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Eurocom Panther 5D Notebook Review: Faster Than Your Desktop

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December 4, 2013 9:13:37 PM

I want the satisfaction of just dropping this monster on someone's desk, and say

"personal server: DEPLOY!"
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December 4, 2013 10:14:39 PM

Great for individuals that moves around often (i.e LAN parties, get togethers, etc) IF the hardware can be kept cool AND if the fan doesn't sound like a space rocket taking off. However, one will need a deep pocket to afford something like this.

@vmem "Personal Server: Please insert Credit Card to continue! $_$"
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December 4, 2013 10:17:44 PM

Sure it's better than my desktop, but it's also three times more expensive!
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December 4, 2013 10:20:44 PM

now this is how you're meant to play crisis 1-2-3 right by any one with an iMac.

the main people i can see needing this bad boy is division commanders on a battlefield as well as NSA hackers and CIA spies and Drone operators
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December 4, 2013 10:28:37 PM

you guys didn't review the sound volume :( 
but what i really wanted to see was the effects of ocing the gtx 680Ms :p 
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December 4, 2013 11:14:48 PM

Great article. Puts my 17.3 inch laptop to shame.

Finally I can have high end desktop performance on the go.
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December 5, 2013 12:51:00 AM

I once had a Desktop Replacement laptop, huge monster that required a large AC adapter, was loud and heavy. These things are NOT portable, they are heavy to lug around and completely impractical for mobility. They are for people who, for whatever reason, do not want a desktop +monitor at their house. These are just desktops that are easier to transport around.
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December 5, 2013 1:07:04 AM

This seems more for bragging rights. Sure some people will NEED this... For a portable gaming system with 3 power-bricks, etc... why not get customized AIO? Or simply brink a small (SFF) case with keyboard and 20" display which would weight less? If you're gaming anyway - you'll need a mouse. The keyboard looks crappy, the numeric keypad is up against the main keys.

Lets see, a SFF setup parts:
PC: 5 = SFF-PC, keyboard, mouse, monitor, 2 power cords.
5D: 7 = 5D Panther, Mouse, 2 power cords, 3 power bricks/converter.

In return, you get a much better keyboard... then when broken, its a $10~150 replacement...
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December 5, 2013 1:40:15 AM

It may be fast, but it sure look ugly. If i compare this notebook to a car, it will be a Mitsuoka Orochi.
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December 5, 2013 4:32:03 AM

awesome photography. i enjoyed looking at the parts.
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December 5, 2013 5:16:50 AM

Incredible. Criticisms aside, awesome to see this dedication to performance..."skinny obsession" be damned.
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December 5, 2013 5:38:35 AM

Slam it on your friends desk and start poking it with a stick " optimus, TRANSFORM!"
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December 5, 2013 6:19:49 AM

This looks like a laptop from the 80`s :) ) and at that price point you have to be really retarded to pay such a price.
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December 5, 2013 6:24:32 AM

At over 4X the cost of my desktop, this portable monster performs only marginally better. Were I to spend as much on a desktop I'd build a Xfired (290s) or SLId (780s) machine with 4K triple monitor (at least 27" per monitor) surround graphics. The form factor of "laptops" is too confining to compete on a level playing field with desktops.

Nice machine, but it is overbuilt for a laptop if you need external monitors to use its full graphics. Sure you can take it somewhere where you can hook it up to multiple monitors, but then it is no more portable than a desktop.
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December 5, 2013 6:38:47 AM

Not faster than my desktop ;) 

Anyways, nice review. It's fun to read about the stupidly high end laptops that most of us don't ever see or use in real life, just to know what's possible if you go for performance over form factor.
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December 5, 2013 6:42:29 AM

Insane.

I understand that it's "PERFORMANCE AT THE COST OF EVERYTHING ELSE" but wow.

To put this into perspective for that $6600, you could buy a fully loaded Precision M3800 quad core i7, 3200x1800 IGZO screen, 16gb ram, 512gb SSD + 1tb HDD and a Quadro k1100m that weighs 4lbs for $2600 and still have $4k left over to build a MONSTER workstation/gaming desktop

Lets go nuts. A 4k UP2414Q Ultrasharp Monitor for $1400

Core i7 4770k $300
2 x Nvidia GTX 780ti $700 each
512gb SSD
4Tb HDD

and a full build would still come out to less than 4 grand.
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a b D Laptop
December 5, 2013 7:24:49 AM

Ha! So that's what happens when you take a 1990's laptop case and fill it with modern hardware. Amazing!
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a b D Laptop
December 5, 2013 7:30:20 AM

I can only imagine possible military applications for this thing. If I had that kind of horsepower, I'd want a much larger screen than 17". The real problem I see with it is the same problem I see with pretty much all laptops. They're technological dead-ends because they cannot be upgraded. It's a cool thing to see what's possible but as Kurtwood Smith said in Star Trek VI: "Let us redefine progress to mean that just because we can do a thing, it does not necessarily mean that we must do that thing."

I think that statement is perfectly applicable to the Panther 5D.
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a b D Laptop
December 5, 2013 7:37:05 AM

This is nothing but a status symbol for those with more money than sense and I'll never believe it stays cool under load until I see it in person.
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December 5, 2013 8:13:46 AM

This just goes to prove that given enough money to spend you can get anything you want - the question is are you paying two to three times as much as you need to.
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December 5, 2013 8:27:26 AM

i checked the article to prove that it is not faster than my desktop...but it actually is :( 
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a b D Laptop
December 5, 2013 9:22:46 AM

This thing is an absolute beast of a laptop, but with 62 minutes of battery life I'm guessing that if it were a car it'd be the equivalent of a Hummer H2. :lol: 
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December 5, 2013 9:38:39 AM

The dual power adapters are super Kludgey. They might as well just make a single 600+ watt supply that looks like a nuclear reactor cooling tower.
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a b D Laptop
December 5, 2013 10:03:58 AM

Stevemeister said:
This just goes to prove that given enough money to spend you can get anything you want - the question is are you paying two to three times as much as you need to.


Sorry, but there isn't enough money in the world to change the laws of physics.

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December 5, 2013 10:24:44 AM

I like how Tom's compared this to a single card M18x R2. Try sli Tom's!
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December 5, 2013 10:53:21 AM

Sorry, where are the Bioshock Infinite benchmarks? I don't see them on page 12.
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December 5, 2013 11:22:42 AM

I see it in the back of a van, with a wide format printer, and other equipment. It's parked at an event like nascar, the super bowl, etc. The professional photographer is happily editing his/her work and printing off posters for eager fans. When the crowd dwindles, its time to shoot some aliens.

It also gets a '+1' for not forgetting about a firewire port.
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December 5, 2013 11:27:34 AM

The reason it has two supplies is because you need to plug it into two different circuits to avoid blowing the fuse.

Just imagine having a workstation version and having to call the office to report that you left it behind in a coffee shop...again.
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December 5, 2013 11:29:23 AM

>>Faster than my desktop
>>Larger than my desktop
>>Ten times as expensive as my desktop
>>Unserviceable, unlike my desktop

Keep trying, gaming laptops, keep trying.
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December 5, 2013 11:39:36 AM

rwinches said:
The reason it has two supplies is because you need to plug it into two different circuits to avoid blowing the fuse.


That's not the reason it has two supplies. It has two supplies because the unit can draw more power than a single supply can supply. It's clearly written in the article.
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December 5, 2013 11:58:09 AM

But will it blend?
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December 5, 2013 12:48:34 PM

Hello; I have the MSI and was wondering how the built in speakers of this unit compare to the MSI unit.
Thank-you
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a b D Laptop
December 5, 2013 3:43:30 PM

Nice but to a seasoned laptop user this machine isn't that nice that other people make it out to be. The first problem is that much of this machine (body) is plastic and given it's weight all that it will take to brick it is just one fall. The cooling looks good except they could have done the screw mounts differently that didn't compromise any of the fins (gpu coolers) and they should have place a single large label on the lower panel instead of small labels on the coolers. Without the plastic labels it would have likely ran a few c cooler. The most important is that this machine is not mobile, its a DTR. They should have done the lower body out of magnesium for strength or at least done what Lenovo does with it's Thinkpads with a metal chassis.

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December 5, 2013 6:27:33 PM

Anyone want to tell Tom's that the 3970x is Sandy Bridge-E, not Ivy Bridge...
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December 5, 2013 6:32:47 PM

ram1009 said:
Stevemeister said:
This just goes to prove that given enough money to spend you can get anything you want - the question is are you paying two to three times as much as you need to.


Sorry, but there isn't enough money in the world to change the laws of physics.



Taken completely out of context
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December 5, 2013 8:58:17 PM

Anyone notice that the graphics cards and the processor are both a generation out?
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December 5, 2013 10:20:04 PM

Interesting cooling design. I was surprised to hear foam space fillers would actually have a significant positive effect on fan performance. Independent laptop graphics cards still carry a heavy premium so upgrading would still be expensive, but the folks for whom this system makes sense would be exactly the people for whom that upgrade cost would make sense. That it can fit any new 2011 socket processors, and fit them within the thermal spec as well, definitely does open up CPU upgrade possibilities.

This could fit as business workhorse for rapid rendering in remote or highly mobile work settings. Imagine rendering building architecture and running modelling on a major build work site, where you're changing base every so often, up the building as the work progresses, and packing up after that particular project is complete. It could also allow professional musicians quality portable digital recording and encoding, if the input is as quality as the headphone output, at the location of any concert they happen to take it to.
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December 5, 2013 11:45:13 PM

For that price, you are better off building a higher end desktop gaming PC, and also a standard gaming laptop, and for times when you need desktop class performance, you can use some of the left over money to purchase the parts to build a push assist platform (around $60 in parts) to push your desktop system around to LAN parties when you are tired of carrying the system.
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December 6, 2013 8:58:07 AM

I enjoyed the comparison to heavy guitars in terms of size and tone. The target market for this machine is a solid body crowd, favoring beefy tone and chunk. If you think this machine is overkill then you sit squarely in the less is more camp with Tele's, SG's and hollow bodies. All have an application. Content creation, or productivity to jazz/blues or hard rock.
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a b D Laptop
December 6, 2013 10:40:38 AM

derekullo said:
But will it blend?


Good question! :lol: 
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December 6, 2013 12:19:11 PM

All the beef and it's still a compact keyboard layout? :(  That up arrow key is all where shift should be. My old Dell Inspiron 1720 had a nice keyboard layout and I miss it. Damned lightning fried it.
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December 6, 2013 8:45:11 PM

I bought the shark from them, 3 motherboard failures later now almost a month and I still don't have my laptop back. there warranty sucks and its hard to get a hold of customer support....Must say though, there sales guys are great! if only they had better customer support and a better warranty.( They all ways fix my laptop just not very fast, and after 3 motherboards they should have replaced the laptop)
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December 6, 2013 11:11:38 PM

Great machines... all 3 pieces that Eurocom is going to sell. This is an extremely niche system.
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December 6, 2013 11:22:16 PM

Nope, not faster then my desktop.
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December 7, 2013 7:11:08 AM

It's pretty overkill in my opinion. With over 6K to burn, I'd rather spend it on powerful 3k desktop and save the leftover money for any upgrades. I'm honestly not a fan of the term "Future-proofing" so I hope you guys will understand.
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December 7, 2013 7:51:12 AM

I can see the reason to buy this laptop, although it will not be a mass producted device
For example your job requires a powerfull workstation, but you are moving around quickly ( for example you are working with Sony in Europe and you must fly to Japan every once a while). The fact, that it is a workstation ( it is designed to be one) means that it will earn money for the person. For example a lorry is much more expensive, then a car, but because they are used to make money, its justified.
I reckon the reason why it has non workstation GPUs is to try to boost up the sales a little bit
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December 7, 2013 10:21:06 AM

This thing is huge though, for something thats supposed to be "Mobile" I wouldn't like to carry this beast around all day.
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December 7, 2013 2:10:50 PM

This is a total waste of money. Laptops are meant to be portable and durable without a charger. I'll rather build a small size desktop PC and carry it around with a monitor.
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December 8, 2013 1:38:05 AM

why does everyone expect from a laptop workstation to be that easy to handle like a 11 inch Mac Air, while it can work as a powerful workstation as well?
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