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Need help with $1000 Gaming PC Build (Have never built a PC Before)

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November 27, 2013 2:23:15 PM

With Black Friday and Cyber Monday coming soon and some sales already there I figured it be good to start ordering computer parts, I don't have quite enough money just yet to buy all the parts but I have enough to buy the expensive ones like graphics card and processor. So yeah what you'd normally spend on a graphics card (for example) for a $1000 PC build I'm thinking I could spend the same money and get an even better card since there will be some on sale. I'm new to this computer building thing so I don't know what parts to order which is why I consulted the experts on this forum, thanks in advance!
November 28, 2013 6:37:18 AM

well then I would go for something like this:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2aiXC
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2aiXC/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2aiXC/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Macho-120 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler ($45.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($138.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($68.85 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card ($405.91 @ Newegg)
Case: Cougar Solution (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1013.67
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-28 09:36 EST-0500)

should kill anything at 1920x1080 for 3 years.
but wait for radeon r9 290 graphics custom version (with custom coolers either windforce 3x or sapphire toxic versions) should come out in 1 week or so
November 28, 2013 6:40:14 AM

better swap the cooler to a thermalright hr-02 macho if you are hard overclocker it should handle any heat.
if you inted for medium OC then use a hyper 212 evo cpu cooler should cost 20$.

if you really want to buy the gpu right now then a gtx 780 windforce 3x or evga superclocked should do the job.
but I would still wait for a r9 290 custom version (is 1% better than gtx 780 which costs 500$ while r9 290 is around 400$)
a toxic r9 290 will let a gtx 780 in the dust
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November 28, 2013 8:56:14 AM

Sayken said:
better swap the cooler to a thermalright hr-02 macho if you are hard overclocker it should handle any heat.
if you inted for medium OC then use a hyper 212 evo cpu cooler should cost 20$.

if you really want to buy the gpu right now then a gtx 780 windforce 3x or evga superclocked should do the job.
but I would still wait for a r9 290 custom version (is 1% better than gtx 780 which costs 500$ while r9 290 is around 400$)
a toxic r9 290 will let a gtx 780 in the dust

Thanks for your advice and help! I'm new to building a PC so I don't think I'm comfortable with overclocking, so I don't think I'll swap the cooler to a thermalright hr-02 macho. Not that I don't trust your advice as it is way better than parts I'd pick out since I'm new to this, but I'd like to see some other opinions just out of curiousity to see what other people think. So does anyone have any other suggestions, or do you think Sayken here as picked out the perfect parts for a $1000 rig?
November 28, 2013 9:07:03 AM

well then sure let's see what others write.
you said you don't wish to overclock at all right? then one more build from me:
given a performance ratio no one will suggest better but well they might get a better price than my build:
anyway here it is:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2anNC
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2anNC/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2anNC/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($117.99 @ Newegg) (Z series aren't only about overclocking yet a h87 will still do well but not comparable to z87. keep away from b87 horrible mainboards)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($68.85 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($499.99 @ Newegg)
(just wait for r9 290 custom amd card.. you won't regret it and it has best price for performance you can find.. 100$ cheaper than nvidia and even better in performance)
Case: Cougar Solution (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1045.76
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-28 12:04 EST-0500)
November 28, 2013 9:20:12 AM

Sayken said:
well then sure let's see what others write.
you said you don't wish to overclock at all right? then one more build from me:
given a performance ratio no one will suggest better but well they might get a better price than my build:
anyway here it is:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2anNC
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2anNC/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2anNC/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($117.99 @ Newegg) (Z series aren't only about overclocking yet a h87 will still do well but not comparable to z87. keep away from b87 horrible mainboards)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($68.85 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($499.99 @ Newegg)
(just wait for r9 290 custom amd card.. you won't regret it and it has best price for performance you can find.. 100$ cheaper than nvidia and even better in performance)
Case: Cougar Solution (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1045.76
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-28 12:04 EST-0500)


Do you think it's a good idea to maybe save up a little more and invest in an SSD just for the OS? I've heard that having a SSD for the OS and a regular drive for storage is a good idea. Another thing thing I want to ask is that shipping is very expensive where I live so it's either pay a lot of money (depending on weight) to ship a case here, or buy a case here (haven't looked around yet), so I guess my real question is do you think having a good case is good in the long run not just for looks but for preserving your computer (air flow, dust filters, etc)?
November 28, 2013 9:29:34 AM

hmm about the case the more you pay the better it looks.
a cougar solution is pretty much similar to a corsair shinobi as long as air flow, dust filters, melting protection, freeze cover... are taken into consideration.
you can go for a cooler master case if you want best air flow case.
about shipping I have no clue. never bought through internet.

a ssd will help you load the windows by a few seconds faster and a few programs like photoshop or games loading times (skyrim) just faster loading.
a ssd won't help in performance at all!
if you want to build pc right now then is not worth at all cause you can get a better gpu for the money.
if you wait for r9 290 which will cost 100$ less than best card gtx 780 ("gtx 780 "ti"" is rip off if you don't play on 4 monitors) you can get a ssd as well and have best pieces in 1000$ price
November 28, 2013 9:37:56 AM

Sayken said:
hmm about the case the more you pay the better it looks.
a cougar solution is pretty much similar to a corsair shinobi as long as air flow, dust filters, melting protection, freeze cover... are taken into consideration.
you can go for a cooler master case if you want best air flow case.
about shipping I have no clue. never bought through internet.

a ssd will help you load the windows by a few seconds faster and a few programs like photoshop or games loading times (skyrim) just faster loading.
a ssd won't help in performance at all!
if you want to build pc right now then is not worth at all cause you can get a better gpu for the money.
if you wait for r9 290 which will cost 100$ less than best card gtx 780 ("gtx 780 "ti"" is rip off if you don't play on 4 monitors) you can get a ssd as well and have best pieces in 1000$ price


I do do video editing and photoshoping, and I don't mind waiting a bit for saving up for an ssd, with that said do you think it's worth it? Also do you know how much a cougar solution weighs?
November 28, 2013 9:39:06 AM

yet is still up to you.
you can read more information about every piece.
Zalman Z11 plus and Aerocool Vs-92 White Edition are damn good and lasting cases if you ask me
November 28, 2013 9:44:19 AM

btw you do light video editing and photoshop or take it to a higher degree (like intensive work on rendering, editing...)
for light, medium video editing and such a i5 4570 is very good.
medium and hard editing I would go for a fx 8320 or i7 4770
professional rendering, editing = i7 4930k for the way lol
November 28, 2013 9:50:05 AM

Sayken said:
yes a ssd is worth it of course as long as you don't ruin other pieces to get it lol.
cougar solution weighs 5.26kg = 11,596315 pounds.
read here o.O

http://www.atelco.de/Midi/62813/Cougar+Solution+ohne+Ne...


Alright sounds great! Thank you for all your help, I will right down your builds and probably go with them. Once again thanks!
November 28, 2013 9:50:41 AM

Sayken said:
btw you do light video editing and photoshop or take it to a higher degree (like intensive work on rendering, editing...)
for light, medium video editing and such a i5 4570 is very good.
medium and hard editing I would go for a fx 8320 or i7 4770
professional rendering, editing = i7 4930k for the way lol


Around light to medium, nothing too heavy.
November 28, 2013 9:55:43 AM

i5 4570 should do very good then.
check the link as well for cougar solution I edited in previous reply.
and no need to thank.
looks like others are to lazy to reply lol.

well if you are interested in a super psu which I would never recommend lol check this for fun :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
they give a 6 years warranty for this crap where I live lol
November 28, 2013 10:11:38 AM

Sayken said:
i5 4570 should do very good then.
check the link as well for cougar solution I edited in previous reply.
and no need to thank.
looks like others are to lazy to reply lol.

well if you are interested in a super psu which I would never recommend lol check this for fun :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
they give a 6 years warranty for this crap where I live lol


Is there really any difference between PSUs? I mean ik theres probably a difference between really bad ones and really good ones but if you compare a decent one to a super high end one what would be the difference really?
November 28, 2013 10:27:37 AM

between the xfx one I suggested and the cougar thingo there is no difference lol. just warranty and looks, sometimes materials from which the exterior of the psus are made.
Everything 80+ bronze should do very well
corsair, cougar, seasonic, xfx, thermaltake, shinkaisen they are all pretty much the same.
(modular means the cables are detachable and non modular means no detachable cables that's all =D)
but of course platinum over bronze will be a bit longer lasting and make a bit less noise (very very bit lol)
November 28, 2013 10:30:44 AM

what matter is to have a 80+ bronze at least and the required wattage for the pieces you have inside lol.
a 650w psu should handle everything (except 2 x gtx 780 or gtx 780ti which makes no sense to me lol (maybe will in future))
November 28, 2013 10:33:22 AM

just go for quality, good warranty and cheap price!
anything from the mentioned above psu brands = quality lol
November 28, 2013 11:30:54 AM

I also have another question, windows 7 or windows 8? I know a lot of people hate windows 8, I tried it on a virtual box and thought it was fine and didn't mind the metro interface, so is there any other reason not to go for windows 8?
November 29, 2013 4:57:39 AM

windows 7 if you ask me.
is easy to controll if you want to edit data and change registries. is a good windows to mess with and is still stable.
November 29, 2013 6:16:39 AM

Sayken said:
windows 7 if you ask me.
is easy to controll if you want to edit data and change registries. is a good windows to mess with and is still stable.


ok
November 29, 2013 7:46:35 AM

windows 8 is still a good choice as a regular user but it messes up some control options. if you change data and skin of windows it will start reseting itself and other crap lol. windows 7 is not really ubuntu alike but it gives some free room for user customization.
let's say windows 8 offers more security but that security ain't aimed at malwares but rather at the user that tries to change it's settings.
yet only for gaming and video editing even windows 8 is a beast
November 29, 2013 9:00:40 AM

Sayken said:
windows 8 is still a good choice as a regular user but it messes up some control options. if you change data and skin of windows it will start reseting itself and other crap lol. windows 7 is not really ubuntu alike but it gives some free room for user customization.
let's say windows 8 offers more security but that security ain't aimed at malwares but rather at the user that tries to change it's settings.
yet only for gaming and video editing even windows 8 is a beast


thanks for the info
November 29, 2013 9:47:05 AM

np just contact me whenever you need anything
as long as I am on I will try to answer.
November 29, 2013 9:56:01 AM

of and if you get the msi g45 mainboard search for a d4 coder and disable overclocking option as well as cpu particle booster. it shall give a 15% performance increase in wattage distribution as well as increase of the mainboard battery lifespan or just use a bios editor http://awdbedit.sourceforge.net/
(only if you have experience in codecs editing.. so not really recommended) just destroyed a pc doing this yet a success made a pc work faster as funny as it sounds
November 29, 2013 9:56:46 AM

nvm forget that.
best of luck and hope you get the best quality and luckiest pieces XP
December 3, 2013 4:26:09 PM

Sayken said:
np just contact me whenever you need anything
as long as I am on I will try to answer.


I was thinking of getting the Corsair 350D, is it a good enough case to hold all the parts for the parts from the second build you gave me (the gtx 780 one)?
December 3, 2013 10:57:28 PM

yeah but messed up space and bad cooling and the 780 won't fit in a mini case as long as you don't modify it yourself... and you will need a mini atx mainboard for that case. you need at least a midi case for more room better air flow room for the pieces to breath ...
December 4, 2013 5:56:20 AM

Sayken said:
yeah but messed up space and bad cooling and the 780 won't fit in a mini case as long as you don't modify it yourself... and you will need a mini atx mainboard for that case. you need at least a midi case for more room better air flow room for the pieces to breath ...


What about a rosewill challenger u3, rosewill blackhawk, carbide 330r, bitfenix ronin, or nzxt source 210? any of those good?
December 4, 2013 1:48:24 PM

both blackhawk and ronin are good cases.
carbide is known for good air flow.
go for which you like most all are good cases.
personally i find the challenger ugly lol
December 5, 2013 5:51:16 AM

Sayken said:
both blackhawk and ronin are good cases.
carbide is known for good air flow.
go for which you like most all are good cases.
personally i find the challenger ugly lol

Alright I'm going to go with the BitFenix Ronin then, but it's only suppose to come with 2 fans, should I buy more and if so which ones of how many?
December 5, 2013 7:20:14 AM

hmm sorry clueless about case fans :( 
buy 1 more to be on safer side
check other posts on this forum about case coolers and decide which is for the best.
December 6, 2013 7:36:56 AM

Sayken said:
hmm sorry clueless about case fans :( 
buy 1 more to be on safer side
check other posts on this forum about case coolers and decide which is for the best.


Sorry for all the questions its just im new to this and you seem to be an expert. Does the ASRock Z87 Extreme4 motherboard have a wireless adapter built in and if not where do I buy one? I'd rather not buy like a USB dongle, id like it to be built inside the computer. thanks.
December 6, 2013 8:48:40 AM

extreme used to have but not sure about this one. newegg for inbuilt wireless adapter for mainboard.
lemme check later I am on phone now
ask whatever you wish I will answer all time as long as I have experience and clue about the item in question.
December 9, 2013 7:33:26 AM

Sayken said:
extreme used to have but not sure about this one. newegg for inbuilt wireless adapter for mainboard.
lemme check later I am on phone now
ask whatever you wish I will answer all time as long as I have experience and clue about the item in question.


What would you recommend for an SSD? It doesn't need to be big I was thinking around 100-200 GB area, most importantly I want something that's reliable.
December 9, 2013 8:46:28 AM

kingstone or samsung 120 or 128 gb version. check for sata III wel II as last resort. sata I not worth the money at all.
sandisk are better than both samsung and kingstone but the problem is they don't last long and you can't be sure that the product you buy is good lol. is more of a luck thing
December 13, 2013 1:35:19 PM

Sayken said:
kingstone or samsung 120 or 128 gb version. check for sata III wel II as last resort. sata I not worth the money at all.
sandisk are better than both samsung and kingstone but the problem is they don't last long and you can't be sure that the product you buy is good lol. is more of a luck thing


ASrock Z87 Extreme6/ac is $40 more on newegg, looks pretty much the same as the Extreme4 and has built in wifi, is it a good board?
December 14, 2013 3:02:19 AM

hmmm taking it like that: is only 40$ more and better will never get you anywhere
after extreme 6 you get msi gd65 for 10$ bucks less which leaves the 6 in the dust and for 30$ more you get sabertooth or gryphoon which leave the gd 65 in dust.
think about it. what do you really need it for? does it help you at all to pay those extra 40$?
never tested a z87 one to tell you though I see many good reviews but look I have the x79 extreme 6 and is complete crap I regret I bought it lol. (if z87 extreme 6 is different than x79 extreme 6 and an upgraded version of z87 extreme 4 then is a beast of a board and good choice, if it has the same options and material as my x79 extreme 6 then either the guys are drunk or plain retarded and I would keep away from it at all costs and get a asus z87 pro)
extreme 4 may be the best mainboard in the world at it's exact price (no less no more even by 1 buck lol) and is pretty much what one needs + very good for overclocking. on my i5 I own a msi g45 mb and I can say I am really happy with it.
Throw more money in the cpu or gpu that's where you need it or get a platinum psu for 100% stability and quiet spinning and endurance for like 6 years?.
and see what more info you can get on extreme 6 and go into a shop or so and see it perform. I can't tell you to buy something I never tested. if is as good as they say on asrock website then is a good mainboard but not really worth in my eyes.
just check the mb working then buy it. I remember having seen so much cute and super good crap about x79 extreme 6 that I bought it and now I feel like killing all of those goofs for their no brain crap lol.
If the shop allows you to give a product back if you are not happy with it then buy it and exchange for other if it makes you unhappy and maybe inform me too how it goes =D but if not I wouldn't risk without seeing it perform.
December 14, 2013 5:47:57 PM

Sayken said:
hmmm taking it like that: is only 40$ more and better will never get you anywhere
after extreme 6 you get msi gd65 for 10$ bucks less which leaves the 6 in the dust and for 30$ more you get sabertooth or gryphoon which leave the gd 65 in dust.
think about it. what do you really need it for? does it help you at all to pay those extra 40$?
never tested a z87 one to tell you though I see many good reviews but look I have the x79 extreme 6 and is complete crap I regret I bought it lol. (if z87 extreme 6 is different than x79 extreme 6 and an upgraded version of z87 extreme 4 then is a beast of a board and good choice, if it has the same options and material as my x79 extreme 6 then either the guys are drunk or plain retarded and I would keep away from it at all costs and get a asus z87 pro)
extreme 4 may be the best mainboard in the world at it's exact price (no less no more even by 1 buck lol) and is pretty much what one needs + very good for overclocking. on my i5 I own a msi g45 mb and I can say I am really happy with it.
Throw more money in the cpu or gpu that's where you need it or get a platinum psu for 100% stability and quiet spinning and endurance for like 6 years?.
and see what more info you can get on extreme 6 and go into a shop or so and see it perform. I can't tell you to buy something I never tested. if is as good as they say on asrock website then is a good mainboard but not really worth in my eyes.
just check the mb working then buy it. I remember having seen so much cute and super good crap about x79 extreme 6 that I bought it and now I feel like killing all of those goofs for their no brain crap lol.
If the shop allows you to give a product back if you are not happy with it then buy it and exchange for other if it makes you unhappy and maybe inform me too how it goes =D but if not I wouldn't risk without seeing it perform.


Well based on my location I have to order all my parts online, and I don't want to risk having to pay to ship it back so if it's risky I'll just go for a PCI expansion network adapater.
December 15, 2013 5:43:53 AM

true. given the fact no one answered to prove that z87 extreme 6 has been tested and is awesome I wouldn't recommend risking at all!
some mainboards I have tested myself and I would gladly recommend:
Msi z87 g45 gaming
Msi z87 gd65 gaming
asrock extreme 4
asus z87 a
asus z87 expert
asus z87 maximus VI hero

those are all I have seen run and I can tell they got whatever one could need.
if you have more money to waste then wait for custom r9 290X and get it.
now is all about luck too - there are chances where you get shipped a defect item that's why I hate online shopping and never do it.
well this is about all I can help with.
If you still have questions just spam ahead with them. I will answer all I can as long as the other users are on mute mode lol.
best of luck
!