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Lenovo Erazer X700 Gaming PC Review: Is It As Fast As It Looks?

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November 26, 2013 9:24:18 PM

I won the $2550 computer featured in the Q3 SBM Marathon. I believe their scores using that system were 'slightly' hampered by fact that one of the 760s that was going bad. After RMA'ing the card, and using the same overclocks as featured in the SBM article, as well as moving the system to a high airflow case (Corsair Carbide Air 540) the 3DMark score is 19,100 (http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/7455484). Thanks Tom's!
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November 26, 2013 9:36:44 PM

wtf resolutions are you testing? How about 1440p? Hardly ANYONE uses dual/triple monitor setups because the framerate sucks so entirely and 99% of the people on the planet don't have $5k to throw at a gaming PC. you are wasting your time. give us SINGLE monitor configs, for the love of god.
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November 26, 2013 9:39:18 PM

Why do these companies insist on using tacky cases?
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November 26, 2013 9:40:23 PM

....and wth is an HD 8950?!?!?!
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a c 287 4 Gaming
November 26, 2013 10:05:54 PM

That case looks like it's going to transform into something.
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a b 4 Gaming
November 26, 2013 10:32:15 PM

chumly said:
....and wth is an HD 8950?!?!?!


HD 8XXX cards are rebranded 7XXX cards for OEMS to use for marketing, cause you know, uninformed Consumers love to think that larger number means better and that new products(despite not really being new) convinces them to buy it. an 8950 should be a rebranded 7950
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November 26, 2013 10:34:37 PM

What is this 8950?? Is it a R9 280x or something else???
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November 26, 2013 10:38:17 PM

Nice review... I don't like how the wires are setup though... kinda ugly... ;) 
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November 26, 2013 10:45:01 PM

the case is looking cool but,why they set the power at top?the power can't be hot it should set under the case and video card is not good
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November 26, 2013 10:47:00 PM

They could've put a R9 280x in it, but this isn't meant for the guys on this site. This is meant for sucke...... cough..... the average consumer.
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November 26, 2013 10:59:19 PM

Radeon 8950? Sir, it doesn't exist.
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November 26, 2013 11:57:03 PM

How come the 3DMark score of the O/Ced Lenovo is lower the than the stock one? It seems to be loosing a lot in Physics score. Are you sure the CPU is not throttling?
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November 27, 2013 1:17:57 AM

These OEMs make so-call "gaming PC" really need to know gaudy and oversized front bezel that take unnecessary space are the things of past. Without looking at some nice looking DIY computer cases out there, just take a look at design of next gen consoles. Those systems are used mainly for gaming yet they don't design their cases this way, why do these OEMs always think they have to design their "gaming PC" like this? What is more important are good cooling while keep noise own, preferably positive air pressure, practical features like easily removable dust filters for all intake fans, vibration cancelling fixture for HDD, and clean cable routing. The cables in this thing is a mess. I would say one thing good for the X700, the extra cooling for PWM is a nice touch.
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November 27, 2013 1:46:09 AM

The gpu could have been much better.
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November 27, 2013 2:03:45 AM

chumly said:
wtf resolutions are you testing? How about 1440p? Hardly ANYONE uses dual/triple monitor setups because the framerate sucks so entirely and 99% of the people on the planet don't have $5k to throw at a gaming PC. you are wasting your time. give us SINGLE monitor configs, for the love of god.
You got it. 1920x1080. I don't know anyone outside the company that owns a 1440p monitor.
chumly said:
....and wth is an HD 8950?!?!?!
Read much? It's in the article.
dudewitbow said:
HD 8XXX cards are rebranded 7XXX cards for OEMS to use for marketing, cause you know, uninformed Consumers love to think that larger number means better and that new products(despite not really being new) convinces them to buy it. an 8950 should be a rebranded 7950
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bryonhowley said:
lostgamer_03 said:
Radeon 8950? Sir, it doesn't exist.


http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/8000/Pa...

Excellent! I see you guys have the thread well covered, thanks again!
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November 27, 2013 2:42:33 AM

So we have a 8950 (7950 renamed) and it's between the R9 270x and the R9 280x....hmmmm what a bunch of crap if you ask me. It should be called the R9 275x instead to fall within the "New" naming scheme (which is crap too, BTW).
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November 27, 2013 3:12:39 AM

"4 x Hyundai HMT451U6AFR8C DDR3-1600 C11, 16 GB (4 x 4 GB)"

WHAT.THE.[removed]? It's Hynix dude!

Watch the language. - G
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November 27, 2013 3:55:54 AM

Metalrenok said:
"4 x Hyundai HMT451U6AFR8C DDR3-1600 C11, 16 GB (4 x 4 GB)"

WHAT.THE.FUCK? It's Hynix dude!
Same thing give or take a decade, right?

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November 27, 2013 4:01:58 AM

Crashman said:
Metalrenok said:
"4 x Hyundai HMT451U6AFR8C DDR3-1600 C11, 16 GB (4 x 4 GB)"

WHAT.THE.[removed]? It's Hynix dude!
Same thing give or take a decade, right?

Watch the language. - G


Yeah I know, but you say Hyundai and I start thinking in asian cars lol
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November 27, 2013 5:06:04 AM

Overall looks like a half-assed attempt to make something that looks enthusiast with previous gen technology, under-power it, and wrap it in a plastic Darth Vader looking front. "Engine Start"? Please...
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November 27, 2013 5:56:18 AM

chumly said:
wtf resolutions are you testing? How about 1440p? Hardly ANYONE uses dual/triple monitor setups because the framerate sucks so entirely and 99% of the people on the planet don't have $5k to throw at a gaming PC. you are wasting your time. give us SINGLE monitor configs, for the love of god.


I imagine they're out there, but the only 1440p monitors I've ever seen in person are iMacs, and that's kind of irrelevant when reviewing a gaming PC. Most people either do 1080p [which they included], something close [like my precious 24 inch 1200p Dell] so that the 1080p benchmarks are relevant, or use multiple monitors.

Also, when you're talking about a 2500 dollar computer it only makes sense to spend serious coin on peripherals as well, especially monitors [whether it be multiple monitors or a 4K monitor], so I can believe that multi-monitor benchmarks would be relevant in this situation.

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November 27, 2013 6:07:34 AM

Do yourself a favor, build your own!
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November 27, 2013 6:23:19 AM

Sorry Lenovo, you need to bring the price down. This system could have been built for a grand.
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November 27, 2013 6:28:01 AM

Where the heck did they source the Samsung 830? Did they have a bunch sitting around in a warehouse?
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November 27, 2013 7:28:17 AM

I really don't mind the look of the case. Everyone tries to make something "new" or "cool" and there will always be disagreement among the consumers. Those drive slots on the front, are they hot-swap? Is there a backplane?

However the instant I saw CAS 11 1600 RAM, my expectations hit the floor. CAS 9 1600 seems to be the enthusiast/gaming norm right now. If Lenovo isn't even using that, what other small details did they miss? It's like the Wi-Fi antenna card taking up the SLI/XFire slot. Someone didn't pay attention to the small details.

I'm not disappointed in the 830 since it's still a heckouva SSD, but why only 128GB in a machine like this? Also a 8/7950 is a great card, plenty of power for 1080p, but why not a top-end card like a 7970/290 or 770/680 or even 780?

And normally I don't mind mATX either, but even without the antenna problem, you still don't have space between multiple cards for cooling ( blower style or not, I wouldn't like to do that. )

But then there's the VRM cooler, showing someone on the design team WAS paying attention

Most everything in here is a generation old ( are close enough, ) and that's fine for a workhorse machine or even upper gaming, but it does not deserve the price premium Lenovo wants. Again, I go back to the RAM CAS and the VRM cooler. This machine just feels disjointed, like it doesn't know what it wants to be. Parts show brilliance, but most feels like a disappointment.
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November 27, 2013 7:38:32 AM

The mATX board ruined this whole thing for me, just like the Dell/Alienware Aurora. Why the heck would someone get a 3930k without being able to utilize all the PCIe lanes? Micro ATX boards are a huge mistake with such a processor. The stupidity level of Lenovo with this move alone is so confusing. I was astounded when Dell put out that trash that is the Aurora. If they're going to use a mATX board with this chip, they should at least offer a PCIe x8 SATA 6Gb RAID controller on the board.

I have a 3930k, and I am currently using all 40 PCIe lanes, plus one from the southbridge: 2X GTX680s, 10Gbe, RAID controller, and a Soundblaster Z. That's the way a chip like this should be used.
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November 27, 2013 7:48:42 AM

What do people expect from an pre-built, they have done well for what it is and in any case if you are a serious gamer would you not build yourself so you can pick the parts?
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November 27, 2013 7:49:55 AM

lunyone said:
So we have a 8950 (7950 renamed) and it's between the R9 270x and the R9 280x....hmmmm what a bunch of crap if you ask me. It should be called the R9 275x instead to fall within the "New" naming scheme (which is crap too, BTW).



8XXX went out before R9 series..

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November 27, 2013 8:06:12 AM

rolli59 said:
What do people expect from an pre-built, they have done well for what it is and in any case if you are a serious gamer would you not build yourself so you can pick the parts?


I think the issue here is that this computer doesn't seem to know what it wants to be. Some aspects play to a gamer's checklist, and some completely miss the point and angle themselves more for general high power computing. You look at the boutiques this will compete directly with, and even if it's more expensive it's at least properly focused in its hardware configuration.

I generally agree with you about building your own computer if you want solid, focused power for whatever you're going to be doing, but I also know people who'd rather just buy a system they know works. Most of them tend to be IT too, the rationale being they deal with fixing/rebuilding computers all day, they don't want to do it when they get home too. So there is a market for these kinds of boutique systems, and this just doesn't fit the bill.
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November 27, 2013 8:13:11 AM

If you look closely, you can see that the VRM MOSFETs on the mobo are D-PAKs. Not only are those not the best, but they are the absolute worst, if you spend more than $90 on a mobo you can do way better. That right there kills it, if you want to charge $2500 for something, don't use shit-tier components.
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November 27, 2013 8:20:53 AM

Gaming case from OEM = must make it look like Optimus Prime
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November 27, 2013 8:25:44 AM

Tacky molded plastic exterior and generic interior is typical big company design. It's to expensive for what you get. The author is right, to much emphasis on CPU and not enough on graphics but with a 650w PS, how much more graphics can you really add? Odds are it only has a single 16x PCIe or two 8x's on a generic OEM mobo. Another cheap big company feature.
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November 27, 2013 8:27:33 AM

Pop a GTX 780Ti in there, take out the crazy angles and lights on the case, and sell for the same price. Then we'll talk.
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November 27, 2013 8:34:38 AM

I spent right around $1200 on my PC and it absolutely crushes this PC. Of course I have 8 gigs of Ram and I don't have a SSD, but seeing as this PC is for gaming those benchmarks are a little underwhelming for a price tag that high. You mine as well buy a brand new gaming laptop and get similar performance/price. Desktops are supposed to be cheaper. That's the point. That CPU was definitely overkill when that money could have been used on a better GPU.
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November 27, 2013 8:47:23 AM

This thing was clearly designed by an accountant. $1000 previous gen processor on a junk MB that has next to no room for expansion? Why even make it an ATX case? Drop to a 4 core proc and this thing could fit in an ITX box.
I'll never understand the 'gaming case' aesthetic. It looks like it only appeals to 12 year olds or racerboys, neither of which are known to have 2,000+ to drop on an ambiguous use machine.
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November 27, 2013 9:20:37 AM

Thought it was called the Eraser. Maybe because im trying to erase that horrible case image from my mind.
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November 27, 2013 9:32:19 AM

therogerwilco said:
Sorry Lenovo, you need to bring the price down. This system could have been built for a grand.


Seriously. Well maybe not with a 3930K which doesn't benefit gaming, but with a 4670K, GTX 760, and a Samsung 840 Pro, you could get by for around the $1K mark. I'm sure the high price is because of the 3930K. I mean don't get me wrong, I love my Lenovo Y500, but would I buy a desktop with such a ridiculous markup and weak GPU? No freakin' way!!!
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November 27, 2013 10:10:07 AM

monsta said:
Why do these companies insist on using tacky cases?

But you can take the bezel off mount it to your car and use it as a snow plow in the winter :) 
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November 27, 2013 1:11:31 PM

I stopped reading when I saw an AMD graphics card in it and last years i7 model.
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November 27, 2013 2:41:44 PM

How about you guys take out that GPU and test it separately so we know what we're dealing with?
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November 27, 2013 4:12:54 PM

warezme said:
Tacky molded plastic exterior and generic interior is typical big company design. It's to expensive for what you get. The author is right, to much emphasis on CPU and not enough on graphics but with a 650w PS, how much more graphics can you really add? Odds are it only has a single 16x PCIe or two 8x's on a generic OEM mobo. Another cheap big company feature.
Did you read the article? Did you know that it would cost more to make x16 go to x8/x8 than it would cost just to wire it as x16/x16 from the outset? If you're not going to look at the system's details, at least please please please try to figure out what makes sense from a cost standpoint before assuming anything.

chumly said:
How about you guys take out that GPU and test it separately so we know what we're dealing with?
We did. Article states the 8950 is completely unchanged from the 7950. Since the site has covered the 7950 extensively, it's covered the 8950 extensively.

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November 27, 2013 4:51:45 PM

Lol 1 year warranty and they want $2300 for this thing? The computer is hardly worth $1400.
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November 27, 2013 6:15:19 PM

I scrolled down this thing saying to myself, "Hm, if this is less than $2000, there might be hope for big name companies and gaming rigs.". This came close though.
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November 27, 2013 11:09:11 PM

I played with this rig at fry's electronics... OMG. Just by clicking on some things i could feel how much faster it was than mine
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November 28, 2013 11:56:30 AM

Could just build that for HALF the cost...
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November 28, 2013 5:21:24 PM

That case is the ugliest case I've ever seen in my entire life.
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November 29, 2013 10:17:00 AM

I build this for $1830 Canadian:
CPU: 4770K 3.5 GHZ quad core (just as good as 3930K for gaming)
Heatsink: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (overclock as much as you desire)
MB: Asus Z87-PRO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (full ATX board with massive overclocking potential)
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Video: MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (better than 8950 lol)
SSD: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case (not a gimmicky case but a good one)
PSU: Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80+ Bronze (more wattage than 625W and a good PSU)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)

Total price $1830.40 Canadian without taking into account any rebates.
You can have a system integrator (like NCIX) build this for your for an additional $50 and you get a 1 year warranty with it.

So, even if you want something pre-built, you can:
A) get a better system with a better video card
B) still get a 1 year warranty from the integrator
C) Do A and B for less $$$ (even if you are in Canada)
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November 29, 2013 11:38:25 AM

FYI, Lenovo is owned by the communist government of the People's Republic of China, that's why the US government doesn't purchase them.
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