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Valve Applies for Half-Life 3 Trademark

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October 2, 2013 6:44:51 AM

Meh, most overrated FPS series ever. Still good, but one good game among many. I'll be looking forward to it, but I hope it doesn't get an undue number of headlines.
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October 2, 2013 6:47:35 AM

CONGRATULATIONS EVERYONE!!!!

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October 2, 2013 6:58:04 AM

dont make it like a failure CS:GO
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October 2, 2013 7:02:37 AM

How is CS:GO a failure? ??
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October 2, 2013 7:03:51 AM

+1 to stevejb. I love Half-Life, but it definitely is overly hyped. Anyway, as of right now I'm just looking forward to the full release of Black Mesa on Steam.
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October 2, 2013 7:12:02 AM

My PC is ready.
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October 2, 2013 7:14:16 AM

Half life who? Yes it has been that long. There are grown kids now that will look at you crazy if you speak of HL or HL2 because it has been that long.
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October 2, 2013 7:23:34 AM

I own every Steam game... so I think it's safe to say I will own these games too.
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October 2, 2013 7:41:26 AM

Christiaan Lourens said:
I own every Steam game... so I think it's safe to say I will own these games too.


Wow that's a big library. Or do you mean Valve?
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October 2, 2013 8:14:44 AM

i hope it rocks! i enjoyed the series, now 3 is next (hopefully)
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October 2, 2013 8:20:59 AM

I read the title of this story and I swear I made the exact same noise as a little girl receiving a pony.
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October 2, 2013 8:37:02 AM

How is the Half Life series over-hyped? I suppose your the kind of gamer that actually thinks the Call of Duty games are good. Or maybe Halo... Half-Life helped define a genre and sparked the idea that games could be customized and lead to mods and other leading titles like CounterStrike, Team Fortress and Day of Defeat. Half Life 2 was and still is considered one of the greatest games of all time. A milestone in gaming history marking a great leap forward in storytelling, graphics and technology. Half Life is a series that I've grown up with. Yes I've played other series and had the change to like other titles; The Mass Effect Triology comes to mind. But there's something about Half-Life that will keep fans like me coming back for more. Something about Half-Life, the look, the feel, the story, the environment. That's what makes a good game. That's not over-hyped. If I can grow from being a child in 6th grade to a 21 year old man, that still even today, enjoys a good play through of Half Life 2 and gets excited for Half Life 3; then Valve has done something right. Something golden. That's what makes a great game.
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October 2, 2013 8:54:31 AM

enough said silent ricochet !
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October 2, 2013 9:15:38 AM

Wow some HL3 news finally. But lets hope if they do go open world that they don't make this a online only game that you have to be in a world with tweens & teens that have no clue how to actually play these types of games. This needs to have a single player feel to it. But if we decide we want to go online with it let us decide that. The last games story is made for single player because thats just how the story works for those. If they change it up to much the series will ends as hardcore HL fans will walk away from it.
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October 2, 2013 9:18:45 AM

I guess most ppl who said overhyped must be the teens who never play Half-Life or even know what it is Half-Life. In their head they can think was "call of duty define everything" If it wasn't Half Life, Doom and other FPS games, You wouldn't even have Call Of Duty
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October 2, 2013 9:19:57 AM

Silent, I agree that Half-Life 1 and 2 were great games. I also agree that the engines, at least, were important for the development of gaming, though I do find it a bit funny that people give the games credit for things that were done with the engine. Oddly, you don't see Unreal Tournament the getting credit for what has been done with the Unreal Engine, or Quake, but the Half-Life games are *constantly* credited with things that modders did with the engine. Great games, but overrated because we've got grown men apparently makings sounds like little girls getting ponies and ridiculous crap like that when the domain name is even mentioned. There are loads of good games, and even a lot of other GREAT games, that people just sort of brush past, but these ones are special. Some thoughts on why...

You insinuate that I'm just one of those young CoD whipper snappers who doesn't know a good FPS from a hole in the ground, but the irony of this is that, between some of your claims as to what Half-Life did and your jump to throw insults at me, even if you hadn't dated yourself I'd have guessed you were quite a bit younger than me and hadn't been gaming nearly as long. I'm guessing you don't realize that Duke 3D had a far more flexible engine than Half-Life did years before, and the things which the 3DRealms fanatics did with it easily rivaled what was done with the Half-Life engine for destructibility and scope? And did you realize that Quake had an active modding community well before Half-Life was released - and yet you attribute Half-Life with having "sparked the idea that games could be customized and lead to mods and other." Just sentimental nonsense giving it kudos which it simply doesn't deserve. And I'm guessing you also didn't know that Team Fortress was a Quake mod before Half-Life was even released, yet you listed this as one of Half-Life's big accomplishments?

This is the OoT effect. I'm guessing you're familiar with Legends of Zelda: The Ocarina of Time? THAT is the game most widely considered to be the "greatest game of all time" I'm sorry to say. Don't agree with it, perhaps? Pity for you - since you've already cited some sort of consensus to say that "Half Life 2 was and still is considered one of the greatest games of all time" and more people consider OoT to be the best. The thing is, when you get these popular games that were the big things when someone was a little kid, they are almost always looked at through rose coloured glasses and all of the sudden they're leaping tall buildings with a single bound when, in truth, they were really good games. OoT is *constantly* dubbed as the first big open world game when EQ came out on the PC before it and had larger open worlds. What's more, it is constantly credited with being the first game to include the "revolutionary" z-targeting when a host of wrestling games were doing precisely that two or three years before its release. People who loved it as a kid gloss over its flaws and load it up with accomplishments that it did not actually achieve, and then it is forever "the best game ever made" and blah blah blah.

I remember when I was first told about Half-Life, my nephew, who largely a Super Nes gamer was ranting on and on about it, telling me about how it was the very first game to do this and that and the other thing, so I tried it... And all the while I was playing it I was thinking "Uh, Duke 3D did this better two years ago." The game itself was awesome, as was the second, and I'll be getting the third very shortly after its released... But these games are the definition of overhyped, and your post is a stunning example for that overhype, heaping praise on the games for things other games did better years before.
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October 2, 2013 9:27:10 AM

You know what's REALLY ironic about a lot of you people assuming that the claim Half-Life the series is overhyped? It's because it actually kind of was the CoD of its time in some ways. A good - a great - game which everyone was so, so hyped about when there were other arguably better games around which did many of the same things it was credited with and did them first... And for many of us who actually knew about these others games we were sitting there playing in Quake's much more diverse (initially) mods and Duke3D's astounding array of player-built levels and saying "wow, look at all these teeny-boppers who don't know any better..."

Granted, I think Half-Life brought far more to the table than CoD does now, but go figure, it was busy being credited with things other games had done first and arguably better by people who didn't have a clue. Kind of reminds you of how a lot of kids are about CoD these days, eh?
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October 2, 2013 9:47:33 AM

Avoiding the totally irrelevant argument about liking or disliking HL, what strikes me as odd is that as soon as HL2 was released why they didn't put in for trademarks for HL3, 4, 5 all the way up to 20 - seeing as Final Fantasy is into the teens it makes sense to place mark for the future
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October 2, 2013 9:48:13 AM

Let's not forget that we've been through this before. Until Valve has a solid date I'm not holding my breath. But as soon as it's available for pre-order...
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October 2, 2013 9:57:46 AM

"why they didn't put in for trademarks for HL3, 4, 5 all the way up to 20"

My guess is trademarks evolve over time, and, as evidenced by this article, the act of applying for a trademark is news. :) 
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October 2, 2013 9:57:53 AM

It's about that time, 1 half-life for each generation of gamers, kind of like the original 3 star wars....
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October 2, 2013 10:07:50 AM

Except the original Star Wars trilogy came out in under 6 years while HL is going on 15+ and the 3rd hasnt even been released.
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October 2, 2013 10:23:07 AM

+1 stevejnb - one my most favorite maps for unreal tournament, was an entire open city, filled with explorable buildings, a complete sewer system, catwalks, etc etc. I remember a virtually unlimited number of choices of mods for quake/ut games. I got kicked from tons of servers for not having the right ones too, lol.

Wasn't too long ago, there was an article where we supposed what kind of game elements might be introduced to the half-life series. Please don't do quick time events =) Build it all in 4K textures, and then scale down from there. Our ISPs will just have to suck it up and push that data :) 
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October 2, 2013 10:30:09 AM

@stevejnb

I'll just say this:
The HL series are games with 0 cutscenes and yet told a great story beautifully. U have 100% player control and camera control from game start to game end and yet 90% of players do what the developers intended them to do.

As an example, i might add
MGS Ground zeroes trailer spans about 9 minutes - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltH1eWxZutE
The exact same map is finished by a developer in about 11 minutes - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtnyI4USV14
A newbie might finish in 16 minutes
Atleast 1/4th the time of the videogame is a cutscene. Are u playing a videogame or watching a movie? I'm not saying MGS is a bad game but since probably it has the longest cutscenes i choose MGS to criticize. It's the design of the HL game that is awesome. U will probably have to play the game as a game developer itself to really understand the amount of detail the game has to offer.

Half life 1 was made with GoldSrc which is a heavily modified Quake engine. Gabe Newell left Microsoft and started Valve, they needed some base to work with.
HL 2 was delayed because Source Engine leaked over the internet. And when it was released it had the best graphics technology at that time.
And the overhype is due to the fact that they left the series in a hanging position. HL2 EP2 had a great sad ending and they even told what the main objective will be in the next game of the series.

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October 2, 2013 10:46:54 AM

Chimera, I don't disagree with much of what you said. Thing is, most of what you said doesn't contradict the things I pointed out, and you openly admit that the games are overhyped. HL was a step forward in first person video game storytelling, and I daresay that's about the biggest thing one can really credit it for as a game. The engines the game were built on were centerpoints for the modding community, but as several people have shown to be ignorant of, it was *far* from the start of the modding community.

I hope Half-Life 3 is as good as Half-Life 2 was, because it was a ride and a half. The first game was great - up until you got to the alien planet, then it was kinda meh. Also, there is always the Duke Nukem Forever effect to worry about... But one can hope Half-Life 3 is a Metroid Prime rather than a DNF, as far as popular series with long-term no-shows on it go.
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October 2, 2013 10:49:27 AM

I guess most ppl who said overhyped must be the teens who never play Half-Life or even know what it is Half-Life. In their head they can think was "call of duty define everything" If it wasn't Half Life, Doom and other FPS games, You wouldn't even have Call Of Duty
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October 2, 2013 11:43:18 AM

The textile industry received a bump from a mysterious 1-day spike in the purchase on new pants. Analysts are baffled.

Incidentally, the announcement of application for a HL3 trademark in the european union is some of the finest trolling I've ever seen.
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October 2, 2013 11:43:37 AM

The textile industry received a bump from a mysterious 1-day spike in the purchase on new pants. Analysts are baffled.

Incidentally, the announcement of application for a HL3 trademark in the european union is some of the finest trolling I've ever seen.
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October 2, 2013 11:44:20 AM

The textile industry received a bump from a mysterious 1-day spike in the purchase on new pants. Analysts are baffled.

Incidentally, the announcement of application for a HL3 trademark in the european union is some of the finest trolling I've ever seen.
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October 2, 2013 12:02:52 PM

Before today, I had never played Half-Life. I wanted to see how got it was for myself, plus I also wanted an opportunity to test Steam on Linux in Big Picture mode with a controller so I installed Half-Life 2 today. I am rarely impressed by games that most people hype so I expected to be disappointed, especially since the game was made in 2004.

I've been playing for around and hour and a half and I have to say I'm impressed. The story is above average, especially considering when it was made. Graphics are dated but that's expected. I love the lack of map, the minimalist interface, and the lack of mission logs. I'll report more later, but this game is very good. I love games where the player isn't treated like a 5 year old on an iPad, but then again I'm a fan of old school Ultima Online.

As for Steam big picture, it's good. Works great with a controller and would be fine for a console interface. Better than what is currently on the 360 for sure. When I was playing I was actually thinking about how I would like to have a low end Steam box to stream this to my 55" living room TV.
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October 2, 2013 12:50:19 PM

Eh, I think this is more of a trolling expedition than anything meaningful. Wouldn't they already have the "Half Life" moniker trademarked? And thus, anything falling under it? Though I could not be understanding trademark law properly.
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October 2, 2013 1:06:26 PM

Ok, I've been reading Tom's for years and this might be my 2nd post but I feel strong enough about this to comment. Let me preface my comments with letting it be known that I'm 44 years old and I didn't grow up with Half LIfe 2. However, the story is incredible and it never gets old. In fact, I'm playing through it now and I never get tired of it. I play through it every 2 years or so and even though I know what's happening and now whats coming up, the challenge is still fun. It's a fantastic game and I hope HL3 does come out and if it does I will be first in line to buy it.
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October 2, 2013 1:07:41 PM

Eh, I think this is more of a trolling expedition than anything meaningful. Wouldn't they already have the "Half Life" moniker trademarked? And thus, anything falling under it? Though I could not be understanding trademark law properly.
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October 2, 2013 1:39:38 PM

when it comes to graphics, while i do prefer Half life2 and source graphics, it was still beat by far cry.

remember that glorious game?
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October 2, 2013 6:16:27 PM

I think it will a lot more interesting to see the things Valve has done with the Source 2 engine. And then, we'll see what there is for story in Half Life 3.
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October 2, 2013 6:17:48 PM

So much praise for the Half Life series... I guess I'm just too old school. While people were into stories and puzzles with crappy slow rocket launchers I was more into kicking ass in Quake World Rocket Arena. I always felt like HL was more of a Quake mod sort of like Action Quake or something...
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October 2, 2013 6:25:22 PM

Also I get irritated when people dis COD... again the old school me thinks of when the original COD came out and how awesome it was. Instant classic for LAN parties.. the sound of shooting someone's helmet as they popped up for a look. It totally sucks ass that COD is only known for shitty consoles now.. sad
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October 2, 2013 9:15:35 PM

It will be titled Half Life 3: Forever?
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October 3, 2013 12:00:15 AM

blubbey said:
Christiaan Lourens said:
I own every Steam game... so I think it's safe to say I will own these games too.


Wow that's a big library. Or do you mean Valve?


I meant it as a joke :p  (I wish I ahd enough HDD's for all of that, not to mention the money) but indeed I have every Vavle game
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October 3, 2013 3:50:46 PM

dimar said:
It will be titled Half Life 3: Forever?

Half-Life 3: "Infinite"...it's what all the cool kids call their games today.
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October 3, 2013 11:23:51 PM

radiovan said:
dimar said:
It will be titled Half Life 3: Forever?

Half-Life 3: "Infinite"...it's what all the cool kids call their games today.


When we were cool kids we use to say to infinity & beyond ...
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