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November 5, 2013 2:32:33 PM

Hello so i have decided to switch over to PC gaming instead of buying a new Xbox or Play Station and the PC just seems Superior and its where my love for video games first started. I'm ordering from Ironside Computers and have customized the computer a bit. So i'm just wondering if everything look good and will be able to run current and future games for the next year or two before having to change anything. The computer will be Used just for gaming and that's it. Maybe photo editing here and there but nothing major and nothing im worried about. I Have a mac book for Day to day things. Heres the build:


Case - NZXT Apollo Black (Mid Tower)
Custom Airbrush Logos & Emblems - None
Custom Airbrushed Gamertags - None
Additional Case Fans - None
Internal Lighting - None
Intel Processor - [Overclockable] Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz (Quad Core)
CPU Cooling - COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus
PC Liquid Coolant - None / Clear
Liquid Cooling Tubing Color - Clear / None
Intel Motherboard - MSI Z87-G41 [4 DDR3 Memory Slots]
Overclocking Processor - [FREE] Overclock Processor up to 10%
Overclock Protection Warranty - None
Overclocking Graphics Card - Overclock 1 x Graphics Card to Max Speed
Memory - Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz
Memory Cooling - None
Primary Hard Drive - Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB SSD Read: 540MB/s Write: 520MB/s
Hard Drive Cooling - Hard Drive Cooling Fan Aluminum Internal
Secondary Hard Drive - 1TB 7200 RPM
1st Optical Drive - DVD Writer
2nd Optical Drive - None
Graphics Card - Nvidia Geforce GTX 580 3GB (Min. 650 Watt Power Supply)
Liquid Cool Graphics Card - None
[SLI / X-fire] Second Video Card - None
[SLI / X-fire] Liquid Cool Graphics card - None
[3-way SLI / X-fire] Third Graphics Card - None
[3-Way SLI / X-fire] Liquid Cool Graphics Card - None
Power Supply - Standard 700 Watt
Operating System - Windows 8 64 Bit
Networking - Internal Wireless N 300Mbps
Fan Controller - None
Media Card Readers - None
Sound Card - Integrated HD Audio
PC Games - None
Office Software - None
Antivirus Software - None
Monitor - None
Second Monitor - None
Mouse - None
Keyboard - None
Speakers & Headsets - None
Packaging - [FREE] Advanced Packaging System - Custom foam to protect and secure internal components from shipping abuse
Wiring - [FREE] Professional Wiring - Cables will be organized to achieve maximum airflow
Technical Support - Life-time U.S. based technical support and customer service by our own in-house technicians
Rush Service - [Standard] Shipped Out in 2 - 10 Business Days
Video Demonstration - None
Warranty - Standard 3 Years Parts and 3 Years Labor
November 5, 2013 2:37:07 PM

580, meh on the video card.
November 5, 2013 2:43:01 PM

getochkn said:
580, meh on the video card.


What would you suggest for it?
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November 5, 2013 2:43:54 PM

MAKE SURE the PSu is antec, XFX, COrsair, Seasonic.

Alo, get a modern gPU. The 580 is 3+ years old.
November 5, 2013 2:55:32 PM

tiny voices said:
MAKE SURE the PSu is antec, XFX, COrsair, Seasonic.

Alo, get a modern gPU. The 580 is 3+ years old.


Alright went with a Corsair psu (650 watts)
and how about the Nvidia Geforce GTX 760 2gb for the GPU?
November 5, 2013 3:02:34 PM

Yes, that is a GREAT PSU and GPU choice.
November 5, 2013 4:31:45 PM

MonstersReign said:
Any other Opinions?


Convert to ASUS,Gigabyte or Asrock in motherborad.
MSI is not as good as they are perfect if you want my opinion MSI is Shit.

Update: SLI cant help in FPS improvement more then 10% to 15% and its for 3 or more monitors on high resolutions. if you have below 27" monitor and 1080p resolution then putting 2 or 3 old mans like 580 never helps put single 760 or 780 GTX and have a powerful beast.
November 5, 2013 4:41:10 PM

It is good although it would be cheaper if you built your own computer.


November 5, 2013 4:50:11 PM

sora said:
It is good although it would be cheaper if you built your own computer.




Haha yes about $200. Im looking into that right now. Heres the build if i did it myself
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1XZEW
November 5, 2013 4:52:17 PM

sora said:
It is good although it would be cheaper if you built your own computer.



If your talking about MSI G41 series then i totally disagree.
MSI is not even a better manufacturer and G41 and G31 series of MSI is officially a failed product in any regard. 59% warranty clams, 16% dead out of box, 16% dead in one year and never get better again.
is it good for your home build ?
November 5, 2013 4:53:39 PM

Alpha-Black said:
MonstersReign said:
Any other Opinions?


Convert to ASUS,Gigabyte or Asrock in motherborad.
MSI is not as good as they are perfect if you want my opinion MSI is Shit.

Update: SLI cant help in FPS improvement more then 10% to 15% and its for 3 or more monitors on high resolutions. if you have below 27" monitor and 1080p resolution then putting 2 or 3 old mans like 580 never helps put single 760 or 780 GTX and have a powerful beast.


What are you talking about?

I have 2 gtx560s and they scale almost 100% thats 2x the FPS in some games. SLI can DEFINITELY do better than 10-15%.

November 5, 2013 4:54:50 PM

Alpha-Black said:
sora said:
It is good although it would be cheaper if you built your own computer.



If your talking about MSI G41 series then i totally disagree.
MSI is not even a better manufacturer and G41 and G31 series of MSI is officially a failed product in any regard. 59% warranty clams, 16% dead out of box, 16% dead in one year and never get better again.
is it good for your home build ?


For what it is worth, I have used 4 MSI boards in the last 6 years and NONE of them are problematic at all. The three I still have all run perfectly.
November 5, 2013 4:57:01 PM

MonstersReign said:
sora said:
It is good although it would be cheaper if you built your own computer.




Haha yes about $200. Im looking into that right now. Heres the build if i did it myself
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1XZEW


PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/15KBa
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/15KBa/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/15KBa/benchmarks/

Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($335.91 @ Newegg)
Total: $335.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-05 19:54 EST-0500)
This one is better then R9 290x trust me i recommend you not put money of cheap weak core GPU . buy GTX770 or GTX 780 its much better in core power what you need in gaming.
November 5, 2013 5:00:28 PM

You are simply wrong. The 290x is on par with the 780ti. It will demolish the 770 in any game.
November 5, 2013 5:02:00 PM

tiny voices said:
Alpha-Black said:
sora said:
It is good although it would be cheaper if you built your own computer.



If your talking about MSI G41 series then i totally disagree.
MSI is not even a better manufacturer and G41 and G31 series of MSI is officially a failed product in any regard. 59% warranty clams, 16% dead out of box, 16% dead in one year and never get better again.
is it good for your home build ?


For what it is worth, I have used 4 MSI boards in the last 6 years and NONE of them are problematic at all. The three I still have all run perfectly.

Yeah you have Z77 series ..Open your eyes and Read G-41 i'm talking about .....even in z77 line MSI is never better then ASUS and Gigabyte .
i don't know your a sales man from MSI here or not but you seem always misguiding people here about MSI. i have 2 msi 1 Asus 1 Asrock 8 Gigabyte boards running in my lab.
i know difference i'll never Suggest MSI below Z77 Series.
in GPU.Never till now.
coz you have something work for you as your lower requirements dosen't means that is better product.
PEOPLE WANT TO GET BETTER.
November 5, 2013 5:10:50 PM

tiny voices said:
Yes I used a Z77 G-41 board for 2 years. The G-41 board IS a z77 board. Please do not call people out without knowing what YOU are talking about. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I am not a salesman. I just have always had good luck with them.

G-41 was not good product in many regards. worked for you its your luck.
Yeah .Z77 and above.i'll recommend MSI my self for a better rig.

November 5, 2013 5:16:05 PM

I have only had experience with their z77 boards, one fm2 board, and an old am3 board. I have never used a b75, h61, etc. So I cannot speak for those, to be fair.
November 5, 2013 5:23:40 PM

tiny voices said:
I have only had experience with their z77 boards, one fm2 board, and an old am3 board. I have never used a b75, h61, etc. So I cannot speak for those, to be fair.


And its my Job to check every single board coming out of main companies and memory sticks and graphic cards too.
ASUS, Gigabyte,ASrock
Then MSI ,EVGA
and other Scrap
in graphic cards
ASUS,Gigabyte,MSI ,EVGA, and others
Memory sticks.OMG.....LONG line.make me made when new stuff comes out of die.LOL.
but coresair,G.Skill,kingston,
These are the rankings.
November 5, 2013 5:24:58 PM

tiny voices said:
I have only had experience with their z77 boards, one fm2 board, and an old am3 board. I have never used a b75, h61, etc. So I cannot speak for those, to be fair.


And its my Job to check every single board coming out of main companies and memory sticks and graphic cards too.
ASUS, Gigabyte,ASrock
Then MSI ,EVGA
and other Scrap
in graphic cards
ASUS,Gigabyte,MSI ,EVGA, and others
Memory sticks.OMG.....LONG line.make me mad when new stuff comes out of die.LOL.
but coresair,G.Skill,kingston,
These are the rankings.
November 5, 2013 5:25:21 PM

tiny voices said:
I have only had experience with their z77 boards, one fm2 board, and an old am3 board. I have never used a b75, h61, etc. So I cannot speak for those, to be fair.


And its my Job to check every single board coming out of main companies and memory sticks and graphic cards too.
ASUS, Gigabyte,ASrock
Then MSI ,EVGA
and other Scrap
in graphic cards
ASUS,Gigabyte,MSI ,EVGA, and others
Memory sticks.OMG.....LONG line.make me mad when new stuff comes out of die.LOL.
but coresair,G.Skill,kingston,
These are the rankings.
November 5, 2013 5:33:27 PM

Alright so i switched to the ASUS Z87-A Motherboard and i'm going to go with the Nvidia Geforce GTX 760 and 2TB Hard drive. (Secondary). I feel its a pretty good build for a first computer and will be able to run games like Skyrim Guild wars 2, star craft, WoW and AC 4 (Hopefully lol). I also dont mind playing games at Medium quality if need be. I feel like medium quality can still compare to the Xbox One and Ps4 counter parts. If i am wrong please correct me. Then later down the rode i can replace things as needed

Update: Also do you think the Corsair 650 watt PSU can handle all of it? or should i go with the 750 watt?
November 5, 2013 5:45:17 PM

You will be playing those at max or high with those specs.

Yes 650w is more than enough.

November 5, 2013 7:05:10 PM

MonstersReign said:
Alright so i switched to the ASUS Z87-A Motherboard and i'm going to go with the Nvidia Geforce GTX 760 and 2TB Hard drive. (Secondary). I feel its a pretty good build for a first computer and will be able to run games like Skyrim Guild wars 2, star craft, WoW and AC 4 (Hopefully lol). I also dont mind playing games at Medium quality if need be. I feel like medium quality can still compare to the Xbox One and Ps4 counter parts. If i am wrong please correct me. Then later down the rode i can replace things as needed

Update: Also do you think the Corsair 650 watt PSU can handle all of it? or should i go with the 750 watt?

650 is enough as tiny voices said he is just right.
and Z-87-A is one of the best choices.
760 GTX is better then others .
Remember to get a seagate HDD with tag of Barracuda. 7200 rpm
WD Blue is better but not better then Seagate barracuda.
November 5, 2013 7:44:31 PM

You could always get more power if you plan to overclock or do a SLI/Crossfire configuration.
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