FX 8350 vs I5 4670k for livestreaming* Gaming and video editing

Which is the better choice?

  • I5 3670k

    Votes: 1 100.0%
  • FX-8350

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    1

lolhate

Honorable
Jan 24, 2013
107
0
10,690
I would like your opinion on the matter, the big one is livestreaming.
Gaming I would reckon they are pretty similar real world performance there shouldn't be much of a difference.
Also video editing, how big is the gap between the I5 and the FX 8350? which is the better processor for editing and livestreaming?

Power consumption is null, overclocking is a maybe.
Which is the better overclocker?
Which will be better for livestreaming?
Which will be better for video editing without the use of the GPU while still gaming in the background?

Both of the processors are at a similar price range with intel motherboards costing slightly more money.

PS2 and WII emulation is a must.


Also, how will the two processors compare to intel's top of the line quad core processor (not extreme) I7 4770k?

 

Derppppp

Honorable
Aug 8, 2013
207
0
10,710
Those cores will come in handy if you are streaming, gaming and video editing. In gaming intel is slightly better and that's literally just 2-5%. And that will probably change as the next gen consoles have processors with an 8-core design and games will start to support more than 4 cores. Crysis 3 and BF4 already utilise more than 4 cores.

If you are recording while you game, then definitely AMD. You will also save yourself some money so you could also buy a Water cooler and overclock, AMD is better at this and all their processors are unlocked.

As for the i7, it's literally just an i5 just with Hyper-threading which games don't utilise anyway.

AMD is 35% better on Xsplit than the i7 4770k.

The FX line of CPUs ridicules the i7s in live-streaming.
 

lolhate

Honorable
Jan 24, 2013
107
0
10,690



So are there any benefits with paying the extra for the I7 4770k or going for the I5 4670K?
 

logainofhades

Titan
Moderator
Games are starting to take advantage of hyperthreading. I would go with an FX 8320 and put more money into GPU if you are budget constrained at all. FX 8350 is just an overclocked FX 8320. Average overclocks for the two are quite similar according to hwbot. FX 8320 is roughly $165 cheaper than a 4770k. The 4770k might be better, but not $165 better. That extra money would be better spent on a better GPU.
 

lolhate

Honorable
Jan 24, 2013
107
0
10,690


The FX 8320 is not available anywhere in this country, Only the FX 8350 is available.
Well, the FX-9370 is also available at the price of the I7 4770, but that's a waste of money.
 

Derppppp

Honorable
Aug 8, 2013
207
0
10,710


Improved rendering times, photoshop, after effects. You'll be able to use those programs without a problem. The only problem you do have is, however price. For gaming and streaming, there's no reason not to go with an 8350. A Phenom x6 (a VERY old CPU, about 3 years old now) was tested (in video rendering times) against an i7 (3770k) with hyper-threading and everything. The Phenom came 1:24 seconds after the i7. Imagine how much potential the Piledriver based CPUs have?
Watch this:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iCrOAng0kdQ&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DiCrOAng0kdQ

Save your money, and get the 8350. There are so many other things you could invest into. An SSD would help you A LOT (that is if you don't already have one).
 

vmN

Honorable
Oct 27, 2013
1,666
0
12,160
If you are going the AMD path, get a aftermarket cooler.
This is something I have experience:
My friend(owner of 8320) streaming with xsplit, when he turn on the stream his CPU usage instantly increases to 85%-100%.
Meanwhile me, the owner of a i7-4770k, using OBS(which also is known for using less CPU) my CPU usage only increase to maximum of 25%.
OBS recommend AMD fx users to only stream 30FPS(which can be more than enough for some games),
meanwhile the recommend Intel, i5/i7 to stream with 30-60 FPS.
If the budget isn't the problem go with Intel, if it is go with AMD.

 

lolhate

Honorable
Jan 24, 2013
107
0
10,690


Will the I7 4770k handle livestreaming better than the I5 4670k?
I can probably invest slightly more and get the I7 4770k.

If I can't put down the money for the I7 then I will definitely go with the FX 8350.

How does the I7 4770K compare to the FX 8350 for my purposes?

Once again emulation is a big factor and the single threaded performance of the 8350 worries me slightly seeing as most emulators don't use more than two cores.

I plan on running PCSX2 and dolphin.

I am currently running a first gen i3 540, how does the single threaded performance of the 8350 compares to the I3 540?
 

lolhate

Honorable
Jan 24, 2013
107
0
10,690
Take a look here and click the benchmarks tab at the top, it'll list single and multicore performance side by side. http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/311/AMD_FX-Series_FX-8350_vs_Intel_Core_i3_i3-540.html

Don't forget to look at the "Longer is better" and "Shorter is better" text

Ahh that's a big killer, It's nearly the same as my I3 meaning it won't really emulate things well.

The I7 is 58% better than the FX 8350 and the I3 540 for single threaded tasks meaning it'll emulate things much better.
 

8350rocks

Distinguished


The 8350 and 4770k are not drastically far apart in live streaming, in fact.

The only advantage the 4770k has is lightly threaded; however, for all 3 of the major tasks you listed above, there is a lot of software available that will use as many cores as you can throw at them.

The 8350 is about 10% behind Ivy Bridge, or about on par with Sandy Bridge in most applications. Which means the 8350 would still be a significant increase over your first gen i3.
 

lolhate

Honorable
Jan 24, 2013
107
0
10,690


That's true, and is why I am getting it over the I5 if I'm not getting the I7, game emulation is a big thing for me and the FX 8350 simply won't prove to be a big benefit over my first gen I3 in that area, Sure it beats out the I5 half of the time / at stuff I want it to and even matches the I7, but the I7 will provide me with the overall biggest benefit, though it'll probably be worse for livestreaming as proven by tek syndicate.
 

vmN

Honorable
Oct 27, 2013
1,666
0
12,160
I think we can all agree the days are gone.
Now it doesn't matter which CPU you have for livestreaming.
Get a Nvidia card.
Also it doesn't really matter how many cores they have.
The cores cannot perform more than the threads will allow them too(1 thread for 1 core IF you dont have hyperthreaded then it will be 2 threads per core), programs will normally only run on 1-4 threads, streaming can be spread out on all 8 threads.
 

vmN

Honorable
Oct 27, 2013
1,666
0
12,160

It wont be worse.
The only place where 8320 will beat a 4770k, would be a task that would run more than 50% on each core, but there are no applications that do so.
 

Derppppp

Honorable
Aug 8, 2013
207
0
10,710
Games are becoming multi threaded.
Look at the CPU requirements to run Watch Dogs at Ultra.
http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=4546&game=Watch%20Dogs

FX 8350 on par with Intel six core CPUs: http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=RmElDeQjqJ0u0M&tbnid=rPYfWpoXHeA1WM:&ved=0CAgQjRwwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.anandtech.com%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D2302954&ei=Oit5UrT-KI6o0wXKtIHwDA&psig=AFQjCNHWwm--uGeCj8swimrtcLThcfw7jw&ust=1383759034718951

BF4 also supports multiple cores, and the 8350 is a better overclocker, you can overclock it to reach speeds of a 9370.
 

Derppppp

Honorable
Aug 8, 2013
207
0
10,710
Games are becoming multi threaded.
Look at the CPU requirements to run Watch Dogs at Ultra.
http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=4546&game=Watch%20Dogs

FX 8350 on par with Intel six core CPUs: http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=RmElDeQjqJ0u0M&tbnid=rPYfWpoXHeA1WM:&ved=0CAgQjRwwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.anandtech.com%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D2302954&ei=Oit5UrT-KI6o0wXKtIHwDA&psig=AFQjCNHWwm--uGeCj8swimrtcLThcfw7jw&ust=1383759034718951

BF4 also supports multiple cores, and the 8350 is a better overclocker, you can overclock it to reach speeds of a 9370.
 

Derppppp

Honorable
Aug 8, 2013
207
0
10,710
Games are becoming multi threaded.
Look at the CPU requirements to run Watch Dogs at Ultra.
http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=4546&game=Watch%20Dogs

FX 8350 on par with Intel six core CPUs: http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=RmElDeQjqJ0u0M&tbnid=rPYfWpoXHeA1WM:&ved=0CAgQjRwwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.anandtech.com%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D2302954&ei=Oit5UrT-KI6o0wXKtIHwDA&psig=AFQjCNHWwm--uGeCj8swimrtcLThcfw7jw&ust=1383759034718951

BF4 also supports multiple cores, and the 8350 is a better overclocker, you can overclock it to reach speeds of a 9370.
 

gamer1411

Reputable
Jun 16, 2014
176
0
4,690


Intel is better,and voting is not working,because he made mistake.