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Discussion regarding Colorado legalizing recreational use of marijuana Jan 1

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December 30, 2013 5:59:26 AM

Hopefully more States will pass similar laws.

The whole "war on drugs" is a complete waste of money...
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December 30, 2013 11:50:11 PM

Wahsington is getting ready as well.

Just got the WSLCB to issue all licenses and now awaiting for stores to show up.

This should be interesting.
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December 31, 2013 8:41:51 PM

The reason they has the Liquor Control Board run the program was to keep things simple without having to spend money on a new agency. You know, just train the current guys on pot rules and have them enfocre it. Saves tax payers $$$.
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December 31, 2013 8:54:19 PM

Ahh, the good old days - a 'head' shop on every corner:)  Rather sell the shovels than be the miner, more profit in it. All joking aside, has anyone found out what the prices are going to be for this "legal" high?

In WA, as soon as the state got out of the liqour business an additional "happy hour" tax was added to every bottle going out the door.
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December 31, 2013 9:19:27 PM

Good news.. hope more countries and states will do the same.
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December 31, 2013 9:32:15 PM

Damory said:
Ahh, the good old days - a 'head' shop on every corner:)  Rather sell the shovels than be the miner, more profit in it. All joking aside, has anyone found out what the prices are going to be for this "legal" high?

In WA, as soon as the state got out of the liqour business an additional "happy hour" tax was added to every bottle going out the door.

Yeah, the liquor intitiative was completlety idiotic. Costco is paying it through the azz though. Guess they should have let the state keep its monoploy. It will get its money some way or another. Oregon, on the other hand, is rolling in the dough.
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January 1, 2014 1:49:43 AM

Please keep in mind that though as of today it is legal in Colorado but not in the rest of the US so stay on the topic of the truth of it's legality location so the thread can stay open. Thank You! Ry
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January 2, 2014 3:22:31 AM

Our boss just got back from Colorado ... he is from the conservative "South" and states that the Liberals in Boulder won this trial which is being watched carefully by other states.

I am not for legalising drugs ... I don't want to be run over by some hippy at 35 miles per hour busy changing his Bob Dylan 8 track cartridge and watching the pretty lights on the disco ball in the cabin at the same time ... and not watching for pedestians.
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January 2, 2014 3:54:57 AM

Bob Dylan 8 track cartridge :lol: 

Now that brings back memories! :) 

A lot of the younger generation won't even know what you're talking about. :lol: 
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January 2, 2014 4:33:00 AM

Pop the popcorn, and let's sit back and see what happens, this will either be great for Colorado, USA, or a disaster, time will tell!

Every state is watching what happens in this legalization step, will it boost the states economy, (more than likely yes, since visitors from other states can participate as long as it stays in Colorado), will it bring more crime, will it cut crime, is it good or bad!
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January 2, 2014 4:38:02 AM

For those interested here's your Colorado Disco Ball dealership! :lol: 

http://www.funservicescolorado.com/lighting.htm

First off I neither drink nor do drugs, except of course prescription medication for diabetes control, but my opinion regarding the legalization of marijuana is why did it take so long to do, this is 2014 and just like prohibition, license it, tax it, and let the states make money off of it, instead of loosing money, and the taxpayers paying to keep people in jail that shouldn't even be there.

So Colorado legalizing it will put more control over it, however problems will still arise regarding those under the legal age of 21!

That is something Colorado will be dealing with!

So as far as the law is concerned, I don't have a problem with it, it boils down to a persons right, and the old mystics and wives tales surrounding marijuana craziness, is just plain ludicrous scare tactics.
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January 2, 2014 9:53:52 AM

If I was ever allowed into power I would likely ban alcohol, smoking and recreational drugs (except caffeine) with the death penalty.

Be an awesome dictator.

Revolution in 30 days or your money back ;) .
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January 2, 2014 11:25:24 AM

amdfangirl said:
If I was ever allowed into power I would likely ban alcohol, smoking and recreational drugs (except caffeine) with the death penalty.

Be an awesome dictator.

Revolution in 30 days or your money back ;) .


Not really. You owuld just get comfy with the local mob who would provide the 'goodies' to the 'public'. I hear they allow card counters at their blackjack tables... ;) 
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January 2, 2014 4:48:22 PM

4Ryan6 said:
Never thought I'd see this happen in my lifetime, but maybe it's a good thing as it has had more blame laid against it than it should have, so now Colorado can discover if it's a good call or bad.

What do you think?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/12/30/legal-pot-colorado/4246799/
I think it is a bad concept because this leads to harder drugs as I can vouch for this myself years ago from pot to crack.This is poison you are putting in your system!
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January 2, 2014 10:48:31 PM

Technically speaking, THC has a very limited effect on tolerance in the human endocrine system.

Alcohol, a well-known and consumed schedule 4 narcotic, has much more harmful effects.

However, there has been some studies,( can't find it), that THC may increase LDL levels in your blood.
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January 3, 2014 12:21:41 PM

Marv as a longtime Pot user I challenge that claim. If Pot is a gateway drug, then booze is the gateway to pot, and caffeine is the gateway to booze.

Dont do crack FFS, but don't sweep everything under the same carpet. You can get drugs prescribed to you from a doctor that are far worse than crack or pot.
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January 3, 2014 12:40:49 PM

Morphine. Hydrocodone, Oxycotin, Beozodiazepine.

'Nuf said.
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January 3, 2014 4:32:18 PM

Praise_Gaben said:
Good news.. hope more countries and states will do the same.
Pathetic indeed to think like this. Read the wonderful ingredients pot has and than see if you want to smoke this crap or not.
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January 3, 2014 11:06:58 PM

I heard it is better in brownies.

You know, it's just hear-say.
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January 3, 2014 11:07:38 PM

musical marv said:
Praise_Gaben said:
Good news.. hope more countries and states will do the same.
Pathetic indeed to think like this. Read the wonderful ingredients pot has and than see if you want to smoke this crap or not.


Don't knock it 'til you try it, marv!

:) 
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January 4, 2014 5:20:15 AM

Sorry guys but I am with marv ... all drugs are bad ... unless the good Dr prescribes them.

I have seen plenty of lives messed up, and as a shrink had to help others get back out of the toilet.

Have a chocolate sundae instead ... or a cola and some BBQ shapes ... or a slush puppy ... or some nuts !!!

:) 
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January 4, 2014 5:48:51 AM

I don't think any of us are planning a move to Colorado so why don't we keep this on the results of what's actually legally happening there!

Try to stay on topic for once guys.

Personal opinions cross boundaries of what's legal to even talk about here at THGF, so keep it on Colorado's legalizing it, that's 100% factual news, mentioning other illegal drugs crosses lines, as Colorado has only legalized Marijuana!

Lets see what happens in Colorado with it's legalization of the Recreational sale of Marijuana, and not mentioning every other illegal drug on the planet!

This is one thread that definitely will end up closed if it does not stay on topic!



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January 4, 2014 11:29:16 AM

The prices are very high as well.
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January 4, 2014 11:38:40 AM

Currently living in Colorado. It's a definite science experiment over here at the moment. Currently the despenseries are selling Pot for 2-3x street prices, and people are paying out the nose premiums for the experience. As for the societal implications down here, I would say they are pretty minimal, yes every public event now smells like pot, the bar smoking sections outside are also a place to find these new herbal cigs, but nothing else has really changed on that front.
As for the taxes the new Ammendment 64 is bringing in: There are a TON of schools in DPS, LPS, etc planning for massive renovation projects. Given that a large percentage of the tax money goes to these educational establishments, they finally have the money to step up to the plate and deliver a quality education, hire new qualified teachers etc...
What remains to be seen is the impact on reported alcoholism, underage smoking (pot cigs), Pot related automobile accidents, and if there will be a reduction in alcohol related auto accidents because people are getting high instead.

As for everyone's worries about stoned drivers on the road, your Pizza Hut delivery driver makes it to your house every time you order right? Yes people will be stoned and on the road, however this is nowhere near the level of imparement that other drugs and alcohol brings to the table.
In fact that courteous driver who let you on the freeway earlier today was probably high on LSD, and that pizza delivery? Welll let's just say that Pizza grease is a great mask for Pot Smell... Just my 2 Cents...
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January 5, 2014 6:26:56 AM

Thats rather interesting, may I as how much does it cost per gram there?
regarding the young posession, I am not sure why the numbers are higher,maybe more people actually look for it?
Any information? here in Europe it is only legal in Holland, and I am rather interested how successfull will it be there
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January 5, 2014 6:33:10 PM

dogman_1234 said:
Technically speaking, THC has a very limited effect on tolerance in the human endocrine system.

Alcohol, a well-known and consumed schedule 4 narcotic, has much more harmful effects.

However, there has been some studies,( can't find it), that THC may increase LDL levels in your blood.
You are wrong pot has much more dangerous ingredients than alcohol. Ask any doctor that.
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January 5, 2014 9:31:09 PM

Sorry Marv, but you're loosing this argument. Did you know or realize that the level of THC in most brands of prescription medications for ashtma are higher than marijuana, street wise or state issued? As for marijuana causing someone to move to harder drugs? Really. Like anything else, it's a choice.

And for those whimpering about kids using...have you taken a look at who the street dealers are selling oxy, ecstasy and weed to lately? Believe me, it isn't the average 21+ year old.

We can't keep the blinders on people. If there's a will, there's a way. To be quite honest, I'd rather be on the freeway with Harry Hippy going 25 miles an hour because he's high on weed and paranoid than behind Leadfoot Larry going 80 high on meth or oxy thinking he's invincible.
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January 5, 2014 10:22:02 PM

musical marv said:
dogman_1234 said:
Technically speaking, THC has a very limited effect on tolerance in the human endocrine system.

Alcohol, a well-known and consumed schedule 4 narcotic, has much more harmful effects.

However, there has been some studies,( can't find it), that THC may increase LDL levels in your blood.
You are wrong pot has much more dangerous ingredients than alcohol. Ask any doctor that.

You sound like those who championed the Temprance movement, which gave us prohibition, which; in turn, gave us an increase in organized crime. This led to an increase in the sales of harder chemical substances after alcohol was legalized.

Joe Bannana would be laughing at you right now.

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January 6, 2014 12:02:49 AM

Here's a thought to the mod team, instead of closing the thread, why not do your jobs as moderators and take action on the individuals that cause the problems in these type threads. :) 


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January 6, 2014 2:30:43 AM

May I have some question regarding that?
How does it look like there?
There are weed shops? how much is a gram? can you give me more info please? like real life situations
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January 6, 2014 2:55:05 AM

Nefos said:
May I have some question regarding that?
How does it look like there?
There are weed shops? how much is a gram? can you give me more info please? like real life situations


Google is your friend.

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January 6, 2014 3:09:15 AM

I know, but I am looking for personal impression from Toms forum, as people with similar interest tend to like/dislike same thing, and I am not looking for a Hippys review, you know
I hope I am clear, I am looking for YOU impression, not for others
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January 6, 2014 4:42:48 AM

Nefos said:
I know, but I am looking for personal impression from Toms forum, as people with similar interest tend to like/dislike same thing, and I am not looking for a Hippys review, you know
I hope I am clear, I am looking for YOU impression, not for others


I understand that, but you need to realize this thread is on the fenceline of what is, and is not allowed, to discuss here at THF, so I seriously scrutinize the links I provide here, before actually doing it.

As an ex-moderator I know the rules, and do not want to step into territory I know full well should be discovered personally, so that's why I suggested Google, I am not trying to be offensive here.

That's also why I keep popping in with reminders to stay on Colorado where it's legally sold now, and stay away from discussing other illegal drugs.

I did find a price link, but there were other things on that same link I am not posting here.

You may find a clean link yourself and post it, right now I'm kinda too busy to mess with it, sorry.

I hope you understand. Ry

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January 6, 2014 4:47:03 AM

ohh okay, yeah, sorry, I thought it is legal to talk specifically Colorado here, but I understand it, and I respect it! thank you for the answer :) 
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January 6, 2014 5:37:24 AM

Ry many thanks for the polite reminder ... and your point is spot on.
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January 6, 2014 4:35:08 PM

wanamingo said:
Marv as a longtime Pot user I challenge that claim. If Pot is a gateway drug, then booze is the gateway to pot, and caffeine is the gateway to booze.

Dont do crack FFS, but don't sweep everything under the same carpet. You can get drugs prescribed to you from a doctor that are far worse than crack or pot.
I had friends years ago who were on pot and than graduated to speed and even they started to mainline the bigH.
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January 7, 2014 2:10:31 AM

Oldmangamer_73 said:
The prices will probably come down over time, just like they did with flat screen TVs.


ROFL :lol: 

OMG! I almost sprayed coffee all over my monitor when I read that! :lol: 

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January 8, 2014 6:38:36 AM

MJ is no more of a gateway drug than alcohol. By NOT being legal made it easier for minors to get and having to deal with the illegal hoodlum types. Saying it leads to harder drugs is silly. In Sweden where it's legal less youths use it compared to Germany's youths where it is illegal.
The attraction is being something illegal or bad.
Colorado will see some jackass do something stupid and his attorney will use the " he was high on pot" defense or some other crap. This will make national news and be nothing more than a fart in the wind over this debate of it's use. I am appalled at users now using butane to get the "wax" to make it even more concentrated...FRIGGEN IDIOTS!!!Those are ones with addictive personalities than need help and why it should be legal so the gov't can regulate and educate people. The illegal money needs to stop leaving this country by the truck load. Keep the cash in the US of A.

If you used pot then went to harder drugs then you have an addictive personality. If there was no pot you would have been doing something else to start up on. END OF STORY!

Personally I have not smoked pot in 20+ years and if they legalized in Florida I know I wouldn't try it. I'm drug and alcohol free by choice...MY FREEDOM AND MY CHOICE!!!
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January 8, 2014 4:37:37 PM

dogman_1234 said:
musical marv said:
Praise_Gaben said:
Good news.. hope more countries and states will do the same.
Pathetic indeed to think like this. Read the wonderful ingredients pot has and than see if you want to smoke this crap or not.


Don't knock it 'til you try it, marv!

:) 
I tried this garbage years ago and it gave me exactly a zero high. This is sheer crap to put in your system.

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January 8, 2014 6:28:24 PM

I run by the principle of not trying vices so you never know what they taste like.

I might be the only 19 year old who hasn't drunk an alcoholic beverage. :p 
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January 9, 2014 2:07:02 AM

amdfangirl said:
I run by the principle of not trying vices so you never know what they taste like.

I might be the only 19 year old who hasn't drunk an alcoholic beverage. :p 


That is very impressive, relating to the world overall!

Congratulations! :) 

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January 9, 2014 2:51:03 AM

amdfangirl said:
I run by the principle of not trying vices so you never know what they taste like.

I might be the only 19 year old who hasn't drank an alcoholic beverage. :p 


*doggie slowly raises hand*
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January 9, 2014 5:28:43 AM

Benevolence said:
Currently living in Colorado. It's a definite science experiment over here at the moment.

As part of that experiment, is it true that folks will be able to use their EBT cards to purchase weed from the legal dispenaries?

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January 16, 2014 9:37:52 AM

chunkymonster said:
Benevolence said:
Currently living in Colorado. It's a definite science experiment over here at the moment.

As part of that experiment, is it true that folks will be able to use their EBT cards to purchase weed from the legal dispenaries?


If using your EBT card can buy you booze then why not?
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January 17, 2014 5:35:13 AM

Oldmangamer_73 said:
Beachnative said:
chunkymonster said:
Benevolence said:
Currently living in Colorado. It's a definite science experiment over here at the moment.

As part of that experiment, is it true that folks will be able to use their EBT cards to purchase weed from the legal dispenaries?


If using your EBT card can buy you booze then why not?


Wait, you can use an EBT card to buy booze? I thought that was just myth?

Don't forget manicures, tattoos, guns, porn, body piercings, jewelry, and bail...

Bail?!?! WTF!
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