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HD 7750 vs R7 250 ?

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November 10, 2013 12:08:03 AM

1 .Sapphire R7 250 1GB GDDR5
http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?cid=1...

2. Sapphire HD 7750 1GB GDDR5
http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?cid=1...

Graphic master.. which is better ?

More about : 7750 250

a c 500 U Graphics card
November 10, 2013 12:30:44 AM

The 7750 is better, the 250 is just a rebadged 8670 which is much weaker than the 7750
November 10, 2013 12:44:36 AM

rolandzhang3 said:
The 7750 is better, the 250 is just a rebadged 8670 which is much weaker than the 7750


Haha..you again !
according to the links above, it seems like R7 250 have more .....umm..how to say that.....aha it have AMD Stream Technology,AMD Avivo HD,Mantle,DirectX® 11.2,OpenGL 4.3, and TriXX Utility that HD 7750 don't have...

and newer chip set.. and more beautiful box xD
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November 10, 2013 12:51:44 AM

rolandzhang3 said:
Haha have I posted on your thread before?

Check this thread and you'll see, if you want to take advantage of that new technology, a better card would be recommended

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1840450/250-7750....


what's the different for direct x 11.2 and 11.1 , open gl 4.2 and 4.3 ?
November 10, 2013 1:51:14 AM

rolandzhang3 said:
They are all APIs for rendering graphics, Directx 11.1 and 11.2 are currently locked to Windows 8

From this it seems that all 7750s are based on the GCN architecture which allows for mantle

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5881/amd-announces-a-new-...


Mine is the old 7750 which not for mantle..is the performance of 7750 is just a little better than R7 250 ? if yes, why dont we just get the R7 250,because my friend said newer graphic card is better becuz of newer chipset and technology
a c 500 U Graphics card
November 10, 2013 1:58:04 AM

The 250 is not really newer tech, it's a rebranded OEM 8670, the old 7750 is still GCN based so mantle is still supported

If you already have the 7750 don't go for the 250, at least go for the 260x if you want an upgrade (hopefully your PSU is good enough too)
December 10, 2013 1:58:42 AM

I'm now concerned reading this!
I bought a new PC from Freshtech Solutions on eBay (delivery is tomorrow) and the main description was
"AMD FX 6300 3.5Ghz Gaming Pc Windows7 SSD 8Gb Ddr3 ATI HD 7750 2GB ZT3"
They changed the description a few days later in the item details section to:
"Graphics Card : Upgraded to Latest Radeon R7 250 2gb ddr3"
I only spotted it a few days after the order went thru.

I did a lot of digging and by all accounts the 250 would not be considered an 'upgrade' to the 7750.
I contacted them and explained that as they had changed the description after I had bookmarked the item I never spotted the change.
I asked would they put a better card in to in fact make it 'an upgrade' but they basically fobbed me off and sent the system anyway.
Now I feel like I've been had.

Any thoughts on this? Would you accept this card as an "upgrade"?
I'm waiting until they open to ring them because I feel like returning the system altogether for a full refund now. :-(
a c 500 U Graphics card
December 10, 2013 1:59:56 AM

The 250 is essentyally an 8670/7730 so it's a downgrade, they don't sound like the type of people I'd do business with
December 10, 2013 2:10:45 AM

Thanks for the reply.
I should say that the 250 is the XFX R7 250 2Gb.
The one they had originally listed in the system was the AMD 7750 2Gb
probably the XFX or MSI brand but not the OC version.
I'm not usually a terribly nit picky buyer and if it's not a huge difference then I'd actually prefer to not bring on the hassle.
I will be ringing them all the same to let them know how I feel.
It's up to them then to do the right thing for me as the customer.
So yeah, I guess before I ring them I just want to be sure of the differences :-)
a c 500 U Graphics card
December 10, 2013 2:15:43 AM

Depending on the PSU they give you I'd just say screw that, get a better card and add it in (may need a PSU upgrade though)
December 10, 2013 2:47:11 AM

I guess I could argue the point it's not an upgrade.
They are still listing them with the 7750 Card in the main headline
with the 'upgrade' mentioned further down in the Item Description.



Here's the basic spec:
CPU : AMD FX 6300 Six Core CPU (turbo 4.1Ghz)
Motherboard : Gigabyte 78LMT-USB3
Hard Drive : 120gb Solid State Drive
Memory : 8gb DDR3 1600mhz Corsair Vengeance Memory
Graphics Card : Upgraded to Latest Radeon R7 250 2gb ddr3 (Outputs VGA / DVI / HDMI)
Power Supply : 500 Watt With Power Cable Supplied

Optical Drive : 24x Dual Layer DVD Writer
Software : Windows 7 Home 64 bit
Case : Zalman Mini T3 Black
Warranty : 12 Months Return To Base (Parts & Labour)

The listing on eBay:
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/AMD-GB-6300-3-5Ghz-Gaming-Pc-Win...

So yeah man, any advice is much appreciated!
I'm covered by the international on line buyers rights anyway and can always return the
full system for a refund but it'd just seem to me like the right thing for them to do is accept
the card back and swap it for an actual upgrade like the advertised.
a c 500 U Graphics card
December 10, 2013 2:52:46 AM

Ugh, depending on games the 7750 won't cut it for upcoming games above low- maybe medium settings

You could go with your very own build

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (£82.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G43 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£50.36 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: GeIL Value Plus 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£48.70 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£55.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.97 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card (£119.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Silverstone SST-RL01B-USB 3.0 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£33.61 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£47.18 @ CCL Computers)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive (£10.78 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £489.57
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-10 10:59 GMT+0000)
December 10, 2013 12:29:39 PM

Jeez thanks!
Y'know, if I had come on here to begin with I'd have just built my own.
The ONLY reason I picked it from them was because it was pretty much the build I wanted
and I have ZERO free time so was willing to pay for them to put it together.
I also paid for them to install an extra 1TB HD (cost 50 pounds more)
again I could have got cheaper but went with them so as to have all the items
coming from the one place to simplify the warranty if anything went wrong.

I've decided to just put it all down in an email and send it to their customer service dept.
Under EU distance purchase laws any item can be returned after 14 days from delivery for a full refund.
It's not what I want to do but I'm giving them the chance to at least give me a decent answer to my question.
I'm not looking for free stuff or anything more than I was promised.
Ball's in their court.
December 11, 2013 9:11:12 AM

So,
the system came today with the MSI R7 250 2GB DDR3 OC card:

http://us.msi.com/product/vga/R7-250-2GD3-OC.html#/?div...

I'm glad that they took on board my concerns when I first contacted them and installed the OC version and to be honest, taking everything into account, I'm gonna keep it and be done with it all.
Biggest issue overall was poor communication and if they had informed me day one that it was this version which was installed instead of the XFX version which is what they said was in it, I'd have left it at that.

maybe they wanted it to be a surprise.

Anyways,
Thanks everyone for all your advice and input and have an awesome Christmas or whatever you celebrate! :) 
December 13, 2013 5:14:17 PM

Sigh.
So after only a few hours playing the card has decided it's done and now there's
lines appearing on the screen and it's blue-screening the system.
Drivers are up to date, same on 2 different size monitors.
Checked everything possible but no fix.
Back the lot go's tomorrow.
No PC for my Holidays over Xmas. :-(
a b U Graphics card
December 18, 2013 7:00:39 AM

Barberskum said:
Sigh.
So after only a few hours playing the card has decided it's done and now there's
lines appearing on the screen and it's blue-screening the system.
Drivers are up to date, same on 2 different size monitors.
Checked everything possible but no fix.
Back the lot go's tomorrow.
No PC for my Holidays over Xmas. :-(


You have 12 month hardware support from them still at least. If that happened to me I would try and squeeze a R7 260x out of them for all of the crap they put me through
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...
a c 500 U Graphics card
December 18, 2013 2:56:35 PM

^That's a solid idea :lol:  the 260x is a few times more powerful than the weak 250
March 25, 2014 9:47:41 PM

I know this is an old thread but if any one can help me the cheapest R7 250 i can find on newegg is $85.00 and the cheapest 7750 is $100 I know $15 isn't a lot but I'm on a budget is the performance gonna be noticeable or no? I am gonna be pairing it with a Quadcore AMD 760k and 8gb (2x4gb) ddr3 1600mhz ram
June 2, 2014 5:54:53 AM

rolandzhang3 said:
The 7750 is better, the 250 is just a rebadged 8670 which is much weaker than the 7750


its not weaker just 3~5 fps less than hd 7750....other than that every thing is fine.......
a c 500 U Graphics card
July 12, 2014 6:57:06 AM

tom19j said:
rolandzhang3 said:
The 7750 is better, the 250 is just a rebadged 8670 which is much weaker than the 7750


its not weaker just 3~5 fps less than hd 7750....other than that every thing is fine.......


Yep, I saw the recent reviews between the GDDR5 versions and they trade blows with each other, the review I got one of the graphs from was on an older German review of the 250 which showed it to be much weaker and it wasn't on Anandtech's bench site either (Nov 2013)

Derp

At this current time neither would really make a good recommendation for gaming given the release of the 750 and 750 Ti and their amazing performance to power consumption ratio

Thanks for clearing that up though
!