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theiDunnotouch
October 3, 2013 7:36:34 PM
Hi guys,
I'm building a gaming pc on a budget but I am willing to invest a lot on the graphics card cause I'm trying to make this pc also a little future-proof so I looked up some graphics cards and found the GTX Titan and the GTX 690. BTW I'll be playing on a big tv screen and when not on that I'll be playing on 4 monitors (1080p). I'd like to run these games on the highest settings possible.
I already asked google and looked up some benchmarks but some show higher fps on the Titan and some are higher with the 690 so yeah... I'm confused. I want to avoid SLI as much as possible since GTA IV is not really compatible with it as some other games are. Can u also recommend a good water cooler? Socket is lga 1150
Here are my specs
Intel core i5 3.4gh/z 4770k (Haswell)
Corsair Vengeance 16gb (8x2)
Coolermaster HAF XM
Kingston 64gb SSD
Seagate Barracuda 1tb (I will buy 3 of these so 3tb total)
Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit
ASrock Z87 Extreme4 LGA 1150
Graphics card is still to be decided
I'm building a gaming pc on a budget but I am willing to invest a lot on the graphics card cause I'm trying to make this pc also a little future-proof so I looked up some graphics cards and found the GTX Titan and the GTX 690. BTW I'll be playing on a big tv screen and when not on that I'll be playing on 4 monitors (1080p). I'd like to run these games on the highest settings possible.
I already asked google and looked up some benchmarks but some show higher fps on the Titan and some are higher with the 690 so yeah... I'm confused. I want to avoid SLI as much as possible since GTA IV is not really compatible with it as some other games are. Can u also recommend a good water cooler? Socket is lga 1150
Here are my specs
Intel core i5 3.4gh/z 4770k (Haswell)
Corsair Vengeance 16gb (8x2)
Coolermaster HAF XM
Kingston 64gb SSD
Seagate Barracuda 1tb (I will buy 3 of these so 3tb total)
Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit
ASrock Z87 Extreme4 LGA 1150
Graphics card is still to be decided
More about : gtx 690 gtx titan
Well if you want to stay away from SLI don't get a 690, it is 2 GPUs on one PCB. Most people will tell you that a Titan is a waste of money because a 780 is so close to the performance for a lot less. So if 5%-15% performance increase is worth the $350 more, get a Titan... If not, get a 780 and overclock it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I like the Corsair lines of closed loop water coolers. I have used both of these in builds and they work great. If you have the room for 240mm and the cash, it will perform a little better.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I like the Corsair lines of closed loop water coolers. I have used both of these in builds and they work great. If you have the room for 240mm and the cash, it will perform a little better.
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theiDunnotouch
October 4, 2013 2:09:44 AM
mike69k said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I like the Corsair lines of closed loop water coolers. I have used both of these in builds and they work great. If you have the room for 240mm and the cash, it will perform a little better.
First of all, thanks for replying,
I am in fact getting a 780 for half the price because the titan's price is ridiculous. If I do overclock the 780 I'm gonna need some 3rd party cooling system also for the graphics card. (like the cpu, you need a more powerful cooler) If a cooler is necessary which one do you recommend?
My final specs
ASrock Z87 extreme4
Corsair Vengeance (8x2) 16gb
Coolermaster HAF XM
Kingston 64gb SSD
Seagate Barracuda 1tb (3pcs so total of 3tb)
Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit
GTX 780
Are all these parts compatible with one another?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
These are three graphics cards with great cooling solutions. These are all overclocked, and should have room to be overclocked more. What Power supply are you getting?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
These are three graphics cards with great cooling solutions. These are all overclocked, and should have room to be overclocked more. What Power supply are you getting?
theiDunnotouch
October 4, 2013 9:08:25 PM
mike69k said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
These are three graphics cards with great cooling solutions. These are all overclocked, and should have room to be overclocked more. What Power supply are you getting?
My power supply will be the Corsair AX750. I'll be getting a gtx 780 but not msi cause I don't have access to that. I live in China so I found a good Taiwaneese brand
Link: http://www.amazon.cn/gp/product/B00EK4Q0B0/ref=ox_sc_ac...
It's Leadtek brand. Do you recon it's overclockable?
This card has an aftermarket cooler, a better (non reference board), better mosfets and top of the line super alloy capacitors. It is cooler, faster, and quieter than the reference design. It also has a lot of overclock headroom. I would spend the money and get the best GTX 780 you can,
http://www.amazon.cn/Asus-%E5%8D%8E%E7%A1%95-GTX780-DC2...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3YjEqwJMD4
http://www.amazon.cn/Asus-%E5%8D%8E%E7%A1%95-GTX780-DC2...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3YjEqwJMD4
cookybiscuit said:
The reference card is fine if you don't have access to an aftermarket one, they aren't binned any worse, and for a blower style cooler its performance is excellent.The card I listed is a better card though. The GPU may be binned the same but the ASUS card has a 10-phase power design, 5k rated capacitors, better chokes, better VRM heatsink, etc.
cookybiscuit said:
None of which makes an ounce of difference unless you are running your card on LN2 and going for the world record 3D Mark score, Nvidia don't make crap reference cards. The benefit of the cooler is undeniable though, it will be considerably quieter than the reference design.It does make a difference. You can get much more stable overclocks. This particular Asus card is known for being a great overclocker. Also using those parts leads to lower vram temps and less ambient heat from the PCB components. The reference boards for the 780 are not slouches. But the improved board, is... well... an improvement.
theiDunnotouch
October 5, 2013 1:09:56 AM
mike69k said:
cookybiscuit said:
None of which makes an ounce of difference unless you are running your card on LN2 and going for the world record 3D Mark score, Nvidia don't make crap reference cards. The benefit of the cooler is undeniable though, it will be considerably quieter than the reference design.It does make a difference. You can get much more stable overclocks. This particular Asus card is known for being a great overclocker. Also using those parts leads to lower vram temps and less ambient heat from the PCB components. The reference boards for the 780 are not slouches. But the improved board, is... well... an improvement.
Thanks everybody for replying.
Unfortunately there is the Asus version of the gtx 780 and I was planning to overclock, however that Asus version doesn't support cash on delivery payment and in China it's hard to understand since you must have an account just for buying online and my parents don't want to put very confindential information on the net even if it's secure u never know. I disagree but I can't decide on that.
You must consider though that my case (coolermaster haf xm is a big hole, I'm going to install:
x4 200mm fans
x1 140mm fan
x2 120mm fans
and Noctua DH-14 not that it's relevant to the gpu but yeah..
Considering that there's a 200mm fan right under the graphics card, should i overclock i shouldn't have any heat problems even if the gpu heatsink is not the best
theiDunnotouch
October 5, 2013 4:57:37 AM
mike69k said:
The reference cooler works well. You shouldn't have any overheating issues. Just use a program like MSI Afterburner EVGA Precision and monitor your temps to see if there are any heat issues. But I doubt there will be, especially with that case. Happy gaming.A little more advice please.
I've heard on youtube and on some other discussions and websites that ASrock motherboards are cheap and bad quality, some people said they burned, didn't boot and had to RMA them.
I'd rather spend 50$ and get a decent ASUS motherboard
which Asus motherboard is good for gaming (not too expensive) and has some good overclocking options?
If you have the money I recommend this motherboard. I personally own the z77 version of this and I love it.
http://www.amazon.cn/MSI-%E5%BE%AE%E6%98%9F-Z87-MPOWER-...
Not trying to be a huge MSI fan here but if you want to spend less money I would go with this one.
http://www.amazon.cn/MSI-%E5%BE%AE%E6%98%9F-Z87-G45-GAM...
I would not personally get an ASrock motherboard. Generally speaking I like motherboards made by ASUS, MSI, and Gigabyte. If those two that I listed don't support cash on delivery payment, why don't you post one you like that does on here. Me or someone else will help you decide.
http://www.amazon.cn/MSI-%E5%BE%AE%E6%98%9F-Z87-MPOWER-...
Not trying to be a huge MSI fan here but if you want to spend less money I would go with this one.
http://www.amazon.cn/MSI-%E5%BE%AE%E6%98%9F-Z87-G45-GAM...
I would not personally get an ASrock motherboard. Generally speaking I like motherboards made by ASUS, MSI, and Gigabyte. If those two that I listed don't support cash on delivery payment, why don't you post one you like that does on here. Me or someone else will help you decide.
theiDunnotouch
October 5, 2013 6:34:41 AM
mike69k said:
If you have the money I recommend this motherboard. I personally own the z77 version of this and I love it. http://www.amazon.cn/MSI-%E5%BE%AE%E6%98%9F-Z87-MPOWER-...
Not trying to be a huge MSI fan here but if you want to spend less money I would go with this one.
http://www.amazon.cn/MSI-%E5%BE%AE%E6%98%9F-Z87-G45-GAM...
I would not personally get an ASrock motherboard. Generally speaking I like motherboards made by ASUS, MSI, and Gigabyte. If those two that I listed don't support cash on delivery payment, why don't you post one you like that does on here. Me or someone else will help you decide.
I really like Asus and my dad also recommends them since he has worked with them and they never failed him once, however that was back in the 1990s-2000 so the quality must've changed between then and end of 2013
Do you think I should swap to a Gigabyte and a crossfire configuration so like an hd 7970 gpu?
Gigabyte here in China is cheaper and yes both two those motherboards don't support cash.
so yeah should I just swap to gigabyte and a Radeon gpu? or can you recommend a good budget Asus motherboard?
Sorry for being such a pain with this whole cash on delivery thing....
thanks everyone for their support.
GA-Z87X-UD4H, GA-Z87X-UD3H, or GA-Z87X-D3H would be the three Gigabyte boards I would recommend.
Z87-PLUS, Z87-PRO, or ASUS Z87-A would be the three ASUS boards I would recommend.
The 780 is more powerful than the 7970GHz. But the 7970GHz is much cheaper. here is a review with benchmarks. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-780-per...
I would not crossfire 7970's personally because crossfire still has issues. It is getting better all the time, but directX 9 games suffer and there is micro-stuttering in some games. With that being said, if a game does have issues you can always turn off crossfire for that game.
Z87-PLUS, Z87-PRO, or ASUS Z87-A would be the three ASUS boards I would recommend.
The 780 is more powerful than the 7970GHz. But the 7970GHz is much cheaper. here is a review with benchmarks. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-780-per...
I would not crossfire 7970's personally because crossfire still has issues. It is getting better all the time, but directX 9 games suffer and there is micro-stuttering in some games. With that being said, if a game does have issues you can always turn off crossfire for that game.
theiDunnotouch
October 5, 2013 7:15:30 PM
sorry for slow answers (different time zones)
btw I found another good gtx 780 card from gigabyte on chinese amazon that supports cash on delivery (yay!!) here's the link to it:
http://www.amazon.cn/GIGABYTE-%E6%8A%80%E5%98%89-GV-N78...
sr=8-4&keywords=gtx+780
Do you think this one is more overclock-friendly, considering it's from Gigabyte it should also be superior to the one I mentioned before.
So here's the deal:
Either get 2 hd 7970 in Crossfire and turn off crossfire with games that don't support it
Or get that Gigabyte GTX 780 and overclock it
Or get 2 GTX 770 (2gb) SLI and overclock those
Or get a hd 7990 and end it here.
Some of them don't support cash which means I'll go and get them from some retailer...
I think the best would be to get that Gigabyte GTX 780 and overclock it as far as it can go.
I'll try to spend less in other parts and try to get 2 and overclock both and SLI them.
What do you think?
P.s. Do this Corsair AX750 come with the cables connected to the power supply or do I have to connect them (e.g. Seasonic power supplies: the cables are not connected into the power supply already
What do you think about this motherboard? can it overclock and is it solid since I will be mounting a DH-14 heatsink
http://www.amazon.cn/gp/product/B00DDGWJZM/ref=ox_sc_sf...
Thank you
btw I found another good gtx 780 card from gigabyte on chinese amazon that supports cash on delivery (yay!!) here's the link to it:
http://www.amazon.cn/GIGABYTE-%E6%8A%80%E5%98%89-GV-N78...
sr=8-4&keywords=gtx+780
Do you think this one is more overclock-friendly, considering it's from Gigabyte it should also be superior to the one I mentioned before.
So here's the deal:
Either get 2 hd 7970 in Crossfire and turn off crossfire with games that don't support it
Or get that Gigabyte GTX 780 and overclock it
Or get 2 GTX 770 (2gb) SLI and overclock those
Or get a hd 7990 and end it here.
Some of them don't support cash which means I'll go and get them from some retailer...
I think the best would be to get that Gigabyte GTX 780 and overclock it as far as it can go.
I'll try to spend less in other parts and try to get 2 and overclock both and SLI them.
What do you think?
P.s. Do this Corsair AX750 come with the cables connected to the power supply or do I have to connect them (e.g. Seasonic power supplies: the cables are not connected into the power supply already
What do you think about this motherboard? can it overclock and is it solid since I will be mounting a DH-14 heatsink
http://www.amazon.cn/gp/product/B00DDGWJZM/ref=ox_sc_sf...
Thank you
theiDunnotouch
October 5, 2013 7:30:28 PM
can you also assure me that the Noctua DH-14 is compatible with LGA 1150 socket, cause it doesn't metion it... some people say it fits some don't so yeah...
and is 16gb RAM overkill for gaming? cause with the money i save from that I could afford another gtx 780 and SLI it with my other one. If i only had 8gb RAM would it bottleneck my system?
and is 16gb RAM overkill for gaming? cause with the money i save from that I could afford another gtx 780 and SLI it with my other one. If i only had 8gb RAM would it bottleneck my system?
A lot of things to cover...
http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=compatibility_gen&pr... you can check the motherboard you choose. This cooler will most likely cover up 1-2 RAM slots on your motherboard. Have you thought about closed looped water cooling? You can get a corsair H80i for around the same price, or a dual 120mm H100 for a little more - it will not cover up you RAM and it will lower the temps.
The GA-Z87X-OC motherboard you listed is a great motherboard.
16GB is really overkill for gaming at the moment. You will be fine with 8GB.
The AX 750 is modular, so you will have to connect the cables to the PSU and the components. This is preferred so you don't have extra wires blocking airflow in the case, and is looks better not having wires all over the place.
If you decide to go crossfire or SLI, you will need to rethink your power supply. You will most likely need a larger one. If you go with 7970 crossfire or 770 SLI and OVERCLOCK, I would get a 850 watt power supply with strong 12v rail(s) (like the corsair AX series). You may want to look on reviews and see the SLI/Crossfire power consumption overclocked.
The gigabyte 780 will generally run cooler than a reference 780. When it comes to overclocking it really comes down to the silicon lottery with the reference and the gigabyte. As far as choosing between 7970 Crossfire., GTX 780, GTX 770 SLI , and SLI 7990, it would come down to what resolution you are playing at. A 780 will play pretty much everything at 1080p. If you have a 2560x1440/2560x1600 monitor, or a multi-monitor set up I would recommend a card(s) with at least 3GB of RAM. At this point is is going to come down to your preference...
http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=compatibility_gen&pr... you can check the motherboard you choose. This cooler will most likely cover up 1-2 RAM slots on your motherboard. Have you thought about closed looped water cooling? You can get a corsair H80i for around the same price, or a dual 120mm H100 for a little more - it will not cover up you RAM and it will lower the temps.
The GA-Z87X-OC motherboard you listed is a great motherboard.
16GB is really overkill for gaming at the moment. You will be fine with 8GB.
The AX 750 is modular, so you will have to connect the cables to the PSU and the components. This is preferred so you don't have extra wires blocking airflow in the case, and is looks better not having wires all over the place.
If you decide to go crossfire or SLI, you will need to rethink your power supply. You will most likely need a larger one. If you go with 7970 crossfire or 770 SLI and OVERCLOCK, I would get a 850 watt power supply with strong 12v rail(s) (like the corsair AX series). You may want to look on reviews and see the SLI/Crossfire power consumption overclocked.
The gigabyte 780 will generally run cooler than a reference 780. When it comes to overclocking it really comes down to the silicon lottery with the reference and the gigabyte. As far as choosing between 7970 Crossfire., GTX 780, GTX 770 SLI , and SLI 7990, it would come down to what resolution you are playing at. A 780 will play pretty much everything at 1080p. If you have a 2560x1440/2560x1600 monitor, or a multi-monitor set up I would recommend a card(s) with at least 3GB of RAM. At this point is is going to come down to your preference...
theiDunnotouch
October 6, 2013 2:08:54 AM
mike69k said:
A lot of things to cover...http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=compatibility_gen&pr... you can check the motherboard you choose. This cooler will most likely cover up 1-2 RAM slots on your motherboard. Have you thought about closed looped water cooling? You can get a corsair H80i for around the same price, or a dual 120mm H100 for a little more - it will not cover up you RAM and it will lower the temps.
The GA-Z87X-OC motherboard you listed is a great motherboard.
16GB is really overkill for gaming at the moment. You will be fine with 8GB.
The AX 750 is modular, so you will have to connect the cables to the PSU and the components. This is preferred so you don't have extra wires blocking airflow in the case, and is looks better not having wires all over the place.
If you decide to go crossfire or SLI, you will need to rethink your power supply. You will most likely need a larger one. If you go with 7970 crossfire or 770 SLI and OVERCLOCK, I would get a 850 watt power supply with strong 12v rail(s) (like the corsair AX series). You may want to look on reviews and see the SLI/Crossfire power consumption overclocked.
The gigabyte 780 will generally run cooler than a reference 780. When it comes to overclocking it really comes down to the silicon lottery with the reference and the gigabyte. As far as choosing between 7970 Crossfire., GTX 780, GTX 770 SLI , and SLI 7990, it would come down to what resolution you are playing at. A 780 will play pretty much everything at 1080p. If you have a 2560x1440/2560x1600 monitor, or a multi-monitor set up I would recommend a card(s) with at least 3GB of RAM. At this point is is going to come down to your preference...
Ok then I'll be SLI'ing two GTX 780 both overclocked as far as they can go and I've found a retail store which has all the hardware that you previously recommended so I guess I'll be getting the MSI gaming or the Z87-pro or the ga-z87x-ud4h, I'll just buy the one that uses less energy since they all basically have the same features. I'll tell you my final specs soon...
squish8294
October 6, 2013 3:23:30 AM
theiDunnotouch
October 6, 2013 4:50:26 AM
theiDunnotouch
October 6, 2013 5:04:31 AM
mike69k said:
For the 780's in SLI 850w recommend on Nvidia's site. If you are going to overclock them you will need more. What monitor are you using?I was gonna get a Seasonic: http://www.amazon.cn/gp/product/B003Y8ZFNW/ref=ox_sc_ac...
I thought this was gonna be enough, I won't buy 2 gtx 780's I'll buy 1 to start and then buy another one, so you say I'm gonna need a lot more power if I'm gonna have 2 gtx 780's. The psu calculator at thermaltake.outervision.com told me that I needed 587w for one GTX 780, it's gonna be overclocked so plus 50 is 537w plus another 50w from overclocked ram so that is 587w plus 100w from overclocked cpu 687w round that to 700w.
In future plus another gtx 780 is 250w so yeah 850w is not enough
What RAM would you recommend for overclocking (I want to push this rig as much as possible, already provided Corsair 100i for the Cpu)
So what RAM?
theiDunnotouch
October 6, 2013 5:07:45 AM
Well for lower resolutions like the 50 inch TV you don't need don't really need 2 780's, it is only 1080p. If you bought a 27-30inch 2560x1440 or 2560x1600 then you would might want to get 2 cards.
As far as RAM goes, I would get 2133MHz, 9-10CL, and 1.5v. I prefer Corsair when it comes to RAM. Generally speaking overclocking the RAM to ~1.75v is safe and will give you room to tighten the timings/ increase speed. However, overclocking the RAM will give you a lot less gain compared to other parts. in my opinion 2133MHz (and even 1866MHz) is the sweet spot. Anything over 2133 and you are looking at 1.65v and a huge price increase for very little gain.
I personally have CMZ8GX3M2A2133C11R which I run at 9-11-10-30 1T @2133. Not really any performance gain from running at 11-11-11-30 2T@2133.
As far as RAM goes, I would get 2133MHz, 9-10CL, and 1.5v. I prefer Corsair when it comes to RAM. Generally speaking overclocking the RAM to ~1.75v is safe and will give you room to tighten the timings/ increase speed. However, overclocking the RAM will give you a lot less gain compared to other parts. in my opinion 2133MHz (and even 1866MHz) is the sweet spot. Anything over 2133 and you are looking at 1.65v and a huge price increase for very little gain.
I personally have CMZ8GX3M2A2133C11R which I run at 9-11-10-30 1T @2133. Not really any performance gain from running at 11-11-11-30 2T@2133.
theiDunnotouch
October 7, 2013 1:54:18 AM
mike69k said:
Well for lower resolutions like the 50 inch TV you don't need don't really need 2 780's, it is only 1080p. If you bought a 27-30inch 2560x1440 or 2560x1600 then you would might want to get 2 cards.As far as RAM goes, I would get 2133MHz, 9-10CL, and 1.5v. I prefer Corsair when it comes to RAM. Generally speaking overclocking the RAM to ~1.75v is safe and will give you room to tighten the timings/ increase speed. However, overclocking the RAM will give you a lot less gain compared to other parts. in my opinion 2133MHz (and even 1866MHz) is the sweet spot. Anything over 2133 and you are looking at 1.65v and a huge price increase for very little gain.
I personally have CMZ8GX3M2A2133C11R which I run at 9-11-10-30 1T @2133. Not really any performance gain from running at 11-11-11-30 2T@2133.
Looked up the RAM but it won't fit with my Noctua DH-14, should I get a h100i water based cooler? I've heard that it's not great at keeping high overclock temps down so what do you reccomend? If you recommend the Noctua then I'll have to get the Kingston GenesisX series: http://www.amazon.cn/gp/product/B005DVVR4Y/ref=ox_sc_ac...
Noctua compatible RAM: http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=compatibility_ram_ge...
scroll down to DDR3 and you can see the Vengeance isn't compatible so should I get the h100i is it good?
theiDunnotouch
October 7, 2013 1:55:18 AM
what do you think about this power supply: http://www.amazon.cn/gp/product/B00D7EMVEE/ref=ox_sc_ac...
would it be enough to supply 2 superclocked GTX 780's?
would it be enough to supply 2 superclocked GTX 780's?
Yes, that is actually the power supply I have, except I have the 860watt version. It is one of the very best power supplies out there.
I personally prefer the Corsair closed loop liquid cooling over fan/heatsink. The H100i has a dual 120mm radiator and it works very well.
As far as the RAM you have listed, it is 1600MHz 9CL @ 1.65v, meaning it wasn't good enough to hit those settings at the regular 1.5v. "Good" 1600MHz RAM should be 8-9CL @ 1.5v.
I personally prefer the Corsair closed loop liquid cooling over fan/heatsink. The H100i has a dual 120mm radiator and it works very well.
As far as the RAM you have listed, it is 1600MHz 9CL @ 1.65v, meaning it wasn't good enough to hit those settings at the regular 1.5v. "Good" 1600MHz RAM should be 8-9CL @ 1.5v.
Here are a couple lower profile 1600MHz 8CL @1.5MHz.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Here are a couple lower profile 1600MHz 9CL @1.5Mhz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Lower CL is better.
Sorry for the American links, but it is hard for me to find specific parts on a Chinese Amazon site when I can't read the language.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Here are a couple lower profile 1600MHz 9CL @1.5Mhz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Lower CL is better.
Sorry for the American links, but it is hard for me to find specific parts on a Chinese Amazon site when I can't read the language.
DBGT_87
October 7, 2013 3:00:16 AM
theiDunnotouch
October 7, 2013 4:03:26 AM
mike69k said:
DBGT_87 said:
why having win 32bit since you installed 16gb ?!!!Good point, I missed that. You need a 64 bit operating system,
I'm only getting 8GB OK? the reason why I don't really like 64bit is beacause when I tried to install it a few months ago it said some cd/dvd driver was missing and to locate that driver. I couldn't get past it but nevertheless I'll try 64bit first. It's a different computer after all so yeah...
I'm not getting the Coolermaster HAF X cause a little bad reviews and only 3 and a half eggs on newegg and only 4 stars on Amazon.
I found the Thermaltake Overseer RX1 what do you think?
Here are my new temporary specs so please please please find any problems or better parts you guys recommend ok here we go
Thermaltake Overseer RX1
Intel Core i5 4760k @ 4.4 gh/z (I will go higher)
2TB Seagate Barracuda
Samsung Pro Evo 120gb SSD
Corsair Vengeance 2133 mh/z 8GB
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
Seasonic 1000w 80 plus platinum
Asus GTX 780 Superclocked (will get 2 in future and superclock the next one as well)
Asus Maximus VI Hero
Corsair H100i
Samsung 24x DVD drive
Front Bay fan controller
TP-LINK 300mbps PCI WI-FI card
will the h100i fit my case, will it suit my overclocks?
is the 1000w enough or will I need more in future (1250w)?
And is this build possible?
If there's any improvements on budget or performance please tell me
You are going to need a 64bit operating system to be able to use more than 4GB of RAM. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop...
The H100i requires a spot for 2x120mm fans.
examples:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... <--- this is a HAF X, and it is one of the best reviewed cases.
When you get a case you are most likely going to want to buy more fans to fill the remaining spots... and an extra two fans for push-pull with the h100i. Also, you did not list a MOBO, I am assuming you are still going with the Gigabyte one. If you don't have one already, don't forget to pick up a anti-static wrist strap. If you want to squeeze the CPU temps down 1-3 degrees, clean the pre-applied thermal paste off the H100i and use some http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168.... Everything looks good though. This is going to be a beast computer.
The H100i requires a spot for 2x120mm fans.
examples:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... <--- this is a HAF X, and it is one of the best reviewed cases.
When you get a case you are most likely going to want to buy more fans to fill the remaining spots... and an extra two fans for push-pull with the h100i. Also, you did not list a MOBO, I am assuming you are still going with the Gigabyte one. If you don't have one already, don't forget to pick up a anti-static wrist strap. If you want to squeeze the CPU temps down 1-3 degrees, clean the pre-applied thermal paste off the H100i and use some http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168.... Everything looks good though. This is going to be a beast computer.
DBGT_87
October 7, 2013 6:57:54 AM
theiDunnotouch said:
mike69k said:
DBGT_87 said:
why having win 32bit since you installed 16gb ?!!!Good point, I missed that. You need a 64 bit operating system,
I'm only getting 8GB OK? the reason why I don't really like 64bit is beacause when I tried to install it a few months ago it said some cd/dvd driver was missing and to locate that driver. I couldn't get past it but nevertheless I'll try 64bit first. It's a different computer after all so yeah...
Win 32bit only use 4gb at maximum
theiDunnotouch
October 7, 2013 7:50:41 PM
mike69k said:
You are going to need a 64bit operating system to be able to use more than 4GB of RAM. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop...The H100i requires a spot for 2x120mm fans.
examples:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... <--- this is a HAF X, and it is one of the best reviewed cases.
When you get a case you are most likely going to want to buy more fans to fill the remaining spots... and an extra two fans for push-pull with the h100i. Also, you did not list a MOBO, I am assuming you are still going with the Gigabyte one. If you don't have one already, don't forget to pick up a anti-static wrist strap. If you want to squeeze the CPU temps down 1-3 degrees, clean the pre-applied thermal paste off the H100i and use some http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168.... Everything looks good though. This is going to be a beast computer.
My MOBO is the Asus Maximus VI Hero. I've read that the H100i could leak, Should I just go with the Noctua DH-14? I'd go with it but I'm scared that
1. It won't fit the Thermaltake Overseer (Not getting the HAF X, this one is cheaper and looks better)
2. It will warp my motherboard
What do you think?
Is 1000w power supply enough? I was hoping in getting a smaller one better never mind. Or should I just go with the Seasonic 1250w? It's really expensive though so
1. Is 1000w necessary
2. Is 850w enough?
theiDunnotouch
October 7, 2013 10:52:53 PM
I've found another full tower, it's a Chinese brand but even the most expensive Corsair case is made in China so yeah... what do you think
Link: http://www.amazon.cn/GameDemon-%E6%B8%B8%E6%88%8F%E6%82...
Translated Specs:
Brand: gaming Titans
Model: tiger shark
Color: black
Type: full-tower chassis
Power supply: without power
Material: steel black
Panel material: ABS
Plate thickness: 0.8mm+1.0mm
Motherboard compatibility: ATX,M-ATX
Size: (l) 555mm* (w) 234mm* (h) 600mm
Weight: net weight 13.3kg/weight/15.46kg
Expansion slots: expansion slots
Front USB3.0*2+2.0*2/HD Audio/E-SATA*2/two sets of fan speed controller
Built-in 5.25 "external drive *6/3.5" internal drive-*6
Front: 200mm silent fan *1 (standard (standard)
Top cover: maximum 2 120/140mmLED Fan *2 fan-cooled system (optional)
Side panels: 120mmLED fan 180/200mmLED fan *1 or *4 (optional)
Post: 140mm silent fan *1 (standard)
It's not very accurate but you can understand something I hope
Link: http://www.amazon.cn/GameDemon-%E6%B8%B8%E6%88%8F%E6%82...
Translated Specs:
Brand: gaming Titans
Model: tiger shark
Color: black
Type: full-tower chassis
Power supply: without power
Material: steel black
Panel material: ABS
Plate thickness: 0.8mm+1.0mm
Motherboard compatibility: ATX,M-ATX
Size: (l) 555mm* (w) 234mm* (h) 600mm
Weight: net weight 13.3kg/weight/15.46kg
Expansion slots: expansion slots
Front USB3.0*2+2.0*2/HD Audio/E-SATA*2/two sets of fan speed controller
Built-in 5.25 "external drive *6/3.5" internal drive-*6
Front: 200mm silent fan *1 (standard (standard)
Top cover: maximum 2 120/140mmLED Fan *2 fan-cooled system (optional)
Side panels: 120mmLED fan 180/200mmLED fan *1 or *4 (optional)
Post: 140mm silent fan *1 (standard)
It's not very accurate but you can understand something I hope
I don't know enough about that case to be able to tell you a good answer. I would just look at reviews online.
I have built 25-30 computers with Corsair's closed loop coolers and never seen one leak. The Noctua fan/heatsink will not warp your board, there are 4 screws set up around the CPU that support that section very well.
As far as power supplies go, I feel that being safe is always good. I usually try to overshoot a little with the power supply, it is what makes everything in your computer work. Most people would say that it is a waste, but I found it lowers the heat from the PSU and doesn't stress it as much, lengthening it's life. I would get a good 1000w. Why not, you are building a top of the line computer. I personally have a Seasonic 860w platinum, and I am running 2x GTX660. But, if I buy cards that need more power I am already prepared.
I think you are starting to over think everything a little to much. Go with your gut, you have a good build.
I have built 25-30 computers with Corsair's closed loop coolers and never seen one leak. The Noctua fan/heatsink will not warp your board, there are 4 screws set up around the CPU that support that section very well.
As far as power supplies go, I feel that being safe is always good. I usually try to overshoot a little with the power supply, it is what makes everything in your computer work. Most people would say that it is a waste, but I found it lowers the heat from the PSU and doesn't stress it as much, lengthening it's life. I would get a good 1000w. Why not, you are building a top of the line computer. I personally have a Seasonic 860w platinum, and I am running 2x GTX660. But, if I buy cards that need more power I am already prepared.
I think you are starting to over think everything a little to much. Go with your gut, you have a good build.
theiDunnotouch
October 8, 2013 5:46:00 AM
mike69k said:
I don't know enough about that case to be able to tell you a good answer. I would just look at reviews online.I have built 25-30 computers with Corsair's closed loop coolers and never seen one leak. The Noctua fan/heatsink will not warp your board, there are 4 screws set up around the CPU that support that section very well.
As far as power supplies go, I feel that being safe is always good. I usually try to overshoot a little with the power supply, it is what makes everything in your computer work. Most people would say that it is a waste, but I found it lowers the heat from the PSU and doesn't stress it as much, lengthening it's life. I would get a good 1000w. Why not, you are building a top of the line computer. I personally have a Seasonic 860w platinum, and I am running 2x GTX660. But, if I buy cards that need more power I am already prepared.
I think you are starting to over think everything a little to much. Go with your gut, you have a good build.
Ok then, the specs
Seasonic 1000w 80 plus platinum
GTX 780 (Asus)
Asus Maximus VI Hero Z87
Corsair Vengeance 8gb 2133 RAM
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
Intel Core i5 4760k @ 4.5 ghz
Thermaltake Overseer RX1
Seagate Barracuda 2TB
Samsung Pro EVO 120gb SSD
Asus 24x DVD reader-writer
Front Bay Fan controller
TP-LINK 300mbps PCI wifi card
Corsair H100i
Once and for all this is final
cikopelo
October 8, 2013 5:50:45 AM
cikopelo said:
http://www.game-debate.com/gpu/index.php?gid=1582&gid2=...690 Beats the titan very bad.
Well the 690 is only 5% to 15% faster, uses more power, has more heat, and has two GPU's.
theiDunnotouch
October 8, 2013 7:01:50 AM
cikopelo said:
http://www.game-debate.com/gpu/index.php?gid=1582&gid2=...690 Beats the titan very bad.
I'm getting a 780 anyways so how is this relevant?
theiDunnotouch
October 8, 2013 7:03:11 AM
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