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a b U Graphics card
June 17, 2014 7:24:37 PM

So since they say that the 880 and 870 will still use 28 nm instead of 20 nm, will this mean that they will still use as much power as the 770 and not as efficient as the 750 Ti? Dang it! In that case, I'm holding out for a 20 nm 860 or 860 Ti, then.
a c 149 U Graphics card
June 17, 2014 10:58:00 PM

Joseph DeGarmo said:
So since they say that the 880 and 870 will still use 28 nm instead of 20 nm, will this mean that they will still use as much power as the 770 and not as efficient as the 750 Ti? Dang it! In that case, I'm holding out for a 20 nm 860 or 860 Ti, then.


750 Ti is on 28nm node as well. but the performance of 750 Ti is exceeding GTX650 Ti which is rated at 110w compared to 750 Ti which is rated at 60w. 880 might consume as much as 770 but the performance might as well exceeding 780 Ti.
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a b U Graphics card
June 17, 2014 11:54:11 PM

I'm thinking 780ti performance with 760 or less power draw.
June 23, 2014 1:00:59 PM

kungfury7 said:
Derza10 said:
In the near to distant future.


Man..that is pretty vague. Any estimate of a timeframe?


It is said later this year like Christmas time-ish but the bigger question is what will the prices be ?
a c 149 U Graphics card
June 23, 2014 1:08:41 PM

Utchy13 said:
kungfury7 said:
Derza10 said:
In the near to distant future.


Man..that is pretty vague. Any estimate of a timeframe?


It is said later this year like Christmas time-ish but the bigger question is what will the prices be ?


if GTX880 is really based on GM204 then the rumor about 880 being cheaper than 780 Ti while at the same time being faster than 780Ti might come true.
June 23, 2014 4:02:55 PM

Utchy13 said:
kungfury7 said:
Derza10 said:
In the near to distant future.


Man..that is pretty vague. Any estimate of a timeframe?


It is said later this year like Christmas time-ish but the bigger question is what will the prices be ?


Well, no official statement has been made as to when exactly, with what we know it's expected late Q4 this year or Q1 next year, as for price, most likely similar to their 700 series counterparts on release.
a c 149 U Graphics card
June 24, 2014 3:01:47 AM

mr91 said:
My guess is that AMD will release a fully ulocked Hawaii chip and Nvidia will counter with an 880.

I wouldn't be surprised if the manufacturing process for both chips remain unchanged.

http://wccftech.com/amd-hawaii-xtx-core-confirmed-r9-29...


to be honest i want AMD to compete with nvidia maxwell in both performance and power consumption not playing the fastest gpu on the planet game with nvidia GK110. so can we expect R9 390X by the time nvidia come up with 880?
a b U Graphics card
June 24, 2014 4:38:45 AM

I'm not sure what the next AMD card will be called but I think they will release a fully enabled Hawaii to try to take the crown from the fully enabled GK110.

My guess is Nvidia will respond with the gtx 880.

I also think that gtx 880 will not be much faster than the 780 ti however quieter and more efficient.
June 25, 2014 10:32:41 PM

I have a dilemma relating to the the 8xx series cards coming out:

I bought an EVGA GTX 780 6GB SC at the end of last month. I have 3 days left with which to return it and wait for the 880. Should I do it or just stick with the 780?

I'm running dual 1920x1200 displays right now and have thought about getting a third to try out the surround stuff. This card seems to have no trouble at all running anything right now on a single display maxed out at 60+ FPS, so it's more about wondering if it'd be worth sending it back and waiting for the 880 in terms of future games as well as the possibility of doing surround on 3 displays.

Thoughts?
a c 149 U Graphics card
June 25, 2014 11:30:40 PM

TabsAZ said:
I have a dilemma relating to the the 8xx series cards coming out:

I bought an EVGA GTX 780 6GB SC at the end of last month. I have 3 days left with which to return it and wait for the 880. Should I do it or just stick with the 780?

I'm running dual 1920x1200 displays right now and have thought about getting a third to try out the surround stuff. This card seems to have no trouble at all running anything right now on a single display maxed out at 60+ FPS, so it's more about wondering if it'd be worth sending it back and waiting for the 880 in terms of future games as well as the possibility of doing surround on 3 displays.

Thoughts?


the thing is we still got nothing official about 880. 6GB is plenty right now. instead of 880 maybe you should wait for 980? right now 880 is most likely based on GM204 which is direct successor to GK104 that used in 680 and 770. the big M (the successor of GK110 used in 780) might only come out as 980. so far that is the speculation.
a b U Graphics card
June 26, 2014 3:12:47 AM

So, if the GPU setups are true and the GTX 880 will be the direct successor to the GTX 680, then could it mean that there will be a GTX 860 Ti which will succeed the GTX 660 Ti but with a lower TDP? Will the GTX 870 be the sweet spot for enthusiast gaming on a single 1080p display?
a c 149 U Graphics card
June 26, 2014 3:43:10 AM

maybe we can assume that. GTX750Ti prove that they can offer more performance than GTX650 TI while at the same time consuming less power (110w vs 60w). maybe we can get 680/770 performance under 150w mark. on another note maybe nvidia was expecting TSMC problem in regards to their next process shrink so with maxwell nvidia is focusing to trim the power consumption down from architecture stand point and not relying only on die shrink. they did this with fermi to kepler but i think they put more effort on it with maxwell. if they not maybe they will face the same problem to what happen with AMD hawaii.
June 28, 2014 12:00:51 PM

azzazel_99 said:
What yall arent understanding is the mobile cards are said to be released first and also the first of the series only being the 870 and 860 stuff. The flagship 20nm 880gtx everyone wants wont be out until later this year. Also wouldnt make ANY sense to release another flagship this close to the 780ti. The card worth getting isnt going to be out until end of this year. Hopefully sooner so i can take advantage of my step up program from evga but i dont think in 90 days we are going to see the 880gtx


I am sure everyone in this thread knows that....Mobile always come first for the most part. Beta testing hehe
June 29, 2014 4:14:47 PM

Aphala said:
azzazel_99 said:
What yall arent understanding is the mobile cards are said to be released first and also the first of the series only being the 870 and 860 stuff. The flagship 20nm 880gtx everyone wants wont be out until later this year. Also wouldnt make ANY sense to release another flagship this close to the 780ti. The card worth getting isnt going to be out until end of this year. Hopefully sooner so i can take advantage of my step up program from evga but i dont think in 90 days we are going to see the 880gtx


I am sure everyone in this thread knows that....Mobile always come first for the most part. Beta testing hehe


Joseph DeGarmo said:
GTX 880 and 870 release time frame leaked!!!

http://wccftech.com/gtx-880-arrive-oct-nov/


Pish Posh!! They keep changing it...2015...End of 2014....July 2014....GOD DANGIT! Well to be honest...780ti or 290X for now will do until they release 880ti or 390X's. I mean I am soon to be a 4K user and at least. 980ti or 490X until we can run 4K @ Stable FPS and maxed settings. Hmm, even 1440/1600p is a struggle with this gens high end cards.

July 1, 2014 11:24:32 AM

renz496 said:
TabsAZ said:
I have a dilemma relating to the the 8xx series cards coming out:

I bought an EVGA GTX 780 6GB SC at the end of last month. I have 3 days left with which to return it and wait for the 880. Should I do it or just stick with the 780?

I'm running dual 1920x1200 displays right now and have thought about getting a third to try out the surround stuff. This card seems to have no trouble at all running anything right now on a single display maxed out at 60+ FPS, so it's more about wondering if it'd be worth sending it back and waiting for the 880 in terms of future games as well as the possibility of doing surround on 3 displays.

Thoughts?


the thing is we still got nothing official about 880. 6GB is plenty right now. instead of 880 maybe you should wait for 980? right now 880 is most likely based on GM204 which is direct successor to GK104 that used in 680 and 770. the big M (the successor of GK110 used in 780) might only come out as 980. so far that is the speculation.


I ended up keeping the 6GB 780 - I'll see how the 880 actually is when it comes out and I'll just sell the 780 if it's a ton better or something. Thanks!
July 3, 2014 9:43:00 AM

Hi everyone! I am currently stuck with a terrible dilemma so I thought I'd share. My Asus Gtx 590 suddenly broke two weeks ago and it has no warranty left.. I don't know which road to take. I have the chance to get 2 780s for the price of a single 780Ti, but they are limited with 3GB VRAM. Newly released games eat up loads of VRAM.. I game on a 1080p 120Hz monitor and getting an average of 90-100 fps while maxed out is not that easy with a single card these days.. I sometimes use 3D Vision and that kills the frames. The Asus ROG Swift looks nice too, I'm planning to upgrade to that. So these are the reasons why I need 2 780s. The chance of VRAM not being enough and Gtx 880 speculations keeps me from buying them. I can't get 6GB 780s as they are really expensive in Europe. Damn.. what a sh*tty situation im in.. All the advices are welcome, thank you.
a c 149 U Graphics card
July 3, 2014 10:17:48 AM

hmm if you're afraid to regret to get current crops of gpu when 880 actually arrives later maybe you can get place holder gpu until 880 comes out? but that's mean you're going to sacrifice your gaming experience for a few months. also there are talks that the true maxwell will have DX12 hardware support which will not exist in current gen hardware. while it is true all nvidia DX11 class gpu will be compatible with some DX12 spec but it is limited to software based one (like the cpu overhead reduction stuff). the new feature that require new hardware will exist in maxwell generation 2.
a c 274 U Graphics card
July 3, 2014 10:52:40 AM

aduman said:
Hi everyone! I am currently stuck with a terrible dilemma so I thought I'd share. My Asus Gtx 590 suddenly broke two weeks ago and it has no warranty left.. I don't know which road to take. I have the chance to get 2 780s for the price of a single 780Ti, but they are limited with 3GB VRAM. Newly released games eat up loads of VRAM.. I game on a 1080p 120Hz monitor and getting an average of 90-100 fps while maxed out is not that easy with a single card these days.. I sometimes use 3D Vision and that kills the frames. The Asus ROG Swift looks nice too, I'm planning to upgrade to that. So these are the reasons why I need 2 780s. The chance of VRAM not being enough and Gtx 880 speculations keeps me from buying them. I can't get 6GB 780s as they are really expensive in Europe. Damn.. what a sh*tty situation im in.. All the advices are welcome, thank you.


I think you should start your own thread rather than try and derail this one.
a b U Graphics card
July 13, 2014 5:33:35 PM

Hope they release it soon.. Some stupid website is claiming the 880 being delayed till 2015.. Its kdramastars.com

I think that these guys are not reliable..
a c 149 U Graphics card
July 14, 2014 8:37:14 AM

illuminatuz said:
Hope they release it soon.. Some stupid website is claiming the 880 being delayed till 2015.. Its kdramastars.com

I think that these guys are not reliable..


not too soon but the latest rumor are talking about Q4 release (they said in october or november time frame). but delayed to 2015 isn't out of possibilities either. the 2015 rumor was coming from if the chip was manufactured with TSMC 20nm. right now most suggest that second gen maxwell (800 series) will be based on current 28nm mature node. the third gen might as well skip 20nm and go straight for 16nm. also there are talks about nvidia redesign maxwell back to 28nm node because they can't afford to wait for TSMC to improve their 20nm and keep delaying maxwell further. but using 28nm doesn't guarantee things will go smooth either. i heard report that TSMC can't keep up with the demand from their 28nm customer.

http://www.kitguru.net/components/anton-shilov/tsmc-ext...
July 16, 2014 9:32:04 AM

I sticked with 760, no point to wait for 8xx series.
a b U Graphics card
July 16, 2014 12:52:53 PM

So what are the chances of me being able to run a GTX 870 without CPU bottlenecking or heating issues? Chances are my PSU will be fine with it, but I'm just wondering about possible CPU bottlenecks since the 870 may include an integrated Tegra CPU.
a c 274 U Graphics card
July 16, 2014 1:18:42 PM

Joseph DeGarmo said:
So what are the chances of me being able to run a GTX 870 without CPU bottlenecking or heating issues? Chances are my PSU will be fine with it, but I'm just wondering about possible CPU bottlenecks since the 870 may include an integrated Tegra CPU.


I think the whole idea of putting a Tegra CPU onboard may be to prevent any CPU overhead and/or bottlenecking, the fact that you are wondering if it would cause a "bottleneck" just shows that you don't understand the theory or the terminology.
a b U Graphics card
July 16, 2014 5:44:55 PM

renz496 said:
illuminatuz said:
Hope they release it soon.. Some stupid website is claiming the 880 being delayed till 2015.. Its kdramastars.com

I think that these guys are not reliable..


not too soon but the latest rumor are talking about Q4 release (they said in october or november time frame). but delayed to 2015 isn't out of possibilities either. the 2015 rumor was coming from if the chip was manufactured with TSMC 20nm. right now most suggest that second gen maxwell (800 series) will be based on current 28nm mature node. the third gen might as well skip 20nm and go straight for 16nm. also there are talks about nvidia redesign maxwell back to 28nm node because they can't afford to wait for TSMC to improve their 20nm and keep delaying maxwell further. but using 28nm doesn't guarantee things will go smooth either. i heard report that TSMC can't keep up with the demand from their 28nm customer.

http://www.kitguru.net/components/anton-shilov/tsmc-ext...


Yeah that and with Apple pumping in money to TSMC to make more iStuff processors, the AMD & Nvidia put together cannot match what Apple might offer TSMC.. Maybe its time for the graphics companies to look towards samsung or globalfoundaries or something..
a c 149 U Graphics card
July 16, 2014 6:51:04 PM

^ i heard that Apple actually wants TSMC to exclusively making chips for them only and they are willing to pay for it but TSMC refuse the offer. i think TSMC are more thinking about long term rather than short term profit. most likely such move will sour their relation with their current customer. just in case they can't meet apple demand on time in regards new process shrink Apple can stop using TMSC and go for other fab company that can offer what they need. that time TSMC might have a bit of problem to convince people to use their fab to fill in the hole left by Apple because how they treat their customer in the past

as for samsung and Glofo maybe GPU maker can look Glofo as alternative but i don't think it will be the case for Samsung. GPU is very complex and they say one of the very reason Nvidia pretty much still using TSMC was because there are no other fab that can do what TSMC able to do with GPU silicon. some even said that even intel might not be able to match TSMC in that regard. also Nvidia is one of TSMC primary customer. there are talks in the past that nvidia considering to use samsung to fab their tegra chip because of TSMC constraint capacity. a few weeks later TSMC giving extra 'space' for nvidia in expense of other company capacity so nvidia can meet their need.

http://www.likelyanswer.com/18032923/Tsmc-Gives-Nvidia-...
a b U Graphics card
July 16, 2014 7:48:11 PM

Hmm.. Then its good.. Im not an apple fan anyways.. Coz AFAIK TSMC is the only fab that's for 20nm.. Glofo is at 28 and Intel is still developing.. So basically TSMC as the advantage that apple has when it released 64bit chips.. But there's the flip side..smaller silicon is tougher and more expensive.. So far it has been improving.. Now its at a break even point.. So mostly the speculation is that the industry will be stuck at around 28-22nm for a while till a solution is found.. Intel said that silicon is almost dead and there are other methods..and one of the method I am finding hard to remember, made a processor at 200 GHz around 1995-1997.. I mean when silicon was at its beginning.. Hope that's true..
July 18, 2014 12:54:42 PM

I can't wait for the 800 series, it's taking too long, so I ordered a EVGA GeForce GTX 780 6GB SuperClocked w/ EVGA ACX Cooler. The extra memory will be useful when I upgrade to a 4K monitor.
a b U Graphics card
July 18, 2014 1:46:12 PM

even I'm considering a GTX 780 now.. damn you nVidia.. :( 

but one thing is for sure.. when the 800 series will launch, it will be with a big bang..
a b U Graphics card
July 18, 2014 6:53:58 PM

Any news on the 860 yet? It's hard to trust a 770 in my rig on a 550w psu, even if it's a good one. A 680 would have been perfect for me, but it's overpriced.
a b U Graphics card
July 19, 2014 1:31:21 AM

Joseph DeGarmo said:
Any news on the 860 yet? It's hard to trust a 770 in my rig on a 550w psu, even if it's a good one. A 680 would have been perfect for me, but it's overpriced.


Doesn't the 680 consume more power than the 770..?? you are running a 550w power supply..
a b U Graphics card
July 19, 2014 2:25:07 AM

Wow.. So these guys are claiming more power efficiency with 880 now.. Hope they make it.
a c 274 U Graphics card
July 19, 2014 3:23:33 AM

I'm still going to try and hold out for 20nm but it will still be interesting to see what Maxwell is like on 28nm, especially if it does get repeated on 20nm as then direct back to back comparisons could be made to see what improvement (if any) the smaller node is used for. From what I've read you get either better power efficiency or higher speeds from 20nm, so Maxwell on 28nm should be interesting but I will still try to hold off any purchasing until 20nm turns up in the shops.
a b U Graphics card
July 19, 2014 8:42:40 AM

Sent my hd7950 for RMA.. Hope it returns in good and fixed condition.. Then I'll change her for the green chic once she is on sale..
a c 149 U Graphics card
July 19, 2014 3:38:54 PM

Joseph DeGarmo said:
Any news on the 860 yet? It's hard to trust a 770 in my rig on a 550w psu, even if it's a good one. A 680 would have been perfect for me, but it's overpriced.


x60 is mid range cards. we won't heard about them not until x80 and x70 launch first.
a b U Graphics card
July 19, 2014 7:10:02 PM

What about gtx 790..? Will it come..?
a c 678 U Graphics card
July 19, 2014 7:13:34 PM

illuminatuz said:
What about gtx 790..? Will it come..?

With a new generation set to debut in 4 months, it's unlikely they will come out with anything new in the Kepler family.
a c 149 U Graphics card
July 20, 2014 2:41:50 AM

illuminatuz said:
What about gtx 790..? Will it come..?


personally i think nvidia will never make 790. for dual cards they already have titan z. but for nvidia skipping dual cards for consumer is not that strange. 400 series doesn't have dual GPU either.
a b U Graphics card
July 20, 2014 7:27:07 AM

I'm currently holding off buying a GTX 780.. I'll just go for a GTX 870 once it's launched.. I'll work with my HD 7950 for now that's in RMA..
July 20, 2014 7:31:18 AM

Just buy an EVGA high end GPU, they have a program called 'step-up' which allow you to upgrade just by paying the difference in money (between 0 and 90 days). You can buy a 780 now and upgrade to 880 later.
July 20, 2014 7:39:15 AM

yeah, if its in the 3 onths, which probably wont be. i tought the exact same thing on the 15 of may and there i am with less than a month left for 800series to come out, bah...
a b U Graphics card
July 20, 2014 8:09:45 AM

Farapon said:
Just buy an EVGA high end GPU, they have a program called 'step-up' which allow you to upgrade just by paying the difference in money (between 0 and 90 days). You can buy a 780 now and upgrade to 880 later.


Don't think that it's applicable in India..
a b U Graphics card
July 20, 2014 8:13:33 AM

So what you're saying is that even if my current GPU dies and I go out and buy a new EVGA GTX 680 off EBay or Amazon, then I could use the step-up program to jump two generations to a GTX 880?
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