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September 19, 2013 8:24:24 AM

Hi everyone,

My setup:
Phenom 9500 2.2 ghz
4GB ddr2 800
nvidia engt240 1gb ddr3
Asus m3n78-vm, am2+
thermaltake 450w psu


I recently upgraded my GPU to a PowerColor radeon hd 7770 1gb ddr5 for in the hopes of improving my gaming performance. I think I may have bottlenecked my gpu seeing as there was no real increase in performance.

I am on a budget to upgrade my setup until I build a new rig. I want to buy an athlon ii x3 450 3.2ghz. would this get rid of the bottleneck? also would my ddr2 800 ram cause any bottlenecking?

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September 26, 2013 9:26:39 PM

Upgrade everything you have an outdated build.
September 27, 2013 5:19:06 AM

I know, my build is about five years old now. My motherboard supprts the phenom ii line up to the x4 955, would it be worth spending 100-150$ for a used phenom ii?

thanks for the help.
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September 27, 2013 5:39:36 AM

They both seem to be on backorder/ out of stock. I just can't decide between selling my build for parts on ebay or trying to keep it going. I have the money for a new build.

my plan is to build this: (price 755$)
intel core i5 3570k
asus P8Z77-V LK
Corsair Vengeance 8GB ddr3 1600
Corsair CX600W PSU
Cooler Master HAF 932
(I'll keep my Radeon HD 7770 1gb ddr5 for now)



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September 27, 2013 6:54:34 AM

That would be quite the upgrade over what you have now. The 7770 isn't a great GPU, but it is fairly decent.
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September 27, 2013 9:55:26 PM

That is a good upgrade.
September 28, 2013 5:03:55 PM

Ok so I'm still looking for a cheap processor as a replacement that would keep me able to run my games on medium at 1680x1050 at 30-40 fps. The phenom II 955 and 965 sell for about 120$ in the ebay auctions.

Would it be worth spending that amount on a used processor. Also if I got an aftermarket cooler and overclocked it, would my computer suffice for another 2 years to run games like Crysis 2, Crysis 3, Mass Effect 2, Mass Effect 3 and Dead Space 3. I'm not looking for ultra high, just playable frame-rates with decent graphics.

edit: if I got a 955, what would be the best gpu I could get without it being bottlenecked by the processor and the ddr2 800mhz memory?

I also have an MSI 970S-g54 motherboard that supports up to the phenom ii's and ddr3 ram. Whats my best upgrade option with all this?
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September 28, 2013 7:42:56 PM

These things are too old, you need a newer setup.
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September 28, 2013 7:55:13 PM

To run any of the games you listed at good setting you are gonna need a better gpu first off. 7850/650Ti Boost are good cards to start with. if you can find a 955 and clock it well that will help as PhII 965 are still regarded as solid gaming CPU's. I wouldn't invest over $120 for CPU and cooler. If more I would just consider a new build
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September 28, 2013 9:26:38 PM

MAybe an intel G2120, AMD fx-6300, or intel i3-3220.
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September 28, 2013 9:26:42 PM

MAybe an intel G2120, AMD fx-6300, or intel i3-3220.
October 4, 2013 12:55:58 PM

Thanks for the replies, I am thinking of an fx 6300 build since I am on a budget with a 660Ti card
October 4, 2013 1:11:36 PM

Case: NZXT Tempest 210 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $45.99
Mobo: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 AM3+ http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $89.99
CPU: AMD fx 6300 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $124.99
Cooler Master EVO 212 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683... $30.99
Graphics: MSI GTX 660 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... 229.99
RAM: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682... $71.49
PSU: Antec HCG M Series HCG-620M 620W http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $79.99
HDD: WD caviar blue 1TB http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682... $64.99

Total: $738.42

Thoughts:
I want my computer to last me for atleast 5 years. I am not a hardcore gamer but i play games a few hours per week. You can see that I have stuck it out with a phenom 9500 for this long so I'll probably only upgrade something in three years or so.

October 4, 2013 1:16:07 PM

cmi86 said:
To run any of the games you listed at good setting you are gonna need a better gpu first off. 7850/650Ti Boost are good cards to start with. if you can find a 955 and clock it well that will help as PhII 965 are still regarded as solid gaming CPU's. I wouldn't invest over $120 for CPU and cooler. If more I would just consider a new build


I agree with you on the phenom ii's, they still seem to be in high demand on ebay. the used one's have been going for more than 100$ everytime. Aside from that they're pretty much completely discontinued.
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October 7, 2013 6:56:04 AM

rmth said:
Case: NZXT Tempest 210 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $45.99
Mobo: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 AM3+ http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $89.99
CPU: AMD fx 6300 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $124.99
Cooler Master EVO 212 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683... $30.99
Graphics: MSI GTX 660 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... 229.99
RAM: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682... $71.49
PSU: Antec HCG M Series HCG-620M 620W http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $79.99
HDD: WD caviar blue 1TB http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682... $64.99

Total: $738.42

Thoughts:
I want my computer to last me for atleast 5 years. I am not a hardcore gamer but i play games a few hours per week. You can see that I have stuck it out with a phenom 9500 for this long so I'll probably only upgrade something in three years or so.



Overall, it looks pretty good. I would hold off on GPU though. AMD's new cards will be releasing soon. Otherwise, I would say bump up to a 7950 for a few dollars more.
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October 7, 2013 5:50:24 PM

logainofhades said:
rmth said:
Case: NZXT Tempest 210 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $45.99
Mobo: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 AM3+ http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $89.99
CPU: AMD fx 6300 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $124.99
Cooler Master EVO 212 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683... $30.99
Graphics: MSI GTX 660 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... 229.99
RAM: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682... $71.49
PSU: Antec HCG M Series HCG-620M 620W http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $79.99
HDD: WD caviar blue 1TB http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682... $64.99

Total: $738.42

Thoughts:
I want my computer to last me for atleast 5 years. I am not a hardcore gamer but i play games a few hours per week. You can see that I have stuck it out with a phenom 9500 for this long so I'll probably only upgrade something in three years or so.



Overall, it looks pretty good. I would hold off on GPU though. AMD's new cards will be releasing soon. Otherwise, I would say bump up to a 7950 for a few dollars more.


Or you could opt for a 760 which is amazing for the price.
October 8, 2013 11:04:05 AM

True, hopefully the new radeon 9000 series isn't too expensive. I would go up to 400$ for a futureproof card. I was planning to wait for the newegg black friday sales in November so hopefully by then the r9 will have some benchmarks out and the price of the r7000 and gtx700 cards should drop right?

the 7950 and the gtx 760 look similarly priced so I'm not sure which one would be better. I usually play games on a single monitor so I don't think I'll need SLI/crossfire.


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October 9, 2013 9:44:26 PM

rmth said:
True, hopefully the new radeon 9000 series isn't too expensive. I would go up to 400$ for a futureproof card. I was planning to wait for the newegg black friday sales in November so hopefully by then the r9 will have some benchmarks out and the price of the r7000 and gtx700 cards should drop right?

the 7950 and the gtx 760 look similarly priced so I'm not sure which one would be better. I usually play games on a single monitor so I don't think I'll need SLI/crossfire.



The 760 is amazing and better than a 7950. You don't need to wait for the r9/r7 series. The gpuboost on 760 is nice and the drivers are amazing especcially if you get the MSI. The 760 is your card man.
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