Women Leaders in the Tech Industry
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Beachnative
November 19, 2013 6:00:48 AM
ZionZA
November 19, 2013 6:04:47 AM
ZionZA
November 19, 2013 6:06:02 AM
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ZionZA
November 19, 2013 6:06:14 AM
ZionZA
November 19, 2013 6:07:38 AM
P1nnacle
November 19, 2013 6:07:44 AM
ZionZA
November 19, 2013 6:08:22 AM
Beachnative said:
I got into a discussion with a friend over women in technology and management. Her position was women are never given the ability to run anything other than a vacuum cleaner saying they need their fair shot in the work place and in management. What say you?I've recently worked at multiple different companies where the IT directory or CFO were females.
Your friend needs to get their head out of their butt and look around. You should ask your friend's thoughts about why there are no female NFL coaches.
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Beachnative
November 19, 2013 9:08:08 AM
riser said:
Beachnative said:
I got into a discussion with a friend over women in technology and management. Her position was women are never given the ability to run anything other than a vacuum cleaner saying they need their fair shot in the work place and in management. What say you?I've recently worked at multiple different companies where the IT directory or CFO were females.
Your friend needs to get their head out of their butt and look around. You should ask your friend's thoughts about why there are no female NFL coaches.
Priceless!!! She is a journalism major and I said "the tech industry has many women running large companies. Ever heard of Yahoo, HP, VMware? "
Her response was "uhhh I'm a journalist.."
I interupted and said "maybe you should look at your own industry first."
You could have heard a pin drop....no answer and she left
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Beachnative
November 19, 2013 9:10:12 AM
ZionZA
November 19, 2013 2:52:11 PM
musical marv
November 19, 2013 4:51:14 PM
Beachnative said:
I got into a discussion with a friend over women in technology and management. Her position was women are never given the ability to run anything other than a vacuum cleaner saying they need their fair shot in the work place and in management. What say you?
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Oldmangamer_73 said:
I was fired by a female so your friend needs to get a clue.You would have been fired by any manager irrespective of gender, race or creed ... you put your unwanted guns up for sale on the company intranet ... Seriously ... did you think they wouldn't mind?
I am so glad your not my next door neighbour ... you would have shot me by mistake 20 times over by now.
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ZionZA
November 20, 2013 5:29:35 AM
Reynod said:
Oldmangamer_73 said:
I was fired by a female so your friend needs to get a clue.You would have been fired by any manager irrespective of gender, race or creed ... you put your unwanted guns up for sale on the company intranet ... Seriously ... did you think they wouldn't mind?
I am so glad your not my next door neighbour ... you would have shot me by mistake 20 times over by now.
I take it you know this person?
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4Ryan6
November 21, 2013 4:38:08 AM
Beachnative said:
I got into a discussion with a friend over women in technology and management. Her position was women are never given the ability to run anything other than a vacuum cleaner saying they need their fair shot in the work place and in management. What say you?Absolutely!
There are many technological areas women surpass men and they should definitely have the fair shot in the work place!
The cave man mentality should be long gone and it's amazing to see it still exists in some minds, there are dedicated areas women shine and areas men shine, and each should be recognized for their capabilities and skills on an equal basis.
Personally I find it hard to believe we are not way past this question even being asked!
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ZionZA
November 21, 2013 4:54:56 AM
Women should thank Hitler. If it wasn't for world war 2 women wouldn't know this independence they do today. During the 2nd World War women were needed to work in the industrial and commercial sectors due to most of the Man power, excuse the pun, off fighting the nazi's (uuh war) and what not. This is where people started to see that women could have their own careers and do jobs men do in a similar fashion. So thank you hitler
Anyway. I don't understand how women still complain about these things. You get international women's day and national women's day in my country. Yet nothing for men except maybe cleavage day. You get insurance companies that specifically target women at reduced rates etc etc. What exactly do people need to do? When it comes to the IT industry you don't see a lot of women going to College and University to study Computer science, programming etc. You hardly see a female technician etc. So the general idea is that its mostly a man's industry due to the lack of interest from women. Because of this lack of interest etc its rare to see women in this field. Its actually weird at times to see women in this field due to the lack of women. Yet now some of them want to complain about it and blame men? It's not the man's fault if women don't show the interest required for men to see them as equals in the field. It's hard to see anything as equal if you hardly fracking see it. When I did my Software engineering course at University there was about 10 women doing the course. Yet 140 people in total. Now these numbers keep growing but will take a few generations to get accustomed to the idea that its a career women excel in as well. And there are cases of women being in high ranked jobs in the industry.
So to summarize. Your friend is talking out her backside
Anyway. I don't understand how women still complain about these things. You get international women's day and national women's day in my country. Yet nothing for men except maybe cleavage day. You get insurance companies that specifically target women at reduced rates etc etc. What exactly do people need to do? When it comes to the IT industry you don't see a lot of women going to College and University to study Computer science, programming etc. You hardly see a female technician etc. So the general idea is that its mostly a man's industry due to the lack of interest from women. Because of this lack of interest etc its rare to see women in this field. Its actually weird at times to see women in this field due to the lack of women. Yet now some of them want to complain about it and blame men? It's not the man's fault if women don't show the interest required for men to see them as equals in the field. It's hard to see anything as equal if you hardly fracking see it. When I did my Software engineering course at University there was about 10 women doing the course. Yet 140 people in total. Now these numbers keep growing but will take a few generations to get accustomed to the idea that its a career women excel in as well. And there are cases of women being in high ranked jobs in the industry.
So to summarize. Your friend is talking out her backside
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chunkymonster
November 22, 2013 6:15:15 AM
Beachnative said:
I got into a discussion with a friend over women in technology and management. Her position was women are never given the ability to run anything other than a vacuum cleaner saying they need their fair shot in the work place and in management. What say you?I bet dollars to donuts she would label herself a feminist.
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ZionZA
November 22, 2013 8:52:41 AM
ok.
Lets leave Hitler out of it though.
http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Technology_industry
Here are some stats on our fair geeks.
Interestingly at the last place where I worked the 4 women we had in IT all proved to be disasters:
Lets leave Hitler out of it though.
http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Technology_industry
Here are some stats on our fair geeks.
Interestingly at the last place where I worked the 4 women we had in IT all proved to be disasters:
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Beachnative
November 25, 2013 2:10:36 PM
chunkymonster said:
Beachnative said:
I got into a discussion with a friend over women in technology and management. Her position was women are never given the ability to run anything other than a vacuum cleaner saying they need their fair shot in the work place and in management. What say you?I bet dollars to donuts she would label herself a feminist.
Bingo!!!!
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musical marv
November 27, 2013 5:05:26 PM
ZionZA said:
Women should thank Hitler. If it wasn't for world war 2 women wouldn't know this independence they do today. During the 2nd World War women were needed to work in the industrial and commercial sectors due to most of the Man power, excuse the pun, off fighting the nazi's (uuh war) and what not. This is where people started to see that women could have their own careers and do jobs men do in a similar fashion. So thank you hitler
Anyway. I don't understand how women still complain about these things. You get international women's day and national women's day in my country. Yet nothing for men except maybe cleavage day. You get insurance companies that specifically target women at reduced rates etc etc. What exactly do people need to do? When it comes to the IT industry you don't see a lot of women going to College and University to study Computer science, programming etc. You hardly see a female technician etc. So the general idea is that its mostly a man's industry due to the lack of interest from women. Because of this lack of interest etc its rare to see women in this field. Its actually weird at times to see women in this field due to the lack of women. Yet now some of them want to complain about it and blame men? It's not the man's fault if women don't show the interest required for men to see them as equals in the field. It's hard to see anything as equal if you hardly fracking see it. When I did my Software engineering course at University there was about 10 women doing the course. Yet 140 people in total. Now these numbers keep growing but will take a few generations to get accustomed to the idea that its a career women excel in as well. And there are cases of women being in high ranked jobs in the industry.
So to summarize. Your friend is talking out her backside
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ZionZA
November 27, 2013 9:51:41 PM
musical marv said:
ZionZA said:
Women should thank Hitler. If it wasn't for world war 2 women wouldn't know this independence they do today. During the 2nd World War women were needed to work in the industrial and commercial sectors due to most of the Man power, excuse the pun, off fighting the nazi's (uuh war) and what not. This is where people started to see that women could have their own careers and do jobs men do in a similar fashion. So thank you hitler
Anyway. I don't understand how women still complain about these things. You get international women's day and national women's day in my country. Yet nothing for men except maybe cleavage day. You get insurance companies that specifically target women at reduced rates etc etc. What exactly do people need to do? When it comes to the IT industry you don't see a lot of women going to College and University to study Computer science, programming etc. You hardly see a female technician etc. So the general idea is that its mostly a man's industry due to the lack of interest from women. Because of this lack of interest etc its rare to see women in this field. Its actually weird at times to see women in this field due to the lack of women. Yet now some of them want to complain about it and blame men? It's not the man's fault if women don't show the interest required for men to see them as equals in the field. It's hard to see anything as equal if you hardly fracking see it. When I did my Software engineering course at University there was about 10 women doing the course. Yet 140 people in total. Now these numbers keep growing but will take a few generations to get accustomed to the idea that its a career women excel in as well. And there are cases of women being in high ranked jobs in the industry.
So to summarize. Your friend is talking out her backside
Go read up on the meaning of satire. I find it amazing that people, like you, can not see the humour in what I said and also have to be so damn sensitive about it.
The fact that I mention Hitler, is a joke/exaggeration etc. However the 2nd world war did give rise to female independence and this is a fact. Like it or not I can't change history so don't be mad at me. By that I mean the second world war and not female independence. I also never said that I had an issue with women or their independence yet somehow you conclude that I have psychological problems just because what I'm saying doesn't support them. Wow, really, that's some seriously irrational insight and maybe you should consider taking that stick out of your backside and actually going and reading up on a little bit of history. But hey. The internet is full of judgemental people hiding behind keyboards who see things that just aren't there.
Take your oversensitive dim views somewhere else please
PS.If you don't understand what I was trying to say then let me summarize it. In the IT industry women are in the minority. The reason for this TODAY is not because of men but because most women show so little interest in the field. This is not a negative statement but if you take it that way then you seem to be the one with some psychological issues etc.
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The problem with satire is it doesn't always translate - even among differing versions of the same language. Betcha if I say "women can't get through the glass ceiling but they could at least polish it while they're up there" I'll be universally panned and granted a Fatwa by Germaine Greer.
Reality is, I've employed women in many capacities in businesses passim and was rewarded with reliable and good work. I recommended one to take over from me when I left my last and only real job working for someone else. She was passed over but got it nine months later when the complete idiot who did take over from me lost it.
Reality is, I've employed women in many capacities in businesses passim and was rewarded with reliable and good work. I recommended one to take over from me when I left my last and only real job working for someone else. She was passed over but got it nine months later when the complete idiot who did take over from me lost it.
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So if your wife reads this thread your in the clear now eh?
I work with technical people (real technical people) mainly engineers and scientists.
Our two current projects are the largest in the world at present - a huge amount of offshore and onshore work, with fabrication in 12 countries.
We have a lot of female science people in enviro / H&S and a few in engineering (mechanical and process) but most of the other engineers are men.
Most of the construction engineers (civil etc) are men.
I'd say about 65 / 35 in the technical area ... a very rough guess.
The best risk engineer we have is a Chinese / Australian woman ... one of our best interface engineers is a Russian woman. I work with a Kazak engineer as well and his wife makes the meanest cookies.
Frankly if you can do the job I'll work with you ... if you can't then move on.
We do have about 50/50 in IM&T (IT) but I only know our info risk guy well and the helpdesk guys because I have moved pod a couple of times.
I leave them chocolate ... they keep my workstation humming.
I work with technical people (real technical people) mainly engineers and scientists.
Our two current projects are the largest in the world at present - a huge amount of offshore and onshore work, with fabrication in 12 countries.
We have a lot of female science people in enviro / H&S and a few in engineering (mechanical and process) but most of the other engineers are men.
Most of the construction engineers (civil etc) are men.
I'd say about 65 / 35 in the technical area ... a very rough guess.
The best risk engineer we have is a Chinese / Australian woman ... one of our best interface engineers is a Russian woman. I work with a Kazak engineer as well and his wife makes the meanest cookies.
Frankly if you can do the job I'll work with you ... if you can't then move on.
We do have about 50/50 in IM&T (IT) but I only know our info risk guy well and the helpdesk guys because I have moved pod a couple of times.
I leave them chocolate ... they keep my workstation humming.
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