Typhoon Yolanda in the Philippines

[musical marv]

We should thinking about those less unfortunate than us as what just happened in the Philippines.Thousands of lives are lost forever on account of this horrific storm Yolanda which pummeled that country recently.Let us remember the victims and families lost in this devastation of this storm.

 

[Reynod]

marv you ok over there?

Jeez what a storm ... 147 mph winds avareage peaking at 195 mph (315kph).

So many people living along the coast too ... copped the huge storm surge.

http://www.rappler.com/science-nature/43457-storm-chaser-philippines-typhoon-off-scale


Good news here is the aussie govt is going to send $10M in relief instead of the $400k they had planned ... so I think that is a good start.

Relief agencies are now in full swing so providing the Philippino military help out it should get better quickly.

The US ships in the region are moving in to help fly people in and out.

Have not heard if the Chinese plan to help ... or Indonesia / Vietnam.

Viber is letting locals call their families overseas for free ... which is great.

I have some friends who are worried here about family there..

 

[riser]

Crazy storm, last I read was up to 10,000 dead. Not much you can do to prepare against something like that.

 

[Reynod]

I wonder if it was bigger than Katrina?

The US has geared up a huge aid effort ... just reading about that now.

 

[Reynod]

US has pledged $20M in aid plus the ships and troops ... thats pretty awesome.

 

[musical marv]

marv you ok over there?

Jeez what a storm ... 147 mph winds avareage peaking at 195 mph (315kph).

So many people living along the coast too ... copped the huge storm surge.

http://www.rappler.com/science-nature/43457-storm-chaser-philippines-typhoon-off-scale


Good news here is the aussie govt is going to send $10M in relief instead of the $400k they had planned ... so I think that is a good start.

Relief agencies are now in full swing so providing the Philippino military help out it should get better quickly.

The US ships in the region are moving in to help fly people in and out.

Have not heard if the Chinese plan to help ... or Indonesia / Vietnam.

Viber is letting locals call their families overseas for free ... which is great.

I have some friends who are worried here about family there..

I live in Cebu and thankfully we were not in the direct path of this storm. No one was hurt here where I live and no significant damage happened either.Thank GOD for the Australian Government and other countries providing goods and financial help to the other victims who need it the most here.

 

[musical marv]

I wonder if it was bigger than Katrina?

The US has geared up a huge aid effort ... just reading about that now.

It was bigger than Katrina they say and much more wider also.

 

[musical marv]

I heard 10,000 possible dead in just one town on the coast. I can't recall the name.

The name is Tacloban which is the capital of Leyte.

 

[riser]

They're saying it was the largest storm ever recorded.

Hey America, good thing we didn't cut the military because it does have uses outside of war. Marines generally are the first to go in since they're quick response.

I was reading an article today about how they're just lining up the bodies in the road. Most drown apparently?

 

[musical marv]

They're saying it was the largest storm ever recorded.

Hey America, good thing we didn't cut the military because it does have uses outside of war. Marines generally are the first to go in since they're quick response.

I was reading an article today about how they're just lining up the bodies in the road. Most drown apparently?

That is correct most of the dead did drown by this typhoon.The military should never be cut period.

 

[Reynod]

Though I note that the Chinese news sites are reporting on the damage in the Philippines there is no mention of ANY aid coming FROM China.

Why would the nearest neighbours with the best logistics support NOT offer to help out with the relief efforts.

This is another damning indictment on the Chinese ... care factor zero from them.

 

[Reynod]

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/aid-trickling-hard-hit-areas-philippines-20865671

The US are installing equipment (courtesy of their military) to enable planes to land at night on one of the cleared runways ... to increase relief efforts.

Norwegians (yeah that quiet little place on the map where the Vikings came from) and the British have sent ships.

Nothing from China.

Indonesia ??

Vietnam I can understand because they got hammered by the same storm.

 

[riser]

Or likely it is China's policy to stay out of the business of other countries period and expect nothing in return in any form.

 

[Reynod]

I am sure up until only recently both the US, UK, Canada and Australia were all still giving aid to china.

I frickin hope that still isn't going on now.

They have a heap of ships within 100 nm of the Philippines ... no reason why they couldn't pop over and help.

You know, there's politics ... and there is simply human decency ... not hard to sort out which is whcih.

Remember two years ago when that US warship rescued the sinking Iranian fishing boat and took them back to Iran?

 

[riser]

China has given $200,000.

Given that in a country where a vast majority of people live in very bad conditions, I can understand the viewpoint of not providing aid when they're really in better shape. They potentially risk another population riot if they're handing out money to other countries while their own suffer.

Given that in the other countries that provided money and relief, our "poor" live better than most in the world anyhow.

 

[musical marv]

I am sure up until only recently both the US, UK, Canada and Australia were all still giving aid to china.

I frickin hope that still isn't going on now.

They have a heap of ships within 100 nm of the Philippines ... no reason why they couldn't pop over and help.

You know, there's politics ... and there is simply human decency ... not hard to sort out which is whcih.

Remember two years ago when that US warship rescued the sinking Iranian fishing boat and took them back to Iran?

I hear you. Unfortunately, not all humans are decent and the worse among us seem to be in positions of power.

Power is everything I know this and also money is power also.Unfortunately this is true.

 

[Reynod]

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2013-11-14/china-increases-typhoon-aid-to-1-dot-64-million-global-times-says

Nice recovery China.

Now some ships and some rice, water drums, portaloos, and why.

 

[riser]

Ah well that links explains why China went in on the cheap end.

 

[Reynod]

http://www.tourism.gov.ph/Pages/02072014THEPHILIPPINESSAYSTHANKYOUTOTHEWORLD.aspx

 

[musical marv]

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2013-11-14/china-increases-typhoon-aid-to-1-dot-64-million-global-times-says

Nice recovery China.

Now some ships and some rice, water drums, portaloos, and why.

Let me tell you the truth there were billions of dollars sent here and they cannot seem to locate a lot of the money. 32 countries were involved in this effort.Nothing has been done regarding rebuilding there in Tacloban at all. This sickens me immensely! Aquino stinks as the president here in my opinion.No leadership qualities at all.Corruption everywhere.Don't blame China blame this country and their corrupt politicians here.

 

[Reynod]

I was thinking of buying a holiday home there .. two of my mates have.

But their story about recently seeing that MP and his wife killed at the airport by the guys on the motorbike kinda put me off.

 

[musical marv]

I was thinking of buying a holiday home there .. two of my mates have.

But their story about recently seeing that MP and his wife killed at the airport by the guys on the motorbike kinda put me off.

It depends where you live. Stay away from Mindanao and go to Cebu where it is mote peaceful and a lot of foreigners live there.

 

[musical marv]

I was thinking of buying a holiday home there .. two of my mates have.

But their story about recently seeing that MP and his wife killed at the airport by the guys on the motorbike kinda put me off.

Did you decide yet about the Philippines?

 

[Reynod]

Yes I decided no Marv ... tho I might have a new gig soon working out of the fab yards in Malaysia on an FPSO.

 

[musical marv]

Yes I decided no Marv ... tho I might have a new gig soon working out of the fab yards in Malaysia on an FPSO.

Good luck in your life what ever you might partake in.Malaysia is a beautiful country.