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Landstander
August 15, 2014 2:54:26 PM
anort3 said:
Landstander said:
How does XFX TS series with the 80 Plus Gold rating rank?I believe that is a Seasonic G series platform. That would make it a very solid tier 2 if not tier 1. Other than a slightly inferior fan I don't see how the G series is inferior to the X series.
I did some spec comparison, yes, it does appear to be the non-modular version of the G-series, an S12G.
Does Seasonic have an inferior fan on these? Does XFX or Seasonic have better fans (or are they the same)?
I'm sort of between XFX Core/Seasonic equivalent and the XFX TS Gold/Seasonic Equivalent. A quieter/better PSU will certainly be important to my decision since this PC is in a bedroom.
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Landstander said:
anort3 said:
Landstander said:
How does XFX TS series with the 80 Plus Gold rating rank?I believe that is a Seasonic G series platform. That would make it a very solid tier 2 if not tier 1. Other than a slightly inferior fan I don't see how the G series is inferior to the X series.
I did some spec comparison, yes, it does appear to be the non-modular version of the G-series, an S12G.
Does Seasonic have an inferior fan on these? Does XFX or Seasonic have better fans (or are they the same)?
I'm sort of between XFX Core/Seasonic equivalent and the XFX TS Gold/Seasonic Equivalent. A quieter/better PSU will certainly be important to my decision since this PC is in a bedroom.
all have quality ball bearing fans that will last long enough, i wouldnt worry. as for the noise levels unless you will run it close to its max performance you will barely notice it!
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chris987 said:
Landstander said:
anort3 said:
Landstander said:
How does XFX TS series with the 80 Plus Gold rating rank?I believe that is a Seasonic G series platform. That would make it a very solid tier 2 if not tier 1. Other than a slightly inferior fan I don't see how the G series is inferior to the X series.
I did some spec comparison, yes, it does appear to be the non-modular version of the G-series, an S12G.
Does Seasonic have an inferior fan on these? Does XFX or Seasonic have better fans (or are they the same)?
I'm sort of between XFX Core/Seasonic equivalent and the XFX TS Gold/Seasonic Equivalent. A quieter/better PSU will certainly be important to my decision since this PC is in a bedroom.
all have quality ball bearing fans that will last long enough, i wouldnt worry. as for the noise levels unless you will run it close to its max performance you will barely notice it!
Do these have the hybrid fan mode the Black Edition PSUs have?
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Landstander
August 15, 2014 5:16:03 PM
chris987 said:
XFX XTR has hybrid fam modehttp://xfxforce.com/en-us/products/xtr-series-full-modu...*
Agreed, XFX claims the XTR and TS Gold units all have the hybrid fans.
I can find no mention of the Core Editions having anything specific for cooling.
Does Seasonic use anything similar or is theirs always on full bore?
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Landstander said:
chris987 said:
XFX XTR has hybrid fam modehttp://xfxforce.com/en-us/products/xtr-series-full-modu...*
Agreed, XFX claims the XTR and TS Gold units all have the hybrid fans.
I can find no mention of the Core Editions having anything specific for cooling.
Does Seasonic use anything similar or is theirs always on full bore?
Seasonic uses it on all their higher end models. Even with the fan on and hours of gaming I can't hear the fan on my 660XP2. I would expect any Platinum or X series model to be similarly quiet.
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Landstander
August 15, 2014 6:54:15 PM
No just the X and Platinum series. The G series does have a heat regulated fan though. The G series would be considered mid ranged and the S12G is a 'budget' unit although it's better than 90% of the units on the market so don't let that label fool you.
What are you wanting to power and what is your budget?
What are you wanting to power and what is your budget?
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Landstander
August 15, 2014 10:17:08 PM
So the S12G does NOT have a regulated fan even though the XFX equivalent does? If so that makes the XFX a better choice.
I'm leaning towards 550w, even though my last PSU was 600w:
FX-8320 (with a light overclock at stock voltage)
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Asus M5A99X EVO R2.0
Gigabyte GTX 660 (factory o/c'd)
8gb Ripjaws X DDR3 1866
2x WD 7200rpm (1TB Black and 500gb Blue)
Five 80mm case fans with a fan controller
Internal BD Burner
PCI USR fax/modem
Edit: Sorted. Bought a Rosewill 650-M for $75. Should cover everything I need. Thanks for the great info guys.
I'm leaning towards 550w, even though my last PSU was 600w:
FX-8320 (with a light overclock at stock voltage)
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Asus M5A99X EVO R2.0
Gigabyte GTX 660 (factory o/c'd)
8gb Ripjaws X DDR3 1866
2x WD 7200rpm (1TB Black and 500gb Blue)
Five 80mm case fans with a fan controller
Internal BD Burner
PCI USR fax/modem
Edit: Sorted. Bought a Rosewill 650-M for $75. Should cover everything I need. Thanks for the great info guys.
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JRFET
August 17, 2014 6:37:26 AM
cry0g3n
August 17, 2014 6:53:08 AM
I was wondering what Tier the Xilence Performance A 530W belongs to. Someone asked about it.
Here are some reviews:
http://www.tech-review.de/include.php?path=content/arti...
http://tech-fire.de/2014/07/31/xilence-performance-a-se...
Here is another Xilence PSU, Redwing 350W, which did not fare well. http://extreme.pcgameshardware.de/anleitungen-wichtige-...
Here are some reviews:
http://www.tech-review.de/include.php?path=content/arti...
http://tech-fire.de/2014/07/31/xilence-performance-a-se...
Here is another Xilence PSU, Redwing 350W, which did not fare well. http://extreme.pcgameshardware.de/anleitungen-wichtige-...
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JRFET said:
It's on the list.....and yes you can OC with it...don't believe that crap it isn't that bad....actually pretty solid for the price.better than corsair CX
No. Very comparable to the CX but certainly not better. Both are budget units not designed to be stressed and both use second rate capacitors. HEC is the EVGA OEM and CWT is the Corsair OEM. Personally I would go with CWT.
Xilence is not a brand I am familiar with and there seem to be no real reviews of their products. Based on the OEMs they use I would say avoid them unless they are the only models available to you.
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page2829.ht...
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JRFET
August 17, 2014 2:07:33 PM
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JRFET
August 18, 2014 9:19:49 AM
xrhstos7003
August 18, 2014 11:29:42 AM
I have a 400W 1 year old PSU in my system. It has just enough power to hold my GPU. Yesterday I found in my village an old PSU at 500w. It's not listed because you removed old PSUs, so I wanted to ask if is it good. Here it is:
ALLIED Tech SL-8500BTX
It will be able to handle my gpu, but does it provide a stable performance?
ALLIED Tech SL-8500BTX
It will be able to handle my gpu, but does it provide a stable performance?
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xrhstos7003 said:
I have a 400W 1 year old PSU in my system. It has just enough power to hold my GPU. Yesterday I found in my village an old PSU at 500w. It's not listed because you removed old PSUs, so I wanted to ask if is it good. Here it is:ALLIED Tech SL-8500BTX
It will be able to handle my gpu, but does it provide a stable performance?
It's in Tier 5 as Apex (SUPERCASE/ALLIED)
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xrhstos7003
August 18, 2014 11:43:34 AM
ko888 said:
xrhstos7003 said:
I have a 400W 1 year old PSU in my system. It has just enough power to hold my GPU. Yesterday I found in my village an old PSU at 500w. It's not listed because you removed old PSUs, so I wanted to ask if is it good. Here it is:ALLIED Tech SL-8500BTX
It will be able to handle my gpu, but does it provide a stable performance?
It's in Tier 5 as Apex (SUPERCASE/ALLIED)
Thanks. So I will sell it and I will buy a Corsair from the CX or CXM series when i have the money.
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Mahisse
August 25, 2014 1:53:03 AM
Just bought a XFX Proseries XXX 650W PSU and is a bit dissapointed in how noisy it is. It's not like it's really loud but it's noticable compared to my crappy LC 550W 120mm fan PSU (Linkworld), which ran almost dead silence. I appreciate that the components in my PSU is much better than my old PSU but I don't think the XFX XXX series deserves to be in tier one.
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Mahisse said:
Just bought a XFX Proseries XXX 650W PSU and is a bit dissapointed in how noisy it is. It's not like it's really loud but it's noticable compared to my crappy LC 550W 120mm fan PSU (Linkworld), which ran almost dead silence. I appreciate that the components in my PSU is much better than my old PSU but I don't think the XFX XXX series deserves to be in tier one.The ADDA ADN512UB-A90 fan used in the XFX ProSeries XXX Edition isn't considered to be of the highest quality. Noise is subjective. Some people will consider it quiet if it's being masked by noise from other sources within the operating environment but some won't.
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ericarzou81
August 27, 2014 8:29:22 PM
Tier 2, it's a very good unit. However it is getting a bit old and something newer that is a step up in quality and performance like the G series is generally available for a very similar price. The S12II is not compatible with Haswell low power states. It will work fine in a Haswell system but you will have to disable the C6 and C7 states in BIOS.
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Rexer
August 28, 2014 2:43:23 AM
STACKS ON DECK said:
dottorrent said:
STACKS ON DECK said:
dottorrent said:
Hi guys.Apologies on my absence on the tier list, I have been incredibly busy. The tier list will be updated ASAP.
I am still not sure about the RM series from corsair . . are they good ? . RM series is listed in tier 2 class A . but they are not that good as reviewed . . I am also looking to buy the 650w version . . what's your thoughts ?
Most RM PSUs are excellent choices. The 650w Model will be moved to Tier 3, until further notice. It's a decent choice, as it is silent, got a good amount of cables and is built to a high standard from Corsair. I would stress though, that the Seasonic G-650 is another £5 - £10 ($8 - $15) more expensive, but is of higher quality. That would be my pick.
my friend has RM750 and it has real temperature issues . . it has shutdown 3 to 4 times on high temp like almost 40degree . . that's why i haven't bought this yet . . so the rm650 is in tier 3 and the other models are still in tier 2 . . any explaination . . . ?
I own a Corsair RM750 I just pulled out of my game computer and threw in the closet. I had gone around in circles trying to figure out what's wrong with my rig. I built it 9 months ago and it's been a real heater. Great in the winter, toasty in spring. It couldn't take the summer and began to black out and finally kacked at the end of July '14. I began looking on websites here and there and discovered Corsair was having a recall on the RM 750, first 4 numbers in serial numbers below 1341. The recall is due to a possible thermal problem. The first four numbers of my serial # are 1333.
http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=123484
I was gonna buy the SeaSonic X Series 750 but changed my mind on the advice of a friend. After several hundred dollars spent on suspect parts and a few misdiagnoses, I wish I'd never strayed. But I'm not saying this as a slam on Corsair where this misfortune was just the 'luck of the draw'.
Fact is, you're probably right about waiting till it gets to a higher tier because Corsair does invest in quality with some regularity, enough to dispute a moment's reflection of mistaken calculated values.
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The problem with the RM in my opinion was the fact that Corsair used two different OEMs for the series. Their old standby CWT makes the 450w, 550w, 650w and 1000w versions and Chicony Power Technology makes the less than stellar reviewed 750w and 850w models. The good news is that Corsair knows the first Chicony models were terrible and now Chicony has released an updated version. There are no real reviews of the updated models yet so I still will not recommend them until I see a few.
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xreap
August 30, 2014 11:10:04 AM
xreap said:
Just wondering, why was the seasonic M12II tiered at tier one while the M12II bronze was tiered at tier 2? There were only two models in the M12II Series (SS-430GM and SS-500GM), both only 80 PLUS standard efficiency units that were discontinued years ago.
It should have been labelled M12II Bronze SS-650AM, SS-750AM and SS-850AM models. The point is moot, anyway, since the M12II Bronze Series has been discontinued and has been replaced by the M12II Bronze EVO Edition Series.
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blackfonzy32
August 31, 2014 10:42:52 AM
If anything, I'd say the v2 lineup is a little better than the original TX. The V2 are made by Seasonic, whereas most of the TX originals are made by CWT.
Johnnyguru review of the 850 v2
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
Johnnyguru review of the 850 v2
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
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daretozlatan
August 31, 2014 11:42:44 AM
daretozlatan said:
How would The Cooler Master G750m rank up in this?No real reviews of that exact model exist but it's made by CWT. Here is a review of the 550w model.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/CoolerMaster/G550M/1...
CapXon capacitors on the secondary alone are enough for tier 3. It's a value unit and should be used as such.
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Looks like the Antec Edge series are based on the Seasonic G platform making them very solid tier 2 units.
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page673.htm
750w review.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014/09/02/antec_edge_75...
Probably safe to list the entire True Power Classic line as tier 2 as well. Same platform.
750 review.
http://hardocp.com/article/2014/07/08/antec_truepower_c...
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page673.htm
750w review.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014/09/02/antec_edge_75...
Probably safe to list the entire True Power Classic line as tier 2 as well. Same platform.
750 review.
http://hardocp.com/article/2014/07/08/antec_truepower_c...
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not a leadex platform like G2,P2 but based on the Super Flower platform found in Rosewill Capstone. not a flawless unit but still a great one. Tier two class A i would say. here is the review!
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
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FaustoGomez
September 9, 2014 6:13:24 AM
Can you fix the Zalman PSU`s ?
I may need to buy a budget PSU depending on my budget and there are these options I see;
Zalman ZM 400 LE sells for 40$,
Zalman ZM 500 LE sells for 53$ but I don`t need high wattage anyway,
Zalman ZM 500 LX sells for 62$,
Zalman ZM 600 LX sells for 69$ but I don`t need high wattage as I said before
Corsair VS 450 for 55$,
Some thermaltake Litepowers.
Anyway, I am thinking that the VS 450 is the best option. The list says Zalman ZM series under 1000w is Tier2 A but the same list says ZM Series 850/1000W is Tier3.
So according to the list, any PSU from Zalman which is under 1000w is Tier2A with the expection of 850w units being both tier2a and tier3.
Edit: Also I am not in `Murica, I`m in Turkey so I can use the VS 450.
I may need to buy a budget PSU depending on my budget and there are these options I see;
Zalman ZM 400 LE sells for 40$,
Zalman ZM 500 LE sells for 53$ but I don`t need high wattage anyway,
Zalman ZM 500 LX sells for 62$,
Zalman ZM 600 LX sells for 69$ but I don`t need high wattage as I said before
Corsair VS 450 for 55$,
Some thermaltake Litepowers.
Anyway, I am thinking that the VS 450 is the best option. The list says Zalman ZM series under 1000w is Tier2 A but the same list says ZM Series 850/1000W is Tier3.
So according to the list, any PSU from Zalman which is under 1000w is Tier2A with the expection of 850w units being both tier2a and tier3.
Edit: Also I am not in `Murica, I`m in Turkey so I can use the VS 450.
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FaustoGomez said:
Can you fix the Zalman PSU`s ?
I may need to buy a budget PSU depending on my budget and there are these options I see;
Zalman ZM 400 LE sells for 40$,
Zalman ZM 500 LE sells for 53$ but I don`t need high wattage anyway,
Zalman ZM 500 LX sells for 62$,
Zalman ZM 600 LX sells for 69$ but I don`t need high wattage as I said before
Corsair VS 450 for 55$,
Some thermaltake Litepowers.
Anyway, I am thinking that the VS 450 is the best option. The list says Zalman ZM series under 1000w is Tier2 A but the same list says ZM Series 850/1000W is Tier3.
So according to the list, any PSU from Zalman which is under 1000w is Tier2A with the expection of 850w units being both tier2a and tier3.
Edit: Also I am not in `Murica, I`m in Turkey so I can use the VS 450.
Fixed. The VS450 is a decent budget unit. Better and more honest than the cheap rubbish you'll find.
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FaustoGomez
September 9, 2014 10:59:33 AM
Uhm, thanks for your efforts maintaining this list, its very helpful
but, its not fixed?
Let me try to help you..
There are Zalman ZM LE series which I think is the cheapest and neither features Active PFC nor 80plus rating.
There are Zalman ZM LX PSU`s with security features and Active PFC.
ZM APS,ZM RS,ZM ST,ZM HP,ZM GT,ZM GS II,ZM GLX,ZM GV,ZM GVN,ZM FX.
What the hell? I counted 12 PSU series. Holy *****. I think theres more.
I suggest you put all Zalman PSU`s to untiered now and work your way one by one.
That has to be hard
but, its not fixed?Let me try to help you..
There are Zalman ZM LE series which I think is the cheapest and neither features Active PFC nor 80plus rating.
There are Zalman ZM LX PSU`s with security features and Active PFC.
ZM APS,ZM RS,ZM ST,ZM HP,ZM GT,ZM GS II,ZM GLX,ZM GV,ZM GVN,ZM FX.
What the hell? I counted 12 PSU series. Holy *****. I think theres more.
I suggest you put all Zalman PSU`s to untiered now and work your way one by one.
That has to be hard
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FaustoGomez said:
Uhm, thanks for your efforts maintaining this list, its very helpful
but, its not fixed?Let me try to help you..
There are Zalman ZM LE series which I think is the cheapest and neither features Active PFC nor 80plus rating.
There are Zalman ZM LX PSU`s with security features and Active PFC.
ZM APS,ZM RS,ZM ST,ZM HP,ZM GT,ZM GS II,ZM GLX,ZM GV,ZM GVN,ZM FX.
What the hell? I counted 12 PSU series. Holy *****. I think theres more.
I suggest you put all Zalman PSU`s to untiered now and work your way one by one.
That has to be hard
chimera201 said:
What the heck is Zalman ZM Series? There is no such thing as ZM Series from Zalman. All their PSU model numbers start with ZM and not series.LE series
OEM : Hui Cheng Electronic Technology
No reviews
LX series
OEM : Hui Cheng Electronic Technology
No reviews
APS series
OEM : FSP
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Zalman-ZM360B-AP...
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/673
US series
OEM : CWT
http://hardocp.com/article/2011/12/13/zalman_zm450us_45...
ST series
OEM : HEC, Enhance Electronics
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/981
RS series
OEM : FSP
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/882
GS series
OEM : CWT
No reviews
GS II series
OEM : Hui Cheng Electronic Technology
No reviews
GT series
OEM : FSP
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cases/display/chieftec...
XT series
OEM : Enhance Electronics
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/885
GLX series
OEM : Sirtec
No reviews
GV series
OEM : Enhance Electronics
No reviews
SV series
OEM : Enhance Electronics
No reviews
HP series
OEM : FSP, Enhance Electronics
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/661
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Zalman-ZM850-HP-...
GoldRock series
OEM : Enhance Electronics
No reviews
Platinum series
OEM : CWT
No reviews
The thing is people don't care about PSUs that is not available in USA
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September 9, 2014 11:59:26 AM
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September 9, 2014 12:15:17 PM
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