What to get. 600$ budget.
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adrianAghaie
October 23, 2013 7:31:40 PM
Hello, I'm new(very new) and my job sadly pays me Bi-weekly, so in time for black friday deals, I'll only have 600$ give or take. So my question is this, I am starting my first build, and I was wondering, should I splurge my initial 600$(out of a 900$ over all budget)on a graphics card and processor?
I was thinking perhaps the Intel i5 3560k, and GeForce GTX 770. Again, I just snooped my nose around and figured those can both be had on black friday for a bit cheaper than their usual asking price.
Am I going a little overboard, or does that seem like a good place to start?(By december 22nd, I should have bought all my other components and such).
What complete build would you guys recommend for 900$, and could my above graphics card/processor be enough to play battlefield 4 on even medium/medium-high settings?
Again, sorry if I put this in the completely wrong area and if I sound like I have absolutely NO clue as to what I'm talking about.
I really want to convert from console gaming to PC, because it seems more cost effective over the long term(I can still use my PC for work, school, movies, play etc)
Help? PLz?
I was thinking perhaps the Intel i5 3560k, and GeForce GTX 770. Again, I just snooped my nose around and figured those can both be had on black friday for a bit cheaper than their usual asking price.
Am I going a little overboard, or does that seem like a good place to start?(By december 22nd, I should have bought all my other components and such).
What complete build would you guys recommend for 900$, and could my above graphics card/processor be enough to play battlefield 4 on even medium/medium-high settings?
Again, sorry if I put this in the completely wrong area and if I sound like I have absolutely NO clue as to what I'm talking about.
I really want to convert from console gaming to PC, because it seems more cost effective over the long term(I can still use my PC for work, school, movies, play etc)
Help? PLz?
More about : 600 budget
rolandzhang3
October 23, 2013 7:36:11 PM
adrianAghaie
October 23, 2013 8:10:09 PM
rolandzhang3 said:
The 3570k is a good choice, though you can get the 7970 or 280x for $100 less than the 770 and they perform similar to the 770. You could go with a Haswell 4670k instead if you are keen on new techCan you please put that in idiot terms?
280x? is that by Nvidia?..7970 is the radeon if I'm correct(they use large numbers)
I hear(read) that the 770 is a better choice than the 7970.
Could these level graphics cards come close to playing Battlefield 3/4, cod on full or medium settings?(I'm using FPS because they pretty much seem to set the bench mark of pushing graphical limits, aside from bioshock/skyrim)
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adrianAghaie
October 23, 2013 8:12:13 PM
adrianAghaie
October 23, 2013 9:22:37 PM
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1SwJh
Let me know if my research skills let me down, I went with a 760 because apparently a 770 is pointless for the extra money spent.
This is my first time using pcpartpicker, and I already went over my 800$ budget but not by much
..I'm assuming that by black friday, the deals will be better, so I'll probably end up saving even more!
I have a crappy keyboard and mouse which will do until i get more money.
Opinion, is this a good build for 800? what else am I missing?
Let me know if my research skills let me down, I went with a 760 because apparently a 770 is pointless for the extra money spent.
This is my first time using pcpartpicker, and I already went over my 800$ budget but not by much
..I'm assuming that by black friday, the deals will be better, so I'll probably end up saving even more!
I have a crappy keyboard and mouse which will do until i get more money.
Opinion, is this a good build for 800? what else am I missing?
rolandzhang3
October 23, 2013 9:46:27 PM
adrianAghaie
October 23, 2013 9:51:00 PM
rolandzhang3 said:
Haswell is newer tech as it uses socket 1150, ivy is lga 1155 which is being phased out, and the general consensus is to go with newer tech. You're not overclocking right? I'll see what I can do to edit that buildI'm swapping out the 2500k, replacing that outdated cooler with the Hyper 212 EVO
I'm probably not if the power produced by the CPU is enough to handle games like counter strike(both old one and new ones), and most other FPS, and maybe bioshock if the feeling arises. as long as I can buy nearly every game and not worry whether or not my rig will be powerful enough and I'll be happy...I want the GPU to last at least another 2-3 years.
adrianAghaie
October 23, 2013 9:52:56 PM
swap what you will, just keep it underish a 800$ budget.
and let me know what else I should add once I get the extra 100$
This build is strictly 800$ then another 200 will be improvements(minus keyboard and mouse)
I also have a 32 inch HDTV which isn't ideal for computer gaming, but will suffice for now.
and let me know what else I should add once I get the extra 100$
This build is strictly 800$ then another 200 will be improvements(minus keyboard and mouse)
I also have a 32 inch HDTV which isn't ideal for computer gaming, but will suffice for now.
rolandzhang3
October 23, 2013 9:58:45 PM
jpmeneses21
October 23, 2013 10:00:10 PM
You have a good starting budget. Why splurge 600 bucks on a GFX card and processor? I assume you're building a gaming PC from scratch. Please do avoid buying components on an "installment" or per-batch basis. It's still best getting all the components you need in a single purchase, because just in case you get a defective component after putting it all together, you can have it returned immediately. You know what I mean.
Your $600 budget can get the following, and will also give you enough room for future upgrades, should you have the additional $300 (or even more in the next 1 or 2 years) to complete your target $900 build. Here's my list of recommended parts for the intial 600 bucks. Please take note that this is just for the box (the gaming PC itself). The peripherals and the computer monitor isn't included.
$190 (Intel Core i5 4430) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I assume you won't be overclocking your CPU? This chip isn't overclockable, but the i5 4430 is the best bang-for-buck quad-core CPU you can get right now. It's got the processing power that won't bottleneck the latest graphics cards, plus its got ample integrated graphics that will get you up and gaming in no time. Don't expect too much from the graphics performance though.
$100 (Asrock H87 Fatal1ty) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ASrock makes really good motherboards. They're not as as famous as ASUS, Gigabyte, or MSI in the US, but I've read somewhere that they're number 1 in South Korea or Japan, I think. I can't find a better motherboard in the sub-$100 range. It's got 2 USB connectors that will surely go well with the case I recommended.
$93 (Kingston Hyper-X 2x4GB) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
This is just my personal preference, but any RAM will do. I chose this because this is a low profile RAM, meaning, it won't get in the way of air coolers just in case you want to add one in the future. Just keep it under 100 bucks for a 2x 4GB sticks.
$80 (Corsair CX600M) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Actually, a 500-watt PSU will do fine. But since we're "futureproofing" this build, a 600-watt PSU should be enough. This is enough to power a mid to high-end system sporting the most powerful single graphics cards today such as the GTX 780, a R9 290X, or even a Titan.
$103 (Samsung 840 120GB) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Again, another personal preference. You can swap this with a capacious, 1TB HDD for the same (or even less) price if you prefer storage space over speed and performance.
$70 (CM Storm Enforcer) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Again, another personal preference. I recommend this case because it's got decent air cooling options with its 200mm front and top fans that should get a lot of air moving inside. Also, it has an acrylic sidepanel to showoff your hardwork, and a good cable management system for that clean look. It also have 2 USB 3.0 ports that matches with the 2 USB 3.0 internal connectors of the ASrock motherboard I recommended. There are lots of other good cases in this price range, but this particular case is the one I could think of right now that ticks all the right boxes for a budget case.
OPTIONAL: $20 (Samsung DVD-RW) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I think this is pretty self-explanatory. Get this if you need a physical drive for transferring files, etc.
Total: $636
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Now here's the tricky part. You won't be playing Battlefield 4 (or any graphics/cpu-intensive games) in the highest settings right now, but the integrated graphics of the i5 4430 should get you decent FPS in the lowest settings at 720p resolution (1280x720 or 1366x768.)
Now, should you have the $300, you can get either of the videocards below:
$300 (Sapphire Radeon R9 280X) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
This is the best videocard you can get for 300 bucks that's also happens to be "optimized" for Battlefield 4, since AMD and DICE (the devs of the game) are now partners (as opposed to BF3's DICE and Nvdia partnership). Also, the 3GB memory, and 384-bit bandwidth is plenty huge already. You'll also be assured that the performance of this card won't be compromised by the i5 4430 CPU I recommended earlier.
$260 (MSI N760 TF) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Should you find yourself short of $300, this card should also be more than enough for most games. I will spare you the numbers, but this card is slightly less faster (maybe around 10 to 15%) than the 280X above. It's got decent cooling, and overclocks well. Specs if this card is 2GB of RAM, with 256-Bit of bandwidth.
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Then, maybe in a year or two, you can add the following that can still improve your PC in terms of overall performance and experience.
Additional 2x4GB RAM (should be same brand, model, and specs of what's already in your system to avoid any performance issues)
CPU Cooler (Can be either Air, or AIO Liquid Cooling Systems)
Additional Storage (A 1 or 2 TB HDD if you opted for the SSD earlier, vice-versa)
And of course, a new videocard of your choosing. But this should be less likely, as the videocards I mentioned earlier should be good for the next 3 years max.
There you have it. I apologize for such a lengthy post! Hope this helps.
Your $600 budget can get the following, and will also give you enough room for future upgrades, should you have the additional $300 (or even more in the next 1 or 2 years) to complete your target $900 build. Here's my list of recommended parts for the intial 600 bucks. Please take note that this is just for the box (the gaming PC itself). The peripherals and the computer monitor isn't included.
$190 (Intel Core i5 4430) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I assume you won't be overclocking your CPU? This chip isn't overclockable, but the i5 4430 is the best bang-for-buck quad-core CPU you can get right now. It's got the processing power that won't bottleneck the latest graphics cards, plus its got ample integrated graphics that will get you up and gaming in no time. Don't expect too much from the graphics performance though.
$100 (Asrock H87 Fatal1ty) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ASrock makes really good motherboards. They're not as as famous as ASUS, Gigabyte, or MSI in the US, but I've read somewhere that they're number 1 in South Korea or Japan, I think. I can't find a better motherboard in the sub-$100 range. It's got 2 USB connectors that will surely go well with the case I recommended.
$93 (Kingston Hyper-X 2x4GB) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
This is just my personal preference, but any RAM will do. I chose this because this is a low profile RAM, meaning, it won't get in the way of air coolers just in case you want to add one in the future. Just keep it under 100 bucks for a 2x 4GB sticks.
$80 (Corsair CX600M) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Actually, a 500-watt PSU will do fine. But since we're "futureproofing" this build, a 600-watt PSU should be enough. This is enough to power a mid to high-end system sporting the most powerful single graphics cards today such as the GTX 780, a R9 290X, or even a Titan.
$103 (Samsung 840 120GB) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Again, another personal preference. You can swap this with a capacious, 1TB HDD for the same (or even less) price if you prefer storage space over speed and performance.
$70 (CM Storm Enforcer) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Again, another personal preference. I recommend this case because it's got decent air cooling options with its 200mm front and top fans that should get a lot of air moving inside. Also, it has an acrylic sidepanel to showoff your hardwork, and a good cable management system for that clean look. It also have 2 USB 3.0 ports that matches with the 2 USB 3.0 internal connectors of the ASrock motherboard I recommended. There are lots of other good cases in this price range, but this particular case is the one I could think of right now that ticks all the right boxes for a budget case.
OPTIONAL: $20 (Samsung DVD-RW) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I think this is pretty self-explanatory. Get this if you need a physical drive for transferring files, etc.
Total: $636
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---------
Now here's the tricky part. You won't be playing Battlefield 4 (or any graphics/cpu-intensive games) in the highest settings right now, but the integrated graphics of the i5 4430 should get you decent FPS in the lowest settings at 720p resolution (1280x720 or 1366x768.)
Now, should you have the $300, you can get either of the videocards below:
$300 (Sapphire Radeon R9 280X) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
This is the best videocard you can get for 300 bucks that's also happens to be "optimized" for Battlefield 4, since AMD and DICE (the devs of the game) are now partners (as opposed to BF3's DICE and Nvdia partnership). Also, the 3GB memory, and 384-bit bandwidth is plenty huge already. You'll also be assured that the performance of this card won't be compromised by the i5 4430 CPU I recommended earlier.
$260 (MSI N760 TF) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Should you find yourself short of $300, this card should also be more than enough for most games. I will spare you the numbers, but this card is slightly less faster (maybe around 10 to 15%) than the 280X above. It's got decent cooling, and overclocks well. Specs if this card is 2GB of RAM, with 256-Bit of bandwidth.
---------
---------
Then, maybe in a year or two, you can add the following that can still improve your PC in terms of overall performance and experience.
Additional 2x4GB RAM (should be same brand, model, and specs of what's already in your system to avoid any performance issues)
CPU Cooler (Can be either Air, or AIO Liquid Cooling Systems)
Additional Storage (A 1 or 2 TB HDD if you opted for the SSD earlier, vice-versa)
And of course, a new videocard of your choosing. But this should be less likely, as the videocards I mentioned earlier should be good for the next 3 years max.
There you have it. I apologize for such a lengthy post! Hope this helps.
rolandzhang3
October 23, 2013 10:02:51 PM
^I have the Storm Enforcer, it's okay for the most part but the front fan dust filters are a bloody pain
Also, the AMD r9 280x is essentially a 7970 running at 950MHz
Well if it was strictly $600 then this is as balanced as I can go
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1QXIy
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($117.97 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($47.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($55.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cougar Spike MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $604.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-24 01:16 EDT-0400)
Here's a non overclocking build (still added a CPU cooler because I like seeing low temperatures
)
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1SxgR
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($213.95 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock B85M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($66.97 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case ($46.24 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($31.00 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $803.08
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-24 01:16 EDT-0400)
You could go with a better motherboard like the one in the post suggested above, and a better version of the 7970 like the XFX which is $280 after rebates. I just chose those above for the sake of keeping closer to $800
A word of warning with that hard drive though, it uses Advanced power management so it parks its heads very frequently, over a few months this may kill the drive so use a program like QuietHDD to disable the APM.
The method is to use Task scheduler to schedule and run QuietHDD at the logon of any user, and set the APM value in QuietHDD to 255 (meaning disable)
If you extended your budget a bit more you could add a 120gig SSD as a boot drive
btw the 7970 in my list is $250 after rebates so timing matters xD
Either of these builds would play games well without having to wait
Also, the AMD r9 280x is essentially a 7970 running at 950MHz
Well if it was strictly $600 then this is as balanced as I can go
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1QXIy
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($117.97 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($47.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($55.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cougar Spike MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $604.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-24 01:16 EDT-0400)
Here's a non overclocking build (still added a CPU cooler because I like seeing low temperatures
)http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1SxgR
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($213.95 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock B85M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($66.97 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case ($46.24 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($31.00 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $803.08
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-24 01:16 EDT-0400)
You could go with a better motherboard like the one in the post suggested above, and a better version of the 7970 like the XFX which is $280 after rebates. I just chose those above for the sake of keeping closer to $800
A word of warning with that hard drive though, it uses Advanced power management so it parks its heads very frequently, over a few months this may kill the drive so use a program like QuietHDD to disable the APM.
The method is to use Task scheduler to schedule and run QuietHDD at the logon of any user, and set the APM value in QuietHDD to 255 (meaning disable)
If you extended your budget a bit more you could add a 120gig SSD as a boot drive
btw the 7970 in my list is $250 after rebates so timing matters xD
Either of these builds would play games well without having to wait
adrianAghaie
October 23, 2013 10:46:03 PM
rolandzhang3 said:
^I have the Storm Enforcer, it's okay for the most part but the front fan dust filters are a bloody painAlso, the AMD r9 280x is essentially a 7970 running at 950MHz
Well if it was strictly $600 then this is as balanced as I can go
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1QXIy
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($117.97 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($47.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($55.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cougar Spike MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $604.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-24 01:16 EDT-0400)
Here's a non overclocking build (still added a CPU cooler because I like seeing low temperatures
)http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1SxgR
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($213.95 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock B85M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($66.97 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case ($46.24 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($31.00 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $803.08
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-24 01:16 EDT-0400)
You could go with a better motherboard like the one in the post suggested above, and a better version of the 7970 like the XFX which is $280 after rebates. I just chose those above for the sake of keeping closer to $800
A word of warning with that hard drive though, it uses Advanced power management so it parks its heads very frequently, over a few months this may kill the drive so use a program like QuietHDD to disable the APM.
The method is to use Task scheduler to schedule and run QuietHDD at the logon of any user, and set the APM value in QuietHDD to 255 (meaning disable)
If you extended your budget a bit more you could add a 120gig SSD as a boot drive
btw the 7970 in my list is $250 after rebates so timing matters xD
Either of these builds would play games well without having to wait
I like the second build more.
If I have nearly 800$ I want to stuff as much stuff in as I possibly can, as that would make more sense, and I'll do improvements over time when I get more money. Your second set up looks like it can slam practically every game out there, so I'm not worried.
I'm definitely saving those options and can probably get them WAY cheaper when black friday comes along!
adrianAghaie
October 23, 2013 10:51:47 PM
adrianAghaie
October 23, 2013 10:51:47 PM
so is the GeForce 760 not a good pick?
"$300 (Sapphire Radeon R9 280X) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
This is the best videocard you can get for 300 bucks that's also happens to be "optimized" for Battlefield 4, since AMD and DICE (the devs of the game) are now partners (as opposed to BF3's DICE and Nvdia partnership). Also, the 3GB memory, and 384-bit bandwidth is plenty huge already. You'll also be assured that the performance of this card won't be compromised by the i5 4430 CPU I recommended earlier."
I am going to keep an eye out and pray to the good lord above that this goes on sale during black friday.
Do you guys know if many computer components go on sale during black friday? because I know consoles and other things do, just not sure about computer hardware.
I figured if things DO in fact go on sale, I can get better performance products for the money.
I just want to spend more on CPU/GPU since those seem to be the things that matter when it comes to longevity of your rig.
Again, I'll probably post a finalized purchase list when I find out exactly what will be on sale, and I'll probably have a bit over 830$ total once I save up my change and other things like that.
800 is my hard limit, but I mean, it will probably fluctuate, and I'm definitely bookmarking this for information given to me(and will be given to me through out the night)
Thanks a zillion guys!
"$300 (Sapphire Radeon R9 280X) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
This is the best videocard you can get for 300 bucks that's also happens to be "optimized" for Battlefield 4, since AMD and DICE (the devs of the game) are now partners (as opposed to BF3's DICE and Nvdia partnership). Also, the 3GB memory, and 384-bit bandwidth is plenty huge already. You'll also be assured that the performance of this card won't be compromised by the i5 4430 CPU I recommended earlier."
I am going to keep an eye out and pray to the good lord above that this goes on sale during black friday.
Do you guys know if many computer components go on sale during black friday? because I know consoles and other things do, just not sure about computer hardware.
I figured if things DO in fact go on sale, I can get better performance products for the money.
I just want to spend more on CPU/GPU since those seem to be the things that matter when it comes to longevity of your rig.
Again, I'll probably post a finalized purchase list when I find out exactly what will be on sale, and I'll probably have a bit over 830$ total once I save up my change and other things like that.
800 is my hard limit, but I mean, it will probably fluctuate, and I'm definitely bookmarking this for information given to me(and will be given to me through out the night)
Thanks a zillion guys!
rolandzhang3
October 23, 2013 11:01:42 PM
adrianAghaie
October 23, 2013 11:08:23 PM
dude, I just saw the Sapphire Radeon R9 280X, it's apparently a little less powerful than a 780 yet way cheaper and when OC'ed it's almost as fast ....I WANT IT IN MY RIG...IDC, I'm setting aside 300$ just for that...no one can tell me otherwise, and I'm showing it off as the crown jewel of my rig..gonna see if I can get the "toxic edition"...
it's so pretty...it lights up.
I think I have the PC gaming bug...why did it take so long?!
:edit: Just saw the price of the "toxic edition". 359$..just kidding..carry on.
it's so pretty...it lights up.
I think I have the PC gaming bug...why did it take so long?!
:edit: Just saw the price of the "toxic edition". 359$..just kidding..carry on.
jpmeneses21
October 23, 2013 11:17:58 PM
The GTX 760 is not a bad card. The better term should be "sufficient" or "more than able." I own a GTX 760 (because I got tired of waiting for the R9 280X, lol), but I have to admit that the R9 280X is the best card you can get for $300 right now.
As zhang said, a 7970 is also a better card over the 760 by about 10 to 15%. To keep things simple, the R9 280X is basically a re-badged 7970, which means that they're using the same GPU. There are just a few minor advantages of the 280X over the 7970, like support for DX11.2. But that feature can be skipped for now as most games today aren't taking advantage of DX11.2 yet.
But who knows, some or most games in the following months or years might take full advantage of DX11.2? That is if you're running Windows 8 (because windows 7 doesn't support DX 11.2). You might want to go for the R9 280X if this is the case.
Just go for the card with the best deal.
As zhang said, a 7970 is also a better card over the 760 by about 10 to 15%. To keep things simple, the R9 280X is basically a re-badged 7970, which means that they're using the same GPU. There are just a few minor advantages of the 280X over the 7970, like support for DX11.2. But that feature can be skipped for now as most games today aren't taking advantage of DX11.2 yet.
But who knows, some or most games in the following months or years might take full advantage of DX11.2? That is if you're running Windows 8 (because windows 7 doesn't support DX 11.2). You might want to go for the R9 280X if this is the case.
Just go for the card with the best deal.
rolandzhang3
October 23, 2013 11:21:26 PM
jpmeneses21
October 23, 2013 11:28:12 PM
Yes, I'm still using Windows 7, but is quite familiar with how Windows 8 behaves by using other computers. I'm still not upgrading, because personally, Windows 8 haven't "matured" yet.
But I've been reading a lot of good reviews of W8.1 already. Also, the new DX11.2 looks promising.
I have yet to try the new Windows 8.1
But I've been reading a lot of good reviews of W8.1 already. Also, the new DX11.2 looks promising.
I have yet to try the new Windows 8.1
adrianAghaie
October 23, 2013 11:28:47 PM
jpmeneses21 said:
The GTX 760 is not a bad card. The better term should be "sufficient" or "more than able." I own a GTX 760 (because I got tired of waiting for the R9 280X, lol), but I have to admit that the R9 280X is the best card you can get for $300 right now.As zhang said, a 7970 is also a better card over the 760 by about 10 to 15%. To keep things simple, the R9 280X is basically a re-badged 7970, which means that they're using the same GPU. There are just a few minor advantages of the 280X over the 7970, like support for DX11.2. But that feature can be skipped for now as most games today aren't taking advantage of DX11.2 yet.
But who knows, some or most games in the following months or years might take full advantage of DX11.2? That is if you're running Windows 8 (because windows 7 doesn't support DX 11.2). You might want to go for the R9 280X if this is the case.
Just go for the card with the best deal.
So if the 7970 is the same as the 280x, how is the 280x the best card on the market for that price? or are you saying both 7970 and 280x are clumped together with no real difference between the two.
and by deal I believe you mean which ever goes on sale and is cheaper correct?
I'm seriously sorry for sounding so dumb, I just want to learn as much as I can, that way I can also hopefully be knowledgeable so I can actually contribute to these boards soon enough.
P.s, I'm probably going to run a linux set up until I finish the computer, then get windows 8. Or if my friend has any windows software(xp,vista,7) then I'm just bumming the copy off him until I upgrade.
rolandzhang3
October 23, 2013 11:40:42 PM
jpmeneses21
October 23, 2013 11:42:40 PM
What I meant by that, is that the R9 280X is the best "current" videocard in the $300 range, as it was launched just a few days ago.
The 7970, even though it shares the same GPU as the R9 280X, is cheaper now because the 7970 has already been replaced by the R9 280X. In short, the 7970 is already considered as "old" tech, in spite of it being still able to trade punches with a GTX 770, or in some occasions, even a 780.
Just go for the best deal. That means, whichever is cheaper. If you are running windows 7, go for the 7970. DX11.2 is only for Windows 8, and using an R9 280X in a windows 7 environment is just the same as a 7970.
Another real advantage of the R9 280X is that, for some reason, OEMs like Sapphire seem to have done a better job of squeezing out more performance in terms of cooling and raw power from the "Tahiti" silicon its using. And of course, it's newer. But that's just it, really.
The 7970, even though it shares the same GPU as the R9 280X, is cheaper now because the 7970 has already been replaced by the R9 280X. In short, the 7970 is already considered as "old" tech, in spite of it being still able to trade punches with a GTX 770, or in some occasions, even a 780.
Just go for the best deal. That means, whichever is cheaper. If you are running windows 7, go for the 7970. DX11.2 is only for Windows 8, and using an R9 280X in a windows 7 environment is just the same as a 7970.
Another real advantage of the R9 280X is that, for some reason, OEMs like Sapphire seem to have done a better job of squeezing out more performance in terms of cooling and raw power from the "Tahiti" silicon its using. And of course, it's newer. But that's just it, really.
rolandzhang3
October 23, 2013 11:45:25 PM
adrianAghaie
October 23, 2013 11:49:42 PM
rolandzhang3 said:
Exactly, that's why the 7970 is at a pretty good price point right now, the 7970 GHz edition is the card that can compete with the 780 in a few gamesokay, thanks guys!
I'm probably going to roll with a windows 8 before next year, so from what I'm hearing, I might as well get the 280x, and it's new..so I kind of want to stick with as much "new" as I possibly can in my first rig..I'm just picky like that
thanks again peoples!
and if anyone else decides to chime in, more opinions the better!
rolandzhang3
October 23, 2013 11:53:45 PM
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