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a b ) Power supply
September 10, 2014 4:05:42 AM

chimera201 said:
14140600,0,1367745 said:
Uhm, thanks for your efforts maintaining this list, its very helpful :)  but, its not fixed?

Let me try to help you..

There are Zalman ZM LE series which I think is the cheapest and neither features Active PFC nor 80plus rating.

There are Zalman ZM LX PSU`s with security features and Active PFC.

ZM APS,ZM RS,ZM ST,ZM HP,ZM GT,ZM GS II,ZM GLX,ZM GV,ZM GVN,ZM FX.

What the hell? I counted 12 PSU series. Holy *****. I think theres more.

I suggest you put all Zalman PSU`s to untiered now and work your way one by one.

That has to be hard :fou: 
said:


It doesn't actually matter. There are few reviews for their units, so it makes sense to do this. Unless some professional reviews sprout up for their newer units, then I'll start updating them.


a c 273 ) Power supply
September 10, 2014 10:56:43 AM

Look about 10 posts back at my post about the Antec Edge and TP Classic lines.
a b ) Power supply
September 10, 2014 1:23:36 PM

anort3 said:
Look about 10 posts back at my post about the Antec Edge and TP Classic lines.


EDGE series moved to Tier 2 A. Though, the Truepower Classic units were already in Tier 2 A in the first place.
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a c 273 ) Power supply
September 10, 2014 2:21:35 PM

dottorrent said:
anort3 said:
Look about 10 posts back at my post about the Antec Edge and TP Classic lines.


EDGE series moved to Tier 2 A. Though, the Truepower Classic units were already in Tier 2 A in the first place.


Only the 750w model ;) 
a b ) Power supply
September 11, 2014 4:43:10 AM

anort3 said:
dottorrent said:
anort3 said:
Look about 10 posts back at my post about the Antec Edge and TP Classic lines.


EDGE series moved to Tier 2 A. Though, the Truepower Classic units were already in Tier 2 A in the first place.


Only the 750w model ;) 


Until Antec shift to less powerful or more powerful units, i think it's comfy in Tier 2 A.
a b ) Power supply
September 12, 2014 1:46:52 AM

You don't understand. There is no such thing as Zalman ZM series. Whatever is listed in the Tier list need to be listed with the proper series name
September 12, 2014 8:01:03 AM

chimera201 said:
You don't understand. There is no such thing as Zalman ZM series. Whatever is listed in the Tier list need to be listed with the proper series name


Yes! I was trying to say that. Thanks mate :D 
September 13, 2014 4:43:27 AM

Hello.
I just want some confirmation/explanation, are the Corsair AXi series made by Flextronics and the AX made by Seasonic?
Does that mean Flextronics is better than or equal to Seasonic then?
Thanks in advance.
a b ) Power supply
September 13, 2014 4:49:39 AM

NugieDX said:
Hello.
I just want some confirmation/explanation, are the Corsair AXi series made by Flextronics and the AX made by Seasonic?
Does that mean Flextronics is better than or equal to Seasonic then?
Thanks in advance.


They're just about equal. Either unit series is excellent either way.
a b ) Power supply
September 13, 2014 4:49:45 AM

chimera201 said:
You don't understand. There is no such thing as Zalman ZM series. Whatever is listed in the Tier list need to be listed with the proper series name


It's done. But again, Zalman's units have very few reviews, old or new, of their other series. And I won't count the indie review sites which don't look at the more important stuff.
September 15, 2014 2:13:57 AM

gamingmaniac said:
why is rosewill fortress series in tier 3 whereas all of them are supposed to be in tier 1 because all of them are 80+ platinum
while other 80+ Platinum series are in tier 1?
example:
Rosewill Fortress 450W 80+ Platinum Certified ATX Power Supply
Rosewill Fortress 550W 80+ Platinum Certified ATX Power Supply
Rosewill Fortress 650W 80+ Platinum Certified ATX Power Supply
Rosewill Fortress 750W 80+ Platinum Certified ATX Power Supply

actually i got that from pcpartpicker! that's why i am asking!


I was also wondering about this, is it tier 3 due to it not meeting expectations regarding ripple suppression for a platinum rated PSU, and does that still mean it is on par with the Corsair series PSUs in the same tier.
That the Fortress series is unsuitable for reliable overclocking?

Just curious and looking to learn a bit more about the power supply in my build, I have as of yet had no issues with it and am wondering if it is in a low tier as a reference to overclockers and not it's reliability (7 year warranty? etc)

Sorry if I sound like a noob :'( 

September 15, 2014 4:10:32 AM

Hey, what about Antec Earthwatts below 700W?
a b ) Power supply
September 15, 2014 5:59:05 AM

Seeking Solace said:
gamingmaniac said:
why is rosewill fortress series in tier 3 whereas all of them are supposed to be in tier 1 because all of them are 80+ platinum
while other 80+ Platinum series are in tier 1?
example:
Rosewill Fortress 450W 80+ Platinum Certified ATX Power Supply
Rosewill Fortress 550W 80+ Platinum Certified ATX Power Supply
Rosewill Fortress 650W 80+ Platinum Certified ATX Power Supply
Rosewill Fortress 750W 80+ Platinum Certified ATX Power Supply

actually i got that from pcpartpicker! that's why i am asking!


I was also wondering about this, is it tier 3 due to it not meeting expectations regarding ripple suppression for a platinum rated PSU, and does that still mean it is on par with the Corsair series PSUs in the same tier.
That the Fortress series is unsuitable for reliable overclocking?

Just curious and looking to learn a bit more about the power supply in my build, I have as of yet had no issues with it and am wondering if it is in a low tier as a reference to overclockers and not it's reliability (7 year warranty? etc)

Sorry if I sound like a noob :'( 



The tier list isn't ranked by efficiency rating. It's quality and reliability rating based. The Seasonic M12II EVO units are Bronze rated, but of high quality.
a b ) Power supply
September 15, 2014 6:04:55 AM

NugieDX said:
Hey, what about Antec Earthwatts below 700W?


Tier 2 Class A. They were Seasonic Units. The Platinum ones were FSP models. The Tier 3 were Delta, but delta normally doesn't fair well with higher wattages.
September 15, 2014 6:30:46 AM

dottorrent said:
Seeking Solace said:
gamingmaniac said:
why is rosewill fortress series in tier 3 whereas all of them are supposed to be in tier 1 because all of them are 80+ platinum
while other 80+ Platinum series are in tier 1?
example:
Rosewill Fortress 450W 80+ Platinum Certified ATX Power Supply
Rosewill Fortress 550W 80+ Platinum Certified ATX Power Supply
Rosewill Fortress 650W 80+ Platinum Certified ATX Power Supply
Rosewill Fortress 750W 80+ Platinum Certified ATX Power Supply

actually i got that from pcpartpicker! that's why i am asking!


I was also wondering about this, is it tier 3 due to it not meeting expectations regarding ripple suppression for a platinum rated PSU, and does that still mean it is on par with the Corsair series PSUs in the same tier.
That the Fortress series is unsuitable for reliable overclocking?

Just curious and looking to learn a bit more about the power supply in my build, I have as of yet had no issues with it and am wondering if it is in a low tier as a reference to overclockers and not it's reliability (7 year warranty? etc)

Sorry if I sound like a noob :'( 



The tier list isn't ranked by efficiency rating. It's quality and reliability rating based. The Seasonic M12II EVO units are Bronze rated, but of high quality.


So my platinum certified, 7 year warranty PSU isn't reliable?
Sorry, I'm not trying to be awkward, just didn't understand the answer, my question wasn't asking why a platinum rated PSU is in a lower tier, I was asking what criteria put it there knowing the certificate isn't part of it and why I asked about whether the ripple suppression being part of that.
a b ) Power supply
September 15, 2014 6:34:33 AM

Seeking Solace said:
dottorrent said:
Seeking Solace said:
gamingmaniac said:
why is rosewill fortress series in tier 3 whereas all of them are supposed to be in tier 1 because all of them are 80+ platinum
while other 80+ Platinum series are in tier 1?
example:
Rosewill Fortress 450W 80+ Platinum Certified ATX Power Supply
Rosewill Fortress 550W 80+ Platinum Certified ATX Power Supply
Rosewill Fortress 650W 80+ Platinum Certified ATX Power Supply
Rosewill Fortress 750W 80+ Platinum Certified ATX Power Supply

actually i got that from pcpartpicker! that's why i am asking!


I was also wondering about this, is it tier 3 due to it not meeting expectations regarding ripple suppression for a platinum rated PSU, and does that still mean it is on par with the Corsair series PSUs in the same tier.
That the Fortress series is unsuitable for reliable overclocking?

Just curious and looking to learn a bit more about the power supply in my build, I have as of yet had no issues with it and am wondering if it is in a low tier as a reference to overclockers and not it's reliability (7 year warranty? etc)

Sorry if I sound like a noob :'( 



The tier list isn't ranked by efficiency rating. It's quality and reliability rating based. The Seasonic M12II EVO units are Bronze rated, but of high quality.


So my platinum certified, 7 year warranty PSU isn't reliable?
Sorry, I'm not trying to be awkward, just didn't understand the answer, my question wasn't asking why a platinum rated PSU is in a lower tier, I was asking what criteria put it there knowing the certificate isn't part of it and why I asked about whether the ripple suppression being part of that.


After looking into a few reviews deeper, it's moved to Tier 2 Class B, despite the OEM of the unit being ATNG, which they are normally not very good.

Your unit has a 7 year warranty, so don't give it up if it dies.
a b ) Power supply
September 16, 2014 6:57:50 AM

Just a thought guys. I'm thinking of adding an update section, for which I mean when new units come into the list as untiered, moved to a tier or removed, due to being a bit old and crusty.

How does that sound?
September 16, 2014 7:18:24 AM

sounds fine. I only pay attention to the tiered section anyway, I seldom look past Tier 2A ;) 
a c 1218 ) Power supply
September 16, 2014 9:53:18 AM

The OCZ PSU brand has been discontinued and is now being sold under the FirePower Technology brand.

Only these models are still in production:

Silencer Mk III Series 400-600W
Silencer Mk III Series 750-1200W
Turbo-Cool Series
ModXstream Pro Series
Fatal1ty Series
ZX Series
ZS Series (230V Only)
CoreXStream (230V Only)
ZT Series
September 16, 2014 9:56:33 AM

Did FirePower buy out all of OCZ or just their PSU production?
a c 1218 ) Power supply
September 16, 2014 10:01:07 AM

DHFF said:
Did FirePower buy out all of OCZ or just their PSU production?


Only the PSU product line.

Toshiba bought up the SSD product line.
September 16, 2014 10:14:01 AM

Shame. I really like OCZ drives. I hope Toshiba doesnt change anything but typically when companies get bought out, it all goes to hell. Before Dell bought them out, Alienware was a real name in computers. now they are a joke.
a c 273 ) Power supply
September 16, 2014 10:19:59 AM

dottorrent said:
Just a thought guys. I'm thinking of adding an update section, for which I mean when new units come into the list as untiered, moved to a tier or removed, due to being a bit old and crusty.

How does that sound?


I think it would be a good idea to at least add a date to each unit. If not date of release then date of review. Certainly units from the last couple of years have dramatically increased in quality as well as efficiency. So something that is tier 1 from 2007 would probably not make the cut today.
September 16, 2014 10:49:45 AM

Good point!
dates of the reviews would be extremely handy.
a c 1218 ) Power supply
September 16, 2014 11:02:01 AM

anort3 said:
dottorrent said:
Just a thought guys. I'm thinking of adding an update section, for which I mean when new units come into the list as untiered, moved to a tier or removed, due to being a bit old and crusty.

How does that sound?


I think it would be a good idea to at least add a date to each unit. If not date of release then date of review. Certainly units from the last couple of years have dramatically increased in quality as well as efficiency. So something that is tier 1 from 2007 would probably not make the cut today.


I agree with @anort3.

For the list to be meaningful, it needs to be regularly purged of discontinued models and be re-ranked (i.e. older models be re-tiered relative to new incoming models).
a c 2488 ) Power supply
September 16, 2014 11:23:25 AM

+1 ^
a b ) Power supply
September 16, 2014 12:06:35 PM

Very well. I shall proceed with the idea. Thanks for the great reception guys! :) 
a c 273 ) Power supply
September 16, 2014 7:37:40 PM

dottorrent said:
Very well. I shall proceed with the idea. Thanks for the great reception guys! :) 


Thanks for all the hard work. :) 

If you need any help PM me.
September 17, 2014 9:47:44 AM

What about Antec Neo Eco 620C Bronze?? In which tier does it stand?
a c 1218 ) Power supply
September 17, 2014 10:01:38 AM

saib1 said:
What about Antec Neo Eco 620C Bronze?? In which tier does it stand?


It's based on the Seasonic S12II-620 Bronze platform.
September 17, 2014 10:14:50 AM

That means it belongs to Tier 2 Class A right?

ko888 said:
saib1 said:
What about Antec Neo Eco 620C Bronze?? In which tier does it stand?


It's based on the Seasonic S12II-620 Bronze platform.


a c 273 ) Power supply
September 17, 2014 10:25:16 AM

saib1 said:
That means it belongs to Tier 2 Class A right?

ko888 said:
saib1 said:
What about Antec Neo Eco 620C Bronze?? In which tier does it stand?


It's based on the Seasonic S12II-620 Bronze platform.




Yes. It's a quality unit.
September 17, 2014 11:39:44 AM

Good Enough..coz luckily i have one..and im hoping that it'll able to handle an AMD R9 280X along with AMD FX 8350..!!

anort3 said:
saib1 said:
That means it belongs to Tier 2 Class A right?

ko888 said:
saib1 said:
What about Antec Neo Eco 620C Bronze?? In which tier does it stand?


It's based on the Seasonic S12II-620 Bronze platform.




Yes. It's a quality unit.


a c 273 ) Power supply
September 17, 2014 11:50:32 AM

It's fine for a system with a 280X. Plenty of power.
September 17, 2014 12:28:26 PM

Thanx alot for a quick reply..i've been hitting head over the posts regarding the Power Requirements of 280X but wasnt quite satisfied with the answers, but you sir, finally cleared my confusion and luckily..i found MSI R9 280X that mentioned that their powered 280X requires 500W PSU unlike the Sapphire website which claims that their one requires 750W..:heink: ..this jus made my miserable..lol..but thank you..:) 

anort3 said:
It's fine for a system with a 280X. Plenty of power.


September 17, 2014 2:53:10 PM

So Utra's X Connect is riding the sled out to the garbage can.. . shame. It's the first psu I've used with modular connections. Maybe that's all worth saying about it. Since I now believe 8 years ago, the 550 watter killed my big Pentium 3. But after replacing the motherboard, I shoved a Basiq 500 in and that unit killed itself. Didn't even borrow my gun. But I also notice this Sapphire R9 280x saibe1 mentioned and I though, how the heck did this 280x gain the need of 100 extra watts? I was interested in purchasing the card when I noticed the 750w power requirement. So thanks for the heads up, anort3
a c 273 ) Power supply
September 17, 2014 5:35:18 PM

Ultra is a prime example of good marketing. Tiger Direct marketed the hell out of them and their patent on modular cables. At the time when the original X Connect was released in the early - mid 2000s sites popped up all over the place purporting to be review sites. They would unbox the unit and be oohing and aahing about how shiny they were and how well they worked without ever putting them on a scope much less on a load tester. Turns out they were pure junk. Well the X3 and X4 were rated decently but both are discontinued and the OEM was Andyson on both. Not a name that inspires confidence no matter how well they did in testing. A brand to avoid.
a c 273 ) Power supply
September 17, 2014 5:46:03 PM

Oh and on the 280X. Although it is just a rebranded 7970 the 280X has the potential to pull a full 300 watts by itself in certain synthetic circumstances. I believe Furmark was the only way that happened and both Nvidia and AMD call Furmark a heat virus so it shouldn't happen in real world circumstances. But if it could pull 300 watts in Furmark it is just a single bad driver away from pulling 300 watts in say Crysis 3 or a similarly demanding game. That's why RealhardtechX recommends a 600w unit for the 280X and a 550w unit for the 7970. We all know both AMD and Nvidia have both released some really bad drivers in the past.
September 17, 2014 6:47:55 PM

In Reviews..the whole system excluding GFX with AMD FX 8350 all other components including takes around 250W and that too with all the 8 Cores on full loads..that isnt going to happen while Gaming or doing Normal operations on the PC..so if that so..still 250+300(GPU's Bad Driver or Furmark Case)=550W..and thats the worst case scenerio...right?

anort3 said:
Oh and on the 280X. Although it is just a rebranded 7970 the 280X has the potential to pull a full 300 watts by itself in certain synthetic circumstances. I believe Furmark was the only way that happened and both Nvidia and AMD call Furmark a heat virus so it shouldn't happen in real world circumstances. But if it could pull 300 watts in Furmark it is just a single bad driver away from pulling 300 watts in say Crysis 3 or a similarly demanding game. That's why RealhardtechX recommends a 600w unit for the 280X and a 550w unit for the 7970. We all know both AMD and Nvidia have both released some really bad drivers in the past.


a c 273 ) Power supply
September 17, 2014 7:19:26 PM

Yep.
September 17, 2014 8:07:40 PM

Alryt..then we can take a chance..;)..and if in case i experience some crashes & all...then ill straightway pick up a Seasonic MK12II 850W..but it'll take a while to get some funds after buyin a Badass GFX lately..-_-..Oh well..

anort3 said:
Yep.


September 18, 2014 12:47:45 AM

Hmm. My mouth is watering for that 280X now. That Sapphire Vapor-X has new appeal. Lol. 2 years ago, I bought a HD7950 thinking it would last 3 or 4 years and I had to continuously look for ways to keep up with the BattleField crowd.
OC'd it to it's limits, modified the cooling sytem with water, air dams and fans. Well, thanks to a bad Corsair RM750 it can rest it's tired circuits peacefully beside it. Poking around on the internet, I found a XFX 750 BE quietly sitting with idle hands. I'm no dream employer but I can promise a nice UPS hook-up. In a sense I gained a bit from this thread, and tommorrow, I 'll be the owner of a Sapphire Vapor-X. Thank you kindly, anort3 and dottorrent. This has been a good and excellent thread.
a c 273 ) Power supply
September 18, 2014 1:00:49 AM

You are very welcome. Glad to help! :) 

You know the GTX 970 is being released very soon. I have seen rumors it's going to cause quite a shakeup and be priced at $299 while being faster than a GTX 780/R9 290. Might be a good idea to wait a few days before buying a card!
a b ) Power supply
September 18, 2014 1:42:32 AM

As above, it's probs a good idea to wait a few days, even if you still go for the 280x, it's always nice to see what new cards are to be released. After all, you wouldn't wanna get a 280x, then find nvidia have a faster, cheaper card coming.
September 18, 2014 2:58:27 AM

anort3 said:
You are very welcome. Glad to help! :) 

You know the GTX 970 is being released very soon. I have seen rumors it's going to cause quite a shakeup and be priced at $299 while being faster than a GTX 780/R9 290. Might be a good idea to wait a few days before buying a card!

Ooouu. I hate leaving miss Sussie with burgers and fries at the front door but if miss Right knocks at the back door with a steak on her plate, I'll have to leave with her.
September 19, 2014 4:29:30 PM

Battling back and forth between the Rosewill Capstone 550W,XFX 550W and the Antec you guys just posted above. I think they are all in the same tier but Rosewill seems to have some concerns. Any advice?
September 19, 2014 4:41:49 PM

anort3 said:
You are very welcome. Glad to help! :) 

You know the GTX 970 is being released very soon. I have seen rumors it's going to cause quite a shakeup and be priced at $299 while being faster than a GTX 780/R9 290. Might be a good idea to wait a few days before buying a card!

Nice tip. I wasn't aware Nvidia was planning any kind of launch date. I just pre ordered 2 GTX 970s from Amazon today.

http://www.amazon.com/b?node=10052256011

Thanks again! Lol.
a b ) Power supply
September 19, 2014 5:08:04 PM

ImDaBaron said:
Battling back and forth between the Rosewill Capstone 550W,XFX 550W and the Antec you guys just posted above. I think they are all in the same tier but Rosewill seems to have some concerns. Any advice?


The Rosewill unit is based on the Super Flower Golden Green platform. Super Flower are among the best for the budget user.
September 19, 2014 5:10:00 PM

dottorrent said:
ImDaBaron said:
Battling back and forth between the Rosewill Capstone 550W,XFX 550W and the Antec you guys just posted above. I think they are all in the same tier but Rosewill seems to have some concerns. Any advice?


The Rosewill unit is based on the Super Flower Golden Green platform. Super Flower are among the best for the budget user.


Ok good...out of that group which one would you go with if you dont mind me asking?
a b ) Power supply
September 19, 2014 5:54:53 PM

Whichever one is cheapest, though XFX offer a 5 year warranty with their Power Supplies.
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