Need help with $1000 Gaming PC Build (Have never built a PC Before)

[DangerousDeven]

With Black Friday and Cyber Monday coming soon and some sales already there I figured it be good to start ordering computer parts, I don't have quite enough money just yet to buy all the parts but I have enough to buy the expensive ones like graphics card and processor. So yeah what you'd normally spend on a graphics card (for example) for a $1000 PC build I'm thinking I could spend the same money and get an even better card since there will be some on sale. I'm new to this computer building thing so I don't know what parts to order which is why I consulted the experts on this forum, thanks in advance!

 

[Sayken]

well then I would go for something like this:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2aiXC
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2aiXC/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2aiXC/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Macho-120 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler ($45.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($138.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($68.85 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card ($405.91 @ Newegg)
Case: Cougar Solution (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1013.67
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-28 09:36 EST-0500)

should kill anything at 1920x1080 for 3 years.
but wait for radeon r9 290 graphics custom version (with custom coolers either windforce 3x or sapphire toxic versions) should come out in 1 week or so

 

[Sayken]

better swap the cooler to a thermalright hr-02 macho if you are hard overclocker it should handle any heat.
if you inted for medium OC then use a hyper 212 evo cpu cooler should cost 20$.

if you really want to buy the gpu right now then a gtx 780 windforce 3x or evga superclocked should do the job.
but I would still wait for a r9 290 custom version (is 1% better than gtx 780 which costs 500$ while r9 290 is around 400$)
a toxic r9 290 will let a gtx 780 in the dust

 

[DangerousDeven]

better swap the cooler to a thermalright hr-02 macho if you are hard overclocker it should handle any heat.
if you inted for medium OC then use a hyper 212 evo cpu cooler should cost 20$.

if you really want to buy the gpu right now then a gtx 780 windforce 3x or evga superclocked should do the job.
but I would still wait for a r9 290 custom version (is 1% better than gtx 780 which costs 500$ while r9 290 is around 400$)
a toxic r9 290 will let a gtx 780 in the dust

Thanks for your advice and help! I'm new to building a PC so I don't think I'm comfortable with overclocking, so I don't think I'll swap the cooler to a thermalright hr-02 macho. Not that I don't trust your advice as it is way better than parts I'd pick out since I'm new to this, but I'd like to see some other opinions just out of curiousity to see what other people think. So does anyone have any other suggestions, or do you think Sayken here as picked out the perfect parts for a $1000 rig?

 

[Sayken]

well then sure let's see what others write.
you said you don't wish to overclock at all right? then one more build from me:
given a performance ratio no one will suggest better but well they might get a better price than my build:
anyway here it is:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2anNC
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2anNC/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2anNC/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($117.99 @ Newegg) (Z series aren't only about overclocking yet a h87 will still do well but not comparable to z87. keep away from b87 horrible mainboards)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($68.85 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($499.99 @ Newegg)
(just wait for r9 290 custom amd card.. you won't regret it and it has best price for performance you can find.. 100$ cheaper than nvidia and even better in performance)
Case: Cougar Solution (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1045.76
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-28 12:04 EST-0500)

 

[DangerousDeven]

well then sure let's see what others write.
you said you don't wish to overclock at all right? then one more build from me:
given a performance ratio no one will suggest better but well they might get a better price than my build:
anyway here it is:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2anNC
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2anNC/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2anNC/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($117.99 @ Newegg) (Z series aren't only about overclocking yet a h87 will still do well but not comparable to z87. keep away from b87 horrible mainboards)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($68.85 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($499.99 @ Newegg)
(just wait for r9 290 custom amd card.. you won't regret it and it has best price for performance you can find.. 100$ cheaper than nvidia and even better in performance)
Case: Cougar Solution (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1045.76
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-28 12:04 EST-0500)

Do you think it's a good idea to maybe save up a little more and invest in an SSD just for the OS? I've heard that having a SSD for the OS and a regular drive for storage is a good idea. Another thing thing I want to ask is that shipping is very expensive where I live so it's either pay a lot of money (depending on weight) to ship a case here, or buy a case here (haven't looked around yet), so I guess my real question is do you think having a good case is good in the long run not just for looks but for preserving your computer (air flow, dust filters, etc)?

 

[Sayken]

hmm about the case the more you pay the better it looks.
a cougar solution is pretty much similar to a corsair shinobi as long as air flow, dust filters, melting protection, freeze cover... are taken into consideration.
you can go for a cooler master case if you want best air flow case.
about shipping I have no clue. never bought through internet.

a ssd will help you load the windows by a few seconds faster and a few programs like photoshop or games loading times (skyrim) just faster loading.
a ssd won't help in performance at all!
if you want to build pc right now then is not worth at all cause you can get a better gpu for the money.
if you wait for r9 290 which will cost 100$ less than best card gtx 780 ("gtx 780 "ti"" is rip off if you don't play on 4 monitors) you can get a ssd as well and have best pieces in 1000$ price

 

[DangerousDeven]

hmm about the case the more you pay the better it looks.
a cougar solution is pretty much similar to a corsair shinobi as long as air flow, dust filters, melting protection, freeze cover... are taken into consideration.
you can go for a cooler master case if you want best air flow case.
about shipping I have no clue. never bought through internet.

a ssd will help you load the windows by a few seconds faster and a few programs like photoshop or games loading times (skyrim) just faster loading.
a ssd won't help in performance at all!
if you want to build pc right now then is not worth at all cause you can get a better gpu for the money.
if you wait for r9 290 which will cost 100$ less than best card gtx 780 ("gtx 780 "ti"" is rip off if you don't play on 4 monitors) you can get a ssd as well and have best pieces in 1000$ price

I do do video editing and photoshoping, and I don't mind waiting a bit for saving up for an ssd, with that said do you think it's worth it? Also do you know how much a cougar solution weighs?

 

[Sayken]

yet is still up to you.
you can read more information about every piece.
Zalman Z11 plus and Aerocool Vs-92 White Edition are damn good and lasting cases if you ask me

 

[Sayken]

yes a ssd is worth it of course as long as you don't ruin other pieces to get it lol.
cougar solution weighs 5.26kg = 11,596315 pounds.
read here

http://www.cougar-world.com/products/pc_case/solution.html

 

[Sayken]

btw you do light video editing and photoshop or take it to a higher degree (like intensive work on rendering, editing...)
for light, medium video editing and such a i5 4570 is very good.
medium and hard editing I would go for a fx 8320 or i7 4770
professional rendering, editing = i7 4930k for the way lol

 

[DangerousDeven]

yes a ssd is worth it of course as long as you don't ruin other pieces to get it lol.
cougar solution weighs 5.26kg = 11,596315 pounds.
read here

http://www.atelco.de/Midi/62813/Cougar+Solution+ohne+Netzteil.article?pcconfAddURI=pcconfigurator.jsp%3FpcConfigurator.pccasewopa.pccasewopa.0%3D62813%3A3004&pcconfStep=1

Alright sounds great! Thank you for all your help, I will right down your builds and probably go with them. Once again thanks!

 

[DangerousDeven]

btw you do light video editing and photoshop or take it to a higher degree (like intensive work on rendering, editing...)
for light, medium video editing and such a i5 4570 is very good.
medium and hard editing I would go for a fx 8320 or i7 4770
professional rendering, editing = i7 4930k for the way lol

Around light to medium, nothing too heavy.

 

[Sayken]

i5 4570 should do very good then.
check the link as well for cougar solution I edited in previous reply.
and no need to thank.
looks like others are to lazy to reply lol.

well if you are interested in a super psu which I would never recommend lol check this for fun :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817553016
they give a 6 years warranty for this crap where I live lol

 

[DangerousDeven]

i5 4570 should do very good then.
check the link as well for cougar solution I edited in previous reply.
and no need to thank.
looks like others are to lazy to reply lol.

well if you are interested in a super psu which I would never recommend lol check this for fun :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817553016
they give a 6 years warranty for this crap where I live lol

Is there really any difference between PSUs? I mean ik theres probably a difference between really bad ones and really good ones but if you compare a decent one to a super high end one what would be the difference really?

 

[Sayken]

between the xfx one I suggested and the cougar thingo there is no difference lol. just warranty and looks, sometimes materials from which the exterior of the psus are made.
Everything 80+ bronze should do very well
corsair, cougar, seasonic, xfx, thermaltake, shinkaisen they are all pretty much the same.
(modular means the cables are detachable and non modular means no detachable cables that's all =D)
but of course platinum over bronze will be a bit longer lasting and make a bit less noise (very very bit lol)

 

[Sayken]

what matter is to have a 80+ bronze at least and the required wattage for the pieces you have inside lol.
a 650w psu should handle everything (except 2 x gtx 780 or gtx 780ti which makes no sense to me lol (maybe will in future))

 

[Sayken]

just go for quality, good warranty and cheap price!
anything from the mentioned above psu brands = quality lol

 

[DangerousDeven]

I also have another question, windows 7 or windows 8? I know a lot of people hate windows 8, I tried it on a virtual box and thought it was fine and didn't mind the metro interface, so is there any other reason not to go for windows 8?

 

[Sayken]

windows 7 if you ask me.
is easy to controll if you want to edit data and change registries. is a good windows to mess with and is still stable.

 

[DangerousDeven]

windows 7 if you ask me.
is easy to controll if you want to edit data and change registries. is a good windows to mess with and is still stable.

ok

 

[Sayken]

windows 8 is still a good choice as a regular user but it messes up some control options. if you change data and skin of windows it will start reseting itself and other crap lol. windows 7 is not really ubuntu alike but it gives some free room for user customization.
let's say windows 8 offers more security but that security ain't aimed at malwares but rather at the user that tries to change it's settings.
yet only for gaming and video editing even windows 8 is a beast

 

[DangerousDeven]

windows 8 is still a good choice as a regular user but it messes up some control options. if you change data and skin of windows it will start reseting itself and other crap lol. windows 7 is not really ubuntu alike but it gives some free room for user customization.
let's say windows 8 offers more security but that security ain't aimed at malwares but rather at the user that tries to change it's settings.
yet only for gaming and video editing even windows 8 is a beast

thanks for the info

 

[Sayken]

np just contact me whenever you need anything
as long as I am on I will try to answer.

 

[Sayken]

of and if you get the msi g45 mainboard search for a d4 coder and disable overclocking option as well as cpu particle booster. it shall give a 15% performance increase in wattage distribution as well as increase of the mainboard battery lifespan or just use a bios editor http://awdbedit.sourceforge.net/
(only if you have experience in codecs editing.. so not really recommended) just destroyed a pc doing this yet a success made a pc work faster as funny as it sounds