?

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supply-psu-br...



The Raidmax A and XP/XPW Series were discontinued years ago. The A-Series were being sold somewhere back around 2006 and the XP/XPW Series around 2004.

Some Newegg.com customers reported that the A-Series RAIDMAX VOLCANO RX-630A fried their motherboard when the PSU died.

SilentPCReview.com reviewed a Raidmax RX-520XPW back on November 3, 2004 and found that the PSU would shut down when it reached a power draw of 464.5 Watts because the exhaust temperature reached 65°C. That wasn't even tested in a hotbox either. It was at 20°C room temperature.
July 28, 2014 10:57:12 AM

Yep, Raidmax quality, suppose the world should be grateful they make computer supplies and not medical equipment.
a b ) Power supply
August 3, 2014 2:31:29 PM

the list says "EVGA Supernova NEX (greater than 750 Watts) "

what about the 650 and 750
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-120g1075...

are they good enough for a R9 290 and moderatly overclocked 4690k.

says 10 years warrenty on newegg, sounds like they are sure of what they are doing.
I'm looking for the cheapest FULL modular PSU to run my system while still being a good quality PSU
August 5, 2014 5:33:59 AM

why is rosewill fortress series in tier 3 whereas all of them are supposed to be in tier 1 because all of them are 80+ platinum
while other 80+ Platinum series are in tier 1?
example:
Rosewill Fortress 450W 80+ Platinum Certified ATX Power Supply
Rosewill Fortress 550W 80+ Platinum Certified ATX Power Supply
Rosewill Fortress 650W 80+ Platinum Certified ATX Power Supply
Rosewill Fortress 750W 80+ Platinum Certified ATX Power Supply

actually i got that from pcpartpicker! that's why i am asking!
a c 106 ) Power supply
August 5, 2014 6:05:07 AM

efficiecy doesnt always reflect on built quality! the Fortress family is a tier 3 most probably due to lower quality caps used on the secondary side (Capxon , Teapo)!

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Rosewill/FORTRESS-55...

only psu with exclusively (japanese) high quality components can be found on a higher tiers!

Edit: with the exception of Enesol caps,i think, as they arent Japanese but they are considered as high quality caps!
a c 1218 ) Power supply
August 5, 2014 9:18:17 AM

EneSol is a South Korean company. Their specialty is Conductive Polymer Aluminum Solid Capacitors. These have always been considered to be a Tier 1 component.
a c 106 ) Power supply
August 5, 2014 9:36:22 AM

yeah, no wonder why Seasonic uses them on the new XFX XTR !
August 7, 2014 5:37:47 AM

what about this one?

SUPER FLOWER 650W Gaming Power Supply 80Plus Bronze SF-650R14H
a c 106 ) Power supply
August 7, 2014 6:54:38 AM

Kurma said:
what about this one?

SUPER FLOWER 650W Gaming Power Supply 80Plus Bronze SF-650R14H


well it cant be bad....since you care though for a Super Flower, these would be the ones to look for. the imfamous Leadex platform also found in EVGA SUPERNOVA G2 family!

http://www.super-flower.com.tw/products_list.php?class=...
a c 106 ) Power supply
August 8, 2014 4:02:21 PM

new model made by ATNG. i doubt though i will be anywhere near ''Capstone'' made by Super Flower!
a b ) Power supply
August 8, 2014 4:08:27 PM

chris987 said:
new model made by ATNG. i doubt though i will be anywhere near ''Capstone'' made by Super Flower!


The last ATNG Rosewill unit was pretty good for a budget PSU but didn't stay in production long. Remember the Libertas?

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Rosewill-Liberta...

I ended up selling mine to a friend and picked up the Capstone :D 

a c 106 ) Power supply
August 8, 2014 4:17:48 PM

damric said:
chris987 said:
new model made by ATNG. i doubt though i will be anywhere near ''Capstone'' made by Super Flower!


The last ATNG Rosewill unit was pretty good for a budget PSU but didn't stay in production long. Remember the Libertas?

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Rosewill-Liberta...

I ended up selling mine to a friend and picked up the Capstone :D 



yeah it had its flaws though but delivered full power at 50c. http://www.realhardtechx.com states full power at 40c for the ARC. well, we will have to wait for an actual review. it wont be long i guess !
August 8, 2014 4:44:13 PM

damric said:
Zircoben said:
What tier do you think the Rosewill ARC series belong?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It's an incredible deal of a power supply, semi-modular, 450W at $25? Seems like a Corsair-killer.

Does anyone know about this PSU?


All I know is that from the UL# it is an ABS unit.


http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/template/LISEXT/1FRA...


damric said:
chris987 said:
new model made by ATNG. i doubt though i will be anywhere near ''Capstone'' made by Super Flower!


The last ATNG Rosewill unit was pretty good for a budget PSU but didn't stay in production long. Remember the Libertas?

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Rosewill-Liberta...

I ended up selling mine to a friend and picked up the Capstone :D 



So it will be Tier Five?

"Rosewill (their older PSUs)"

That doesn't seem right, but that looks like it is where it will go since the Liberta is one of their older PSUs.

I guess i'll stop recommending that PSU on the forums, lol.
a b ) Power supply
August 8, 2014 4:46:48 PM

Zircoben said:
damric said:
Zircoben said:
What tier do you think the Rosewill ARC series belong?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It's an incredible deal of a power supply, semi-modular, 450W at $25? Seems like a Corsair-killer.

Does anyone know about this PSU?


All I know is that from the UL# it is an ABS unit.


http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/template/LISEXT/1FRA...


damric said:
chris987 said:
new model made by ATNG. i doubt though i will be anywhere near ''Capstone'' made by Super Flower!


The last ATNG Rosewill unit was pretty good for a budget PSU but didn't stay in production long. Remember the Libertas?

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Rosewill-Liberta...

I ended up selling mine to a friend and picked up the Capstone :D 



So it will be Tier Five?

"Rosewill (their older PSUs)"

That doesn't seem right, but that looks like it is where it will go since the Liberta is one of their older PSUs.

I guess i'll stop recommending that PSU on the forums, lol.


No way. If they have Corsair CX and RM in tier 2B then anything ATNG/ABS is is like tier 1AA lol. These tiers are AFU.

I think what they intended is the Rosewills that are made by Solytech Wintech, and Youngyear, be in tier 5.The Sirtec and ATNG units are certainly better than the units put out by Chicony and Channel Well (RM/CX).

August 8, 2014 4:51:08 PM

damric said:
Zircoben said:
damric said:
Zircoben said:
What tier do you think the Rosewill ARC series belong?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It's an incredible deal of a power supply, semi-modular, 450W at $25? Seems like a Corsair-killer.

Does anyone know about this PSU?


All I know is that from the UL# it is an ABS unit.


http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/template/LISEXT/1FRA...


damric said:
chris987 said:
new model made by ATNG. i doubt though i will be anywhere near ''Capstone'' made by Super Flower!


The last ATNG Rosewill unit was pretty good for a budget PSU but didn't stay in production long. Remember the Libertas?

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Rosewill-Liberta...

I ended up selling mine to a friend and picked up the Capstone :D 



So it will be Tier Five?

"Rosewill (their older PSUs)"

That doesn't seem right, but that looks like it is where it will go since the Liberta is one of their older PSUs.

I guess i'll stop recommending that PSU on the forums, lol.


No way. If they have Corsair CX and RM in tier 2B then anything ATNG/ABS is is like tier 1AA lol. These tiers are AFU.

I think what they intended is the Rosewills that are made by DEER, ect, be in tier 5.



Cool, thanks for the clarification. I see an ABS PSU in tier 2B, so that makes sense.
August 13, 2014 11:50:07 PM

hi guys. would a silverstone strider 750w 80+ silver be good enough for a asus radeon r9 280 crossfire? will also have 120 gb ssd. 2 tb HDD
a c 273 ) Power supply
August 14, 2014 1:27:57 AM

Is this the unit?

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

If so it is a very solid unit that would handle Crossfire 280s easily. That being said I see that review is from 2010. If your power supply is over 4 years old then I would start thinking about upgrading. Capacitor aging is not as bad as power supply calculation sites make it out to be at least not with high quality units but it does happen.
a b ) Power supply
August 14, 2014 1:37:18 AM

Easily, I have that exact unit which I bought with the intention of eventually Crossfire/SLI'ing.
August 14, 2014 1:39:56 AM

anort3 said:
Is this the unit?

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

If so it is a very solid unit that would handle Crossfire 280s easily. That being said I see that review is from 2010. If your power supply is over 4 years old then I would start thinking about upgrading. Capacitor aging is not as bad as power supply calculation sites make it out to be at least not with high quality units but it does happen.

yep that's the PSU. and i think the series is quite old but I'll be getting one new so capacitor aging shouldn't be an issue. Thanks a lot man!
a b ) Power supply
August 14, 2014 12:24:00 PM

I'm surprised the Thortech Thunderbolt Plus 1200W PSU isn't rated on this. It's 80 plus gold rated and compatible with SLi, yet is one of the worst PSUs you can buy thanks to it's ludicrous ripple on the 12v rails. I would probably rate it at Tier 4

See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCuKM6Ux4B4
August 15, 2014 7:03:29 AM

Is Antec Neo HE the same as Antec Neo Eco? I have the Neo Eco 620c and wanted to see what tier that falls into :) 
August 15, 2014 9:34:49 AM

It looks like all Tier 1 XFX psu's have been discontinued. That's unfortunate.

Second, regarding the Tier 2: OCZ "ModXStream series (Again, if manufactured from December 2007 or later)".

I just had a OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W from 2009 blow out this week. Not sure I'd make that a Tier 2.
a b ) Power supply
August 15, 2014 9:43:11 AM

Landstander said:
It looks like all Tier 1 XFX psu's have been discontinued. That's unfortunate


Really? Bummer, I bought an XFX Black Edition 1250w a few months ago, got it dirt cheap as well and it was brand new.
a c 1218 ) Power supply
August 15, 2014 10:18:04 AM

CGurrell said:
Landstander said:
It looks like all Tier 1 XFX psu's have been discontinued. That's unfortunate


Really? Bummer, I bought an XFX Black Edition 1250w a few months ago, got it dirt cheap as well and it was brand new.


You were able to get it cheap because they were clearing remaining stock out of the distribution channel. XFX is pretty much limited to the platforms that Seasonic still have in production.
a b ) Power supply
August 15, 2014 10:22:50 AM

ko888 said:
CGurrell said:
Landstander said:
It looks like all Tier 1 XFX psu's have been discontinued. That's unfortunate


Really? Bummer, I bought an XFX Black Edition 1250w a few months ago, got it dirt cheap as well and it was brand new.


You were able to get it cheap because they were clearing remaining stock out of the distribution channel. XFX is pretty much limited to the platforms that Seasonic still have in production.


Actually, I got it new and sealed off of eBay for £80 (it's currently £190 on scan) as some guy won one in a competition but didn't need it, put it up for 99p starting bid, I won it for £75 plus p+p. Probably the best deal I've ever gotten :p 
August 15, 2014 11:44:59 AM

How does XFX TS series with the 80 Plus Gold rating rank?
a c 273 ) Power supply
August 15, 2014 12:43:52 PM

Landstander said:
How does XFX TS series with the 80 Plus Gold rating rank?


I believe that is a Seasonic G series platform. That would make it a very solid tier 2 if not tier 1. Other than a slightly inferior fan I don't see how the G series is inferior to the X series.
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