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Tesla_Whizz
April 24, 2014 5:46:18 AM
Hey guys
I would appreciate if you guys can check my pc build. Give me some tips on whether my specs are good or if I can get any better ones. All I ask is a few minutes of your time. Any advice or critique is welcome
Here's the link.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2117467/build-wo...
Thanks
I would appreciate if you guys can check my pc build. Give me some tips on whether my specs are good or if I can get any better ones. All I ask is a few minutes of your time. Any advice or critique is welcome
Here's the link.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2117467/build-wo...
Thanks
Mousemonkey said:
mr91 said:
Mousemonkey said:
mr91 said:
Thank you!
It must be a challenging to pack over 7 billion transistors into 16 or 10 nm piece of silicon lol
You're welcome, I think I know what you mean but just to be clear, the nm number refers to the gaps between the transistors and their 'firing ends' not the silicon's overall size.
lol Makes sense, I need to be careful not to confuse people with sloppy posts...
I was referring to improved density due to the process that allows companies to shrink the die.
Your explanation is more precise.
No worries mate, I thought that was what you might have been referring to but as I have actually spoken to folk who thought the GPU itself was 28nm I thought I'd better check.
azzazel_99 said:
Upping the res scale in bf4 though makes the image quality so realistic. Although at 200% res scale its rendering the image more times than it does at 100%. Just makes it look so read. If I turn it back down too the normal 100% I stay over 144fps dunno how much past that cause I have my fps locked at 144fps.Sounds good! What were your frame rates in bf4 with a single 780 ti classified @ 1080p with a 100 resolution scale?
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Mahisse said:
lol. Sounds like a fucking beast.
Too bad it's $3000! I was dreaming of building a system with a Micro ATX X99 Rog motherboard with an 8 core CPU overclocked & then putting in a Titan Z.
" I'm aware that the hardware mentioned didn't come out yet"
Aphala
April 25, 2014 6:41:37 PM
I know the Titan series graphic cards are designed for the Pro-consumer and good for Scientific computing because of the Dual precision compute power that is enabled...
I would prefer to have the Titan Z over 2x 780 ti's
#1 because I want to build a small micro atx system
#2 I have a 1440p monitor and when SSAA or Resolution scaling in bf4 which I believe is the same, I exceed the 3gb memory buffer provided.
" Even Titanfall uses the entire 3 GB of Vram with 8x MSAA @ 1440p"
3# Nvidia Claims the scaling will be better and at $3000 I believe them lol
"apparently there is less latency when 2 gpu's are on one card vs SLI and I'm sure NVidia will use other engineering techniques to maximize performance"
4# Nvidia will probably cherry pick the gpu's with high ASIC's and deliver a premium product that will overclock well.
5# I don't have a separate circuit for my computer because my computer is located on the 3rd floor of my house so decreased power consumption vs. the sli option would be ideal for me.
I'm sure the Titan Z is a great card for a gamer however @ $3000 it's certainly not for everybody including me lol
I have a Asus 780 ti and it's a great card for 1440p and uses a fully enabled Kepler chip that provides a superb gaming experience on its own however 2 of them or a Titan Z would definitely be the icing and cherry on top of the cake lol
I would prefer to have the Titan Z over 2x 780 ti's
#1 because I want to build a small micro atx system
#2 I have a 1440p monitor and when SSAA or Resolution scaling in bf4 which I believe is the same, I exceed the 3gb memory buffer provided.
" Even Titanfall uses the entire 3 GB of Vram with 8x MSAA @ 1440p"
3# Nvidia Claims the scaling will be better and at $3000 I believe them lol
"apparently there is less latency when 2 gpu's are on one card vs SLI and I'm sure NVidia will use other engineering techniques to maximize performance"
4# Nvidia will probably cherry pick the gpu's with high ASIC's and deliver a premium product that will overclock well.
5# I don't have a separate circuit for my computer because my computer is located on the 3rd floor of my house so decreased power consumption vs. the sli option would be ideal for me.
I'm sure the Titan Z is a great card for a gamer however @ $3000 it's certainly not for everybody including me lol
I have a Asus 780 ti and it's a great card for 1440p and uses a fully enabled Kepler chip that provides a superb gaming experience on its own however 2 of them or a Titan Z would definitely be the icing and cherry on top of the cake lol
mr91 said:
I heard the 20 nm gtx 880 might be delayed until late 2014, this makes sense because of the die shrink and complex architecture.I also heard a rumour that AMD will start selling their next gen 20 nm cards in early 2015.
I believe the gtx 780 ti is a response to the 290x because Nvidia will always do what it can to keep the performance Lead.
I just upgraded from a gtx 780 to a 780 ti and in 1440p the TI blows the 780 out of the water...
Agreed, went from 780 to ti and love the difference. I had a 780 for about 2 weeks until I saw a sale on the ti and exchanged/upgraded. I have no idea if NVidia is going to replace their 760, 770 or 780 next but I don't think ti is next on the chopping block. I think they are going to announce in 3-6 months a 880 which will have 780ti like performance maybe a hair slower for a 780 like price and maybe a 870 that will give a 780 like performance for maybe $100 more than a 770 so they can keep their current 780/ti cards the same price.
Aphala
April 26, 2014 2:36:02 PM
mr91 said:
I know the Titan series graphic cards are designed for the Pro-consumer and good for Scientific computing because of the Dual precision compute power that is enabled...I would prefer to have the Titan Z over 2x 780 ti's
#1 because I want to build a small micro atx system
#2 I have a 1440p monitor and when SSAA or Resolution scaling in bf4 which I believe is the same, I exceed the 3gb memory buffer provided.
" Even Titanfall uses the entire 3 GB of Vram with 8x MSAA @ 1440p"
3# Nvidia Claims the scaling will be better and at $3000 I believe them lol
"apparently there is less latency when 2 gpu's are on one card vs SLI and I'm sure NVidia will use other engineering techniques to maximize performance"
4# Nvidia will probably cherry pick the gpu's with high ASIC's and deliver a premium product that will overclock well.
5# I don't have a separate circuit for my computer because my computer is located on the 3rd floor of my house so decreased power consumption vs. the sli option would be ideal for me.
I'm sure the Titan Z is a great card for a gamer however @ $3000 it's certainly not for everybody including me lol
I have a Asus 780 ti and it's a great card for 1440p and uses a fully enabled Kepler chip that provides a superb gaming experience on its own however 2 of them or a Titan Z would definitely be the icing and cherry on top of the cake lol
One Sentence, R9 295X2 lol 1/2 price and pretty much the best card out there. But @ 1440p 780ti will do fine you would be wasting money if you were going to buy a titan.
BF4 @ 4K - 125fps...125!! @ 4K! that's pretty much ensured later gens can be just as powerful @ 1/2 of the price (I assume so).
Edit: I mean 2 R9 295X2's
Aphala said:
mr91 said:
I know the Titan series graphic cards are designed for the Pro-consumer and good for Scientific computing because of the Dual precision compute power that is enabled...I would prefer to have the Titan Z over 2x 780 ti's
#1 because I want to build a small micro atx system
#2 I have a 1440p monitor and when SSAA or Resolution scaling in bf4 which I believe is the same, I exceed the 3gb memory buffer provided.
" Even Titanfall uses the entire 3 GB of Vram with 8x MSAA @ 1440p"
3# Nvidia Claims the scaling will be better and at $3000 I believe them lol
"apparently there is less latency when 2 gpu's are on one card vs SLI and I'm sure NVidia will use other engineering techniques to maximize performance"
4# Nvidia will probably cherry pick the gpu's with high ASIC's and deliver a premium product that will overclock well.
5# I don't have a separate circuit for my computer because my computer is located on the 3rd floor of my house so decreased power consumption vs. the sli option would be ideal for me.
I'm sure the Titan Z is a great card for a gamer however @ $3000 it's certainly not for everybody including me lol
I have a Asus 780 ti and it's a great card for 1440p and uses a fully enabled Kepler chip that provides a superb gaming experience on its own however 2 of them or a Titan Z would definitely be the icing and cherry on top of the cake lol
One Sentence, R9 295X2 lol 1/2 price and pretty much the best card out there. But @ 1440p 780ti will do fine you would be wasting money if you were going to buy a titan.
BF4 @ 4K - 125fps...125!! @ 4K! that's pretty much ensured later gens can be just as powerful @ 1/2 of the price (I assume so).
Edit: I mean 2 R9 295X2's
We need to wait until both cards are available before we jump to conclusions...
Where did you get " BF4 @ 4K - 125fps...125!!"
( Read Toms hardware review below)
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r9-295x2-rev...
I don't think this would be a good option for a micro atx because of the size and the fan that needs to be mounted for the closed loop water cooling.
In my opinion the AMD card looks good however I would still prefer Titan black SLI or a Titan Z in my system.
Aphala
April 27, 2014 6:49:50 AM
mr91 said:
Aphala said:
mr91 said:
I know the Titan series graphic cards are designed for the Pro-consumer and good for Scientific computing because of the Dual precision compute power that is enabled...I would prefer to have the Titan Z over 2x 780 ti's
#1 because I want to build a small micro atx system
#2 I have a 1440p monitor and when SSAA or Resolution scaling in bf4 which I believe is the same, I exceed the 3gb memory buffer provided.
" Even Titanfall uses the entire 3 GB of Vram with 8x MSAA @ 1440p"
3# Nvidia Claims the scaling will be better and at $3000 I believe them lol
"apparently there is less latency when 2 gpu's are on one card vs SLI and I'm sure NVidia will use other engineering techniques to maximize performance"
4# Nvidia will probably cherry pick the gpu's with high ASIC's and deliver a premium product that will overclock well.
5# I don't have a separate circuit for my computer because my computer is located on the 3rd floor of my house so decreased power consumption vs. the sli option would be ideal for me.
I'm sure the Titan Z is a great card for a gamer however @ $3000 it's certainly not for everybody including me lol
I have a Asus 780 ti and it's a great card for 1440p and uses a fully enabled Kepler chip that provides a superb gaming experience on its own however 2 of them or a Titan Z would definitely be the icing and cherry on top of the cake lol
One Sentence, R9 295X2 lol 1/2 price and pretty much the best card out there. But @ 1440p 780ti will do fine you would be wasting money if you were going to buy a titan.
BF4 @ 4K - 125fps...125!! @ 4K! that's pretty much ensured later gens can be just as powerful @ 1/2 of the price (I assume so).
Edit: I mean 2 R9 295X2's
We need to wait until both cards are available before we jump to conclusions...
Where did you get " BF4 @ 4K - 125fps...125!!"
( Read Toms hardware review below)
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r9-295x2-rev...
I don't think this would be a good option for a micro atx because of the size and the fan that needs to be mounted for the closed loop water cooling.
In my opinion the AMD card looks good however I would still prefer Titan black SLI or a Titan Z in my system.
I understand but you literally are wasting money on a workstation tier card when you could get an r9 290x or 780ti?
I guess if you can afford it, makes sense.
Aphala said:
mr91 said:
Aphala said:
mr91 said:
I know the Titan series graphic cards are designed for the Pro-consumer and good for Scientific computing because of the Dual precision compute power that is enabled...I would prefer to have the Titan Z over 2x 780 ti's
#1 because I want to build a small micro atx system
#2 I have a 1440p monitor and when SSAA or Resolution scaling in bf4 which I believe is the same, I exceed the 3gb memory buffer provided.
" Even Titanfall uses the entire 3 GB of Vram with 8x MSAA @ 1440p"
3# Nvidia Claims the scaling will be better and at $3000 I believe them lol
"apparently there is less latency when 2 gpu's are on one card vs SLI and I'm sure NVidia will use other engineering techniques to maximize performance"
4# Nvidia will probably cherry pick the gpu's with high ASIC's and deliver a premium product that will overclock well.
5# I don't have a separate circuit for my computer because my computer is located on the 3rd floor of my house so decreased power consumption vs. the sli option would be ideal for me.
I'm sure the Titan Z is a great card for a gamer however @ $3000 it's certainly not for everybody including me lol
I have a Asus 780 ti and it's a great card for 1440p and uses a fully enabled Kepler chip that provides a superb gaming experience on its own however 2 of them or a Titan Z would definitely be the icing and cherry on top of the cake lol
One Sentence, R9 295X2 lol 1/2 price and pretty much the best card out there. But @ 1440p 780ti will do fine you would be wasting money if you were going to buy a titan.
BF4 @ 4K - 125fps...125!! @ 4K! that's pretty much ensured later gens can be just as powerful @ 1/2 of the price (I assume so).
Edit: I mean 2 R9 295X2's
We need to wait until both cards are available before we jump to conclusions...
Where did you get " BF4 @ 4K - 125fps...125!!"
( Read Toms hardware review below)
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r9-295x2-rev...
I don't think this would be a good option for a micro atx because of the size and the fan that needs to be mounted for the closed loop water cooling.
In my opinion the AMD card looks good however I would still prefer Titan black SLI or a Titan Z in my system.
I understand but you literally are wasting money on a workstation tier card when you could get an r9 290x or 780ti?
I guess if you can afford it, makes sense.
I'm happy with my Asus 780 ti and probably will not be upgrading until Big Maxwell comes out however I appreciate the Titan Z.
I certainly don't need the Dual precision compute however the extra VRAM is needed for 1440p using extreme Anti Aliasing technologies such as SSAA.
I'm not planning on spending $3000 on a graphics card any time soon lol
I wouldn't be surprised if Nvidia releases Non Titan Dual GPU card in the future under $2000 which would make more sense for Gamers...
Aphala
April 27, 2014 10:46:26 AM
mr91 said:
Aphala said:
mr91 said:
Aphala said:
mr91 said:
I know the Titan series graphic cards are designed for the Pro-consumer and good for Scientific computing because of the Dual precision compute power that is enabled...I would prefer to have the Titan Z over 2x 780 ti's
#1 because I want to build a small micro atx system
#2 I have a 1440p monitor and when SSAA or Resolution scaling in bf4 which I believe is the same, I exceed the 3gb memory buffer provided.
" Even Titanfall uses the entire 3 GB of Vram with 8x MSAA @ 1440p"
3# Nvidia Claims the scaling will be better and at $3000 I believe them lol
"apparently there is less latency when 2 gpu's are on one card vs SLI and I'm sure NVidia will use other engineering techniques to maximize performance"
4# Nvidia will probably cherry pick the gpu's with high ASIC's and deliver a premium product that will overclock well.
5# I don't have a separate circuit for my computer because my computer is located on the 3rd floor of my house so decreased power consumption vs. the sli option would be ideal for me.
I'm sure the Titan Z is a great card for a gamer however @ $3000 it's certainly not for everybody including me lol
I have a Asus 780 ti and it's a great card for 1440p and uses a fully enabled Kepler chip that provides a superb gaming experience on its own however 2 of them or a Titan Z would definitely be the icing and cherry on top of the cake lol
One Sentence, R9 295X2 lol 1/2 price and pretty much the best card out there. But @ 1440p 780ti will do fine you would be wasting money if you were going to buy a titan.
BF4 @ 4K - 125fps...125!! @ 4K! that's pretty much ensured later gens can be just as powerful @ 1/2 of the price (I assume so).
Edit: I mean 2 R9 295X2's
We need to wait until both cards are available before we jump to conclusions...
Where did you get " BF4 @ 4K - 125fps...125!!"
( Read Toms hardware review below)
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r9-295x2-rev...
I don't think this would be a good option for a micro atx because of the size and the fan that needs to be mounted for the closed loop water cooling.
In my opinion the AMD card looks good however I would still prefer Titan black SLI or a Titan Z in my system.
I understand but you literally are wasting money on a workstation tier card when you could get an r9 290x or 780ti?
I guess if you can afford it, makes sense.
I'm happy with my Asus 780 ti and probably will not be upgrading until Big Maxwell comes out however I appreciate the Titan Z.
I certainly don't need the Dual precision compute however the extra VRAM is needed for 1440p using extreme Anti Aliasing technologies such as SSAA.
I'm not planning on spending $3000 on a graphics card any time soon lol
I wouldn't be surprised if Nvidia releases Non Titan Dual GPU card in the future under $2000 which would make more sense for Gamers...
Yeah, it's like the assume every PC gamer has £/$3000 almost every year to spend on a GPU!
I guess those born into wealth or have pretty good luck/jobs can.
ATI 6970 MASTER RACE! xD 4K, ALL DAY!
mr91 said:
Aphala said:
mr91 said:
Aphala said:
mr91 said:
I know the Titan series graphic cards are designed for the Pro-consumer and good for Scientific computing because of the Dual precision compute power that is enabled...I would prefer to have the Titan Z over 2x 780 ti's
#1 because I want to build a small micro atx system
#2 I have a 1440p monitor and when SSAA or Resolution scaling in bf4 which I believe is the same, I exceed the 3gb memory buffer provided.
" Even Titanfall uses the entire 3 GB of Vram with 8x MSAA @ 1440p"
3# Nvidia Claims the scaling will be better and at $3000 I believe them lol
"apparently there is less latency when 2 gpu's are on one card vs SLI and I'm sure NVidia will use other engineering techniques to maximize performance"
4# Nvidia will probably cherry pick the gpu's with high ASIC's and deliver a premium product that will overclock well.
5# I don't have a separate circuit for my computer because my computer is located on the 3rd floor of my house so decreased power consumption vs. the sli option would be ideal for me.
I'm sure the Titan Z is a great card for a gamer however @ $3000 it's certainly not for everybody including me lol
I have a Asus 780 ti and it's a great card for 1440p and uses a fully enabled Kepler chip that provides a superb gaming experience on its own however 2 of them or a Titan Z would definitely be the icing and cherry on top of the cake lol
One Sentence, R9 295X2 lol 1/2 price and pretty much the best card out there. But @ 1440p 780ti will do fine you would be wasting money if you were going to buy a titan.
BF4 @ 4K - 125fps...125!! @ 4K! that's pretty much ensured later gens can be just as powerful @ 1/2 of the price (I assume so).
Edit: I mean 2 R9 295X2's
We need to wait until both cards are available before we jump to conclusions...
Where did you get " BF4 @ 4K - 125fps...125!!"
( Read Toms hardware review below)
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r9-295x2-rev...
I don't think this would be a good option for a micro atx because of the size and the fan that needs to be mounted for the closed loop water cooling.
In my opinion the AMD card looks good however I would still prefer Titan black SLI or a Titan Z in my system.
I understand but you literally are wasting money on a workstation tier card when you could get an r9 290x or 780ti?
I guess if you can afford it, makes sense.
I'm happy with my Asus 780 ti and probably will not be upgrading until Big Maxwell comes out however I appreciate the Titan Z.
I certainly don't need the Dual precision compute however the extra VRAM is needed for 1440p using extreme Anti Aliasing technologies such as SSAA.
I'm not planning on spending $3000 on a graphics card any time soon lol
I wouldn't be surprised if Nvidia releases Non Titan Dual GPU card in the future under $2000 which would make more sense for Gamers...
just get two 780Ti 6GB . EVGA will make one soon
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So, back to the EVGA GeForce GTX 780 6GB video card models. These new cards will be available soon at a starting MSRP of $549.99. That is pretty amazing considering the GeForce GTX Titan was $999.99 and the base EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB card was available for $519.99. You are basically getting a GeForce GTX Titan without the enhanced double-precision performance for a fraction of the cost. It gets better though! EVGA has told Legit Reviews that a GTX 780 Ti 6GB card is in the works. http://www.legitreviews.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-780-card...
I just dont see where 6gb is gonna be needed. I mean even at 4k the 3gb 780ti was able to hold 30fps or more is several games. I guess if you are interested in getting in on the ground floor of 4k gaming go for it but I'd rather wait till 4k is mainstream and we have single gpu cards capable of hitting at least 60fps at 4k. Not to mention the price right now. We are stilk several years away from that. Maybe when nvidias 9xx series or whatever comes out we will be good to go.
azzazel_99 said:
I just dont see where 6gb is gonna be needed. I mean even at 4k the 3gb 780ti was able to hold 30fps or more is several games. I guess if you are interested in getting in on the ground floor of 4k gaming go for it but I'd rather wait till 4k is mainstream and we have single gpu cards capable of hitting at least 60fps at 4k. Not to mention the price right now. We are stilk several years away from that. Maybe when nvidias 9xx series or whatever comes out we will be good to go.You have a 1080p monitor and that's why your 780 ti sli set up is perfect because even if you increase your resolution scaling to 200% in battlefield 4 you will not use all of your VRAM however if I was to set my scaling to 200% I would run out of vram and everything would be slow motion on my single 780 ti.
If I had 2 Titan blacks, I would be able to enable 200 resolution scaling because I wouldn't run out of VRAM.
Lack of Vram limits performance for some games, Titanfall uses all my VRAM when I play it @ 1440p with 8x msaa.
I wouldn't be able to max it out at 4k unless I had 2x Titan black because of the Lack of Vram.
Even if I had 6 gb of Vram 200 resolution scaling at 1440p would probably give me 30 fps or less however with sli the game would play a lot better because of the extra horse power of the 2 cards.
Do you see the logic now? " 6 gb of Vram is worth it for sli configurations driving a 1440p monitor or higher"
I suggest you try using a PLS based 1440p monitor the games look great!
Naw i prefer 1080p at 144hz over 1440p or 1600p. For games like bf4 the 144hz comes in alot more handy than 1440 or 1600p ever would when playing online. Now if i was playing at a slower pace or something like single player sure the higher res would be nice but for fast paced mp the 144hz is much better IMO.
so official clock is around 700mhz with official boost around 870mhz (which is the biggest guaranteed boost among kepler cards so far) but if the situation allows it the card capable to boosting up to 1000mhz+?
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-z-boost-10...
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-z-boost-10...
renz496 said:
so official clock is around 700mhz with official boost around 870mhz (which is the biggest guaranteed boost among kepler cards so far) but if the situation allows it the card capable to boosting up to 1000mhz+?http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-z-boost-10...
GTx Titan Z supprots 2 SLi right ?
BuzzKenway said:
renz496 said:
so official clock is around 700mhz with official boost around 870mhz (which is the biggest guaranteed boost among kepler cards so far) but if the situation allows it the card capable to boosting up to 1000mhz+?http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-z-boost-10...
GTx Titan Z supprots 2 SLi right ?
the card itself already in 2 way SLI configuration. for SLI Titan Z should be able to support another Titan Z making it into 4 way SLI config (which is max for SLI).
http://www.techpowerup.com/200505/geforce-gtx-880-es-in...
http://videocardz.com/50448/nvidia-geforce-gtx-880-feat...
so standard config will be 8GB? and then board partner might want to come up with 16GB version for "more is better" version of the card
http://videocardz.com/50448/nvidia-geforce-gtx-880-feat...
so standard config will be 8GB? and then board partner might want to come up with 16GB version for "more is better" version of the card
Leon Chen
May 6, 2014 12:49:23 PM
Leon Chen said:
No No No No No No it only get 5ish frames more at the most. The titan is only 9ish frames more on average in games all the games tested where triple A title games no not 20% faster... maybe 10% faster thowith more push on 4k recently it is expected for GPU vendor to add more VRAM on reference design. with Titan Z (6GB per GPU) nvidia already talking about 5k res. by the time this new GPU arrive they will be talking about 8k or a single card running triple 4k monitor in surround/eyefinity setup
cst1992 said:
GM204..3200 CUDA cores.. 8GB GDDR5.. Wonder what its power consumption is??Only downside is 256 bit memory. Should have been 512 bit up from 384 bit of the 700 series.
while having wider memory interface sounds nice using such configuration will increase the PCB cost. honestly i'm wondering why people really care about having wider memory interface since it only one aspect that determine total bandwidth. in most cases i see nvidia are using much faster memory to compensate the lack of wider memory interface. is there something that i miss that can only be done by having wider memory interface regardless how much total bandwidth is available to a card?
renz496 said:
cst1992 said:
GM204..3200 CUDA cores.. 8GB GDDR5.. Wonder what its power consumption is??Only downside is 256 bit memory. Should have been 512 bit up from 384 bit of the 700 series.
while having wider memory interface sounds nice using such configuration will increase the PCB cost. honestly i'm wondering why people really care about having wider memory interface since it only one aspect that determine total bandwidth. in most cases i see nvidia are using much faster memory to compensate the lack of wider memory interface. is there something that i miss that can only be done by having wider memory interface regardless how much total bandwidth is available to a card?
Having a wider interface means you dont have to run the vram at as fast speeds to achieve the same bandwidth, which in turn will reduce power consumption.
Aphala
May 7, 2014 4:14:47 PM
Jammy Duel
May 7, 2014 6:32:04 PM
Aphala
May 8, 2014 2:12:02 PM
RobCrezz said:
Why is 384 bit memory bus a disappointment? Considering this 880 is likely to be the top end chip of "small" maxwell, I would say this is pretty good. Will out perform the 780 Ti I bet
I guess but you don't really expect an 880 to have a lower bus it would be wiser to do that on 870 or 860
Any who I am unsure, should I just buy a 780ti? OR wait? Currently using 6970 2Gb and it barely farts out 60 on High and I am a stickler for Ultra settings hehe.Aphala said:
RobCrezz said:
Why is 384 bit memory bus a disappointment? Considering this 880 is likely to be the top end chip of "small" maxwell, I would say this is pretty good. Will out perform the 780 Ti I bet
I guess but you don't really expect an 880 to have a lower bus it would be wiser to do that on 870 or 860
Any who I am unsure, should I just buy a 780ti? OR wait? Currently using 6970 2Gb and it barely farts out 60 on High and I am a stickler for Ultra settings hehe.Just bear in mind that "big" maxwell will be later released, the maxwell equivelent of the gk110 (780/780ti/titan etc).
Remember when the 680 came out with its 256bit bus. Didnt matter, still performed great, even though the preceding 580 had a 384bit bus. And then later down the line the big kepler chips came out...
Aphala
May 9, 2014 7:55:26 AM
RobCrezz said:
Aphala said:
RobCrezz said:
Why is 384 bit memory bus a disappointment? Considering this 880 is likely to be the top end chip of "small" maxwell, I would say this is pretty good. Will out perform the 780 Ti I bet
Just bear in mind that "big" maxwell will be later released, the maxwell equivelent of the gk110 (780/780ti/titan etc).
Remember when the 680 came out with its 256bit bus. Didnt matter, still performed great, even though the preceding 580 had a 384bit bus. And then later down the line the big kepler chips came out...
I never really used Nvdia at that point, I was all rage for AMD. But I guess it's a matter of time, I will get a 780ti and wait until GPU's say 900/1000[or what ever they change it too] series to run 4K @ 60fps ultra haha. Still surprised that the 295X2 can run most games @ 50fps - 60fps.
RobCrezz said:
renz496 said:
cst1992 said:
GM204..3200 CUDA cores.. 8GB GDDR5.. Wonder what its power consumption is??Only downside is 256 bit memory. Should have been 512 bit up from 384 bit of the 700 series.
while having wider memory interface sounds nice using such configuration will increase the PCB cost. honestly i'm wondering why people really care about having wider memory interface since it only one aspect that determine total bandwidth. in most cases i see nvidia are using much faster memory to compensate the lack of wider memory interface. is there something that i miss that can only be done by having wider memory interface regardless how much total bandwidth is available to a card?
Having a wider interface means you dont have to run the vram at as fast speeds to achieve the same bandwidth, which in turn will reduce power consumption.
i'm talking more about performance side of things. often we see people look at the memory interface alone. they always saying cards with wider memory interface will be better without seeing other spec. like saying 290X will be better than 780 Ti since it has 512 bit vs 384 on the 780 Ti. and in some case even if the card have more total bandwidth but because the other card have wider memory interface but with a bit less of total bandwidth people still saying the latter is better due to wider memory interface. i want to know is it really true that having wider memory interface is more important that the total bandwidth available to a card
renz496 said:
RobCrezz said:
renz496 said:
cst1992 said:
GM204..3200 CUDA cores.. 8GB GDDR5.. Wonder what its power consumption is??Only downside is 256 bit memory. Should have been 512 bit up from 384 bit of the 700 series.
while having wider memory interface sounds nice using such configuration will increase the PCB cost. honestly i'm wondering why people really care about having wider memory interface since it only one aspect that determine total bandwidth. in most cases i see nvidia are using much faster memory to compensate the lack of wider memory interface. is there something that i miss that can only be done by having wider memory interface regardless how much total bandwidth is available to a card?
Having a wider interface means you dont have to run the vram at as fast speeds to achieve the same bandwidth, which in turn will reduce power consumption.
i'm talking more about performance side of things. often we see people look at the memory interface alone. they always saying cards with wider memory interface will be better without seeing other spec. like saying 290X will be better than 780 Ti since it has 512 bit vs 384 on the 780 Ti. and in some case even if the card have more total bandwidth but because the other card have wider memory interface but with a bit less of total bandwidth people still saying the latter is better due to wider memory interface. i want to know is it really true that having wider memory interface is more important that the total bandwidth available to a card
Total memory bandwidth is the most important (with regards to memory performance on graphics cards). It makes no difference if you get it using a wide bus with slower vram, or narrower bus with fast vram.
It certainly doesnt tell the whole story with the cards performance either. Very high memory bandwidth is pointless if the GPU isnt fast enough to take advantage.
Diwiak
May 12, 2014 9:49:12 AM
Aphala
May 13, 2014 7:19:18 AM
Diwiak said:
still none new 8-series on market??
will it be this year at all?? It has been delayed until 2015 circa June I think due to manufacturing issues with TSMC being unable to make industry standard 20NM wafer. I would just get a high end 780/780ti/Titan/R9290X and sell it when the 880/9XX arrives or wait until they make a 880ti circa November/December or 2016
Funny thing is this is a quote from TSCM's site.
"TSMC's 20nm process technology can provide 30 percent higher speeds" [Added S at the end since they have poor Taiwanese > English translations] Considering Nvidia and AMD claim 10% > 15% faster GPU's. Either they will save the 30% boost for Ti or Second Gen Titans
Diwiak
May 13, 2014 11:14:44 AM
Aphala said:
Diwiak said:
still none new 8-series on market??
will it be this year at all?? It has been delayed until 2015 circa June I think due to manufacturing issues with TSMC being unable to make industry standard 20NM wafer. I would just get a high end 780/780ti/Titan/R9290X and sell it when the 880/9XX arrives or wait until they make a 880ti circa November/December or 2016
and do you have some official statement for this??
high end is out of my budget and worthless for 6core AMD@4.5GHz,
my current 560Ti's warranty will be over in some june-july so Ill buy some lovely 760-770. Any recommendations which brand and version?? will overclock it so need cooler with VRM and memory heatsinks
FunkyFeatures
May 14, 2014 10:13:54 AM
Can't wait for the next GPU! If it's true that NVidia releases a 4gig 256 bit bus GPU with more cuda cores than 780ti it will have a similar +/- benchmarks to 780ti like 750ti/650ti boost does (I believe 650ti boost overall does benchmark better) NVidia can continue to can brag about performance per watt.
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