Lenovo Erazer X700 Gaming PC Review: Is It As Fast As It Looks?
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Crashman
November 26, 2013 9:00:08 PM
Famed for its ThinkPads, data center-oriented servers, and dependable office PCs, Lenovo is looking to carve out a piece of the enthusiast segment with its Erazer X700 gaming system. Can this sexy-looking setup stand up against our SBM configurations?
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larsoncc
November 26, 2013 9:24:18 PM
I won the $2550 computer featured in the Q3 SBM Marathon. I believe their scores using that system were 'slightly' hampered by fact that one of the 760s that was going bad. After RMA'ing the card, and using the same overclocks as featured in the SBM article, as well as moving the system to a high airflow case (Corsair Carbide Air 540) the 3DMark score is 19,100 (http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/7455484). Thanks Tom's!
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10
chumly
November 26, 2013 9:36:44 PM
Score
-5
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monsta
November 26, 2013 9:39:18 PM
chumly
November 26, 2013 9:40:23 PM
chumly said:
....and wth is an HD 8950?!?!?!HD 8XXX cards are rebranded 7XXX cards for OEMS to use for marketing, cause you know, uninformed Consumers love to think that larger number means better and that new products(despite not really being new) convinces them to buy it. an 8950 should be a rebranded 7950
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6
vaughn2k
November 26, 2013 10:38:17 PM
SWEETMUSK
November 26, 2013 10:45:01 PM
m32
November 26, 2013 10:47:00 PM
djorgji
November 26, 2013 11:57:03 PM
lostgamer_03 said:
Radeon 8950? Sir, it doesn't exist. http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/8000/Pa...
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5
joditas
November 27, 2013 1:17:57 AM
These OEMs make so-call "gaming PC" really need to know gaudy and oversized front bezel that take unnecessary space are the things of past. Without looking at some nice looking DIY computer cases out there, just take a look at design of next gen consoles. Those systems are used mainly for gaming yet they don't design their cases this way, why do these OEMs always think they have to design their "gaming PC" like this? What is more important are good cooling while keep noise own, preferably positive air pressure, practical features like easily removable dust filters for all intake fans, vibration cancelling fixture for HDD, and clean cable routing. The cables in this thing is a mess. I would say one thing good for the X700, the extra cooling for PWM is a nice touch.
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5
Divyanshu Sah
November 27, 2013 1:46:09 AM
Crashman
November 27, 2013 2:03:45 AM
chumly said:
wtf resolutions are you testing? How about 1440p? Hardly ANYONE uses dual/triple monitor setups because the framerate sucks so entirely and 99% of the people on the planet don't have $5k to throw at a gaming PC. you are wasting your time. give us SINGLE monitor configs, for the love of god.chumly said:
....and wth is an HD 8950?!?!?!dudewitbow said:
HD 8XXX cards are rebranded 7XXX cards for OEMS to use for marketing, cause you know, uninformed Consumers love to think that larger number means better and that new products(despite not really being new) convinces them to buy it. an 8950 should be a rebranded 7950bryonhowley said:
lostgamer_03 said:
Radeon 8950? Sir, it doesn't exist. http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/8000/Pa...
Excellent! I see you guys have the thread well covered, thanks again!
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3
Metalrenok
November 27, 2013 3:12:39 AM
Crashman
November 27, 2013 3:55:54 AM
Metalrenok
November 27, 2013 4:01:58 AM
burkhartmj
November 27, 2013 5:56:18 AM
chumly said:
wtf resolutions are you testing? How about 1440p? Hardly ANYONE uses dual/triple monitor setups because the framerate sucks so entirely and 99% of the people on the planet don't have $5k to throw at a gaming PC. you are wasting your time. give us SINGLE monitor configs, for the love of god.I imagine they're out there, but the only 1440p monitors I've ever seen in person are iMacs, and that's kind of irrelevant when reviewing a gaming PC. Most people either do 1080p [which they included], something close [like my precious 24 inch 1200p Dell] so that the 1080p benchmarks are relevant, or use multiple monitors.
Also, when you're talking about a 2500 dollar computer it only makes sense to spend serious coin on peripherals as well, especially monitors [whether it be multiple monitors or a 4K monitor], so I can believe that multi-monitor benchmarks would be relevant in this situation.
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0
red77star
November 27, 2013 6:07:34 AM
therogerwilco
November 27, 2013 6:23:19 AM
dwatterworth
November 27, 2013 6:28:01 AM
I really don't mind the look of the case. Everyone tries to make something "new" or "cool" and there will always be disagreement among the consumers. Those drive slots on the front, are they hot-swap? Is there a backplane?
However the instant I saw CAS 11 1600 RAM, my expectations hit the floor. CAS 9 1600 seems to be the enthusiast/gaming norm right now. If Lenovo isn't even using that, what other small details did they miss? It's like the Wi-Fi antenna card taking up the SLI/XFire slot. Someone didn't pay attention to the small details.
I'm not disappointed in the 830 since it's still a heckouva SSD, but why only 128GB in a machine like this? Also a 8/7950 is a great card, plenty of power for 1080p, but why not a top-end card like a 7970/290 or 770/680 or even 780?
And normally I don't mind mATX either, but even without the antenna problem, you still don't have space between multiple cards for cooling ( blower style or not, I wouldn't like to do that. )
But then there's the VRM cooler, showing someone on the design team WAS paying attention
Most everything in here is a generation old ( are close enough, ) and that's fine for a workhorse machine or even upper gaming, but it does not deserve the price premium Lenovo wants. Again, I go back to the RAM CAS and the VRM cooler. This machine just feels disjointed, like it doesn't know what it wants to be. Parts show brilliance, but most feels like a disappointment.
However the instant I saw CAS 11 1600 RAM, my expectations hit the floor. CAS 9 1600 seems to be the enthusiast/gaming norm right now. If Lenovo isn't even using that, what other small details did they miss? It's like the Wi-Fi antenna card taking up the SLI/XFire slot. Someone didn't pay attention to the small details.
I'm not disappointed in the 830 since it's still a heckouva SSD, but why only 128GB in a machine like this? Also a 8/7950 is a great card, plenty of power for 1080p, but why not a top-end card like a 7970/290 or 770/680 or even 780?
And normally I don't mind mATX either, but even without the antenna problem, you still don't have space between multiple cards for cooling ( blower style or not, I wouldn't like to do that. )
But then there's the VRM cooler, showing someone on the design team WAS paying attention
Most everything in here is a generation old ( are close enough, ) and that's fine for a workhorse machine or even upper gaming, but it does not deserve the price premium Lenovo wants. Again, I go back to the RAM CAS and the VRM cooler. This machine just feels disjointed, like it doesn't know what it wants to be. Parts show brilliance, but most feels like a disappointment.
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0
dgingeri
November 27, 2013 7:38:32 AM
The mATX board ruined this whole thing for me, just like the Dell/Alienware Aurora. Why the heck would someone get a 3930k without being able to utilize all the PCIe lanes? Micro ATX boards are a huge mistake with such a processor. The stupidity level of Lenovo with this move alone is so confusing. I was astounded when Dell put out that trash that is the Aurora. If they're going to use a mATX board with this chip, they should at least offer a PCIe x8 SATA 6Gb RAID controller on the board.
I have a 3930k, and I am currently using all 40 PCIe lanes, plus one from the southbridge: 2X GTX680s, 10Gbe, RAID controller, and a Soundblaster Z. That's the way a chip like this should be used.
I have a 3930k, and I am currently using all 40 PCIe lanes, plus one from the southbridge: 2X GTX680s, 10Gbe, RAID controller, and a Soundblaster Z. That's the way a chip like this should be used.
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0
Metalrenok
November 27, 2013 7:49:55 AM
burkhartmj
November 27, 2013 8:06:12 AM
rolli59 said:
What do people expect from an pre-built, they have done well for what it is and in any case if you are a serious gamer would you not build yourself so you can pick the parts?I think the issue here is that this computer doesn't seem to know what it wants to be. Some aspects play to a gamer's checklist, and some completely miss the point and angle themselves more for general high power computing. You look at the boutiques this will compete directly with, and even if it's more expensive it's at least properly focused in its hardware configuration.
I generally agree with you about building your own computer if you want solid, focused power for whatever you're going to be doing, but I also know people who'd rather just buy a system they know works. Most of them tend to be IT too, the rationale being they deal with fixing/rebuilding computers all day, they don't want to do it when they get home too. So there is a market for these kinds of boutique systems, and this just doesn't fit the bill.
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0
xiinc37
November 27, 2013 8:13:11 AM
If you look closely, you can see that the VRM MOSFETs on the mobo are D-PAKs. Not only are those not the best, but they are the absolute worst, if you spend more than $90 on a mobo you can do way better. That right there kills it, if you want to charge $2500 for something, don't use shit-tier components.
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0
warezme
November 27, 2013 8:25:44 AM
Tacky molded plastic exterior and generic interior is typical big company design. It's to expensive for what you get. The author is right, to much emphasis on CPU and not enough on graphics but with a 650w PS, how much more graphics can you really add? Odds are it only has a single 16x PCIe or two 8x's on a generic OEM mobo. Another cheap big company feature.
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0
stewthedude
November 27, 2013 8:34:38 AM
I spent right around $1200 on my PC and it absolutely crushes this PC. Of course I have 8 gigs of Ram and I don't have a SSD, but seeing as this PC is for gaming those benchmarks are a little underwhelming for a price tag that high. You mine as well buy a brand new gaming laptop and get similar performance/price. Desktops are supposed to be cheaper. That's the point. That CPU was definitely overkill when that money could have been used on a better GPU.
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0
dwatterworth
November 27, 2013 8:47:23 AM
This thing was clearly designed by an accountant. $1000 previous gen processor on a junk MB that has next to no room for expansion? Why even make it an ATX case? Drop to a 4 core proc and this thing could fit in an ITX box.
I'll never understand the 'gaming case' aesthetic. It looks like it only appeals to 12 year olds or racerboys, neither of which are known to have 2,000+ to drop on an ambiguous use machine.
I'll never understand the 'gaming case' aesthetic. It looks like it only appeals to 12 year olds or racerboys, neither of which are known to have 2,000+ to drop on an ambiguous use machine.
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0
Anonymous
November 27, 2013 9:20:37 AM
therogerwilco said:
Sorry Lenovo, you need to bring the price down. This system could have been built for a grand.Seriously. Well maybe not with a 3930K which doesn't benefit gaming, but with a 4670K, GTX 760, and a Samsung 840 Pro, you could get by for around the $1K mark. I'm sure the high price is because of the 3930K. I mean don't get me wrong, I love my Lenovo Y500, but would I buy a desktop with such a ridiculous markup and weak GPU? No freakin' way!!!
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0
timaahhh
November 27, 2013 10:10:07 AM
soldier44
November 27, 2013 1:11:31 PM
chumly
November 27, 2013 2:41:44 PM
Crashman
November 27, 2013 4:12:54 PM
warezme said:
Tacky molded plastic exterior and generic interior is typical big company design. It's to expensive for what you get. The author is right, to much emphasis on CPU and not enough on graphics but with a 650w PS, how much more graphics can you really add? Odds are it only has a single 16x PCIe or two 8x's on a generic OEM mobo. Another cheap big company feature.chumly said:
How about you guys take out that GPU and test it separately so we know what we're dealing with?Score
0
doomtomb
November 27, 2013 4:51:45 PM
captinchikin
November 27, 2013 6:15:19 PM
fritolay77
November 27, 2013 11:09:11 PM
Rioux
November 28, 2013 11:56:30 AM
ronch79
November 28, 2013 5:21:24 PM
kulmnar
November 29, 2013 10:17:00 AM
I build this for $1830 Canadian:
CPU: 4770K 3.5 GHZ quad core (just as good as 3930K for gaming)
Heatsink: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (overclock as much as you desire)
MB: Asus Z87-PRO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (full ATX board with massive overclocking potential)
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Video: MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (better than 8950 lol)
SSD: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case (not a gimmicky case but a good one)
PSU: Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80+ Bronze (more wattage than 625W and a good PSU)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)
Total price $1830.40 Canadian without taking into account any rebates.
You can have a system integrator (like NCIX) build this for your for an additional $50 and you get a 1 year warranty with it.
So, even if you want something pre-built, you can:
A) get a better system with a better video card
B) still get a 1 year warranty from the integrator
C) Do A and B for less $$$ (even if you are in Canada)
CPU: 4770K 3.5 GHZ quad core (just as good as 3930K for gaming)
Heatsink: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (overclock as much as you desire)
MB: Asus Z87-PRO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (full ATX board with massive overclocking potential)
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Video: MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (better than 8950 lol)
SSD: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case (not a gimmicky case but a good one)
PSU: Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80+ Bronze (more wattage than 625W and a good PSU)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)
Total price $1830.40 Canadian without taking into account any rebates.
You can have a system integrator (like NCIX) build this for your for an additional $50 and you get a 1 year warranty with it.
So, even if you want something pre-built, you can:
A) get a better system with a better video card
B) still get a 1 year warranty from the integrator
C) Do A and B for less $$$ (even if you are in Canada)
Score
0
Gilchrist
November 29, 2013 11:38:25 AM
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