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November 21, 2013 7:21:04 AM

I currently have a gtx 760 sc edition video card in my system. I am currently building a new system, and was wondering to keep, buy, sli or wait for the new cards to be released. I would say I have around a 250-400 budget (mb more if need be). I would like to stay with nvidia type cards. Inputs on what to do. I do game a lot and heavy games as well with some encoding.

New Build Specs:
i7 4770k
Asus Max Hero
16G DDR3 Ripjaws 2400
Corsair 750x PSU (80 Gold)

Currently just have a 22' screen, samsung, 1ms response, 60 hz. Possibly looking to upgrade to a 24-25in. Also, any suggestion on what monitor as well? I know want a higher refresh rate, fast response time and so forth. Brand maybe, I see a lot of Asus, there monitors pretty good? I always liked samsung, but seems you can get a little better deal with Asus monitors

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November 21, 2013 7:40:20 AM

Get a second 760 and SLI them would be the best option i think. Even that might be overkill for 1080p, I would start looking at 1440p monitors.
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November 21, 2013 7:43:10 AM

A single 760 shouldn't have any problems at 1080 for a while. Yes, a SLI setup would be quite nice, but I would consider it mostly a waste until you actually need the power. If you're not experiencing any gaming problems now, I don't think you need to spring for another.

A 750W PSU is also overkill. Even SLI setups don't need more than 600W unless you're using the highest end cards ( Titans and 780s. )
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November 21, 2013 7:47:37 AM

As of now I can't feel any lag or major dips in fps to hurt my game play for cod, cs, assassins creeds, l4d2, bf 2 and 3, crysis and so forth. Everthing seems fine to me and I can only expect to get better results when I upgrade to my new system.

Currently:
i 870 2.93ghz (oc'd 3.98ghz)
gigabyte p55-ud3
ddr3 8 gigs crucial 1333 (7-6-6)
gtx 760 sc edition

I do have the blackhawk ultra gaming super tower, so space and heat should not play a factor hopefully.
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November 21, 2013 8:13:59 AM

Yeah, you won't see a whole lot of difference going from the 870 to 4770 because the 870 is still a great chip. What you will see is lower power consumption and a better featured mboard. Unless you're going to 1440p or a multi-display setup, I can't think the 760 will limit you in any noticeable way for the next little while. By the time it's insufficient, you'll have a whole new gen of cards to select from to upgrade.
November 21, 2013 8:26:27 AM

RedJaron said:
Yeah, you won't see a whole lot of difference going from the 870 to 4770 because the 870 is still a great chip. What you will see is lower power consumption and a better featured mboard. Unless you're going to 1440p or a multi-display setup, I can't think the 760 will limit you in any noticeable way for the next little while. By the time it's insufficient, you'll have a whole new gen of cards to select from to upgrade.


So is it worth upgrading to the new chip (4770k) or wait or what?
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November 21, 2013 8:30:44 AM

I think it's worth upgrading to get the newer platform. You will get a good IPC improvement, more instruction set support, and lower power consumption. I don't think you'll see "Oh my wow!" speed improvement, but it should be a bit snappier. If you really want to see system response time improvement, grab an SSD.
November 21, 2013 8:35:49 AM

RedJaron said:
I think it's worth upgrading to get the newer platform. You will get a good IPC improvement, more instruction set support, and lower power consumption. I don't think you'll see "Oh my wow!" speed improvement, but it should be a bit snappier. If you really want to see system response time improvement, grab an SSD.


Def grabbing a SSD, looking at 1 Samsung pro 840 128 and 1 256 (same model) seeing great reviews of those sdds. Plus ram upgrade will help to I believe from 1333 to 1866 ripjaw series. Plus newer mb tech and also have pci 3 instead of 1 or 2 (can't remember what mb supports)
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November 21, 2013 8:41:50 AM

I'd recommend a 256GB SSD. I have a 128, which is good, but I would like a little extra space for a few more game installs. And you don't need the absolute fastest drive. You can save some good cash by getting a middle-level SSD. Benchmarks are the only place you'll see speed loss. Actual user experience is the same between an M4 and 840 Pro.

As for RAM, 1600 has some nice benefits over 1333, but 1866 shows marginal gains for the extra money. I'd stay at 1600 unless you have an APU or something that can take advantage of the faster RAM.
November 21, 2013 8:45:44 AM

RedJaron said:
I'd recommend a 256GB SSD. I have a 128, which is good, but I would like a little extra space for a few more game installs. And you don't need the absolute fastest drive. You can save some good cash by getting a middle-level SSD. Benchmarks are the only place you'll see speed loss. Actual user experience is the same between an M4 and 840 Pro.

As for RAM, 1600 has some nice benefits over 1333, but 1866 shows marginal gains for the extra money. I'd stay at 1600 unless you have an APU or something that can take advantage of the faster RAM.


I am getting 2, the 128 will be for my primary c drive and the 256 will be gaming and whatever else I need on there. I have like 80 games but won't install all of them. So your saying the EVO model they offer is good? I also been looking at the kingston 3k hyperx model ($90) 128g. Just read that the samsung ssd are pretty solid and reliable.
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November 21, 2013 9:22:21 AM

Yes, I like Samsung SSDs too. But you can get the Evo or regular 840 for less than the Pro and not miss out on anything.

I don't fully understand the idea of two SSDs in a rig. If you're going with three drives, I'd get a 256 SSD, a 1TB 7200 rpm application drive, and a 2TB+ 5400 rpm data drive.
November 21, 2013 9:41:38 AM

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Yes, I like Samsung SSDs too. But you can get the Evo or regular 840 for less than the Pro and not miss out on anything.

I don't fully understand the idea of two SSDs in a rig. If you're going with three drives, I'd get a 256 SSD, a 1TB 7200 rpm application drive, and a 2TB+ 5400 rpm data drive.


Well i was thinking the I want one for my C system, but I also like keeping it pretty bare in a way, not loading it down with everything. The 256 was for gaming and certain application. And I have a 2tb segate barracuda 64MB 7200RMP drive as well. Figured might as well put 2 ssd in there for overall performace for 90% of my things and use the 2TB as storage.
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November 21, 2013 11:45:30 AM

Just a few penniesworth.
The i7 870 is still a fast piece of kit (especially when overclocked ;)  ) and has Hyperthreading, so I don't think the extra performance you'll get by swapping to a new CPU/MB is going to be worth the outlay, you'll gain a few FPS at most in games and save only seconds on your encoding/rendering times.
If you are going to go for a faster/higher rez monitor, I think you'll be better off dropping a GTX780/GTX780Ti/R9 290x into the current system, or adding a second GTX760 for SLI.
Like the idea of dual SSDs.
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November 21, 2013 12:25:27 PM

As I said, going to LGA 1150 won't give you a big up in game performance. The reason to upgrade is to get a better platform ( newer, faster USB 3.0 controller, PCIe 3.0, faster RAM support, new instruction sets, etc. ) And looking up your mboard, its PCIe slots aren't very SLI friendly. The second slot only runs at x4 speed and the primary slot drops down to x8 speed when the USB 3.0 or SATA3 kicks into "turbo mode." Again, these are all PCIe 2.0 lanes, so that's not the greatest for an SLI setup.
November 21, 2013 12:48:17 PM

RedJaron said:
As I said, going to LGA 1150 won't give you a big up in game performance. The reason to upgrade is to get a better platform ( newer, faster USB 3.0 controller, PCIe 3.0, faster RAM support, new instruction sets, etc. ) And looking up your mboard, its PCIe slots aren't very SLI friendly. The second slot only runs at x4 speed and the primary slot drops down to x8 speed when the USB 3.0 or SATA3 kicks into "turbo mode." Again, these are all PCIe 2.0 lanes, so that's not the greatest for an SLI setup.


Are you referring back to the hero? Dropping down into slower speeds when boost kicks in for USB?
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November 21, 2013 12:58:27 PM

You listed your current mboard as the GA-P55A-UD3. According to their own site, "When SATA3 / USB 3.0 (Marvell 9128 /NEC USB 3.0 Controllers) work at turbo mode, 1st PCIE x16 will work at x8 speed." Now I don't know what determines the turbo mode, but it seems likely that an SLI setup on that board could easily drop down to PCIe 2.0 x8/x4 which would start limiting current gen cards.
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