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First Gaming PC Build! Would love advice, please!

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November 29, 2013 1:38:03 AM

Ok, so I am attempting at putting together a first build gaming PC. I'm looking to run a lot of the newer games coming out at High if not Ultra settings, and I believe this build would do the trick. (http://pcpartpicker.com/user/CozmoNaught/saved/2YKr)

Here is the case I would like to use: (http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_...)

Unfortunately, it's a bit out of my price range at the moment, so I built a much simpler build as well. (http://pcpartpicker.com/user/CozmoNaught/saved/2YJX)

As you can see, both Builds lack a Power Supply, as I do not fully comprehend what is required for a power supply. I definitely wouldn't want to choose the wrong thing, and would like some tips or ideas for the PSU.

Other than that, here are my main internal struggles I am having.

- Is the i7 worth the extra $90 versus the i5? (I plan on mainly gaming, but I am also a computer science Major. I may need the Hyperthreading Features at some point for Coding, but I don't really see myself getting into videoediting or anything to demanding of the Hyperthreading Feature.)

- Is the SSD beneficial to a gaming PC? (What are the prime benefits of a SSD besides a faster Boot time, as well as accessing memory faster?)

- Is the geforce 770 that much better than the 760? (The articles I've been reading say there is a 24% or so increase in overall "betterness", for lack of a better term.)

-Also, the determining what PSU I should look into.

-Also, is my midtower case large enough for all of these components?

Any advice, or information regarding this would be much appreciated!

Thanks for your time everyone!

-CozmoNaught

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November 29, 2013 2:06:49 AM

Right so :


I have dropped some unneeded cost from a few places like the motherboard, RAM, Blu-ray drive.

This allowed you to KEEP the GTX770 and also get an SSD.

If this still allows you to get the I7 instead, then do so.

But as for all the stuff I removed, you do not need that stuff EXCEPT maybe the Blu-ray, but I doubt it.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2b1YT
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2b1YT/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2b1YT/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($319.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - OEM (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1090.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-29 05:03 EST-0500)

As a side note, an SSD should really be a must at this cost range. It really improves general usage on a PC even if FPS does not improve.

8GB of RAM is MORE than enough for MOST usage, I doubt you need more.

If you have more to spend and don't think that the hyperthreading on the I7 will help, spend that money on a better graphics card.

Yes that chassis is more than large enough.
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November 29, 2013 1:00:58 PM

Novuake said:
Right so :


I have dropped some unneeded cost from a few places like the motherboard, RAM, Blu-ray drive.

This allowed you to KEEP the GTX770 and also get an SSD.

If this still allows you to get the I7 instead, then do so.

But as for all the stuff I removed, you do not need that stuff EXCEPT maybe the Blu-ray, but I doubt it.

...

As a side note, an SSD should really be a must at this cost range. It really improves general usage on a PC even if FPS does not improve.

8GB of RAM is MORE than enough for MOST usage, I doubt you need more.

If you have more to spend and don't think that the hyperthreading on the I7 will help, spend that money on a better graphics card.

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Thanks a bunch! Excellent response, and thanks for helping me out!

So the i5 has about the same benefits with gaming as the i7 then? My friend keeps telling me to get an i7 because it's "So much smoother." Whatever he means by that lol. I have an i7 laptop right now, but the graphics card is horrendous. Other than the hyperthreading feature of the i7, I don't see too much benefit over the i5.

Perfect. Now I know the benefit of an SSD now! So with that, I'm just storing the every day usage stuff on the SSD, correct? Things that actually benefit the computer as opposed to the games which I'd store on the HDD, correct?

And with the RAM, you say for "MOST usage." What exactly does that entail? Won't more RAM lead to better results in the long run? I suppose I can always upgrade my RAM whenever that time does come I'll need to upgrade. Just curious what you meant by that.

For the graphics card, the next step up from the 770 is the 780 (Or so I believe. I haven't checked out AMD or anything.) I've seen most 780's running at about 500 or so dollars. Would that investment be wiser? Also curious.

Thanks again for your time!


EDIT:

I've decided to stick with your build! Thank you a bunch for the help :) 
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November 30, 2013 2:51:05 AM

Yes, you can always add more RAM< you are correct on the SSD allocation as well. Same for the I7 :) 

A better graphics card is NEVER a bad idea on a gaming build if you have the money for it.

HOWEVER the GTX780 just is not worth the money, instead I would suggest you get a R9 290 at just over 400$, but that means you have to wait for the aftermarket coolers.
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