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I3 3220 vs Athlon ii x4 760k, Budget gaming pc build.

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What Gpu Combo Should I Get.

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  • 760k + Another Gpu
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  • 760k + r7 260x
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  • Neither?? Something Else??
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October 21, 2013 12:32:21 AM

Well i'm building a budget gaming pc for me. I have a monitor(1440x900), case, hard drive, and a copy of win7 win xp and win8. I plan on getting either a i3 3220 or athlon ii x4 760k. I play Tera, Minecraft, Skyrim(with alot of mods, 99 to date), TF2, and Dragon Nest. My friend is willing to give me a BO2 gift via steam, and i may pick up BF4, ive seen some of the beta benchs, they weren't pretty.

My Build so far includes a r7 260x (or 7850/7870 if they drop low enough in $), 8gb of ram @ 1333mhz or 1600mhz, and the cpus with corresponding motherboards. My budget is around $400 and id rather not push $325 (which that i3 will). The parts will be bought either during christmas time or at the lowest point of prices(whichever comes first). I wont OC the 760k unless needed.

At first i was all in for my $325 build with the 760k, then i saw some benchmarks of skyrim maxed that show the 5800k bootlegging the hell out of a 680, when i say bootleg i mean by like 40 fps, while the 2nd/3rd gen i3s ran about 10 frames less than the 2nd/3rd gen i5s(90 ish fps). Which brings the question "is the i3 3220 better for the games i play?"

I also ask this as my laptop's hd, cpu and motherboard are in the process of dying, and i have files (custom mods, pictures, pw, and steam themes that i cant replace) so where can i upload alot (GBs) of data to? drop box?

PS. Im willing to buy used but working: ram(if less than 2/3 years of use and never overclocked), CPUs (never overclocked), motherboards, etc from members of the forums, if allowed of course.
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October 21, 2013 12:48:56 AM

You can get FX-6200 for almost the price of I3-3220 (a couple of dollars difference won't kill you).
October 21, 2013 12:51:45 AM

Gaidax said:
You can get FX-6200 for almost the price of I3-3220 (a couple of dollars difference won't kill you).


I would if that thread can be proven false.
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October 21, 2013 12:58:57 AM

I can't prove that thread false, therefore I3 is a better choice then and my previous statement was wrong.
October 21, 2013 1:33:01 AM

The plus-side for the 760k is that you can buy an A88X-chipset motherboard for it. Intel's 1155-socket is already dead whereas AMD's FM2+ is actually unborn.

We can't yet know what kind of CPUs (if any, they could all be APUs) there's going to be for the new socket since none have been yet unveiled. What we do know is that when you want to upgrade your i3-3000 series the highest you can go on is i7-3770k.
October 21, 2013 1:39:44 AM

With That in mind, those fm2+ boards wont be cheap, *looks at ivy bridge pentiums, thinks of the r7 260x bootleg* lol
October 21, 2013 1:44:04 AM

Looks like the 3220 is the way to go thanks! Here
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October 21, 2013 3:13:13 AM

but note that you cant play any multi-threaded games on the other hand, i3 in crysis 3 drops to 35 pfs while fx 6350 gives some about 52 fps!!!!! look here http://www.techspot.com/review/642-crysis-3-performance... and you wont be able to play bf4!!! http://www.overclock.net/t/1430568/ggpu-battlefield-4-b... and you wont be able to play watch dogs with that cpu and alot of upcoming multi-threaded games....if gaming is not your concern, go i3, if it is dont make a mistake, cause you will regret it
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October 21, 2013 3:39:14 AM

Please disregard the AMD guy. He is a known AMD crusader. Don't waste your money on something that proved inferior in every test on this very site.

I even myself suggested AMD first, but the hard cold data shows that it is obviously worse here. It's kinda pointless brandishing that cutlass screaming "YARR!" when you get data in your face.

Also, ease any possible concerns about future games - both these CPUs' are low end budget ones and they will both tank unless you go with lowest settings, so it does not matter anyway EVEN IF it is true (it's not).


Besides... WTF... I read his post... He is comparing I3 to FX-6350? Derp much... not even reading OP.
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October 21, 2013 3:57:19 AM

Gaidax said:
Please disregard the AMD guy. He is a known AMD crusader. Don't waste your money on something that proved inferior in every test on this very site.

I even myself suggested AMD first, but the hard cold data shows that it is obviously worse here. It's kinda pointless brandishing that cutlass screaming "YARR!" when you get data in your face.

Also, ease any possible concerns about future games - both these CPUs' are low end budget ones and they will both tank unless you go with lowest settings, so it does not matter anyway EVEN IF it is true (it's not).


Besides... WTF... I read his post... He is comparing I3 to FX-6350? Derp much... not even reading OP.

now i really really doubt your being logical, you say i3 is better comparing to fx 6350 if you want to play GAMES like Battlefield 4 or crysis 3!? can you show me a single document where i3 is performing better in these two games!? lol I dont feel like arguing any more, not with you at leat, I kinda like you but look here if i3 is way to go then, go i3
1.http://www.techspot.com/review/712-arma-3-benchmarks/pa...
2. http://www.techspot.com/review/670-metro-last-light-per...
3. http://www.techspot.com/review/642-crysis-3-performance...
4. http://www.techspot.com/review/615-far-cry-3-performanc...
5.http://www.techspot.com/review/608-hitman-absolution-pe...
6. http://www.techspot.com/review/601-black-ops-2-performa... (6200 is weaker than 6350)
I chose techspot, because techspot loves Intel so much, so you can't say they are fake need more!? I am ready

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October 21, 2013 4:05:53 AM

Gaidax said:
Please disregard the AMD guy. He is a known AMD crusader. Don't waste your money on something that proved inferior in every test on this very site.

I even myself suggested AMD first, but the hard cold data shows that it is obviously worse here. It's kinda pointless brandishing that cutlass screaming "YARR!" when you get data in your face.

Also, ease any possible concerns about future games - both these CPUs' are low end budget ones and they will both tank unless you go with lowest settings, so it does not matter anyway EVEN IF it is true (it's not).


Besides... WTF... I read his post... He is comparing I3 to FX-6350? Derp much... not even reading OP.
see how 4170 performs better than your i5 here =))) I'm joking pal, this game is wierd isnt it!!?
http://www.techspot.com/review/591-medal-of-honor-warfi...
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October 21, 2013 4:09:44 AM

DUDE!! WAKE UP???

We are talking about I3-3220 vs ATHLON 2 X4 760K or FX-6200... not FX-6300 not FX-8350. FX-6200 is not even damned Piledriver!


Dude!
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October 21, 2013 4:13:28 AM

The 760k is richland not trinity like a10-5800k, the differences would be minimal but it is better and overclocks like a dream, with very simple bios tweaks they push 5ghz on air and properly support 2133mhz ram (2400 oc'd). They trade blows @stock with the i3 across the board in benches other than skyrim, you can buy a cheap a88 mobo and have have an upgrade path to kaveri which if the rumors are true will work in dual graphics with the exact card your getting. Look for a10-6800k benches not 5800.
I'm in the same position as you as my budget for my kid bro's xmas build has been slashed due to broken monitor, I'm going for an a88 gigabyte board and the same card as yours with view to upgrading in Feb next year. Heres hoping mantle and dual graphics works out lol. Also fwiw here the 760k is 30-40 sterling cheaper as well which lets me buy the 60£ a88 chipset board.
Heres some benches and oc'd benches at 4.6ghz
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/amd_a1...
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October 21, 2013 4:27:49 AM

While the i3 3220 is roughly 25% more powerful in single threaded tasks, the x4 760k is actually on par with the i3 in overall performance, and it will pull ahead of the i3 when overclocked.

The biggest catch is, the x4 760k is roughly $30-40 cheaper on average making it by far the better deal if on a true budget.

That $30-40 saving will net you a GTX 660ti over a GTX 660.
Or a HD 7950 over a HD 7870.

If gaming is the concern, the extra money is better spent on a better video card.

An AMD Athlon x4 760k + GTX 660ti will out perform a i3 3220 + GTX 660 all day everyday for the same cost.
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October 21, 2013 4:38:11 AM

Gaidax said:
DUDE!! WAKE UP???

We are talking about I3-3220 vs ATHLON 2 X4 760K or FX-6200... not FX-6300 not FX-8350. FX-6200 is not even damned Piledriver!


Dude!


Do you agree with me now!!? unless you want to play a bunch of MMOS and JMMOS, because they are old engines and single threaded since their developers are poor people, go with fx 6200..even if you want to play skyrim who says 55 fps is not playable!!? show that person to me and I will cut his ear!!! you cant notice more than 30 fps man!!
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October 21, 2013 4:42:23 AM

bouncedk said:
Dunno why you'd even want to consider a dual core in 2013. Play a lot of older games or something?
Fairly sure an FX4 or FX6 will cost the same.

lol, I would say the same thing twice!!! you are from Denmark!!?
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October 21, 2013 5:07:35 AM

bouncedk said:
Darkresurrection said:
you cant notice more than 30 fps man!!
Well that's not true at all :)  30 vs 60 is like night and day. Even in videos.

Here's two videos I made many years ago, it clearly shows the difference between 30 and 60 fps - You'll need a pc/laptop that is capable of playing 60fps videos in order to see the difference; http://www.gamefront.com/files/23788032/video.zip

Darkresurrection said:
lol, I would say the same thing twice!!! you are from Denmark!!?
Yes.

Denmark is a great country....what I am saying is that it's not wise to put an option away because it gives 55 fps in skyrim!!! that game is easily playable on ultra on an fx 6200, but when it comes to crysis 3 the difference is marginal FX 6200- 50FPS whereas core I5 32 fps!!! ans the other benchmarks i have sent show that fx 6200 is much better than an i3

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October 21, 2013 5:16:09 AM

It's like I'm living in alternate reality here... suddenly things that pull less FPS are considered better... I guess in that case, yay FX-6200!
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October 21, 2013 5:28:18 AM

^^The fx is am3+ which is looking like a dead socket though, really hope not but fm2+ looks like it has alot more life like maybe 2 revisions of a newer generation. Looking at it really optimistically the op could be purchasing a 60£ i5 sandy equivalent this time next xmas with free gpu that will hybrid xfire with his card ;) 
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October 21, 2013 5:51:41 AM

bouncedk said:
con635 said:
^^The fx is am3+ which is looking like a dead socket though, really hope not but fm2+ looks like it has alot more life like maybe 2 revisions of a newer generation. Looking at it really optimistically the op could be purchasing a 60£ i5 sandy equivalent upgrade this time next xmas ;) 


Sure but it sounds like there's a limited budget. I don't care whether people use intel or amd, just dont get a friggin dual core these days. It would be the same if I upgraded to a single core last year. Crazy talk. Don't do it.

Also last I heard, "Steamroller" will be using AM3+ and then move on to a new socket. AMD always had compatibility in mind, unlike intel which release a new socket every friggin year.

Sorry my post does look a bit misleading, I'm suggesting he gets the 760k and with the money saved over the i3 an fm2+ mobo which is 100% guaranteed steam roller chips that will maybe/should xfire with his choice of card. With price drops if similar pricing to trinity he could have an excellent upgrade for cheap next year.

October 21, 2013 6:16:51 AM

bouncedk said:
Dunno why you'd even want to consider a dual core in 2013. Play a lot of older games or something?
Fairly sure an FX4 or FX6 will cost the same.


Yeah, i have yet to finish playing through skyrim as im not around a xbox alot. Minecraft id like to be a map maker, cube world id like to play, tf2(hl2) amd dragon nest are all older games. Like i said skyrim will be modded to.... hell. currently it was 99 mods, but originaly it was 138, i removed the more gpu intense ones.
October 21, 2013 6:19:08 AM

Darkresurrection said:
Gaidax said:
DUDE!! WAKE UP???

We are talking about I3-3220 vs ATHLON 2 X4 760K or FX-6200... not FX-6300 not FX-8350. FX-6200 is not even damned Piledriver!


Dude!


Do you agree with me now!!? unless you want to play a bunch of MMOS and JMMOS, because they are old engines and single threaded since their developers are poor people, go with fx 6200..even if you want to play skyrim who says 55 fps is not playable!!? show that person to me and I will cut his ear!!! you cant notice more than 30 fps man!!


I need the most fps, as i will be modded heavily, i had 138 mods, but now im at 99 to increase gpu performance. So i need the most, yea i play alot of mmos, tf2 is one of the only fps i know i will play, which is also off the halflife 2 engine.
October 21, 2013 6:28:31 AM

i expect at least 50 fps decrease, with all 138 mods, but now its lowered to 99, i am not willing to decrease it lower than these 99, which we drop fps around 20 frams, and thi card will only get around 60 ish fps.

BTW i am a AMD fanboy, i love the 6800k and the classic phenom 965, but niether can give me what i want or need, performance and price.
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October 21, 2013 11:35:07 AM

isaiah davis said:
i expect at least 50 fps decrease, with all 138 mods, but now its lowered to 99, i am not willing to decrease it lower than these 99, which we drop fps around 20 frams, and thi card will only get around 60 ish fps.

BTW i am a AMD fanboy, i love the 6800k and the classic phenom 965, but niether can give me what i want or need, performance and price.

I don't know you scenerio really, I might be mistaken about your case, to me crysis 3 is important, bf 4 is important, hitman is important, and well if you were in my case you would benefit from that 6200, I have never played any MMOS even strategic games, I play action, survival horror, and rarely RPGs, so i can't be a good judge for your case
October 21, 2013 12:16:13 PM

Darkresurrection said:
isaiah davis said:
i expect at least 50 fps decrease, with all 138 mods, but now its lowered to 99, i am not willing to decrease it lower than these 99, which we drop fps around 20 frams, and thi card will only get around 60 ish fps.

BTW i am a AMD fanboy, i love the 6800k and the classic phenom 965, but niether can give me what i want or need, performance and price.

I don't know you scenerio really, I might be mistaken about your case, to me crysis 3 is important, bf 4 is important, hitman is important, and well if you were in my case you would benefit from that 6200, I have never played any MMOS even strategic games, I play action, survival horror, and rarely RPGs, so i can't be a good judge for your case


Ive been looking at the fx 4350, passmark wise it isnt too far behind the 3220 in single core performance, i wont be playing many current games, bf4 being a exception. But if i get this i will still need a $50 mb
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October 21, 2013 12:29:38 PM

isaiah davis said:
Darkresurrection said:
11763516,0,1454266 said:
i expect at least 50 fps decrease, with all 138 mods, but now its lowered to 99, i am not willing to decrease it lower than these 99, which we drop fps around 20 frams, and thi card will only get around 60 ish fps.

BTW i am a AMD fanboy, i love the 6800k and the classic phenom 965, but niether can give me what i want or need, performance and price.
said:

I don't know you scenerio really, I might be mistaken about your case, to me crysis 3 is important, bf 4 is important, hitman is important, and well if you were in my case you would benefit from that 6200, I have never played any MMOS even strategic games, I play action, survival horror, and rarely RPGs, so i can't be a good judge for your case
said:


Ive been looking at the fx 4350, passmark wise it isnt too far behind the
what's your budget exactly!!?
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October 21, 2013 1:03:24 PM

If it is just between the i3 and athlon go i3 all the way. In heavily threaded games they are about the same but in lesser threaded the i3 destroys it. If you can get a 6300 or 4300 then definitely get one of them. Don't skimp and get a $50 motherboard you'll regret it later. twenty dollars gets a lot more
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October 21, 2013 1:15:00 PM

The motherboard is the LAST component you want to skimp out on money wise.

I would rather have a Athlon x4 760k and a $90 motherboard than an i3 with a $50 motherboard.

The new fm2+ mobos are starting at around $69 for the entry level A55 and $85 for the top of the line A88X. You could grab an Athlon for cheap now and get a new Kaveri sometime next year.

I still maintain that the video card is more important than the cpu anyway.
October 21, 2013 1:16:42 PM

thdarkshadow said:
If it is just between the i3 and athlon go i3 all the way. In heavily threaded games they are about the same but in lesser threaded the i3 destroys it. If you can get a 6300 or 4300 then definitely get one of them. Don't skimp and get a $50 motherboard you'll regret it later. twenty dollars gets a lot more


well the 4350/4300 were barely in my budget and then you dont recconmend $50 mb omg, maybe i should get a lesser gpu, i really wanted to see mantle and the dedicated sound card would also help
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October 21, 2013 1:19:50 PM

isaiah davis said:
thdarkshadow said:
If it is just between the i3 and athlon go i3 all the way. In heavily threaded games they are about the same but in lesser threaded the i3 destroys it. If you can get a 6300 or 4300 then definitely get one of them. Don't skimp and get a $50 motherboard you'll regret it later. twenty dollars gets a lot more


well the 4350/4300 were barely in my budget and then you dont recconmend $50 mb omg, maybe i should get a lesser gpu, i really wanted to see mantle and the dedicated sound card would also help


You dont need a sound card. Its about the same as integrated unless you spend big money. What gpu were you planning on?
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October 21, 2013 1:25:10 PM

dude can you save up a little bit more!? within 2-3 months time, be patient i'd say
October 21, 2013 1:54:39 PM

thdarkshadow said:
isaiah davis said:
thdarkshadow said:
If it is just between the i3 and athlon go i3 all the way. In heavily threaded games they are about the same but in lesser threaded the i3 destroys it. If you can get a 6300 or 4300 then definitely get one of them. Don't skimp and get a $50 motherboard you'll regret it later. twenty dollars gets a lot more


well the 4350/4300 were barely in my budget and then you dont recconmend $50 mb omg, maybe i should get a lesser gpu, i really wanted to see mantle and the dedicated sound card would also help


You dont need a sound card. Its about the same as integrated unless you spend big money. What gpu were you planning on?


the 260x, but now i may end up getting the 7790 and a dedicated soundcard(maybe)
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October 21, 2013 1:58:03 PM

Darkresurrection said:
dude can you save up a little bit more!? within 2-3 months time, be patient i'd say


this... seriously this...

Don't rush in to this. Yes your budget isn't very high but even saving an extra 20-30 over a couple months will make a difference and let you get a better quality motherboard for your chosen platform.
October 21, 2013 2:25:27 PM

What about a Asus A88XM-A and the 760k w/ the CM Hyper 212 plus and some overclocking. The Build
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October 21, 2013 2:29:42 PM

To wrap it up:

The AMD Athlon ii x4 760k is better in multi threaded apps. Most of the latest and upcoming games are using more then 2 threads so if you would be playing newer games this would be the best out of two.

The Intel core i3 is better in single threaded apps and games that use more processing power and only use 1 or 2 cores. You can see that the dual cores are bottlenecking when playing most newer games (this is getting worse in the future)

The games you're playing prefer more single threaded power so the better choise will be the i3 (if the only games you play are the games you put in the op).

The AMD will be fine aswell the only game it doesnt handle "that well" is skyrim but it is still perfectly playable.

What you absolutely dont want to do is skimp on the gpu(or motherboard,there are good cheap mobo's though). You dont need a seperate soundcard.
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October 21, 2013 2:34:11 PM

Quote:
What about a Asus A88XM-A and the 760k w/ the CM Hyper 212 evo
and some overclocking


If this combo helps you to get a more capable video card then yes absolutely.
October 21, 2013 2:40:40 PM

CTurbo said:
Quote:
What about a Asus A88XM-A and the 760k w/ the CM Hyper 212 evo
and some overclocking


If this combo helps you to get a more capable video card then yes absolutely.


Nope, lol, so the 7790 isnt enough? what about that 650 ti boost? or this guy?
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October 21, 2013 2:44:33 PM

Oh I just saw your partpicker build.

I think you would be better served by getting a HD 7870 or GTX 660 for only a tiny bit more money, or if you could wait a bit and get a HD 7950, GTX 6600ti, or a R9 270x
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October 21, 2013 2:51:42 PM

HD 7790 will handle 1080p but not easily.
HD 7850 would be considerably better and would handle 1080p rather smoothly.
HD 7870 is 10-20% better than 7850
GTX 660 is roughly equal to HD 7870
GTX 650ti would be a little bit worse than HD 7790.
I think the R7 260x comes somewhere in between the 7790 and the 7850.

Cards like HD 7950, GTX 660ti, or R9 270x would dominate 1080p.

October 21, 2013 3:11:34 PM

CTurbo said:
Oh I just saw your partpicker build.

I think you would be better served by getting a HD 7870 or GTX 660 for only a tiny bit more money, or if you could wait a bit and get a HD 7950, GTX 6600ti, or a R9 270x


Lol is all that needed for old games or lower end games, im using a 1440x900 monitor, pushing a little more than half the amout if oixels in 1080(ratio wise 12:20), i like this resolution, a 650 ti boost or 7850 oc wont do the job, darn
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October 21, 2013 3:16:33 PM

Quote:
Lol is all that needed for old games or lower end games, im using a 1440x900 monitor, i like this resolution, a 650 ti boost or 7850 oc wont do the job, darn


Well in that case a HD 7790 or R7 260X would be plenty good enough as would an Athlon x4 760k
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October 21, 2013 3:20:48 PM

What do you mean a 7850 won't do the job at 1440x900? That is incorrect. Any 7850 would dominate that resolution. Even a 650ti or a HD 7770 would handle it easily.
October 21, 2013 3:24:04 PM

CTurbo said:
What do you mean a 7850 won't do the job at 1440x900? That is incorrect. Any 7850 would dominate that resolution. Even a 650ti or a HD 7770 would handle it easily.


You said 7790 cant run at 1080, asked you if they would at my res, that made me confused.
October 21, 2013 3:37:58 PM

CTurbo said:
Quote:
Lol is all that needed for old games or lower end games, im using a 1440x900 monitor, i like this resolution, a 650 ti boost or 7850 oc wont do the job, darn


Well in that case a HD 7790 or R7 260X would be plenty good enough as would an Athlon x4 760k


except bo2 and bf4, but i can deal with low and med settings on that computer killer.
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October 21, 2013 3:51:00 PM

No I said the 7790 would run 1080p, it just won't do it easily. It will have to work hard, but it will do it.

Quote:
except bo2 and bf4, but i can deal with low and med settings on that computer killer.


Why do you think this? Have you seen benchmarks? If you are concerned, just get a 7850. It's only a little more $.

You could get 4.4ghz x 4 pretty easily out of a 760k with a 212 evo. Probably even higher. 4.6ghz is realistic.
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October 27, 2013 4:08:35 PM

just a heads up regarding overclocking i have my 760k at 4.5ghz stable at 1.5v with a mediocre board. great little overclocker
October 29, 2013 7:07:31 AM

So if planning a fm2+ build (i think i am) what gpu would be safest going forward with Kaveri? I am making an assumption here that pairing a discrete gpu with the kaveri's integrated graphics will be worth it in the future as everything i have read about combining integrated and discrete has been failure with current apu's. I am try to target a mobo. I think A88X might also be necessary to achieve this?
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October 29, 2013 7:11:11 AM

I just got my Gigabyte A88X in the mail yesterday! Your best bet is to go with one of AMD's newest R-line cards
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