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October 9, 2013 7:35:23 AM

I'll nuke so many scrubz with mouse and keybie
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October 9, 2013 7:42:11 AM

"saying that this setup has gamers leaning forward"

Wireless keyboard resting on couch arm rest / upper leg and wireless mouse wherever comfortable, preferably on couch cushion. Pretty lazy relaxed position i say. These guys narrow thinking or what???

Nevertheless, if keyboard/mouse option proceeds, there will be no excuse not to be in unison with PC gamers.
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October 9, 2013 7:46:44 AM

If they allow mice and keyboard in game I will NEVER EVER buy an Xbox 1. The reason I game on console is to sit back on the couch and be comfortable. I have tried that with a keyboard and mouse and it DOES NOT WORK. I can understand it for business, apps, and web surfing.
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October 9, 2013 8:04:17 AM

"Unfortunately, Hryb seemed reserved about using the mouse and keyboard method on the Xbox One, saying that this setup has gamers leaning forward whereas gamepads allow players to lean back and "have fun"."

This simply makes no sense. We're talking about an OPTION here. If you don't want to use a kb/mouse, you won't have to (tiny assumption being made there). Here's an idea, how about you give gamers a CHOICE as to how THEY want to have fun?

The real truth though is this won't happen for the very same reason it hasn't happened on existing platforms, because it would finally provide an environment to put the whole kb/mouse vs gamepad debate to bed, and the powers that be know it would not be in favor of the gamepad.
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October 9, 2013 8:07:55 AM

I doubt most game designers are going to allow for support of both in their console games...I could see this used primarily for the xbox one non gaming features

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October 9, 2013 8:09:33 AM

Bet you a lot of people playing FPSs online will begin to convert when they get destroyed by mouse users.... If I remember correctly Microsoft was going to do cross platform gaming on one of there releases (i don't remember which one) but found that 9/10 the PC (w/mouse) users destroyed the console users. There are a lot of cool things the mouse and keyboard could be useful for in game and at the home screen.
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October 9, 2013 8:12:51 AM

xtec said:
If they allow mice and keyboard in game I will NEVER EVER buy an Xbox 1. The reason I game on console is to sit back on the couch and be comfortable. I have tried that with a keyboard and mouse and it DOES NOT WORK. I can understand it for business, apps, and web surfing.


Wireless keyboard and mouse. I'm sitting in a lazyboy style chair with a keyboard on my lap and the mouse on a small table right beside the chair, and my girlfriend usually has mouse one on a small book on the armrest of her chair. What's more, roller-ball mice (or whatever they're called) work very well and you can literally balance the damned things on your head and use them as effectively as a normal mouse - no regular resting surface required.

( http://vayzo.com/images/stories/logitech-trackball-mous... )

The idea that a keyboard and mouse has to be awkward/uncomfortable and can't be used well from an armchair on a TV is a complete myth. I totally understand why some people would prefer a controller for many things - heck, I prefer them for many types of games - but if you want a *really* comfortable mouse and keyboard setup, it isn't that hard to do or expensive.
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October 9, 2013 8:14:50 AM

the1kingbob said:
Bet you a lot of people playing FPSs online will begin to convert when they get destroyed by mouse users.... If I remember correctly Microsoft was going to do cross platform gaming on one of there releases (i don't remember which one) but found that 9/10 the PC (w/mouse) users destroyed the console users. There are a lot of cool things the mouse and keyboard could be useful for in game and at the home screen.


Personally, I hope they have some filter options for this sort of thing and users are tagged if they are using a KB/M rather than a controller. I mean, I actually prefer using a controller for FPS's even if they are less accurate - they're just more comfortable overall, I find - but I wouldn't want to play against a KB/M user while I was using a controller. Cross platform gaming would work just fine - just have some control option filter settings.
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October 9, 2013 8:20:57 AM

I must wonder if some of you can read. The article doesn't say that support would be provided for mouse/keyboard INSTEAD of controller but rather in addition to. How can anybody object to that?
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October 9, 2013 8:24:04 AM

Lack of mouse/keyboard support is the only reason I refuse to play any FPS on a console. There is no debate, M/K is far superior to a gamepad for FPS games, but can also have advantages in dungeon crawlers, such as Diablo III, and virtually all MMOs can have a huge benefit. M/K support would allow games like World of Warcraft to come over to consoles without much effort. RTS games like StarCraft would be viable.

These console companies and their game manufacturers don't seem to focus on just how much better a console and the gaming experience could be....instead they focus on crybabies who don't want to ruin their "gamepad" experience. In reality those are few and far between. True gamers know that a M/K is far superior.

The money these companies can make, the merging of the PC and Console gamers, the advanced controls for complex games, all leads to money in their wallet. Why do they still advocate against M/K support makes no business sense.
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October 9, 2013 8:24:57 AM

"May" get a mouse and keyboard. What a bunch of arrogant pricks. And if it got it, it'll only work with advertised Official Xbox One Keyboard/Mouse Kit. Legacy keyboard/mouse should have worked with Xbox360 from day one. As third party racing wheels should have worked, but it doesn't. I was stupid enough to get a 360, I won't do that mistake again.
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October 9, 2013 8:27:09 AM

I could see how keyboard/mouse users have an edge over the traditional controller user. Especially in an FPS environment.

You can't beat mouse precision. I always thought this is why console game developers stayed away from M/K support.

For general chatting and web browsing, M/K is a welcomed addition to consoles. For gaming, your treading some dangerous water. We'll see.
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October 9, 2013 8:27:38 AM

Its not about the fps gaming debate. Its about all the titles console players will be able to enjoy with access to a mouse and keyboard.

ARPGs
Mobas
RTS
Sim - Civilization
MMORPG??? - never played one but I assume its easier to cast spells with a 100+ key keyboard than a controller.

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October 9, 2013 8:34:14 AM

I will just stick with my PC. :) 
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October 9, 2013 8:48:41 AM

While nothing on even a next-gen console compares to my gaming PC, this is definitely awesome. Some games are appropriate for controllers and others for mouse and keyboard, while others are appropriate for steering wheel setups, etc... I would buy the mouse keyboard combo just for first-person shooters.

This has been a stopper for a lot of people who might otherwise buy a low-end gaming PC. Now, you'll be able to game with a mouse and keyboard while only spending $500 on the console.

Game developers should definitely hop on board.
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October 9, 2013 9:02:58 AM

PS3 supports both, unless you are browsing it's pretty useless.
Oh, and starting browser on Xbone requires gold subscription.
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October 9, 2013 9:04:54 AM

Why does everyone think using a mouse is automatically making you better? Have you not seem COD or Halo sniper videos? Those guys are insane with what they can do with a controller with the sensitivity at max. Not everyone plays on the min sensitivity.

Once you get used to what you use, you are good to go.

That said, I doubt they will allow mouse to be used in game because that might hurt controller sales. $20 mouse or $60 controller? What about multiple users on the same console, how do they hook up their headsets? They cant with a mouse.
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October 9, 2013 9:14:51 AM

Hope this happens, I'd buy a console if and only if add support for M/K for <u><b>every</b></u> game.

If this happens, I can't wait to destroy my arrogant friends who think their pro gamers. It would easily be worth the $500 to destroy them in FPS.
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October 9, 2013 9:23:38 AM

will1220 said:
Hope this happens, I'd buy a console if and only if add support for M/K for <u><b>every</b></u> game.

If this happens, I can't wait to destroy my arrogant friends who think their pro gamers. It would easily be worth the $500 to destroy them in FPS.


So you playing with a KB/M combo... And them playing with a controller, or a KB/M combo they don't regularly use... You'd destroy them - which would prove very, very much I might add.

You know, you *might* have something in common with your "arrogant friends" ;) 
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October 9, 2013 9:30:38 AM

kartu said:
PS3 supports both, unless you are browsing it's pretty useless.
Oh, and starting browser on Xbone requires gold subscription.


So the Sony implementation of the mouse and keyboard are useless. It doesn't mean they will be on the MS implementation.
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October 9, 2013 9:39:14 AM

If the next-gen consoles add mouse and keyboard support for all games it might pull a couple of PC gamers to them. I know I would buy one if that was the case.
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October 9, 2013 9:48:16 AM

The Xbox 360 already supports basic keyboard, just try it on yours with any USB keyboard. I'd be surprised if they didn't include this kind of support on the Xbox One.
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October 9, 2013 9:48:29 AM

lpedraja2002 said:
If the next-gen consoles add mouse and keyboard support for all games it might pull a couple of PC gamers to them. I know I would buy one if that was the case.


That's what I'm talking about. But then that would be Microsoft Windows OS-based hardware competing with Microsoft Xbox One. I wonder it that's why they've been reluctant to release keyboard / mouse support for gaming on the Xbox. The good part about console gaming is there's no lack of people playing. Way more than on PC. There's always an opponent out there waiting for a challenge. This is because the lower price of decent-quality gaming on the console makes it less exclusive than PC gaming. The keyboard option would make it even more attractive.
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October 9, 2013 9:49:54 AM

Wow, such passionate hatred, "If they allow mice and keyboard in game I will NEVER EVER buy an Xbox 1"

You do realise that any support will be as well as a controller, not instead of, plus with that attitude I seriously doubt you were buying an Xbox 1 anyway
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October 9, 2013 9:51:24 AM

And by the way to the people that say they want to use k/m combo on their Xbox, there's a company that makes a device that lets you connect a k/m combo on your console. I just don't remember what it's called.
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October 9, 2013 9:56:37 AM

If Xbox allows cross-platform gaming, Xbox player on same map as PC gamer and both can use controller or kb/m, I think after a while with good statistics we could finally put the whole "which is better" argument to bed
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October 9, 2013 10:10:03 AM

I wonder if the main reason for this is so that the xbone can be used instead of a normal PC?
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October 9, 2013 10:38:31 AM

I already use a mouse and keyboard in the Xbox 360 for FPS games.
There's a device called an XIM3, and it's awesome!
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October 9, 2013 10:38:36 AM

"with a Wi-Fi keyboard and mouse" I not aware that they exist already, I am still using my Android device as a Wi-Fi keyboard and mouse.
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October 9, 2013 10:39:33 AM

I already use a mouse and keyboard in the Xbox 360 for FPS games.
There's a device called an XIM3, and it's awesome!
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October 9, 2013 11:14:45 AM

Wireless sucks.How hard is it really to add the option of using kb/mouse in the options menu in console games?Shouldn't be hard at all.If you really have to have gold sub to access IE,that is some major BS!
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October 9, 2013 12:03:34 PM

I have been using a Keyboard / Mouse setup since I have owned my 360 and I wouldnt have bought it if I couldn't as I am old school and have no desire to learn to use the inferior controller. I can say that thought, whatever the reason they give for a KB/M not being a good fit for a console is complete BS.

I am perfectly fine playing 2 feet apart on a 24" 1080p monitor and 12 ft away from playing on a 65" 1080p TV.

I can use it in bed while lying down, leaned back in a reclining chair or sitting at a desk.

KB/M on a console gives me the superior FPS control I enjoy even though MS has never supported it and if they don't do it with the ONE the makers of the device I use now will so I will continue to enjoy it. The only question will be when I buy one because until there is keyboard mouse support through the console or by XIM I will not be getting one and will stick with my 360.
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October 9, 2013 12:50:28 PM

n3ard3ath said:
"May" get a mouse and keyboard. What a bunch of arrogant pricks. And if it got it, it'll only work with advertised Official Xbox One Keyboard/Mouse Kit. Legacy keyboard/mouse should have worked with Xbox360 from day one. As third party racing wheels should have worked, but it doesn't. I was stupid enough to get a 360, I won't do that mistake again.


Microsoft allows for third party accessories...controllers included. I personally use both the Microsoft Wheel but also the MadKatz wheel. You must not have real experience or are clueless.

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October 9, 2013 12:50:43 PM

n3ard3ath said:
"May" get a mouse and keyboard. What a bunch of arrogant pricks. And if it got it, it'll only work with advertised Official Xbox One Keyboard/Mouse Kit. Legacy keyboard/mouse should have worked with Xbox360 from day one. As third party racing wheels should have worked, but it doesn't. I was stupid enough to get a 360, I won't do that mistake again.


Microsoft allows for third party accessories...controllers included. I personally use both the Microsoft Wheel but also the MadKatz wheel. You must not have real experience or are clueless.

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October 9, 2013 12:59:54 PM

You guys do realize a mouse and keyboard is gonna feel like shit at sub 30fps right?
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October 9, 2013 1:38:01 PM

About...Damn...Time!
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October 9, 2013 3:47:05 PM

THIS MUST HAPPEN! It's easy too. They create a game server filter so the user has an option on what he/she wants to play against
1. Gamepad or Mouse & Keyboard
2. Gamepad only
3. Mouse & Keyboards only

In option 1 the gamer has a little icon next to their name so you know what they are using. I would love to ditch my PC gaming endless drivers & GPU updates and have something like this. I just HATE a gamepad for FPS
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October 9, 2013 4:02:52 PM

THIS MUST HAPPEN! It's easy too. They create a game server filter so the user has an option on what he/she wants to play against
1. Gamepad or Mouse & Keyboard
2. Gamepad only
3. Mouse & Keyboards only

In option 1 the gamer has a little icon next to their name so you know what they are using. I would love to ditch my PC gaming endless drivers & GPU updates and have something like this. I just HATE a gamepad for FPS
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October 9, 2013 5:38:54 PM

I already use a mouse and keyboard with my 360 and I love it. I had to purchase a Xim to do it, but its been fantastic, and like another member mentioned. This could also open a door for other games like MMORPGs.

Many of these games have massive followings with monthly fees. Which almost guarantees more Gold accounts. As players will need gold accounts to play online.

As far as business market, unless their is a keyboard and mouse, they might as well not even bother. Business owners will only see it as a toy and not a productive business tool. But to follow the Microsoft naming tradition, have a XBOX One Pro version that comes with a mouse and keyboard versus a controller.
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October 10, 2013 12:46:02 AM

If my XBOX One has keyboard and mouse support, I won't need to upgrade my PC. In fact, I would like it if I'm able to actually use my Logitech Unifier. Less crap on my desk.
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October 10, 2013 5:01:41 AM

I had much more fun playing halo/halo2 on the pc with a M/K than i did on the console with a gamepad. I would love to enjoy the halo games going forward in that same way, even if it has to be on a console instead of a pc.
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October 10, 2013 3:20:47 PM

A computing device that has an Operating System specific to it, has proprietary peripherals and programs have to be specifically coded to run on its hardware.

Sounds like a Mac to me. Good job Microsoft, you became Apple.
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October 10, 2013 3:42:21 PM

kewlmunky said:
A computing device that has an Operating System specific to it, has proprietary peripherals and programs have to be specifically coded to run on its hardware.

Sounds like a Mac to me. Good job Microsoft, you became Apple.


... You are familiar with device precedents set by the decades long history of video game consoles, right? And also familiar that MS was far from the company that established that closed model? Because what you've just described fits more or less every console since the NES, and possibly before that.

But, I know, let's single out MS for "proprietary peripherals" and "programs," when they have decades under their belt running a very prolific OS that runs damn near any program or device that any bloke chooses to make for it. Yep, their long history is all about "proprietary only."

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October 10, 2013 8:29:29 PM

stevejnb said:
kewlmunky said:
A computing device that has an Operating System specific to it, has proprietary peripherals and programs have to be specifically coded to run on its hardware.

Sounds like a Mac to me. Good job Microsoft, you became Apple.


... You are familiar with device precedents set by the decades long history of video game consoles, right? And also familiar that MS was far from the company that established that closed model? Because what you've just described fits more or less every console since the NES, and possibly before that.

But, I know, let's single out MS for "proprietary peripherals" and "programs," when they have decades under their belt running a very prolific OS that runs damn near any program or device that any bloke chooses to make for it. Yep, their long history is all about "proprietary only."



Yes, but unlike previous generations this has a lot of the functionalities of a computer, as well as keyboard and mouse support. It also has an x86 architecture processor like a computer. So when are we just going to call it a computer instead of a console?
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October 11, 2013 10:29:06 AM

elexor said:
You guys do realize a mouse and keyboard is gonna feel like shit at sub 30fps right?


Sub 30fps? The game is going to look like and play like crap if it is sub 30FPS no matter what type of controller you use.

And before you go on about how using a mouse with a console gives a poor experience, I suggest you read above where I speak about me using a keyboard/mouse to play games on the 360 now and there are many that do it on the PS3 as well.

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October 11, 2013 10:31:30 AM

Just about anyone that uses a m/k on the 360 has increased stats in the multiplayer games.
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October 11, 2013 10:33:41 AM

kewlmunky said:
A computing device that has an Operating System specific to it, has proprietary peripherals and programs have to be specifically coded to run on its hardware.

Sounds like a Mac to me. Good job Microsoft, you became Apple.


I dont think you know what you are talking about. EVERY device requires a driver for any operating system they work on. In many cases, MS provides even the most basic and rudimentary drivers needed for a device so it will work without a specific driver. In some cases though you will need a specific driver which is provided by the maker of the product, not MS.
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October 11, 2013 10:41:00 AM

ubercake said:
Just about anyone that uses a m/k on the 360 has increased stats in the multiplayer games.


Could be, but it is a chicken and egg scenario.

I am better with a mouse because I have used a mouse for 20+ years of gaming and dont care to learn to use a controller. However, being that aim is only part of the equation if I decided to use a controller exclusively I would more than likely get just as good as I am with a mouse because of my gaming smarts.

Keep in mind that a keyboard/mouse is still restricted by the same game mechanics that a controller is so a keyboard/mouse user can't move faster or spin faster then the setting in the game just like a controller user.

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October 11, 2013 5:55:40 PM

Skippy27 said:
ubercake said:
Just about anyone that uses a m/k on the 360 has increased stats in the multiplayer games.


Could be, but it is a chicken and egg scenario.

I am better with a mouse because I have used a mouse for 20+ years of gaming and dont care to learn to use a controller. However, being that aim is only part of the equation if I decided to use a controller exclusively I would more than likely get just as good as I am with a mouse because of my gaming smarts.

Keep in mind that a keyboard/mouse is still restricted by the same game mechanics that a controller is so a keyboard/mouse user can't move faster or spin faster then the setting in the game just like a controller user.



Disagree, its been done and tested.

http://www.gamesradar.com/pc-gamers-destroyed-console-g...

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During the testing, extremely talented console gamers were pitted against "mediocre" PC gamers in what appears to be some type of shooter. The Xbox gamers used their 360 controllers and the PC gamers used the traditional mouse/keyboard combo. The results?

"The console players got destroyed every time. So much so that it would be embarrassing to the XBOX team in general had Microsoft launched this initiative."


Intelligence? All games require a level of intelligence to play well that's a given. There's no right or wrong way to play a game, but its naive to think controller has equal opportunity.
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